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After I spent a day without Touchflo I'm never using it again. Yes its pretty but my life is so much easier without all the touching and flowing. I cant believe I'm going to say this but the regular windows mobile start screen kicks ass. Date, time, my appointments and screen lock is all I need. Performance wise every app runs so much faster its like a totally different phone. If you havent tried using your fuze without touchflo I suggest you give it a try.
What do you think fellow XDAers?
edit: something I just noticed is that if you lock your device, it can be unlocked automatically by removing the stylus.
hmm
Here is my dilema . With touch flow disabled the phone is a lot faster for me but it takes more effert to do something like use the camera in a snap. The touch flow interface is much easier to do things like use the camera with only one hand.
I did, and it wasn't bad but windows mobile just aint purty. I've tried the Bell UI which runs tons faster, but I didn't like that there were a few things that didn't work. There's also the point ui, which runs faster too
Try SPB Mobile Shell, it's a very nice replacement.
I just go to the start menu and press camera. As apposed to scrolling to Programs tab or Pictures tab waiting for the icons to load (yes I know it takes less than a second but when you're doing something it feels like forever) and then pressing camera. With touchflo disabled the camera app opens faster anyway.
Upquark said:
Try SPB Mobile Shell, it's a very nice replacement.
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Im not looking for suggestions I just wanted to know how other people felt about touchflo's performance.
I don't use it.. I think it was just HTCs answer to the iPhone crowd
if you want to get to aps and things fast i suggest using ifonz 1.1.2, you can map the camera to an icon right in the bottom bar i use it on my x51v and am getting my fuze tonight and i plan on that being the first program that i install on it
Haha, I just started using TouchFlo3D.
Ater I bought it I immediately disabled TouchFlo, but a couple of weeks ago I started to use it a bit. (for now)
I like a lot of the TouchFLO, but why MS took off the PIM aspect of the phone is beyond me. It doesn't do me any good to only see 1 appointment and no tasks easily. It seems like more of an oversight on their part, but until they get it working that I can see appointments and tasks, TFLO is not gonna be used again.
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I like a lot of the TouchFLO, but why MS took off the PIM aspect of the phone is beyond me. It doesn't do me any good to only see 1 appointment and no tasks easily. It seems like more of an oversight on their part, but until they get it working that I can see appointments and tasks, TFLO is not gonna be used again.
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Cant you just add them back to the today menu? My fuze shows tasks and appointments as a seperate line on the today screen.
I still use it and have no intention to turn it off. With all these custom ROMs out here, tf3d is pretty fast.
I like HTC Home better...maybe I am just so use to it considering I had my TyTN II for so long and just got a Fuze.
Hmmm...wonder if HTC Home 2.1 will work with the Touch Pro...
Yep, still using it. Although I installed the black flip clock version. After tweaking it, it's very responsive.
i use it touchflo on and off i really like touchflo so everytime i disable it i end up re-enabling it lol.....
but custom roms make it alot faster...
the rom im using now is really fast but still has plenty functionality!
and yes this is my 6th rom and loving it!!
i just hope it stays stable..
i love it... its not slow at all. im running NATF 2.3.
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i love it... its not slow at all. im running NATF 2.3.
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ya thats a good rom!
but then i upgraded to the new he just released and all went down the drain!..
ima just stay with whats good and forget about upgrading unless it has major changes..
Im Still using TouchFlo .... on a Stock ROM... I know im just still to nervous to flash a new rom on it... I was like that when i was upgrading the OS on my Blackberry but now that i have done it, it was a breeze... but i love TouchFlo
behrouz said:
After I spent a day without Touchflo I'm never using it again. Yes its pretty but my life is so much easier without all the touching and flowing. I cant believe I'm going to say this but the regular windows mobile start screen kicks ass.
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To each his own.... but... EWWW!
IMHO, you just can't beat AT&T's M3D theme. I think it's such a well-balanced, smooth, thoroughly-designed theme, that everything else just looks amateur in comparison. That's just me thou.
I never said Touchflo was slow or unresponsive but I found my fuze more productive with it disabled. Apps load up faster which is the biggest plus in my book. I open up emails and word docs throughout the day and every bit of speed I get helps me get through the day with less frustration.
I'll disable it on the weekdays when I have work and enable it during weekend so that when I go to bars, I can show off to my Iphony friends.
Hi all,
FYI, The good old guys at mozilla have just released an early version of the upcoming browser 'Fennec'. The good news is that this release only works on Touch Pro devices, so I miss out as I have an X1.
Anyway, have a play.
http://www.wmexperts.com/fennec-milestone-release-released
Dev
nice!!! i'm installing now
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nice!!! i'm installing now
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Don't get too excited, this is a very early release and will have a lot of bugs that will most likely make this unusable for everyday use. I'm looking forward to the updates though but this seems more like a proof of concept.
yeah, i realize that. i can see the big picture! just ran it. it takes forever to load. it laggy, but is going to be a nice app when they finish up. the did a good job of incorperating TF into it.
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yeah, i realize that. i can see the big picture! just ran it. it takes forever to load. it laggy, but is going to be a nice app when they finish up. the did a good job of incorperating TF into it.
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Well, I tried loading it on my X1 and it actually installed and ran. However, same as you Robbie, took forever to start and was very slow. I thought it was just because it was on my X1 and not on a TP, but looks like its just the app.
I like the scroll to the left and right to bring up your bookmarks and tools, very nice.
Look forward to the beta release.
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I've seen the videos on it, and it looks reasonable. It'll be interesting to see how they develop it.
fennec-0.11.en-US.wince-arm.cab Beta
takes some time to start
http://rapidshare.com/files/19674281....wince-arm.cab
For raphael only
SLOW
Nice to see they released this. To bad it runs like a snail on my Fuze with NATF 4.3.
Cripples my cdma touch pro to the point of frustration.
http://blog.mozilla.com/blassey/2009/02/10/fennec-milestone-release-for-windows-mobile/
Forgive me if this was mentioned elsewhere, but any chance on a swype port for HTC Hero?
I heard it may be working on Eris.
There is a video showing a demo of a similar application running on the Eris....
looking into it, I guess it's not out yet, but yeah
First, this would be better in the apps forum. It is a cross device app so it fits better there. Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
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Regardless, check out ShapeWriter on the Android Market. It does the same thing and IMO it is amazing! Seriously thinking about buying it (which I never do). Takes some getting used to but they have a 30 day free trial. Definitely recommend.
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thanks, downloading it now!
LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
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LOVE it!!!!
Is there a way to get double-tap space for period back?
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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I dont think so but I'm not sure. My biggest complaint with it is the fact that it has the comma button so close to space and so big. I always hit too many commas. But I would recommend we all support this developer as this app is awesome. I have nothing to gain but I think that's what Android needs. More devs like this making kick ass apps.
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agreed, well except for the comma issue, I haven't hit it very many times yet.
but yeah, we need to get this dev to build us more stuff.
I'm running the trial for now, I'll prob purchase it after the holidays.
(not too much money, just extremely busy)
I bought it flat out, and completely happy, no regret. And I will say that when I want to hit period, I hit question mark, when I want to hit question mark, I hit 123 and switch layouts, ugh...otherwise...
Also, if you have problems with a word not picking up, it probably doesn't know it, type it out manually, hit add, then it finds it just fine, was my only major complaint, but SO simple to remedy. Really love this.
Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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Exactly what I was going to ask, so bump to the top.
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Some of the comments state this is a huge memory hog on standard rom, what are you all seeing?
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I havent really noticed. I have been running it for a few weeks and it seems fine for me. I run my Gutted rom with Apps2SD and I have Advanced Task Manager set to close apps every hour so I keep a good amount of free memory around anyway. But overall, I havent noticed any decrease in memory when using this over the HTC IME.
Had Xscope lite on my Nexus as the default browser. The reason I loved it was because of the look, it was "lite" unlike the other browsers like Opera (which do run faster) I liked xscope because the top bar was minimal and scrollable.
With this new version they COMPLETELY changed it! Now it has a watermark that reads "trial version" totally TACKY! And two navigation bars!!! How can they make such a drastic change?!
Needless to say uninstalled. Now going to try to find an apk for the older version.
SUCKS BALLS!
I was very surprise too this morning when i install this new update going back to previous one too.
Please let me know if you find the previous version.
why not just stop being cheap and help support the dev by buying the full one?
Just installed the trial and bought straight away - can't believe I missed this!
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Just installed the trial and bought straight away - can't believe I missed this!
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I think the original version looks better. Luckily found the apk for the original version. Glad you like it though.
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why not just stop being cheap and help support the dev by buying the full one?
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because the browser isn't even one of the top 5 available.
the dev hasnt been shy about charging more than it is worth becuase google "takes too much"
the full version isn't worth the asking price
Aye, dolphin did the same thing.
The original one had a very simplistic tab bar, but now with the HD version you need to swipe all the way to the corner of the screen to call upon a stupid popup tab bar.
I need to find how to save old apks, anyone know which folder they're stored in?
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because the browser isn't even one of the top 5 available.
the dev hasnt been shy about charging more than it is worth becuase google "takes too much"
the full version isn't worth the asking price
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Because its not in the top 5? Name what you think is better. For me xScope blows every browser away..only thing close is Dolphin (non HD).
About the dev charging too much?...its three dollars? You could find that on the ground in one day. Damn...I mean damn do we (Android users) need to support our devs...look, I have to say this on a dev forum
Full version is worth the price to many, but in a few weeks all of the old features that are missing at this moment will be replaced. Wait and see...this browser is going to be so complete. It's already number one in my book.
yeah. Xscope 5 is the best browser available. Its a bit slow and laggy on Vibrant, but its still very good. V6 changed everything, i downgraded immediately to V5 and emailed developer to maybe try to change his mind and go back to developing V5 (some extra features, more optimization, but keep the GUI)
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yeah. Xscope 5 is the best browser available. Its a bit slow and laggy on Vibrant, but its still very good. V6 changed everything, i downgraded immediately to V5 and emailed developer to maybe try to change his mind and go back to developing V5 (some extra features, more optimization, but keep the GUI)
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Improvements to v6 will be coming from the dev. On my phone its running faster then the older version...by far! Instant back and forward, faster page loads, ..better everywhere. Dev said he will be adding in more features that were left out but it does take time. He needs to make sure he does it right, or there would be bugs.
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Improvements to v6 will be coming from the dev. On my phone its running faster then the older version...by far! Instant back and forward, faster page loads, ..better everywhere. Dev said he will be adding in more features that were left out but it does take time. He needs to make sure he does it right, or there would be bugs.
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Yeah it definitely loads pages faster, but accessing tabs is a little more of a pain in the ass. You can't have the tab bar open by itself, the stupid control bar always has to be open at the same time.
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yeah. Xscope 5 is the best browser available. Its a bit slow and laggy on Vibrant, but its still very good. V6 changed everything, i downgraded immediately to V5 and emailed developer to maybe try to change his mind and go back to developing V5 (some extra features, more optimization, but keep the GUI)
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Agree. He shouldn't have changed the UI and just improved functionality. A lot of people don't seem to be happy with the changes. I emailed him too. Hopefully he gets it.
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Agree. He shouldn't have changed the UI and just improved functionality. A lot of people don't seem to be happy with the changes. I emailed him too. Hopefully he gets it.
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probably he gets lots of email due to v6.....but he did respond to mine.
old paid version for free at xscope.net
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Agree. He shouldn't have changed the UI and just improved functionality. A lot of people don't seem to be happy with the changes. I emailed him too. Hopefully he gets it.
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Personally, I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.
Sure there are things that aren't in the new one that were in the old one (such as a custom user agent per favourite), but the dev. has already said the additional features are coming.
There may be some ppl who don't like the new look, but others do, and it seems a lot faster than the old one. It's a total re-write, so I'm sure he's coded it much better having learned some lessons.
But hey, I only supported the guy 6 months ago when I bought it, so I'm sure my opinion doesn't count as much as those who are freeloading the unpaid trial version...
To avoid three presses to get to bookmarks, you can make bookmarks your home page, and start an extra tab leaving the bookmarks tab available. You can swipe between tabs to get to your bookmarks tab.
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probably he gets lots of email due to v6.....but he did respond to mine.
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Yeah they emailed me back. You have to love these guys for their customer service. They hooked me up with the paid old version off of xscope dot net. Its a zip file so have to DL it to the PC. Works great! The world is good again!
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Personally, I hope he keeps doing what he's doing.
Sure there are things that aren't in the new one that were in the old one (such as a custom user agent per favourite), but the dev. has already said the additional features are coming.
There may be some ppl who don't like the new look, but others do, and it seems a lot faster than the old one. It's a total re-write, so I'm sure he's coded it much better having learned some lessons.
But hey, I only supported the guy 6 months ago when I bought it, so I'm sure my opinion doesn't count as much as those who are freeloading the unpaid trial version...
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Please pat yourself on the back on my behalf.
Hello,
As many of ppl in world, got shocked by nokia announcement. But in mien case it was not positive shock. I was fan of Nokia, but i never did want to buy WP7, and since i am looking for device, it puts more complication to deciding...
WP7 is nice looking phone, and with great comfort to use. But it had 1 annoying thing, i would prefer to disable. SO, can i disable WP7 animation on home screen and other places?
Basicly, when i open mien people section, it just open without showing animation of those boxes getting of the screen....
at present no. maybe it's something you can suggest to MS on social.microsoft.com for an option, though in saying that, the animations are quite fluid and don't take any longer than without them really.
lol totaly forgot about this post i made..
In any case, maybe it wont take longer time, but those animations does make a feel, " COME ON, FASTER". And in every day, it would soom me make OS... I do belive that i am not so unique freek, that no one else feel so as well...
I'm one of them who really hate animation/transition effects on my Windows PC. I just want my command to be execute immediately without any gimmick whatsoever. I've been using WP7 for almost a month now but I never feel slightly annoyed with its animation, it's just so damn smooth
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I'm one of them who really hate animation/transition effects on my Windows PC. I just want my command to be execute immediately without any gimmick whatsoever. I've been using WP7 for almost a month now but I never feel slightly annoyed with its animation, it's just so damn smooth
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Your not like me. You need it to look cool.. but i need it be executed immediatly liek for you on win PC. as we all know, win PC is not cool lookimg, in fact it looks same as dog poo..
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lol totaly forgot about this post i made..
In any case, maybe it wont take longer time, but those animations does make a feel, " COME ON, FASTER". And in every day, it would soom me make OS... I do belive that i am not so unique freek, that no one else feel so as well...
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If you would like a mobile OS that has zero transitions, just ugly screen changes, then you could go pick up a windows mobile 6.5 device.
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If you would like a mobile OS that has zero transitions, just ugly screen changes, then you could go pick up a windows mobile 6.5 device.
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Or blackberry, or current Symbian devices.
After using WP7 for a little over a week I can say that the animations really add to the experience of WP7. I find the animations are what catch people's eyes and distinguish WP7 from other mobile OS's. They show a form of polish on the software and allow you to know when you've done something. As others have said, it truly makes the whole experience super smooth.
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Your not like me. You need it to look cool.. but i need it be executed immediatly liek for you on win PC. as we all know, win PC is not cool lookimg, in fact it looks same as dog poo..
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I never said I was like you, I'm just saying that the delay is almost the same.
And you probably won't like WP7 because it'll look like cat poo to you
Id say they also hide the loading time between apps and menus quite nicely
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Id say they also hide the loading time between apps and menus quite nicely
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if it was a matter of lag between menus then there would be screen freezes during the animations. An initial load of a menu would be quicker than an animation to load. As for the apps they don't deny that they're slow to load and they're working on a fix for that issue.
Refer to : http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Jaime+Rodriguez/Windows-Phone-Design-Days-Animation
Animation is used for multiple reasons.
Animation is an immediate feedback to the user that the phone is 'awake' and has received the input (Touching a button ect...)
Watch the video. It will show how animations are used effectivly in order to reduce the 'stress' we feel when we are waiting for an action. It works in our benifit
youd be right if the animations were taking no longer than the time to load and i know that if u open settings it can and needs to be instant
so what i want is as fast as possible animations, someetimes instantm, sometimes slow and fluid
i will buy a wp7 phone only if it works faster
this is unacceptable
im talking about transitions
1 more i want to buy a wp7 device and is there any way to make the topbar, status bar stay active always? an app or something so can wp7 be customised as android?
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and emigrating id agree with you if the animatinos were faster
if i know the music app is opened and i press it to view it from the homescreen it needs to come up fast not after 1 second of transitions.
10ms transition
i agree that its more userfriendly to see that your action has an effect and that you can slide to the left back to see another screen
but not in the detrement of speed
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You're still not getting it though - tapping the music app (i.e. Music + Videos) requires some loading. Getting the transition effect simply masks the loading time. If you didn't have the transition the app wouldn't appear any quicker it would just present you with a "Loading" message instead. I don't know about you, but I'd take the transition over the bland "Loading" text any day. What's happened is basically that instead of displaying a dummy "Loading, please wait..." screen you get a smooth transition instead.
As for sliding left/right to see other screens - again, it doesn't take any longer switching from page A to B using a Panorama than it does using a Pivot.
If you don't like it, stick with a different mobile OS. For me, the panorama views and instant feedback is what makes the platform so great.
Wake up please, it's 2011. Average speed of smartphone CPU is about 1GHz. Music app should open immediately. That's the case on iOS, Android even on slow as hell Windows Mobile. I'm pretty sure that on WP7 it would also open in 0,01 s, but transitions make it slower.
Jesus, just on/off switch and everyone would be happy!
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youd be right if the animations were taking no longer than the time to load and i know that if u open settings it can and needs to be instant
so what i want is as fast as possible animations, someetimes instantm, sometimes slow and fluid
i will buy a wp7 phone only if it works faster
this is unacceptable
im talking about transitions
1 more i want to buy a wp7 device and is there any way to make the topbar, status bar stay active always? an app or something so can wp7 be customised as android?
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I agree with what you've said here 100%. I like animations, but I don't want to wait for them. I want them to very quickly do their transition. WP7 is very smooth, but I'm always feeling like I'm waiting to get from one point to another. With one of the Android launchers, there's an option to set the speed of the transitions. Perfect. I sped it up dramatically. It's still smooth but I don't wait. The windows move as fast as I can swipe them.
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I agree with what you've said here 100%. I like animations, but I don't want to wait for them. I want them to very quickly do their transition. WP7 is very smooth, but I'm always feeling like I'm waiting to get from one point to another. With one of the Android launchers, there's an option to set the speed of the transitions. Perfect. I sped it up dramatically. It's still smooth but I don't wait. The windows move as fast as I can swipe them.
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I think that's a problem here. If users are attempting to argue that Android is better (Which i'm not saying you are kuttyjoe), we should be sticking to the stock OS and not a modified version. While I agree that having an option to speed up animations would be great for some users, there happen to be other problems that should be looked at first. As an example we will look at the SMS app on WP7. There should be different colors to tell the convo apart from one user to the other. I'm just using that as an example of thing to look at first before such trivial things as animation speeds.
Also after reading through this thread it's mostly nonsense fanboy arguments. If you don't support WP7 then don't bother posting in the WP7 sections. We've gone from a WP7 idea to arguing whether iOS, Andriod or the Galaxy S is better the WP7 OS.
You guys let another troll turn a simple yes or no question into another argument.
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I fine it funny that people compare the first stage of WP7 to later built of Android or iOS, Those people are beyond stupidity & Their lack of common sense makes me sad...
Android didn't get flash until later update, same goes for iOS w/ Multi-Tasking. Was the first version of Android bug free? I think not.
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Are you stuck in Medieval times? Are you gonna argue that if Porche introduces a horse carriage with an engine in it with promises of seatbelts and airbags in the future updates, etc., will you still buy it because it has Porsche emblem on it?
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Are you stuck in Medieval times? Are you gonna argue that if Porche introduces a horse carriage with an engine in it with promises of seatbelts and airbags in the future updates, etc., will you still buy it because it has Porsche emblem on it?
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Some promise of a future is better than none. Android just had a trojan released that took advantage of a serious security flaw which could give out the IMEI number of 260,000 of it's customers. Any of those using android 2.2.1 or lower can have their IMEI number stolen, premium calls made at their expense, etc. and is google sending out a patch? Is google offering some sort of malware removal tool to save your phone. No, they cant because they're so fragmented that they'd have to magically convince all carriers to update every phone... Yeah, that's happening. No, they're sitting idly by. Everyone compares android in it's current iteration to WP7 but android doesnt have a current iteration. How many phones out there actually legitimately run 2.3? 1 or 2? How about 2.2.? Still not TOO many. If you never hacked your G1 which was pretty new 2 years ago then you're still running android 1.6. A number of other phones and tablets can have the same said for them. Android has just as many if not more shortcomings than WP7 with absolutely no promise of any of them being resolved unless you get the latest android device every time they come out (every 2 weeks or so.)
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Some promise of a future is better than none. Android just had a trojan released that took advantage of a serious security flaw which could give out the IMEI number of 260,000 of it's customers. Any of those using android 2.2.1 or lower can have their IMEI number stolen, premium calls made at their expense, etc. and is google sending out a patch? Is google offering some sort of malware removal tool to save your phone. No, they cant because they're so fragmented that they'd have to magically convince all carriers to update every phone... Yeah, that's happening. No, they're sitting idly by. Everyone compares android in it's current iteration to WP7 but android doesnt have a current iteration. How many phones out there actually legitimately run 2.3? 1 or 2? How about 2.2.? Still not TOO many. If you never hacked your G1 which was pretty new 2 years ago then you're still running android 1.6. A number of other phones and tablets can have the same said for them. Android has just as many if not more shortcomings than WP7 with absolutely no promise of any of them being resolved unless you get the latest android device every time they come out (every 2 weeks or so.)
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Almost all Android phones released after November 2010 are on 2.2 or higher, exception Fascinate for Verizon that just got an official leak to 2.2.
So what is your argument here?