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Hello,
I resided in Colorado here in the states. I want to obtain a Sensation 4G from Canada (Bell or Virgin Mobile) but despite hours of trying to figure this out I simply can not figure out how to import one. Bell and VM will not ship to the US and they also want a person to sign up for a 30 day term even buying a unlocked full price phone. On top of this I can not seem to find an resellers who will ship one of these to me here in the US.
To clarify I am on AT&T and as such need one of these phones as T-Mobile's model will not work for 4G
Any advice on this would be great, Thank you.
id hate to say it, but youre SOL for the time being...bell HATES their hardware going anywhere but bell, and as for virgin, theyre a little more leinent, but wont ship out of canada...your best bet is to try to strike an arrangement/deal with a canadian XDA member to buy and ship one to you...
the other downside is that the canadian S4G isnt carrier unlocked yet
Thank you very much for the information, this is exactly what I feared. I think I might need to just put my money in my sock drawer for now and wait at atleast for them to start unlocking the phones before going through the hassle of contacting a friend in Canada to have them ship me a phone.
Thanks again.
I bought a Bell Sensation 4G from Wireless Wave for the full price ($549 CAD). There were no hassles, contracts, etc.
The only downside at the moment is there are no unlock codes available for Bell Sensation IMEIs; supposedly, this should become available this week.
There are several online shops that will ship to you, I have one myself. Just waiting for the unlock codes
Funk2641 said:
There are several online shops that will ship to you, I have one myself. Just waiting for the unlock codes
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Can you point me in the direction of a specific shop? I can not seem to find one.
routehero said:
I bought a Bell Sensation 4G from Wireless Wave for the full price ($549 CAD). There were no hassles, contracts, etc.
The only downside at the moment is there are no unlock codes available for Bell Sensation IMEIs; supposedly, this should become available this week.
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Was this purchase from a physical store or the website?
Jeffery.Lenz said:
Can you point me in the direction of a specific shop? I can not seem to find one.
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http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
I got mine from Negri...problem is, it's still locked
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I got mine from Negri...problem is, it's still locked
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Shame neither location has them, and they are significantly more expensive then the cell carrier prices.
i am also curious what carrier your phone is locked to?
Jeffery.Lenz said:
Shame neither location has them, and they are significantly more expensive then the cell carrier prices.
i am also curious what carrier your phone is locked to?
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I use Att as well, the phone is locked to Bell at the moment. Just waiting till the unlocked codes are available.
Check the unlock threads in General guys, the codes are out. Should be super easy to get one now as long as your willing to pay full price.
Hi
I'm in the US for my Masters degree, and wanted to get a L920 or 8X from AT&T, no contract. I'll be returning home(India) for Christmas, will they let me unlock it for international travel? I heard many L900 users were refused unlock codes.
rcazador said:
Hi
I'm in the US for my Masters degree, and wanted to get a L920 or 8X from AT&T, no contract. I'll be returning home(India) for Christmas, will they let me unlock it for international travel? I heard many L900 users were refused unlock codes.
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A few years back I was on AT&T and had a Motorola RAZR V3xx and I got them to unlock it by telling them I am in the military and will be traveling overseas and needed the MSL so I could use overseas SIM cards. They insisted that I didn't need it but I insisted that guys in my unit were having problems with overseas SIMs and I didn't want the same issue...You could probably do this too
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A few years back I was on AT&T and had a Motorola RAZR V3xx and I got them to unlock it by telling them I am in the military and will be traveling overseas and needed the MSL so I could use overseas SIM cards. They insisted that I didn't need it but I insisted that guys in my unit were having problems with overseas SIMs and I didn't want the same issue...You could probably do this too
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That's promising, thanks. Did they get you to relock it to their network when you returned?
I tried Googling this and all I got was iPhone unlock procedures, so I was kinda scared that the other phones would have to be kept for a longer time before unlock. Because in this case I'll need to unlock it in about a month after getting it.
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That's promising, thanks. Did they get you to relock it to their network when you returned?
I tried Googling this and all I got was iPhone unlock procedures, so I was kinda scared that the other phones would have to be kept for a longer time before unlock. Because in this case I'll need to unlock it in about a month after getting it.
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Good luck talking me into "relocking" my phone to your network I never relocked it and ended up selling it a year later for a few extra bucks...unlocked phones sell for a little better used.
Oh and for the record I never actually went overseas...I wanted my phone unlocked so I went online and asked in modmymoto and someone who I probably should remember but don't, suggested that I tell them that story...So not my idea, but it did work
rcazador said:
Hi
I'm in the US for my Masters degree, and wanted to get a L920 or 8X from AT&T, no contract. I'll be returning home(India) for Christmas, will they let me unlock it for international travel? I heard many L900 users were refused unlock codes.
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If they won't unlock it, then just buy an unlock code online.
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ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Good luck talking me into "relocking" my phone to your network I never relocked it and ended up selling it a year later for a few extra bucks...unlocked phones sell for a little better used.
Oh and for the record I never actually went overseas...I wanted my phone unlocked so I went online and asked in modmymoto and someone who I probably should remember but don't, suggested that I tell them that story...So not my idea, but it did work
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I'm hoping they haven't wised up to this.
Shawn said:
If they won't unlock it, then just buy an unlock code online.
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Just google this, thanks. It seems there are many, many sites just for this. A bit expensive but helpful if att dont agree.
Really???
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
A few years back I was on AT&T and had a Motorola RAZR V3xx and I got them to unlock it by telling them I am in the military and will be traveling overseas and needed the MSL so I could use overseas SIM cards. They insisted that I didn't need it but I insisted that guys in my unit were having problems with overseas SIMs and I didn't want the same issue...You could probably do this too
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Is it better to pay $39 bucks or Lie and be ashamed of yourself. Come on now. If your really traveling, this method always works, but lying just to get an unlock code, how unpatriotic. Is this how you mom taught you?
haris3 said:
Is it better to pay $39 bucks or Lie and be ashamed of yourself. Come on now. If your really traveling, this method always works, but lying just to get an unlock code, how unpatriotic. Is this how you mom taught you?
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Phone companies and ridiculous data plans pretty much robbing you? Now come on... surely that is a crime! How unpatriotic!
P.S. way to revive a 2 month old thread just to be a wise guy
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I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.
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I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.
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I forgot to mention if T-Mobile did these two questions to the Nexus 4.
Doubtful about the logo and apps, though if I had to guess, it'll probably cost $449.99-$499.99 for the 16GB model.
I have a Nexus 4 that I got directly from T-Mobile, there is absolutely no difference from the ones you get from the play store. The packaging is the same, no branding on the device, and no additional apps added. The Nexus 5 should be the same. T-Mobile gets it...
Should be no difference...
and the price should be $599
Not branded. No tmobile apps. Google rules!
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Not branded. No tmobile apps. Google rules!
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And T-Mobile! Don't forget it's the carriers who usually muck things up.
rmkilc said:
And T-Mobile! Don't forget it's the carriers who usually muck things up.
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They are definitely the best US carrier when it comes to that sort of junk to begin with, but I am still surprised that there is apparently no branding/bloatware at all. That is pretty cool.
raph22 said:
I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.
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Nexus 5 is not a carrier locked device. There is only the unlocked North America version or the unlocked International version, regardless of who sells it.
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They are definitely the best US carrier when it comes to that sort of junk to begin with, but I am still surprised that there is apparently no branding/bloatware at all. That is pretty cool.
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They were the first carrier to push Android, even before it was Android (Danger Sidekick), and had the first Android phone (G1). /ahh....cupcake...those were the daze...
People.... whether you buy the phone from Google, T-Mobile, Sprint, Best Buy, eBay, or the back of some dude's van, IT'S THE SAME PHONE.
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People.... whether you buy the phone from Google, T-Mobile, Sprint, Best Buy, eBay, or the back of some dude's van, IT'S THE SAME PHONE.
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I actually wouldn't trust the back of some dude's fan (sarcasm back). But yeah, they're all the same device. Only exception is international which would be outside the U.S. where its D821 and not D820
T-Mobile probably sell the nexus 5 with $50-$100 down and $20-25/mo for 24 months. That's their new no-contract plan.
I would gladly pay more to buy direct from tmo if they would leave plain vanilla and just give some way to install wifi calling. That is the only carrier app that anyone ever gave a crap about.
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I would gladly pay more to buy direct from tmo if they would leave plain vanilla and just give some way to install wifi calling. That is the only carrier app that anyone ever gave a crap about.
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That and insurance coverage. TMO will only insure phones that they carry.
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That and insurance coverage. TMO will only insure phones that they carry.
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Would that be the case if you bought a N5 under jump?
Not sure, you would need to ask one of the veteran TMO users.
I sure hope most people know that using that T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling actually uses your minutes if you're not on an unlimited calling plan... I've seen tons of people mention it, and I know it can be useful in areas with limited 2G/3G/4G/LTE coverage as a backup but, in spite of it making things easier, it still chunks your calling minutes off, as screwy as that seems.
When I realized that after signing up for the $30/monthly plan with T-Mobile that I've had for nearly 2 years now, I promptly dropped that crappy aspect of things and went to Google Voice + Talkatone for VoIP calls, never had a problem since but in 2014 Google apparently is going to "pull the plug" on third party apps that make use of Google Voice in that respect.
Kinda sucks but, maybe Google's got something planned themselves for VoIP, who the hell knows. It would put a hurtin' on Skype for damned sure...
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I sure hope most people know that using that T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling actually uses your minutes if you're not on an unlimited calling plan... I've seen tons of people mention it, and I know it can be useful in areas with limited 2G/3G/4G/LTE coverage as a backup but, in spite of it making things easier, it still chunks your calling minutes off, as screwy as that seems.
When I realized that after signing up for the $30/monthly plan with T-Mobile that I've had for nearly 2 years now, I promptly dropped that crappy aspect of things and went to Google Voice + Talkatone for VoIP calls, never had a problem since but in 2014 Google apparently is going to "pull the plug" on third party apps that make use of Google Voice in that respect.
Kinda sucks but, maybe Google's got something planned themselves for VoIP, who the hell knows. It would put a hurtin' on Skype for damned sure...
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yup, I'm aware of that and I do have unlimited minutes. Probably good that you mentioned it in case someone doesn't understand how it works.
Ok so I bought a phone off craiglist. I'm pretty cautious and had the customer service number and called Tmobile with the ESN/IMEI number. I asked them specifically if the person were to cancel their contract or if there was a contract or can anything that seller do in the future cause me problems and they said "NO". Now 7 weeks later the ESN is blocked. Do they keep records of my conversation? I had tmobile service and even have the time I called them since I still have the texts from the guy who sold it.
I called the guy and he said he would take care of it, but he could be just saying that then blocking my calls now so who knows. Has anyone had Tmobile fix the problems since they were the ones that said things would be fine? I called them and they said "no", but I didn't have the exact time and just realized I know the exact time and date I called them.
at the time you checked, it probably wasnt blacklisted, which happened after.
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at the time you checked, it probably wasnt blacklisted, which happened after.
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Yeah for sure. That's why I said is there any possibility that it can get black listed and they said "no". The lady yesterday on the phone said they don't recommend buying from a 3rd party. I wish the person I spoke to said that. I almost can't blame the guy who sold me the phone since I got off the phone with tmobile in front of him after they guaranteed no problems. :crying:
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Yeah for sure. That's why I said is there any possibility that it can get black listed and they said "no". The lady yesterday on the phone said they don't recommend buying from a 3rd party. I wish the person I spoke to said that. I almost can't blame the guy who sold me the phone since I got off the phone with tmobile in front of him after they guaranteed no problems. :crying:
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no, you should blame him, for not being truthful. he had the phone blacklisted or he "stole" the phone from them by not paying for it.
Just switch to AT&T
should work fine with them
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Just switch to AT&T
should work fine with them
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when its blacklisted on tmo, its blacklisted on att as well. they now keep a national registrar together.
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no, you should blame him, for not being truthful. he had the phone blacklisted or he "stole" the phone from them by not paying for it.
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yes you're right
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when its blacklisted on tmo, its blacklisted on att as well. they now keep a national registrar together.
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Is it black listed in foreign countries like Taiwan? How about mainland China. My gf can send to her family in China. So I can disclose it is blacklisted and maybe it's worth $150 to someone who can take it out of the country. My other friend is from HK so he can send to his brother.
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Is it black listed in foreign countries like Taiwan? How about mainland China. My gf can send to her family in China. So I can disclose it is blacklisted and maybe it's worth $150 to someone who can take it out of the country. My other friend is from HK so he can send to his brother.
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no, just in the US. i dont think that canadian carriers are involved either.
Next time use swappa to see if it's being financed or not. If it's financed, don't buy it. It will tell you if it's fully paid off. It can't protect from it being a stolen phone, but it can help.
http://swappa.com/esn
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no, just in the US. i dont think that canadian carriers are involved either.
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Not true, Canadian carriers uses the same database as well.
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Not true, Canadian carriers uses the same database as well.
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not true? I said I don't think.. that implies that I don't really know if Canadian carriers use it or not. but now I know :angel:
Flash it to Page Plus. At least they will take it. Or maybe it will activate on Sprint?
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Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
maybe people who are stuck in twrp bootloop?
Tmobile service sucks maybe
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Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........
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A good number of All but one of 'em are unopened/New,they probably bought 'em to take advantage of the $200 Rebate & headphone offers.
As long as they have a net gain from purchase price/rebate/sale price,I suppose it's a worthwhile endeavor.........
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T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.
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T-Mobile is basically giving these things away. If they used the trade in thing, it makes the phone either free or less than $200. They probably have another phone they are using and don't plan on leaving T-Mobile, so they just got one and are selling it. T-Mobile, effectively, puts you in a contract doing this. They take the price of the phone and give you bill credits for the whole term of the EIP. If you terminate service, you owe the phone. Combine that with the free line promotion they had a few days prior, I am guessing this is what is happening. The contract does not say anything about using the phone. As long as they keep their bill current and keep their service, it will be able to be used (I think...). I would be careful buying one of these V20s in case you are not allowed to use the phone on a line that isn't associated with the account, but that is me being a worry wort.
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Swappa won't let you sell a phone that still has anything owed on it. They check the IMEI.
I assume the bill credits wouldn't affect this as long as the phone is free and clear.
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Like 23 right now compare that to 6 AT&T and 7 Verizon branded units. What exactly is the deal with T-Mobile?
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I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.
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I bought one unopened for $485. It was purchased with the T-mobile employee discount for $285.
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Nice find,congratulations! ?
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Nice find,congratulations!
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I assume lot of the unopened were bought with significant discounts. They are being sold for $500 +/- $15.
Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.
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Watch out t-mobile is the carrier that's gets the lg partner purchase program phones. They can not be carrier unlocked. That's why there up and cheap.
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I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................
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I'm guessing you can use a paid SIM Unlock service to override this........................
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Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.
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Won't work. When they go to get the unlock code from T-Mobile the imei isn't in their system so they can't get it and it can't be done. Trust me. I've seen this happen on the v10 and g5. Just look it up.
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If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....
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If that's the case, I'd think the sellers would know better than to post a listing on Swappa.
Guess we'll find out soon enough how many of the listings are fraudulent.....
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There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.
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There not fraudulent. Not sure why u think that. Theres nothing wrong with selling lg partner purchase program phones. They just can't be carrier unlocked and the sellers don't go out of their way to tell you. They just say their not sure.
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Full disclosure is a given when selling on Swappa,anything less would be fraudulent,if not to the letter of the rules,it certainly would be in spirit/practice.
This is some good information though,glad you brought it up. :good:
I'm betting a lot of folks have never heard of such a thing.
Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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I'd heard of employee deals/mfg-partner phones/etc..,but,I didn't know about the SIM Unlocking issue.
Again,many THX for bringing this up,you've no doubt saved some people a lot of trouble. :highfive:
FWIW,here's Swappa's policy on clean ESN's:
https://swappa.com/faq/sell/share_esn_numbers
Bulletproof,no,but,it sounds as if they're doing their due dilligence w/researching the ESN/IMEI,perhaps w/more tools than the general public is armed with.
Some sharp individuals here on XDA/Swappa running the show,I'm guessing/hoping they have this scenario covered,enough to ensure the buyers are protected in a worse-case scenario.
A little bit off topic, can you get square trade insurance for phones purchased at swappa?
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Yeah ur right. Lol I wast trying to buy a v10 and g5 earlier this year and ran into this situation. Very difficult to deal with. Most sellers selling them do t really understand them selves and they blame T-Mobile. It probly is T-Mobile fault since it's branded T-Mobile. Just want everyone to be aware they can't be unlocked, even a third party unlock service can't. Having it on ur account for 40 days doesnt matter either. It's a crappy situation lol
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Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.
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Um I'm not trying to be a pain but I bought my G5 from Tmobile and had it unlocked in 24 hours as I was traveling out of the country. I used the app on the phone and the code the rep gave me. I've traveled to 7 countries since then and used sim cards from each one no problem.
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Ur probly wasn't a lg partner purchase program one then lol.