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Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
ima_UNC_fan said:
...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
Ok I did this the other day and haven't messed with it much. Not sure I would recommend it for daily use. As landscape, gps and some other minor issues are present. This also isn't for the showcase. This started out as a mix of the Fascinate port/Cm7 Mtd for the mesmerize. Then a mix of miui android. So credit goes to them guys though it has some stuff done by myself.
First I am not responsible if your phone bursts into flames and melts down. Or anything of the such. You took the risk flashing it.
Now on to getting started first you need to download the fascinate radio below:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16907924/ec01_radio.tar
Plug it into odin in the pda spot. Yank the battery, plug in your usb cord, followed by holding volume down. Then flash it ( Pretty sure you know the deal) Once done download Miui 1.6.10 Cmtd below:
http://2fastroms.com/dm_eds/download.php?id=22
Transfer it to your sd card. Boot into cwm recovery using the 3 finger method. Perform a wipe and format system. Though probably not needed. Then install the above rom. Once installed reboot. First boot will take awhile. But it should boot.
To get off of the rom you need to odin ec-10 on repartition. You can supply feedback as it would better help me with issues you find. But do not complain something doesn't work. Also if someone would grab screenshots and upload them I will add them to the post.
Gonna give this a shot....not being pushy, just asking, is there a mes version of the latest release in the works?... I dont know what happened, but I was running this fine (the Fascinate version) with the EC01 radio, then something happened, I did a Factory reset, and since then, any 2.3.4 MTD rom I flash is missing 3g Data. It keeps connecting and disconnecting, and will never actually transfer information almost like it will only connect to Verizons towers and will not register my 3g data...really bummed
**Edit Also, does the latest CM7 MIUI MTD kernel work with this??... curious
** Edit 2 Apparently this breaks my 3g Data as well.... WTF
bwot75 said:
Gonna give this a shot....not being pushy, just asking, is there a mes version of the latest release in the works?... I dont know what happened, but I was running this fine (the Fascinate version) with the EC01 radio, then something happened, I did a Factory reset, and since then, any 2.3.4 MTD rom I flash is missing 3g Data. It keeps connecting and disconnecting, and will never actually transfer information almost like it will only connect to Verizons towers and will not register my 3g data...really bummed
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If you have not yet try to reflash the eco1 radio and see if that fixes the issue. if not relash to ec10 stock and see if issue exists. if it fixes it then try and come back to the eco1 miui
col try dl09 radio im using it right now on my mez and its working fine..
I have tried everything to fix this data issue.. I have COMPLETELY wiped the phone and started from scratch (even re-activated it) re-partitioned and flashed EC10 flashed EC01 radio, factory reset, deifferent roms...it ONLY breaks with 2.3.4 MTD roms...I think I may try having US Cellular reset my phone....I dont know..frustration level is on the rise though lol... it all started when I went to do a factory reset on my phone, after it re-booted it forced me to do an activation (just like *228, but I didnt initialize it) and then 3g data was COMPLETELY broken..I fixed that, but since have not been able to make an mtd rom work
Any mtd aosp kernel should work. I have a few things on my plate at the moment so I haven't finished this or working on a update today.
As for the data. Gas says he has the issue also but I don't. Data works fine for me and was reported working for a few. So the only thing I can guess is perhaps something in your guys area is different in the network compared to say mine. Which possibly isn't handled right or just something missing. It could also be that a piece of code is incorrect or missing.
I really have no idea though as I am not in the loop for details on what is being done. How ever cm fixed the source for the apn issue and once I can track it down to what is causing it to happen we should have mms in miui and cm. Unless fixed already as I haven't been paying attention.
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Any mtd aosp kernel should work. I have a few things on my plate at the moment so I haven't finished this or working on a update today.
As for the data. Gas says he has the issue also but I don't. Data works fine for me and was reported working for a few. So the only thing I can guess is perhaps something in your guys area is different in the network compared to say mine. Which possibly isn't handled right or just something missing. It could also be that a piece of code is incorrect or missing.
I really have no idea though as I am not in the loop for details on what is being done. How ever cm fixed the source for the apn issue and once I can track it down to what is causing it to happen we should have mms in miui and cm. Unless fixed already as I haven't been paying attention.
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Thats ok...what annoys me the most is the fact that it WAS working for a while...then I royally F'd things up lol
bwot75 said:
Thats ok...what annoys me the most is the fact that it WAS working for a while...then I royally F'd things up lol
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How are you doing a "factory reset", through CWM - right?
If you really want to help us figure this out you need to try and debug and pull log's so that we can try and locate the problem - MTD is obvoiusly VERY new so there is no "known" fixes or issues, so it's not going to be easy figuring out the problem.
When you're using odin to go to a FULL STOCK BUILD (meaning one without the added recoveries and root) are you checking the "repartition" box?
OK, three things,
1. This isn't an actual port.
2. Any and all Fascinate rom should work with this method.
3a. For TW roms, build.prop needs editing;
3b. For AOSP roms, /system/ect/ppp needs to be copied from a TW rom;
3c. For both, apns-conf.xml and coma-carriers-conf.xml need to be copied from a Mez rom.
So, yeah, not for the faint of heart, but that's what we get for being regional.
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OK, three things,
1. This isn't an actual port.
2. Any and all Fascinate rom should work with this method.
3a. For TW roms, build.prop needs editing;
3b. For AOSP roms, /system/ect/ppp needs to be copied from a TW rom;
3c. For both, apns-conf.xml and coma-carriers-conf.xml need to be copied from a Mez rom.
So, yeah, not for the faint of heart, but that's what we get for being regional.
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Uh, not sure where this came from (meaning why you're posting it at this point) but a small correction to your list above would be - build.prop needs to be edited for ALL rom's tw/or AOSP based.
wait odin full ec10 then when it boots up *228 then after tht flash to mtd
KillKount said:
OK, three things,
1. This isn't an actual port.
First you are going to piss me off. As I believe you need to stick to trying to port w/e you were asking about not to long ago.
2. Any and all Fascinate rom should work with this method.
To the above and I have no clue wtf you are talking about.
3a. For TW roms, build.prop needs editing;
3b. For AOSP roms, /system/ect/ppp needs to be copied from a TW rom;
3c. For both, apns-conf.xml and coma-carriers-conf.xml need to be copied from a Mez rom.
Again you need to stick to w/e you do as you are doing a good job posting something you have no clue about. As any miui is port besides what is released for I think 4 devices maybe 5 is a port. You left out the roaming indicator. The apns isn't going to do **** when the mnc & mcc numbers are not picked up right hence the 00 when opening the apns via voice dialer. Third cm source was broke till yesterday and has been for a month where apn's wouldn't do you crap any way. Though miui doesn't have the issue as it is being built on a older nightly source code.
So, yeah, not for the faint of heart, but that's what we get for being regional.
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Also since it is clear you don't have a clue about a port. As if you did you would notice more than that is changed. As since miui is built off cm. Cm things will work hence how I port it on the desire and others do on other devices. In turn the rom actually has a good bit from the cm7 rom for the mes in it. The build prop is also not the same and is actually fixed to set up stuff right on default. Along with I think I changed the vmheapsize to be what it should. I fixed the roaming indicator also. It will boot on the mes just sms will not work which I haven't fixed or messed with this since I let gas try it a few days ago.
Also I never claimed it to be a port to the mes. It is to a port and isn't. It is how ever a port of a port of a port from the device the rom is released for.
Now have a nice day
bdemartino said:
How are you doing a "factory reset", through CWM - right?
If you really want to help us figure this out you need to try and debug and pull log's so that we can try and locate the problem - MTD is obvoiusly VERY new so there is no "known" fixes or issues, so it's not going to be easy figuring out the problem.
When you're using odin to go to a FULL STOCK BUILD (meaning one without the added recoveries and root) are you checking the "repartition" box?
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OK, here is exactly what I did....and I know I F'd up...I was on the first test of MIUI and everything was working perfec (what was supposed to be working) it was great, but I was taking a trip...so I flashed the stock EC10 (re-partitioned checked) flashed EC01, OTB kernel, miuiwiz 1.1.1 rom and all the fixins, later that day..or the next?..I was getting some FC errors...so I decided I was going to reset..so I did it from the ROM..(stupid stupid stupid)..not from CWM. When the phone re-booted it went directly to an activation screen and forced me to activate...stupid me I did it with all Verizon rom and radio..when it activated I had COMPLETELY lost 3G, to the point where there was no 3G indicator by the signal...after about a twenty minute curse filled rant, I decided to tryh something, I flashed EC10 again, but this time I also checked the Phone EFS clear box. What this did was remove my Phone number and MIN from the phone (and who knows what else it may have done, I havent been able to find definitive answers on that, well..now with all stock USC I did a *228 and the phone went through its initial provisioning, activated, and bingo...everything was back to normal, 3g was alive and kicking, ...then I went to flash the newest MIUI and started getting the latest 3G problems. I have a 3G indicator, but it never seems to be active (upload/download indicators not flashing), then the 3G indicator will dissappear then reappear, and do this randomly. when I try to use data, it just says that I have no network. However, if I do this same process, mbut instead I flash say MIUIWiz rom, everything still works, 3g and all.
I know that was a leangthy description, and I am sorry, but that is all I can give you right now...the wife is all over me to get back outside and mow the lawn and finish cleaning the pool LOL
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Now have a nice day
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I'm sorry, I haven't actually dl'd this, I was just trying to give some basics as to how to get most, if not all, Fas roms working for us. And for the build.prop, most current aosp roms don't have but four lines concerning Verizon or Fascinate.
Again, I am sorry, I will shut up now.
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OK, here is exactly what I did....and I know I F'd up...I was on the first test of MIUI and everything was working perfec (what was supposed to be working) it was great, but I was taking a trip...so I flashed the stock EC10 (re-partitioned checked) flashed EC01, OTB kernel, miuiwiz 1.1.1 rom and all the fixins, later that day..or the next?..I was getting some FC errors...so I decided I was going to reset..so I did it from the ROM..(stupid stupid stupid)..not from CWM. When the phone re-booted it went directly to an activation screen and forced me to activate...stupid me I did it with all Verizon rom and radio..when it activated I had COMPLETELY lost 3G, to the point where there was no 3G indicator by the signal...after about a twenty minute curse filled rant, I decided to tryh something, I flashed EC10 again, but this time I also checked the Phone EFS clear box. What this did was remove my Phone number and MIN from the phone (and who knows what else it may have done, I havent been able to find definitive answers on that, well..now with all stock USC I did a *228 and the phone went through its initial provisioning, activated, and bingo...everything was back to normal, 3g was alive and kicking, ...then I went to flash the newest MIUI and started getting the latest 3G problems. I have a 3G indicator, but it never seems to be active (upload/download indicators not flashing), then the 3G indicator will dissappear then reappear, and do this randomly. when I try to use data, it just says that I have no network. However, if I do this same process, mbut instead I flash say MIUIWiz rom, everything still works, 3g and all.
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To half of what you did I have no idea what would happen or what it did lol. As for data gas said his doesn't work on any mtd release. Since this uses cm7mtd it also gives the same issue. On my phone if I sit next to the wall facing the hill. I get barely any service and it will do as you are saying. If I move away from the wall it is fine maybe a spaz out here and there.
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I'm sorry, I haven't actually dl'd this, I was just trying to give some basics as to how to get most, if not all, Fas roms working for us. And for the build.prop, most current aosp roms don't have but four lines concerning Verizon or Fascinate.
Again, I am sorry, I will shut up now.
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No you came in here saying this wasn't a port. Where you had no idea what you were talking about clearly. I also never said anything about the build prop in aosp roms. Well nothing like that. I also have yet to see one thing you mentioned yet how do you get sms to work in a fas rom ported to the mes? Besides the radio? You have only said these few things which is half of it. Also nearly word for word from the guide I think gas posted or someone in the fascinate radio thread.
Honestly I have no idea why I am even talking about it besides the fact you made a post claiming out of no where. I didn't post this to have a noob claiming something that I really have no idea why. Though do a little searching the next time on miui and tell me what samsung device it is released for.
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No you came in here saying this wasn't a port. Where you had no idea what you were talking about clearly. I also never said anything about the build prop in aosp roms. Well nothing like that. I also have yet to see one thing you mentioned yet how do you get sms to work in a fas rom ported to the mes? Besides the radio? You have only said these few things which is half of it. Also nearly word for word from the guide I think gas posted or someone in the fascinate radio thread.
Honestly I have no idea why I am even talking about it besides the fact you made a post claiming out of no where. I didn't post this to have a noob claiming something that I really have no idea why. Though do a little searching the next time on miui and tell me what samsung device it is released for.
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Jesus man, smoke some weed and chill out. Yeah the guy was wrong (somewhat) but for crying out loud are you going to turn all of your threads into a pissing match? All we need is Adam back and we have the Phoenix thread all over again.
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Jesus man, smoke some weed and chill out. Yeah the guy was wrong (somewhat) but for crying out loud are you going to turn all of your threads into a pissing match? All we need is Adam back and we have the Phoenix thread all over again.
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You have a lot of room to talk. Last I heard you weren't using anything I do any way so why troll posting and add to the fire? As I didn't see anyone yanking your chain. I didn't start the adam crap to begin with yet you like putting it off as that I did. I also didn't post claiming miui isn't a port for what ever reason that has me baffled.
If you don't have some constructive to say. Then don't post. Along with the fact how would you like it if you actually did something for someone in two threads start claiming **** that isn't true. As it's really starting to get old. Then when someone bashes what you do on top of it. As in if it was that simple why didn't he do it?
Also that is all I got to say in which I said what I wanted to. Now the thread can get back on track.
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You have a lot of room to talk. Last I heard you weren't using anything I do any way so why troll posting and add to the fire? As I didn't see anyone yanking your chain. I didn't start the adam crap to begin with yet you like putting it off as that I did. I also didn't post claiming miui isn't a port for what ever reason that has me baffled.
If you don't have some constructive to say. Then don't post. Along with the fact how would you like it if you actually did something for someone in two threads start claiming **** that isn't true. As it's really starting to get old. Then when someone bashes what you do on top of it. As in if it was that simple why didn't he do it?
Also that is all I got to say in which I said what I wanted to. Now the thread can get back on track.
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LOL point proven. You really need to learn to ignore some things. It's a message board, people are going to say things that may not be accurate. And really at no point did you mention this was a port or give credit to Andmer or any of the Fascinate people that did the MIUI port for the Fascinate. If you didn't get this from them then I really don't know why you spent the time to port this yourself as you are already using their radio. It would have been much easier just to change Andmer's MIUI to work for the Mes. Again man I am not trying to argue with you, I just think it's funny you get so worked up about this stuff. Deep breaths.
S'okay guys, no need to even worry about it. I'll get things taken care of tonight. I won't post more here, this is 2fast's thread, his work.
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LOL point proven. You really need to learn to ignore some things. It's a message board, people are going to say things that may not be accurate. And really at no point did you mention this was a port or give credit to Andmer or any of the Fascinate people that did the MIUI port for the Fascinate. If you didn't get this from them then I really don't know why you spent the time to port this yourself as you are already using their radio. It would have been much easier just to change Andmer's MIUI to work for the Mes. Again man I am not trying to argue with you, I just think it's funny you get so worked up about this stuff. Deep breaths.
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Ok I did this the other day and haven't messed with it much. Not sure I would recommend it for daily use. As landscape, gps and some other minor issues are present. This also isn't for the showcase. This started out as a mix of the Fascinate port/Cm7 Mtd for the mesmerize. Then a mix of miui android. So credit goes to them guys though it has some stuff done by myself
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I've tried to search but I haven't seen anything about this...
I was running a leaked GB a while back, I believe it was 2.3.5, and I was having a TON of issues (phone would shut off randomly, I'd turn it back on to a once full battery completely drained). Anyway, I went back to Froyo to try and just clear everything out and start over, when I noticed that AT&T finally released GB on Infuse?! Only to take it away now that I know about it because of "glitches".
Anyway, there's an OTA update that my phone keeps trying to install... it's 19173KB (19MB?) and I hang around 21-25% every time I try to download it.
Is this Gingerbread? What is it? (I'm clear back on 2.2.1 so who knows)
Can I use the newest GB on here without having the same issues? The poor phone had sooo many problems it was saddening, which is what I'm trying to avoid.
Oh another thought, is the fact that I'm of course rooted keeping me from successfully doing an OTA update?
Its a froyo maintenance update.
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Good to know
I FINALLY have a version of GB that doesn't shut off on me and drain my battery all the time...
But now, after flashing dman's UCLB3, my phone will not read an SD card at all...
I've reformatted them, used different ones... nothing. I got the whole video thing to work though, which is a plus!
Any ideas?
(I'd post this over in that thread, but I don't have 10 posts yet, so I'll just stick to my lil thread over here)
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I FINALLY have a version of GB that doesn't shut off on me and drain my battery all the time...
But now, after flashing dman's UCLB3, my phone will not read an SD card at all...
I've reformatted them, used different ones... nothing. I got the whole video thing to work though, which is a plus!
Any ideas?
(I'd post this over in that thread, but I don't have 10 posts yet, so I'll just stick to my lil thread over here)
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When you flash dman's uclb3, there is a change in the access of the microsd card.
flashing entropy's kernel may fix this
there is also a method to fix this in his thread...myself and others have discussed this...read the main thread..it will show you how to change it.
you can also read the first 10 pages of vagabond..there is a fix there also
Lol thanks, after I posted this and messaged you I started to look around a bit more... the first couple of searches didn't turn it up, but I'm finally finding some info on it.
the things we do to get gb working... sigh
PS - we need more mac friendly stuff! I don't like having to turn on my crazy desktop of doom.
Hi all,
I finally decided to add a custom rom to my SK4G. I had retired it for a year or so, not from getting a new phone, but rather my youngest child dropped it in a mud puddle. I had put it in rice and all that good stuff. I was able to get it to turn back on, but it has very very very low battery. So I put it on the charger, and it would briefly show the charging symbol and disappear. So I had assumed that it was totally shot, And while I was disappointed, because I love this phone, it still was not surprising. I mean it was in a mud puddle right. LoL
Well about 2 weeks ago I got bored, and figured what the smudge, I will ticker with it. I figured, I couldnt do any worse to it than what was already done. So I once again tried to see if it would charge. Tried by wall charger, by car charger, and by USB charging. But alas once again nothing. Well my husband also has a SK4G. So I ganked his battery for a little bit, and lo and behold, it worked. Turned on flawlessly, and not one issue in the operating system at all. Well at least as flawlessly as a stock SK4g could get. lol
So I was thinking maybe the charger slot had shorted out for whatever, from it being in the mud puddle. I put the battery from my SK4G in my husbands phone and agin tried all 3 charging methinds, and still nothing. So I pluged my phone in with his battery and it went to charing just fine. Okay so, new battery. Not that bad, but I dont order anything over the net. I hate waiting, I live in a big enough city, I figured I could go to one of the electronic stores and get one.
So I tried 5 different places, no one had a replacement for it, but once gain I was impatient and didnt want to wait. Did some googling and found out Batteries plus carries a replacement for it. Wasnt thrilled by the fact that they charge 2 to 3 times more for it that other places. But whatever, if it got my phone running again, okay. I had my oldest son pick me up one on his way home from work. Gave him the stock battery numbers and all that. He brings it home, and I go to put it in and..................It is not even close to being a compatible replacement for the samsung battery. Went back down there and returned it. Told the sales clerk that their website was completely wrong. Upon looking through their wall of replacement cell batteries, I did find another battery that was a perfect match. Only to have the "Battery Expert" argue with me about it being the right one. Finally got him to stop running his mouth and bought the battery.
I had just recently ended my contract with t-mobile, and wanted to take my SK4G with me to a new carrier. Well in order to do that, I needed to unlock the network. So it was research time. Googled and found XDA. Which from then on has ben invaluable to the process. Found Sidekick 4G Unlocking *Follow Directions Closely written by troby86 and SuperOneClick - Root/Unroot Your Samsung Sidekick 4G by Ayoteddy .Had a few problems with SOC. It kept freezing at step 7. Took me a few to find the reason why ( answer is in the forums here, just took some digging and reading to find. The culprit was the "Exploit setting needed to be set to "psneuter". Changed that and finshed rooting with out any more problems on that part.
Next had to unlock the network, following the above mentioned thread. Tried it 2 or 3 times to no avail. Then it dawned on me that I hadnt rebooted after I got it rooted. So rebooted and tried the terminal part of it again. And Bingo! It took the commands or whatever you would like to call them. SK4G was now unlocked. Yay!
SInce I had already been in the forum looking at the unlock and root guides. I decided why not go ahead and put a custom rom on it too. I loved my SK I just loathed the software on it. Constantly freezing while surfing the net or trying to use facebook. I spent a bunch of time browsing the forums, reading the comments on all the roms and trying to decide which rom I wanted to use. I had orginally choose CM6-Merged.
So read the thread on it, and even watched a youtube video by sinesolder. The next task was to chase down all the files I needed to install that, plus the CWM stuff too. I flashed CWM using the app "Root Manager" in the play store. Next was to swap out the "recovery" file. Took a few mins to find it, but did. Placed it in the root of the SDcard along with the update zip. Downloaded Astro file manager from the play store. Went to bottem of list and copied the recovery file, then pasted in system/bin folder. Rebooted, clicked reinstall packages on the stock (blue) recovery screen. But it was a no go. it would not give me the orange CWM. It just ket saying E :file invalid, or some such rubbish. So back to combing the forums again. Had stumbled upon a post some where here, that said something about MNT/SDcard. And sure enough, I copied the recovery file from the MNT/SDcard directory, then pasted in the system/bin. Reboot again, reinstall packages and BAM Orange CWM! But before I flashed my first rom, i wanted to get the red CWM/voodoo recovery. That way I didnt have to worry about mounts while flashing. After much reading again in the forum, I found that the red CWM was already included with the Bali Kernal. Reboot again, then install from SDcard, choose Bali Kernal and installed. Woo Hoo red CWM was up and going. phew.... lol or so I thought. Plugged phone in and put CM6 - Merged on the SD. Back to recovery, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Then install from SDcard again, chose CM-6 Merged.
This is where I had a bit of a panic. As I was not paying atternion the what Kernal or Baseband the rom was made to run with. So that ended up soft-bricking my phone. But yet again, XDA to the rescue. Searched it out and found the "ODIN to stock" thread. Just had to track down the right TAR and PIT files. I was orginally on KJ2 stock before I did anything, but I could only find the KD1 TAR. No biggie tho, just used the ODIN to stock method and I was back in business again.
Since I am far from having any real knowledge about roms and their internal workings and what-nots. I went about just trying to find roms that would run off of the Bali Kernal and the KD1 baseband. I did find working links to a few of them, not exactly sure how many, but I had serval choices. I went with GingerClone v.2.
Back to reboot, wipe factory, wipe cache, wipe dalvik. Install from SDcard, chose GingerClone and installed. Booted up and everyhting was all hunky dory again. Ran that rom for a few days. And yes it was a really nice rom, and it was faster than stock. It just was quicte what I was looking for.
Back to looking for ROM files, seeing which links were still good and trying to figure out which one I thought would work best for me. Tried TouchMIUIwiz v3, and again very good rom, but still not quite right. Decided to spend a whole day just comparing roms that would work with Bali and KD1. There are only a few roms that are made with KD1. So I wanted to go back to KJ2. I was thinking the only way I could do that was if I wiped again and the hooked up to Kios (or whatever it is called), But no, I found a working like to a KJ2 file. After another set of wiping in recovery, then Flashed the KJ2, then Flashed Nexus CM. Been messing with in for fwe days, and have to say I really really like this one. It has been smooth as glass and quick as a rabbit. I am thinking as long as I dont run into any major problems or bugs with it, this wil be my daily driver.
But I do have a question, since most of you have been here for awhile, and have been able to try out alot of these roms when they were new. Whick rom, in your own opinion, would make web surfing fast and smooth, and also works awesome with facebook? have already rooted and unlocked my husbands SK4G, but he surfs the web and does his facebooking from his SK, and it loves to freeze up and lag out when using both of those things.
Now that I am at the bottom with this, very sorry if my post seemed to long or anything else. Thanks in advance!
That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
Hope this helps
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That's quite the story there. Crazy to believe it still works.
As for the ROM question, really all of the ROMS for SK4G are outdated. Due to software available. The only ROMS that I would say are up to snuff now are the neXus GB and JB ROMS by RicAndroid. They are chock full of tweaks and scripts. But keep in mind, you're not going to be on the actual newer Android versions. So it may run better, and it may be faster, but only so much.
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I was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be just a battery issue.
Thanks for the answer on the roms. I realized that these are older roms now, and its not the most crrrent version of android and all that, and I am totally fine with it. I am just looking for something that is better, smoother and faster than the stock stuff on the phone, for my husband. He still uses his SK4G as well. In fact I dont think I could get him to upgrade to a new smartphone phone/ android device anyways. So I was just looking for something to stop his constant frezzing issue while he is web surfing and things like that. You were very helpful tho, so thanks a bunch.
I agree with Zydrate_Blue; the Nexus JB ROM is about as good as it gets with this phone.
Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
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Thanks guys! I will have to d/l and flash it.
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For a smoother internet interface. Get yourself NakedBrowser. They've got a free version that works just lovely. I haven't tried the paid version myself, but if may very well be worth it for someone who uses it a lot!
I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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I followed the method to apply this update to my device when it first came out. I ran it for a few days and HATED it. So I restored back to 4.4.2 from my nandroid and all was well, except for the nag that wouldn't go away. I dealt with it for as long as I could before I had to get rid of it. I followed instructions on deleting the update file and renaming something else and then installed Autorun Manager from Play Store and made sure that com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver was un-checked (which strangely it already was). I rebooted my phone, and the nag was gone so I thought I was in the clear.
Well this AM I take my phone off the pad, and the battery is at 60% which is quite odd for a phone that's been charging for 9 hours, and I see that my data limit setting has been tripped! This thing used like 2 gigs of data in the background under Google Services OVERNIGHT!!! This is ridiculous! This is Android, for crying out loud... I shouldn't be forced to use an update that I didn't like! Or have to install a custom ROM for that matter, which I used to do on my phones (I loved cyanogenmod) but with GravityBox I've been able to do everything I needed to do with the stock ROM. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, however suggesting that I disable background data for Google Services will be unacceptable considering it will break a bunch of other stuff. There's got to be a way around this. Thanks in advance!!!
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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Out of curiosity what did you hate about 4.4.3? From a UI/UX standpoint, not much changed.
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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IDK if it was app incompatibilities, but I had TERRIBLE battery life and constant reboots. My device rebooted at least twice an hour. It was basically unusable. I'm no stranger to these devices and messing around with them, so I'm pretty sure it's not something I did. Normally I like to have the latest and greatest, and visually I did like the little changes. But I couldn't live with it, and I don't feel that Google should be able to nag me to upgrade and then obliterate my data allotment when I take steps to override it. Am I wrong?
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Wow that's pretty unusual... As someone who's rooted I understand how much of a pain in the ass OTAs can be, since you liked some of the changes the update brought I think you should give it another shot, though - this time by heading over to the Android Development section, finding a flashable zip of Stock ROM doing a clean install. Don't forget to make a nandroid backup though!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Maybe a good idea... when I did my upgrade, I don't think anyone had made a flashable zip of 4.4.3 yet. I guess I could give it a shot!
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
Another way would be to download the 4.4.3 factory images and flash system, radio, boot. The random reboots will surely stop. I've not yet seen any app which is compatible with 4.4.2 and isn't with .3
PS: While changing android versions, I always prefer to clean install.
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Give it a shot, there are tons of zips now, just a matter of choice. Plus if anything goes wrong, you have a backup.
btw - I'm giving you this advice because I was in a similar position when the update rolled out. I didn't want to update right away because of possible bugs. After a week if nags I flashed a zip someone put together and things have been fine since.
Either way, let me know how it goes!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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Welp, I just clean-flashed the de-odexed 4.4.3 and everything is okay, so far. My device was nearly dead <20% by the time I was done flashing, so I'm gonna let it spend some time on the pad and then see if I have any issues. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
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I have 'em crossed tight! I hope everything works out. If you encounter any problems don't hesitate to report back here.
JT