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I'm on day 29 of my 30 day buyers remorse. Still love the phone but the GPS issues irk me. Also the fact that I paid $199 while others are getting it for free bugged me. So, I dialed 611 and spoke to an agent. They informed me that they are aware of the GPS issue and then transferred me to a acct negotiator rep ( or whatever term they are using).
I explained to them that my 30 days was nearly up and the GPS issue still hasn't been resolved. Also that I was irritated that I paid 199 while other stores were giving the phone away for free. (I then suggested that maybe AT&T gave the phones away because they knew about the GPS issue). I said I was thinking of taking it back and going with a different provider. They then came back and offered my a $199 credit and if I wanted to I could talk to a top level tech about adjusting my GPS. I took the credit but there obviously was no point in talking to the top tier tech rep.
so yea for me, a free Captivate + taxes. And I suppose the GPS fix will be out in a month or so. Really the GPS is the only issue that's bugging me now...
did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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nope. they just said 'thanks for being a loyal customer'... i don't think they can just "get into my phone" anyway, can they? This was all over the phone, I didn't go into a store or anything.
Too bad in Ga the remorse period is only 20 days...didnt work for me
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I tried and didn't work for me. She just said that I will still have an 11 month warranty so if the phone still has problems 11 months from now I can exchange it for a brand new one... for free. I asked her to clarify that I wouldn't need to pay for anything and she said absolutely not. She said she would "note it" on my account that I can exchange the phone for the exact same one for up to the next 11 months.
Darn.. I wanted a free phone though.
Yeah I ended up taking mine back (I paid the full price so I can keep my month to month in case I want to jump at some point), but seeing that we can get them for free makes me think that once Samsung fixes this issue and (hopefully?) we get 2.2 I will go ahead and snag one of these again.
wow they just told me I could not extend the buyers remorse period and that if I don't like the performance of the phone I should return it. and that is that. I said but ATT doesn't have any android phones on par with the captivate... but verizon does and he says then maybe I should go with verizon. if that is what will make me happy because they want happy customers.
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This has really got me thinking hard about jumping ship now... My sister just got an HTC Incredible on Verizon and she loves it.... I know its not quite the galaxy S but hey with a fully functional aGPS and a Froyo update around the corner who is going to notice the difference. Maybe I can family plan it up with her.
There's a bunch of folks that have been doing the same thing, and most HAVE received some kind of credit back. I tried last night, and jumped through a number of hoops, making it almost not even worth all the hassle, but this afternoon I was credited $100 to my account. I've heard anywhere from 100-199. I guess it all depends on the manager you are speaking with at the time.
They technically do not have to give you a credit back, because essentially it is price matching, which they do not do. So hopefully those that are planning on trying, get a customer service rep and or manager that is in a GOOD mood.
What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I bought mine through amazon wireless... and yes they asked where I bought it. so it might matter to your success in getting a credit if you went direct through att... If I return I have to return to Amazon and then deal with ATT for the service plan restructure.
the warranty is a year I believe so you can probably do a 1:1 swap as was stated above.
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Just remember that warranty replacements are refurbished units, not new ones...
replacing a year old unit with a refurbished unit sounds good to me.
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What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I actually bought mine from best buy. They didn't ask me where I bought it.
I tired and the lady was like totally ignoring what I was saying. She was like well if you want you can take back to the store and get a refund. I was like whatever!
She looked up the GPS issue in the system and all it had was to enable use wireless networks. I was like that only enables cell tower location, doesn't help with GPS issues. System had nothing about a update or anything. So odd you find variations. This was the business premier services too. So tempted to change carriers but after 12 years .... You would think they would take care of you. Last time I called though they gave me 3000 roll over minutes so I guess I can't complain.
You must be like my friend and have an ability with dealing with companies... lol.
sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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Originally walmart.com (letstalk.com) had it for free and then went to $99. Most places I have seen for $99. tigerdirect.com mypoints.com, cellstore.com, are all $99. I think you can keep your dataplan, one of the sites had a wizard that would check your account, I think it was tigerdirect.
I called them and was able to get a $75 credit to my account. I was out of my 30 days as well. I told them that I used it to log when I go out running, and my routes were choppy and it was recording that I was running mcuh more than I actually was. I made the comment that if it was a $50 phone, like I see it advertised at some places, I wouldn't have as big an issue, but seeing as it was $199, I expect it to work how it's advertised.
I have no issues with my GPS...takes a few seconds to lock on but it's not a big deal to me
I went to Best Buy to peruse this evening and checked out the HTC Inspire 4G - overall it's a pretty snappy phone and the 4.3" screen has me drooling along with the front camera, rear flash and the Sense UI that has grown so much from my good old days of HTC on Windows Mobile!!! Then I thought to myself, hmmmm, perhaps AT&T will let me get it!!!
I purchased the Captivate on July 15th, about three days ahead of the actual release date and I was beaming - until the woeful GPS and now the occasional rebooting if you look at it too hard issues came up, of course I stuck with it because originally they said the holy grail of 2.2 would be out by August, then the end of September, then after Turkey day then by Christmas...... and now it's almost March, almost seven months later to the date!!!
I've been a Bell South/Cingular/AT&T subscriber since 2000, now a little over 11 years, and thru those years I've had let's say about nine phones of my own not to include my wifes phone and then my kids as they grew up and I gave them phones via the family plan. Strangely enough when I upgraded my last phone (HTC Fuze) to the captivate they gave me the option to upgrade a year later which will be July 15th, they usually let me upgrade every year or so so I'm always fresh.
But after this second hassle with them about a Samsung smart phone (first was the BlackJack) I'm pretty done and ready to go back to old reliable HTC and call them up and demand that they give me an Inspire or I nip all my plans in the bud since they all expire this year with my phone being the last one to expire in July and moving over to T-Mobile or Verizon. I know I could get it and they would probably extend my contract another 6 months or so, and I've seen the specs on it and know that by mid summer it would be be beyond old hat since it's pretty much the Evo with GSM with new Sense UI. Or I could wait and see if they would give me the Infuse or the new Motorola but I'd hate to get any of those phones then see in July that the new HTC Super Duper or Samsung Galaxy S 2.5 come out then. Should I wait it out another five months with the Captivate, play the warranty return game till they offer me an alternative or just say" Yo AT&T, if you still want my business give me a Motorola!!!"
Right there with you. Got my Cappy in late July, now on my sixth. They offered to give me a different phone on the last two, but the closest to the Cap's specs were the x10 and iPhone 4. Hoping number six here holds out until the x12's or Atrix's come out. If they're not willing to budge on my terms when it inevitably dies (free and no-new-contract) then I'm paying the ETF and heading to sprint.
I'm planning on doing the same. Although chances are they will only change it (one time) to another phone that is refurbished. So it might take a while to jump on a new phone.
How did you manage to gets a one year contract with a phone upgrade? I wish I got that.I have a one year upgrade option but a t year contract that gets extended with every upgrade. The 300-500 is not worth the contract cancellation for me
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The 300-500 is not worth the contract cancellation for me
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True. But with all the bullsh*t that has came with this droid and having to take 5 phones to the post office to be shipped back (only to be refurb'd again and passed off to some other poor bastard)... a $200 ETF is like paying for the luxury of no longer putting up with AT&T. Every month another $20 less that I have to pay them, etc.
3 times warranty exchange of captivate for the sleep/charge death issue; and possibly account history.
As always, be soft, be patient, and be genuine.
I was told I could swap for a different phone in Dec last if the sleep death issue reoccurred (that was the 4th exchange in all -- once a battery and 3 times phone exchange).
Luckily, my captivate survived.
Im so tempted to just pay the ETF and jump to verizon.. its nice to see that att is getting some new android phones. Even though the htc phone has the lowest specs its so tempting because it will have aosp and 2.3 before the new samsung phone.....and unless motorola goes with an unlocked bootloader they will be in the same boat. Hardware specs don't mean much if the software isn't there
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Early upgrade pricing is $300 and most everyone will qualify for that. Sell your Captivate for $250-$300 on Craigslist and be done with it. It will be hard to get them to swap it. I tried.
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Early upgrade pricing is $300 and most everyone will qualify for that. Sell your Captivate for $250-$300 on Craigslist and be done with it. It will be hard to get them to swap it. I tried.
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The Inspire is available for $400 with no contract. I'd rather do that than pay $300 for an upgrade and be locked in for 2 more years.
Same boat.... random shutdowns, etc. On my 5th or 6th phone. I have device support center near my house, so swapping them out it easy, but irritating. When I called yesterday, they said I could swap it for an Inspire, but only when the warranty center received refurbished units, which could take 30-90 days. I doubt it will take that long. I do not see them issuing new Inspires to anybody with a problem at 31+ days. I would have to guess they will have refurbs within 30 days, but who knows. Anybody know how long it takes for AT&T to start getting refurbs?
I'm also curious to know if i can do this. I bought a Captivate refurbished, and already got a replacement because of random shut down issues. Maybe i'll give AT&T a call tomorrow and see what I can do, anyone think people interested in this idea have a decent chance as long as we're reasonable to the AT&T rep we speak to?
Tried. Didn't work : /
It's good to know I'm not the only person thinking about the trade out, seeing as how the Inspire 4G is marked monetarily lower than the Captivate but of the same calibur I'm sure that it will be a refurb option really soon. The only thing I dread about going through the warranty process is initially getting back Captivate refurbs that have bigger issues than mine over and over again until AT&T finally gives in and lets me choose another phone of the same calibur which is why I haven't sent mine in for the GPS, media scan of dread and shutdown while charging/rebooting troubles but now that they are becoming more frequent that it's becoming unbearable.
Buying an Inspire straight out or having AT&T extend my contract for another year isn't an option I'm willing to take, that would get me stuck with an inspire until spring 2012 at the least - no thanks I saw what became of the Aria.
The simple fact is the the issues with this phone should have been addressed and resolved a long time ago and we shouldn't have to put on a custom rom to get it to a state that it should have been that way out the box, custom roms should be for fun and enhancements to an already good product not band aids to fix flaws that the manufacturer or carrier wont acknowledge and respond to.
Hopefully in a few weeks once people start going through the Inspire's the option to choose a refurbished Inspire 4G as a swap for a Captivate will become available, either that or the official 2.2 comes out then I'll stick with the captivate until summer, after that AT&T better come correct with the android updates and some stunning hardware or I'll be jumping ship to T-Mobile.
Wow, I didn't realize the captivate was having so many issues...5th and 6th phones? My god.
I got my phone in August and its running like a champ with Darky 9.2.
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true. But with all the bullsh*t that has came with this droid and having to take 5 phones to the post office to be shipped back (only to be refurb'd again and passed off to some other poor bastard)... A $200 etf is like paying for the luxury of no longer putting up with at&t. Every month another $20 less that i have to pay them, etc.
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Wow, I didn't realize the captivate was having so many issues...5th and 6th phones? My god.
I got my phone in August and its running like a champ with Darky 9.2.
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it's true. granted, i've only gone through one phone, but i did have the random shutdown problem, and at first i wasn't bothered by it. it quickly became the most annoying problem ever by occurring more frequently.
I am still skeptical about the whole 4G network with AT&T especially being such crappy coverage service already with their supposed upgraded 3G network. If they said they finally completed their 3G network upgrade and provide this kind of horrible coverage quality, I can't even begin to imagine how their supposed 4G network speeds are as well as the coverage it will support. If i was to get a 4G AT&T phone, I would wait at least half a year to a year to really see how they push their network out onto the market.
I talked to an AT&T rep last night and I think I am goinh to jack the upgrade on one of my kids' line and get the Inspire 4G. I got it for my wife and it was the bomb.
The rep told me the exception upgrade for the Inspire is 199.
I originally posted this in the Inspire 4g General forum:
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I bought the Captivate day 1 in June after all the hype only to be disappointed like many users. I called AT&T customer service about an hour ago and was online with a rep within 10 minutes. I very calmly explained my issues with the Captivate (GPS, rebooting randomly) and asked to be given an early upgrade. Without so much as a question the rep told me he would approve it through his supervisor. It took me less than 30 minutes to have a full upgrade ready whenever I want to use it. That will be in about an hour when I go pick up the Inspire.
TL;DR: If you want to upgrade from your Captivate but stay with AT&T, it is trivially easy to get the full upgrade price.
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Also, the OP says that the Inspire has a front-facing camera, but it does not. Just FYI.
I did it. Love it. Such a better out of the box experience.
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I just got my Captivate from AT&T in December, and I am pretty much unsatisfied with it. I was wondering if any of you here got an early upgrade to an Inspire 4G for just the $99 and $18 activation? No early upgrade fee's? Thank you!
I did. I complained and they gave me a full early upgrade and waived the activation fee. Not only that but they had a $50 off deal going on so I walked out with mine paying $53
Over the phone or AT&T store?
I complained and they said they set up the upgrade for me, I went to the store on release day and it was a clusterfarq. So a few hours later I had my phone. Then a customer service rep called me from corpo and I complained again and got a $20 credit on my account
Good luck
I went to the AT&T Store, and the guys there were very unhelpful. They just turned me down saying "we can't do anything about it."
What exactly did you say?
I received an early upgrade but I was exactly 22 days away from my official upgrade date, which was March 8. I contacted customer service on the phone and threatened them with Big Red and HTC Thunderbolt ( Verizon ) because I have 4 lines and all on recently renewed contract and they put in "special instructions" into the system for when I went to an AT&T Store.
The employee checked and I was eligible . HTC Inspire was mine for 105$
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I received an early upgrade but I was exactly 22 days away from my official upgrade date, which was March 8. I contacted customer service on the phone and threatened them with Big Red and HTC Thunderbolt ( Verizon ) because I have 4 lines and all on recently renewed contract and they put in "special instructions" into the system for when I went to an AT&T Store.
The employee checked and I was eligible . HTC Inspire was mine for 105$
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But you were 22 days away. I am 2 years away, just got the captivate recently.
I was wondering if it's possible to early upgrade now like I read some people did.
I got upgraded for no fee today. I don't know if it helped that I knew the assistant manager. Just a coincidence I went to high school with the guy. Such a big difference in this phone compared to my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. It is worth the try to get an early upgrade!
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I got upgraded for no fee today. I don't know if it helped that I knew the assistant manager. Just a coincidence I went to high school with the guy. Such a big difference in this phone compared to my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. It is worth the try to get an early upgrade!
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Can he help me?? AT&T screwed me. They said the cheapest I can get it is $470 early upgrade, and he would take $200 from the bill. Still very high... I am pissed off. I threatened to change to Verizon, but nothing. Even higher level support didn't have the "authority" to change the prices for loyal customers for the past 7 or so years. SMH.
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Can he help me?? AT&T screwed me. They said the cheapest I can get it is $470 early upgrade, and he would take $200 from the bill. Still very high... I am pissed off. I threatened to change to Verizon, but nothing. Even higher level support didn't have the "authority" to change the prices for loyal customers for the past 7 or so years. SMH.
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How would it be $470? The non-commitment pricing of this phone is 399.99 the most you would pay even in California where the tax is applied to the full retail value of the phone would be $435.
Sell the Captivate. Get $200 for it. Then buy the phone for the early upgrade price of $299.99. Still only pay $99 for it.
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I just got my Captivate from AT&T in December, and I am pretty much unsatisfied with it. I was wondering if any of you here got an early upgrade to an Inspire 4G for just the $99 and $18 activation? No early upgrade fee's? Thank you!
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No offence but you kept it past it's 30 day return policy. It's not AT&T's fault that you suddenly want a new phone a few months later. If you really want it, dish out the $399. That's not too bad.
It's like buying a new car and a few months later deciding on you wanted a Honda instead of a Ford.
We all make choices in life. You made one....now live with it.
Att can not do upgrades over the phone if you are not within 4 months of upgrading. You can't do it in store unless you are so many days from upgrading. Nothing they can do about it.
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I just got my Captivate from AT&T in December, and I am pretty much unsatisfied with it. I was wondering if any of you here got an early upgrade to an Inspire 4G for just the $99 and $18 activation? No early upgrade fee's? Thank you!
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I talked with AT&T about this as well. I got my refurbed Captivate in October. To qualify for for the exception upgrade, you need to wait 6 months. For me that is April around my birthday. They told me the cost to get the phone them would be whatever the 2 year contract price is for the phone plus $100.00. I have had this confirmed multiple times. I am hoping with the Atrix coming out and other potential offering with FFC and dual processors, that the two year price for the Captivate will plummet and I can get it cheaper as those other things do not matter to me.
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I talked with AT&T about this as well. I got my refurbed Captivate in October. To qualify for for the exception upgrade, you need to wait 6 months. For me that is April around my birthday. They told me the cost to get the phone them would be whatever the 2 year contract price is for the phone plus $100.00. I have had this confirmed multiple times. I am hoping with the Atrix coming out and other potential offering with FFC and dual processors, that the two year price for the Captivate will plummet and I can get it cheaper as those other things do not matter to me.
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Actually that is incorrect. Early upgrade on a Data device is 2 yr pricing plus $200.
Non smart phones it's 2 yr pricing plus $75.
I am sorry they gave your wrong information.
So basically you guys are saying I'm screwed. Yeah, was afraid of that. Hope someone wants to trade an Inspire for my Captivate. Maybe convince someone who isn't a techy at school. Haha.
Wow, sooooo many diff experiences. I purchased my Captivate and renewed my contract in August. I went to the At&t store on launch day perpared to pay $399 for it as we have a Corp. account. The rep told me if he would give me an early upgrade by starting my contract from that day. By doing this I was able to get it for $299 which was fine by me. 6 months for a $100 sounded like a deal to me. He said I would be eligible for upgrade again in 20 months and kept my unlimited data. Honestly, one of better experiences I had with them in the past 7 years.
I still think you should sell the cap on the market here for about $200(or more) take the $200 off and end up paying $70~ out of pocket... In my opinion the inspire is well worth it.
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I still think you should sell the cap on the market here for about $200(or more) take the $200 off and end up paying $70~ out of pocket... In my opinion the inspire is well worth it.
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They sell on eBay for around $300. Maybe I should try there...
Just thought I'd pop in here and share my experience with switching from the Captivate to the Inspire.
I have only been an AT&T customer since August 2010. I have a couple of calls to ATT Customer service in my record where they documented my unhappiness with the GPS and lack of Froyo updates. When @samsungjohn came to the Captivate portal and stirred the pot with Samsung's PR stunt I had finally had enough I called 611 again and was polite, and nicely explained to the CSR my complaints with the Captivate. I asked if there was ANYTHING that they could do to move me into another phone, I never mentioned wanting to cancel my account or raised my voice in any way. The CSR told me that he understood my frustration and he had heard similar complaints before.
He was able to put a $150 dollar credit on my account and I was able to sell my Captivate for $200 so I walked out of a Corporate AT&T store with my Inspire at a net cost of $50 to me.
Maybe I got lucky, or maybe AT&T is hearing from a LOT of people like me and is losing customers, I don't know.
Just thought I'd share.
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Just thought I'd pop in here and share my experience with switching from the Captivate to the Inspire.
I have only been an AT&T customer since August 2010. I have a couple of calls to ATT Customer service in my record where they documented my unhappiness with the GPS and lack of Froyo updates. When @samsungjohn came to the Captivate portal and stirred the pot with Samsung's PR stunt I had finally had enough I called 611 again and was polite, and nicely explained to the CSR my complaints with the Captivate. I asked if there was ANYTHING that they could do to move me into another phone, I never mentioned wanting to cancel my account or raised my voice in any way. The CSR told me that he understood my frustration and he had heard similar complaints before.
He was able to put a $150 dollar credit on my account and I was able to sell my Captivate for $200 so I walked out of a Corporate AT&T store with my Inspire at a net cost of $50 to me.
Maybe I got lucky, or maybe AT&T is hearing from a LOT of people like me and is losing customers, I don't know.
Just thought I'd share.
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And maybe the highlighted part was the real reason. At any rate, congrats on the early upgrade. I'm lovin this device more and more.
Ill give the short version... preordered on the 15th. told i'd get today. rep NEVER told me i needed to sign some email for verification. Email was sent to some god awful old address i dont even use. all that was offered was a $10 credit. Ive been w/ tmobile since like 02' and thats the best they can do??. call back and he can give a free month but only if i extend for 2 yrs....no thanks. So now i have to go to the store tomorrow and wait another day to get the phone. Oh ya btw i dropped my current phone in the toilet and it doesnt work so i have no phone @ the moment. im so livid I cant even see straight...... seriously considering another carrier just off of principle alone..
Call and talk to customer retention... They'll do much better.
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both offers WERE from retention...i thought they could do much better as well.
Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
They did the 249 for me on 2 g2x. I was at the sprint store.
I would of had a deposit on sprint. So it evened out.
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Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Retention's not doing deals like they used to....... cont'd
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it seems like your right. I mean lets be serious. they KNOW i want the phone. hell I already bought accesorries for it so ya I am going to get it. its just how they went about the whole thing was so wrong i could not believe i was speaking with tmobile. The last guy who offered the free month w/ 2yr extension @ one point said " what do you want us to do?" and not in a helpful way. Like a "we dont care if you cancel;good riddance" kind of way. im still in shock over the whole thing. But its like im trapped. either shake this off and get the phone or go with another carrier, get charged an ETF for breaking contract then getting a higher bill with AT&T, sprint ,etc.
I had a $400 flexpay available which I took... There was on ONLINE form which required me to type in my name.
The only email I got was that my payment went through and it shipped.
Mine said it was supposed to be here Monday so I sold my N1 online. I called last night because it hadn't arrived nor had UPS showed it was even shipped. The lady on the phone told me that online orders were "pre-orders" and the phone wasn't even supposed to ship until Wednesday. I had her and her manager go to the website and tell me where, anywhere, did it say a preorder. I also said people were getting them already and they "assured" me that no one was getting them yet.
I actually had the supervisor cancel the order because I said I'd rather pick it up Wednesday rather then have it ship Wednesday. 20 minutes after I got off the phone, UPS showed it was picked up and scheduled for next day delivery. So I don't even know if they cancelled it or just got it shipped.
Just cancel it and pick one up at the store tomorrow. At this point it isn't even worth fighting with them to get it shipped. I ordered mine Friday with standard shipping and I just got mine a few minutes ago.
Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my N1 and MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
Ask for a rep to come bring you a phone immediately. That's how you only paid $100 for the phone with no contract right?
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Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
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Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
uploder said:
it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Blame your state. That's why this is in place. What other carrier lets you split your phone up in payments? I'll go with.... none. It was their fault for not checking the email addy but come on it is only one more day.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
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That's the full discounted price of the phone, so sounds like a good deal they gave you, but they should never had told u to go back to VZW, they should have went thru the bill and lowered it and also gave you an unlock code for your current phone so when you roam internationally you can just grab a pre-paid sim from where ever you are for way cheaper prices.
jimbo831 said:
Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
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i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
sk337sk337 said:
but come on it is only one more day.
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the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
uploder said:
i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
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I definitely wasn't calling you out specifically, more just a general statement, or if anyone specifically it was Barry that said they aren't doing what they used to.
Regarding your situation, if they offered you a free month, that is usually the most retention will give as far as financial credits, and it will always require a 2 year contract from my experience (in customer care, not as a customer threatening to cancel).
You really want to go to some crap company over a couple days, when you are the one who ruined your other phone?? And if you are buying this, I am sure you can afford to spend $20 for a prepaid at walmart to give you the basic functionality that is essential. Geesh
uploder said:
it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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I was still in contract with 10 months to go for a full upgrade. When I called, I asked about the upgrade. When the CSR told me I didn't qualify for the upgrade I immediately asked how much it would be just to cancel the service. She said "$200" and my reply to her was "Thats it? I may as well just do that then." She right away offered me a full upgrade.
I too had to go along with the electronic signature but my CSR was nice enough to ask me what email to send it to and let me know when it was coming. I feel for you, man. It's a shame that most companies are straying away from quality customer service, especially with consumers that have been long term with the company. I guarantee if you were a new customer, they would have bent over backwards for you.
uploder said:
the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
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How have you been with tmo that long and don't have a phone laying around? I have at least 3 that I could dig up and throw a sim in.
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Three months after signing up with T-Mobile, I was already considering dropping their service and going back to Sprint or switching to Virgin Mobile. Why? Here goes...
I signed up for service online, paid the $100 deposit, got the 500 Minute Value Talk plan w/the 2GB Data Plan. I then chose my free G2x and successfully submitted my order. Waited several days to check the status of my order online and saw that my order had been shipped. In order to verify the status, I then called Customer Care and then...the headaches began.
According to everyone I spoke with the phone had not been sent, but they were making sure the phone would be delivered. I must have spoken to several agents until one of them, eventually said the plan was not eligible for a Free Phone. "But I successfully completed the order!"
I eventually bought an HTC MyTouch 4G from another T-Mobile customer who had the phone for a little over a month and had bought a different model. I rooted my phone and never had any extreme problems, other than download speed up until recently, when the Camera and Camcorder crapped out on me. Restored back to stock and tried other ROMS. I also followed suggestions posted in many threads addressing the issue with the cameras, flashing different "Camera" apps, and nothing.
Having gone through many hours of trying to fix my phone, I called HTC to gather as much info on my particular device. They stated the year warranty would expire in April of this year and they would gladly fix the phone for me for free, but I would incur a charge if they found I had voided the warranty. They emailed me an RA form, but I decided to speak to someone at T-Mobile, and based on the info I provided them, they promised a replacement device, but requested my phone's software version. I told them I would call back from another device the following day since I had some "errands" and stuff to do.
I then restored my phone to stock, restored S-On, ran the updates on my device and then called T-Mobile, but then they rejected my request after the replacement was promised by a Supervisor in Tech Support. All they needed to do was verify the IMEI and presto, but I was not able to get my way, so I just left it alone. A week later, I had some voice issues in which I wasn't able to make or receive calls even after removing the battery from the phone, until I was able to get a Customer Care agent who seemed to be outside the Continental U.S. This nice fellow interrupted me while I was explaining my situation to him and said he was going to transfer me to an Account Specialist based on the information he'd seen in the notes. After I asked why, he stated they valued me as a new T-Mobile customer. I was like, "Whatever".
Upon doing a warm-transfer, a young lady by the name of Ashley, indicated she was going to talk to a supervisor and I asked if there was something wrong with my account, but she refused to give me any info. After coming back on the line, she stated her sup had authorized a replacement ticket which was being emailed to me while we spoke, in which they would replace my MyTouch 4G at no cost to me. Imagine that! She apologized on behalf of the company for the misinformation I was given at time and the poor customer service. Three months of crappy overall service and I got a new phone! My download speeds on the bad device were less than 2000kbps. Now, they're at a high 6000kbps.
That girl and the small group of dedicated T-Mobile employees who go beyond their call of duty, deserve an applause. My contract and plan stayed the same. There are good folks at T-Mobile...you just have to keep trying.
Man. What a pain. If you had raised a fuss initially, you could have gotten your G2X. A contract is a contract and you signed up for a free G2X, which their system sold you. I'm pretty sure they were legally bound to give you one. Did you have a receipt?
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estallings15 said:
Man. What a pain. If you had raised a fuss initially, you could have gotten your G2X. A contract is a contract and you signed up for a free G2X, which their system sold you. I'm pretty sure they were legally bound to give you one. Did you have a receipt?
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Not only did I have a printed one, but snapshots and HTML code from the actual page. Believe me, I wanted to raise hell at first, but I thought it would be a waste of time. While with Sprint, I like others, had access to the Sprint Executive Customer Service Hotline number thanks to The Consumerist, but with T-Mobile I just felt I was out in the cold from Day 1.
The phone replacement doesn't change my perception of their overall Customer Care and Retention Department. One of the last persons I spoke to before talking to the gentleman and Ashley, was a rep from their Spanish-speaking Retention Department. I asked for at least one minimal incentive for me to stay with T-Mobile and her answer was this: "I cannot provide you with even the slightest discount because you are a new customer." Yeah...but one who's paying for a service.
I wish I had stayed with Sprint. I worked for them through ACS in their Tech Support Department. When the store reps wouldn't deliver, we'd jump in and prevent even an escalation to retention. I guess that's what keeps me ticked off at them. I hate not getting the service I strive to always provide my customers with.
I'll stay with them til after my contract is over
I have never experienced bad customer service through my 3 years with T-Mobile, but then again, I never really needed it throughout the time. I got a replacement phone on Monday, and the lady I talked to for it was very kind and polite.
steven-026 said:
I have never experienced bad customer service through my 3 years with T-Mobile, but then again, I never really needed it throughout the time. I got a replacement phone on Monday, and the lady I talked to for it was very kind and polite.
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Wow...I guess because you've been with them for a while. Glad they were able to help you and be nice about it to.
My wife and I couldn't pass up TMos 2 for $99 /mo plan but it took 7 different reps to get that sorted out cuz no one had heard of it ... even though it was all over the radio and on their homepage! - Gotta say they were quite ready to help even if they didn't seem to know what they were doing.
Homerbsharp said:
My wife and I couldn't pass up TMos 2 for $99 /mo plan but it took 7 different reps to get that sorted out cuz no one had heard of it ... even though it was all over the radio and on their homepage! - Gotta say they were quite ready to help even if they didn't seem to know what they were doing.
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Had same prob till I found someone who told me I had to pay $200 per line migration fee. Been with tmo for 6 years but if I pay$200 a line its going to be to cancel... when I started they were great even gave me free month when messed up bill but recently when renewed had to call 10 times to get texting cuz every bill was 800 and they said they fixed but still have to call every month
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