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G Tablet coming tomorrow...would like to get some things set straight. Thanks.

Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.

Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...

"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.

Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.

I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.

Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update

hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..

dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.

hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning

I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!

hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing

I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...

Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.

ima_UNC_fan said:
...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will

I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.

Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom

A newbie's story after official Froyo update (my solutions included)

So, I've been ready to throw the Captivate away.
When I originally rooted and loaded Cognition 3.04 (Eclair based), everything worked like a charm. I used it for quite some time and was totally happy. For some reason that escapes me now, I decided to flash back to stock. And there is where my trouble began.
I used the Odin one-click that has the official 2.1 image included (file name I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0). That worked OK, but it seems to have disabled my 3 finger salute to recovery mode. This is on a batch 1009 phone.
I stayed with that for a while, and then the official AT&T Froyo came out. Oh my - what a piece of crap that is. I had lags, GPS problems, battery drain, and more.
So, I decided to move to Cognition 4.1.1. The first problem I ran into was rooting. With recovery mode effectively disabled, I ended up using the GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models file. So, I was rooted.
So I'm thinking load ROM Manager and I'm good to go. Wrong. Seems there is a new version of the boot loader in Froyo that requires ROMs to be signed. Cognition isn't, so it wouldn't load. Various places mention how you can change various things to make the bootloader version 3e look like 2e (which doesn't require signature and is standard on Eclair). None of those worked for me and ended up bricking my phone (AT&T white boot screen hang) from screwing around with system files. Word of advice - know well what you're doing before you patch individual files in ANY operating system.
As luck would have it, I ordered the $10 JiG from Josh over at MobileTechVideos (and boy did it get here fast - we're only about 2 hours away from each other). The JiG got me back to Download mode, so I once again used the one click Odin (see above) to reload Eclair.
With Eclair loaded, I again used the one click root (see above), loaded ROM Manager and proceeded to flash Cognition - or so I thought. Minor detail - CWM wasn't loaded so the installation failed with the error Installation aborted. I used ROM Manager to load CWM. Then I used ROM Manager to load Cognition. Since I dropped back to Eclair, I didn't have to worry about the 2e/3e/signed bootloader issue.
As Cognition 4.1.1 loaded I took notes on what I was seeing. It took longer than I remembered (but then again I was very eager to see this finally work). It did the backup, formatting, installing, and there was a funky message that was hard to read that showed up on a black screen which said "Don't turn off system." After a brief time, the phone rebooted. The white screen came back and stayed on. I'm thinking - great - not again. But as I was waiting, I could hear the phone talking to me (sounding alot like Rosie from the Jetsons) saying something about partition, backup, and 2 minutes ETA). That was a very reassuring message to know I wasn't again bricked.
After a bit, the Galaxy S screen came on. It was on long enough to make me think it was hanging again. I waited it out, and soon thereafter the phone came up.
Cognition 4.1.1 is finally loaded. Now to play with it.
I hope someone finds this story useful. In other words, don't do what I did. But if you do, follow my steps and you should be fine.
In summary:
1 - Flash to stock Eclair
2 - Root
3 - Load ROM Manager from Android Market
4 - Load CWM from ROM Manager
5 - Copy the ROM on to the root of the internal SD card
6 - Use ROM Manager to load the ROM
7 - Wait patiently while it does its thing

Good story...could have done away with some of that worry by reading about the long 1st boot boot times and the VooDoo voices, but your story is the same as lots of people...First time is always a rush and a worry, but glad to see yours worked out, and hopefully people will read your post and then read a lot of the others on here to avoid some of the worry! thanks for the post!

Yeah - that was kinda the point. I've been on the 'net since the late 80s (Ok, so I'm old), so I'm steeped in the "read first ask later" mentality. The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
I just hoped to have enough search keywords in here that someone can find my story and maybe save themselves alot of reading
One word of advice to anyone playing around with root and CFW: $10 isn't alot to pay for insurance that you don't brick your phone. In other words, buy the JiG and be done with it. It really saved my a$$ this time.

thehobster said:
The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
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You are so correct. That's my only complaint about this forum. Since I've been here, I've learned a lot, but as far as the basic why and how stuff, it's buried amongst umpteen pages. Somewhere it would be nice to have the latest, greatest methods listed without tons of pages of follow-ups which also add the latest, greatest info. Who has time to dig through it all? Not me, which is why my phone is still stock, non-rooted, and non lagfixed.

kb0npw said:
You are so correct. That's my only complaint about this forum. Since I've been here, I've learned a lot, but as far as the basic why and how stuff, it's buried amongst umpteen pages. Somewhere it would be nice to have the latest, greatest methods listed without tons of pages of follow-ups which also add the latest, greatest info. Who has time to dig through it all? Not me, which is why my phone is still stock, non-rooted, and non lagfixed.
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I wonder if any thought has been given to keeping moderated forums for just this sort of thing? Admins could maintain current data from the threads in all the other forums in the form of basic posts or stickies.
Of course, that would be alot of work for someone...
BTW - after Cognition 4.1.1, I'm loving the phone. Battery drain is gone and lags are gone. I haven't tested the GPS much, but I'm assuming the problems are more hardware than software (which no amount of CFW can fix).

You know all this your not a newbie. I read your post took me 3 days to install 2.2 froyo no pc (mac). I had to do it at work. My first time on this site and 99% of this seems like LATIN to me.

If ur a newb and you haven't watched connexion's videos, DO IT! they're great. I've flashed a couple different ROMs now and feel pretty comfortable with the process. And stay away from official froyo!
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I ran into similar problems with my phone when flashing. I am running official 2.2 rom with CWM recovery, SuckerPunch #53 Kernel, lagfix installed, and I900 UCGJ2 modem. When I first tried to flash CWM, I kept getting the package unsigned error. So I downloaded the cracked 3e recovery without sign check. I followed the instructions on that post to a tee, rebooted, and hung at white att screen when boot into recovery. To get past this, I removed battery, reinstalled and rebooted. Still stuck at att white screen. Upon hooking back to computer, I ran adb devices command and saw my phone was still in recovery mode. So I typed adb reboot, and my phone came back on. After an hour of having similar results, I finally got the 3e unsigned recovery to work by following these steps:
1. Download recovery file to adb directory on computer
2. Adb push recovery /data/local/tmp
3. Using root explorer, remount /system as rw.
4. Adb shell
5. Chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/recovery
6. Cp /data/local/tmp/recovery /system/bin
7. Chmod 777 /system/bin/recovery
8. Exit from adb shell
9. Unhook from computer
10. Reboot phone.
11. Power phone off.
12. Reboot into recovery by using three button method.
This worked for me, and I had to mess around for an hour to figure it all out. I agree that a centralized location for instructions and information would be wonderful! Would save a lot if headaches, especially for people like me. I am new to smartphones, and I have only had my captivate since mid february. Thus was my first time flashing, and while I am very computer literate and am a self taught programmer, I have no experience in mobile phones. Luckily, android is based on linux, which I am well versed in. I hope this helps someone.
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Omg gmab aufkm
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I just flashed from Cog 3.1 to Cog 4 too. I love it. Unbelievable what these phones are actually capable of.

TommyZee said:
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+1 is exactly what I was thinking when it first hung at att boot logo! I know the method I used is a pain, but it worked for me.
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Forgive the off topic..it relates! (some of it anyway)
thehobster said:
Yeah - that was kinda the point. I've been on the 'net since the late 80s (Ok, so I'm old), so I'm steeped in the "read first ask later" mentality. The problem here is that when I find an interesting post that may relate, it's 150+ pages long. And on page 187 someone says "Yes, didn't you read that 47 pages back?"
Did I make it to page 187? Did I miss the significance 47 pages back? Maybe & probably not.
I just hoped to have enough search keywords in here that someone can find my story and maybe save themselves alot of reading
One word of advice to anyone playing around with root and CFW: $10 isn't alot to pay for insurance that you don't brick your phone. In other words, buy the JiG and be done with it. It really saved my a$$ this time.
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I hear ya! Been there many times since my first PC, lol Break it then learn how to fix it instead of learning how to use it first! My first PC was an 8088 cpu with very little ram and only a 5 1/4 floppy drive...but I loved it! got a ram update to 512, then a 300 baud modem...then I got a 40 megabyte Hard Drive, I thought WOW, I will NEVER fill this thing up...lol and a cga monitor...I was king of the hill back then...ran a BBS for a few years...fun times...

My steps to flash a new ROM:
1 - download desired ROM
2 - place ROM on phone
3 - place cwm update.zip in root of internal SD card
4 - power off
5 - download mode
6 - stock eclair Odin
7 - after booted, reboot into recovery
8 - install update
9 - use cwm to install desired ROM
10 - enjoy
You don't have to root, or use ROM manager. Occasionally I toss in a master clear, but not every time. I do however delete every folder on the SD card except my media, ROMs and cwm update.zip.
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[Q] Samsung Captivate-advice buying used

Hi all,
I'm looking for a Samsung Captivate, and i saw one online for $100, but the phone won't start. From what the seller said, it was rooted, and it'll boot up, but the phone then states something to the effect that "the launcher is not responding". My question is this: I don't have experience with Android phones, but does this sound like something that can be fixed using software methods?
I'm experienced with iPhone jailbreaking and WP7 hacking, so I'm not afraid of the challenge, i just want to know if there's a good chance of reviving the phone (assuming there's no physical/water damage)
Thanks in advance!

Launcher issues are easy to fix, fixed even easier with a factory reset which I assume you will do if the seller hasn't. If it's been factory reset and it's giving those issues....well I can only see that happening if there is a custom ROM loaded.
Either way, if you believe it boots, I would buy it. The launcher is basically your home screen, and if the phone can load that far, that's all software level stuff, easy to fix. I own a captivate and I always liked the phone, but rooted and ROM'd it is SO much better. Hope this helped

Hey, thanks so much for the reply! I'll see about piking it up today and let you know what happens
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No problem man, if you need help when you get back with it let me know. I'll be glad to help with whatever

So i got the phone today. The phone was pretty laggy, so i used the Odin3 one click sw to bring it back to stock. It worked, but the phone is still laggy. Wouldn't you think that flashing it back to stock would fix any issues with it? I tried it twice.
Also, when i try to open the applications section, it tells me that "TWLauncher is not responding", even after flashing it. I was thinking about just flashing it to CM7, but i have to get the .zip file onto an sd card so i can flash it from recovery. Do you think this might help? Thanks in advance!

Honestly man, my captivate was just like that (laggy), TWLauncher is the UI launcher, TouchWiz. There are thing's about it liked but mostly I hated it. I would root and ROM the phone with something stable (I run CM7, there is finally an RC for captivate). Also, Odin puts the phone back to 2.1, and there was all kinds of GPS bugs and stuff with it, they have 2.2 stock for it now, which runs a bit better but I still don't like.
Also, try removing the SD Card from the phone, in case it's a ****ty one and causing lag while loading in the beginning. That may not help at all, I'm no expert, but I am a huge nerd and it makes sense to me. Just realize the stock firmware on the phone ruins the experience a bit.
Edit: I didn't notice the CM7 part, just make sure the zip is in your main directory, don't put it on either of the SD cards (internal or external).

So the .zip actually goes onto the phone memory itself? That makes sense. I'm having issues getting my phone to mount and the computer to recognize it. My computer doesn't see it as an external drive. I'd try to go to the settings and change it to mass storage, but the stupid TWLauncher isn't working!

Can you load the android market? Try to get ADWLauncher, the free one. Get that installed, and when you push the home button it should ask you which launcher to use. Choose ADWLauncher, possibly reboot, and try again. Again, I hate TWLauncher, it was the first thing I replaced on my phone.
edit: lol, don't forget to hit "use as default" before you select ADWLauncher.
edit again: Dammit, I'm terrible at this...if you can't get android market open, make sure your phone stays on, go to the android market website, and install it from there. That should work for sure

Ok, so I used Odin3 one click version 2.2 (which has froyo and the JI6 build number. Everything works fine, but I'm not able to get out of airplane mode and get cell signal. the phone says the baseband version is unknown. If i use the Odin3 One click 2.1 (build JF6, the phone is in the same unresponsive state it was when i first got it. It doesn't even take me to the setup when you first launch the phone.
It's really weird. I wonder if there's was a way to flash it back to stock without one click. I'm wondering if the ROM in there is corrupt or something. The reason why i want to get back to Android2.1 is because all the CM7 tutorials say to start from there. So yeah. Any other suggestions?
Oh, i got rid of TWLauncher, and yeah. I hate that thing!

Well...the Odin I used took my phone back to base stock 2.1, after I was already on 2.2, you 2.2 has this sig verification crap and you can't flash anything. So I'm not sure which Odin I have, but it took it to 2.1, I imagine yours should too... This problem may need someone smarter... So make sure the Odin you are using is meant to take you to 2.1, make sure it specifically says it's for captivate. If both of those are verified, odin isn't working for some reason. Did you follow the Odin guide for captivate to make sure you didn't miss anything?

Well, i found a random thread on the CM7 forums that said to try using Odin regular, and flashing the original firmware. So i did that and it worked! The phone was usable again! Only thing was that i didn't have any cell service. So i flashed the CM7 ROM and the baseband was fixed. All is well, and i'm loving my device. Thanks so much for your help!

Woot! Man I'm super glad you got all that working, I had to return a Captivate due to no service...so I'm glad CM7 fixed that for you. Super awesome that it's working, glad I could help bro. Enjoy!

[Q] I need help.

Today, I acquired a infuse 4g, off contract. I wanted to mess around with android, as my current phone is an iphone, and maybe switch over.
One of the first things I tried to do was tether my iphone to my infuse using mywi. I soon discovered android doesn't work with ad hoc networks. I googled a couple fixes, and decided to try my hand. I have never touched android before. I found this thing that said I could. So I went for it. After reading a few guides, I decided the first step was to root it using superoneclick. That went fine. Then, I read the instructions and it told me to 'flash the zip file using a recovery rom' which was total gibberish to me. So I did some more googling and found a modified 3e recovery thing for the infuse. I used some file system app to put that where it was supposed to be, but then saw that I needed clockworkmod to be able to flash things. By this point I realized I was far, far over my head, but stupidly pressed on. At about the same time, I also extracted the zip file from exop.pro, and replaced the wpa file that existed already in system/bin with the one from the zip. I also booted into recovery mode, and tried to install clockwork mod, which failed even though as far as I can see. Now, when I turn my phone on, everything is ok except that it can't scan for wifi. I assume this is because I ****ed with the wifi file. I've basically decided to give up at this point, so please, just tell me how to made it work again and I'll promise to not **** with it anymore. Also, I neglected to make a backup. Stupid, but I didn't know how and didn't want to go through another huge thing.
tl;dr
I tried to make it so I could connect to ad hoc networks on my infuse 4g and ended up destroying my wda_supplicant file in system/bin (i think) and

Google the original file you replaced, ' wpa supplicant file download for infuse 4g'. Next time save a copy or backup of whatever your doing.

Thanks, but I really have no idea what is what. Could you link me the right one? I'm sorry that I'm so useless.

Itaer said:
Thanks, but I really have no idea what is what. Could you link me the right one? I'm sorry that I'm so useless.
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this was your problem the first time... you need to read and study before you just start flashing things to your phone man. haha... us linking you somewhere will not help you figure that part out... and its an important part of tinkering with these phones in the way you are trying to.
rid yourself of the apple mentality where everything is spoon fed.
moving on, however, do what the guy previous to me said... find that file you downloaded. and do some reading, watch some instructional videos, focus on just rooting the phone properly for now. do that, then read, watch, ask questions like you are doing when you need to, then proceed.
read comments and stuff in forums about the ROMs you are flashing, what kind of problems do they have, what recovery is recommended for that particular ROM, stuff like that. just READ everything and anything you can about what you are doing....
the company that made your newly found OS has a nice little search engine called google... and it works pretty well if you know how to use it i'll keep an eye on this thread for you as others are probably doing so we can provide you with whatever answers you might need. good luck!
a good rule of thumb when flashing hax0red software to these phones is when something ****s up, 9/10 times it's just a little tiny thing you missed or did during the install yourself... so back to square one, and pay close attention to detail. these phones can be a little touchy when flashing ROMs if you are not doing it exactly they way it is recommended.
perfect example of this: when i had my samsung moment... when i converted from 2.1 OS to 2.2... for some odd reason i would ALWAYS have to flash a little script zip to wipe the 2.1 data from the device before flashing the 2.2 zipped ROM to the phone... the 2.2 ROM was supposed to do this and take care of it completely for me, but even though it did, the only way it would work properly every time i was going from 2.1 to 2.2 was to flash that zip beforehand...
hope that long rant provided some useful insight

Thanks.
But I have read the instructions on the stuff I'm trying to do, several times, and like I said, I'm more confused that I was at first.
I'm just not willing to break it any further.
So basically what I'm wondering now is, how do I put everything back to how it should be. Is there a way? Like, is there a way to load the original software back? I don't think restoring it to factory settings would fix what I did, but tell me if I'm wrong.
I just want everything back to normal.
Please.
Edit: I know it seems like I'm not doing anything to help myself, but I have a lot on my plate in life right now, and I also have absolutely no idea where to even start. Half of the terms you use mean nothing to me, and I'm just so overwhelmed.
I just want to know if there is some way to put it back to how it came out of the box.

Turns out that once the new wda_supplicant thing is ACTUALLY GRANTED PERMISSION TO EXECUTE, that everything works fine. Thanks guys

see... Knew you would figure it out man
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[Q] Back to Stock

Please forgive me, as I have not searched the forum extensively for an answer, but I'm in a bit of a time crunch as I am leaving on a trip tonight and need to get back to some semblance of a working phone.
Some time ago I flashed some rom (I think Paranoid Android; I don't remember. I liked it enough to keep it, then I didn't worry about it again after that.) Little by little it started getting slower and buggier, but for the most part it worked fine, so I ignored it. For the last couple of weeks it started losing signal and data constantly, with no change to the phone. I kind of just lived with it because I could usually restart my phone and I would regain signal, but as of a couple of days ago, it would just drop off and not come back until it wants to.
I had the day off to prepare for my trip, so I decided I would try to go back to stock; there's almost nothing that I do that requires a custom ROM and I had no data issues on stock, nor does my wife on her Note. I looked around for a bit for instructions to restore my phone, and found some, but out of the handful of pages I went to, each one had at least one link that was dead, rendering the method useless, to me, a layman, at least.
I then decided I would just find a Stock Rom, thinking that might be the next best thing. I found Clean Rom on here and decided to try to flash that. I made a backup of my system, wiped everything, and then flashed it. Except something is wrong with the zip and keeps giving me an error message. I then tried to restore my back up that I had just made to try something else, but something happened to that, and it also wouldn't open. I tried the backup before then (quite old, as I haven't done any tinkering with my phone for quite some time) and it worked, but it tells me that my sim card is disconnected, so I have no data or signal. As it is an old restore, I'm not sure what the name of the ROM is, but I can provide all of the information needed, if someone needs that to figure it out.
Anyway, long story slightly shorter: I need to fix this today, and like as soon as possible. I will give ten dollars, count them TEN DOLLARS, to the first person who can provide a set of working links and very straightforward instructions as to how to get back to stock (or if there is a good working ROM that will give me FULL functionality with no flares that would be easier to do. Easy and fast are the key components to this request). I'm not dumb, but I am no longer immersed in the lingo of this community, as it has been a few phones back that I really cared about actually experimenting much with my phone, so non-technical language would be nice. I know what flashing and wiping means. Most of the rest, probably assume I don't.
Thanks.

Your best (easiest) option is probably to flash another stock ROM, or stock-ish ROM. There are quite a few options in the Android Development section. There are a couple of stock rooted at&t ROMs in the first couple pages, also a stock rooted Telstra ROM.
You didn't mention which carrier you're with, whether your phone is branded, or any of your important details, like your firmware/hboot details and whether you're s-on or not. If you wanted to go back to completely stock, I'd need to know those details. Going completely stock can/will be a longer process though.
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Okay, I'll try another one. I'm not sure why Clean Rom didn't work, but if another one or two don't work I'll come back here and I'll have you talk me through getting back to stock and I'll throw you a digital Hamilton.
Thanks.

Well, I tried another couple of ROMs. They installed correctly, but it says that I have no sim card, so I still have no signal. Maybe I some how deleted my radio when I did a system wipe while trying to install one of the ROMs? I'm not sure.
Anyway, for "more details" I'm on AT&T, I'm not sure what you mean by branded, but it's the HTC One X, the current ROM is 4.1.1. I haven't done S-On/S-Off, or anything like that other than unlocking the bootloader a long time ago. The kernel version says 304010-g240d4d5, the baseban version is 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L The Build number is 3.17.707.1 CL134054 release-keys.
I'm not sure which of that information is relevant or not, but that's everything I can tell you.

Never mind that last post. When I said in the first post that I'm not dumb, apparently I lied. My phone fell off a table this morning, and I guess it knocked the sim card loose, but it coincided with doing the factory reset stuff, so I thought they were connected. I pushed it back in, restarted, and now the stock ROM I'm using works great.
Thanks/Sorry!

Well, it turned out to be an easy solution (Occam's Razor FTW yet again).
But this thread made me think . . . why the heck does it seem so many people lately flash ROMs without doing a nandroid first? Its a no brainer to me. If you are trying new ROMs, and not sure how they will perform, why would you not give yourself an easy way to simply revert to your last known good config?

I couldn't agree more, but there's plenty of not-so-smart practices on here, so I'm not at all surprised.
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Yea. Nandroid ftw
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