Just saw the New Sense 3.0 on the newly announced Sensation. Will our Desire S going to have a taste of that new UI?
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It depends on how the hardware can cope with the new sense. Probably, but not likely
So indeed the answer is no... Have a look at engadget website (I am not allowed to post links yet...)
"HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices, older hardware left behind"
Okay, I've already read the article. But what would be Android's next version? Will it have hardware specifics too?
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Okay, I've already read the article. But what would be Android's next version? Will it have hardware specifics too?
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The Desire S has 2.3.3 Gingerbread, which is currently the latest version of Android for phones. As for Ice Cream (of unknown numbering), there's no telling what hardware requirements Google may impose, so we won't know if Ice Cream will make its way to the Desire models.
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So indeed the answer is no... Have a look at engadget website (I am not allowed to post links yet...)
"HTC Sense 3.0 will only support Sensation, EVO 3D, Flyer and newer devices, older hardware left behind"
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That's not entirely true. In their first tweet, which everyone is quite well aware of, HTC said that Sense 3.0 won't be supported on their older models (including the Desire S) due to the limitations of their older hardware.
However, in a later tweet, which many people may have overlooked, they mentioned that while they can't port the whole Sense 3.0, they have been trying to port other improvements that aren't so performance-dependent to the older models.
As a result, while older hardware may not be able to run Sense 3.0 to the satisfaction of their QA division, there are other features that can be brought in. In fact, from the leaked HTC Desire Gingerbread ROM, we know that HTC is trying to bring, amongst other things, the very useful Fast Boot feature to the old HTC Desire. Fast Boot does not eat up additional CPU cycles or occupy extra RAM in order to realise its benefits, so it is an ideal candidate for them to bring to their older models without hampering their performance.
Lastly, if it helps you sleep better, rest assured that the developers at xda are working hard at porting the inevitable leaked ROMs to the old models, though the quality of the experience is anyone's guess.
The guys in the desire hd forum have a leaked sense 3.0 rom....stumbling block seems to be the screen resolution.
Im sure sense 3.0 will be unofficially supported on most of the 2010/2011 htc devices
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Whether it gets it officially is one question.
But this article shows that people are already trying Custom ROMS on the Desire HD with it.....so once our device is unlocked/rooted it will only be a matter of time
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/desire-hd-gets-the-first-ever-pyramid-port-yes-sense-3-0-too/
the hd2 with old outdated hardware even got the port. so clearly htc is lying abt compatability. they just want the new sense on their latest flagship phones so ppl will buy it.
The reason for haddware capability is that the sense takes up 3gb storage, the sensation has 4gb rom, but 1gb accessible; the 3gb is used up by the rom + sense
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the hd2 with old outdated hardware even got the port. so clearly htc is lying abt compatability. they just want the new sense on their latest flagship phones so ppl will buy it.
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This has been discussed ad nauseum on xda, but it always bears repeating to note that the HD2 is anything but outdated. A 1 GHz single-core processor and 512 MB RAM is a very common spec in the current range of phones. By the same yardstick, we would be calling the Galaxy S and HTC Desire 'outdated' as well.
I won't discount the possibility that they're doing this to increase the appeal of the Sensation, but let's keep in mind that Sense 3.0 has only some incremental updates. People won't go for the Sensation just for some cool 3D animations and a fancy lockscreen, and for the same reasons, a lot of us won't miss it too. Besides, they do need some differentiating factor for their flagship model that takes advantage of its hardware.
well the reason i consider the hd2 outdated hardware is that it has the 1st gen cpu snapdgragon, which has been suceeded by the mich more powerful effiecitne 2nd gen. S if htc ae limiting the update on the dhd for
'a weak hardware'(2nd gen cpu) than the hd2 (1st gen) gets the update working smooth
so clearly it isnt much of a hardware requirement!
I agree with you. There's nothing to stop us from running Sense 3.0 on our current phones, but to my knowledge, the Sense 3.0 port isn't always that smooth on the DHD, let alone the HD2. The obvious problems with screen resolution aside, it's true that it's working so far, but such tests have so far been done at a low level of activity (fresh boot), and without all the cached programs and background processes one would expect in a typical Android phone that is used on a daily basis. When you start factoring in the demands of placed upon a phone to complete everyday tasks, lags and other issues will start cropping up, especially with an interface as heavy as Sense 3.0.
I mean, you could run AutoCAD on your home desktop now, and it might even work with something simple like drawing a rectangle, but that doesn't mean it'll continue to work so smoothly when you're using it for a normal workload, like designing an automobile. Sounds somewhat exaggerated, I know, but hardware does matter where a smooth user experience is concerned.
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I agree with you. There's nothing to stop us from running Sense 3.0 on our current phones, but to my knowledge, the Sense 3.0 port isn't always that smooth on the DHD, let alone the HD2. The obvious problems with screen resolution aside, it's true that it's working so far, but such tests have so far been done at a low level of activity (fresh boot), and without all the cached programs and background processes one would expect in a typical Android phone that is used on a daily basis. When you start factoring in the demands of placed upon a phone to complete everyday tasks, lags and other issues will start cropping up, especially with an interface as heavy as Sense 3.0.
I mean, you could run AutoCAD on your home desktop now, and it might even work with something simple like drawing a rectangle, but that doesn't mean it'll continue to work so smoothly when you're using it for a normal workload, like designing an automobile. Sounds somewhat exaggerated, I know, but hardware does matter where a smooth user experience is concerned.
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good point. anyway, at the end of the day, it really depends what the user prefers; the latest best software to compromise for a slower, slightly laggy phone, or for the official updates.
IMO, i will be quite happy with what htc have to bring to the Desire S (their version of 3.0) I'm not to bothered about the fancy 3d spinning cubes, but i'd like the new lockscreen, and weather widgets (we should hopefully get the new weather thing as the WP7 HD7has it on a single core 1st Gen Snapdragon CPU)
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good point. anyway, at the end of the day, it really depends what the user prefers; the latest best software to compromise for a slower, slightly laggy phone, or for the official updates.
IMO, i will be quite happy with what htc have to bring to the Desire S (their version of 3.0) I'm not to bothered about the fancy 3d spinning cubes, but i'd like the new lockscreen, and weather widgets (we should hopefully get the new weather thing as the WP7 HD7has it on a single core 1st Gen Snapdragon CPU)
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Definitely. That's why we love xda. There's just so much choice and freedom to do what we want to our phone that suits our tastes. I hope the devs here manage to hack Sense 3.0 so that everyone can flash it to enjoy. I, on the other hand, have to be content with what Samsung gives me. Cheers.
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Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
I have chosen to go with HTC because of their Sense UI - no other manufacturer appears to have developed anything than can compete with this.
The only thing delaying this switch is my failure to yet decide which handset to go with.
I am looking for a top end device so the front runners at the moment are the Desire and Desire HD
Specification wise the Desire HD handset gets the win but this device isn't quite as portable as the original Desire and it appears to be agreed across the board that the HD's battery life isn't the best having only been afforded 1230 mAh whilst the original Desire has 1400 mAh, despite the HD having the larger screen and more processing power.
So its a toss up between the two, and I really am stuck.
I'd welcome any advice to help my decision or more importantly, bearing in mind the HD has been out for almost 4 months, surely there is a top end HTC Android device in the pipeline due for release in the very near future??
I have seen mention of Android 2.4 and 3.0 in other threads...has anyone come across mention of HTC releasing a handset this spring that will be running the new Android platform??
Well,you can expect them to announce the Desire HD2,aka Pyramid,at the MWC,but release date will probably be later on,most likely April or something.Right now,if you want a compromise between the DHD and the classical Desire(I have both and I can tell you the DHD is far superior performance wise,and battery isn't bad at all as second generation Snapdragons are much less power hungry) the Desire Z might be a good choice for you.Don't let the 800MHz processor fool you;it's as much a beast as the DHD is!Unless you can't put up with the hardware keyboard!
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Very shortly I will be binning my iPhone and purchasing a HTC device running Android.
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Good on you!
As for the battery life for Desire HD, it's not bad. I charge every night if I used the phone heavily through the day. For it's screen size battery is reasonable and I find phone very easy to carry around, it's quite slick.
New phones are just around the corner and I can't honestly say if right NOW is the best time to buy a new phone, especially such a expensive phone. If you don't mind then the Desire HD is one heck of a beast!
But these new phones will probably cost close to a grand, for that much you can build yourself a i7/i5 machine lol.
Yeah I've just read a few articles about HTC announcing the Desire 2 and Desire HD 2. Apparently both will be announced at the MWC tomorrow!!!
So you'd expect these new devices to hit UK shores around about April? I'll definitely wait until then for either the D2 or DHD2 although expect I'll have to fork out quite a bit for one of these sim-free!?!?
Looking forward to some HTC news following the MWC tomorrow!!
Smart move...HTC Rocks!
Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported functionally). All Android apps work on meego using JVM.
+ There are hidden powers in both the DHD and especially Z that is being wasted by 1) Android (whole os implementation, especially the lousy dalvik VM) 2) I have been told Z and DHD have essentially the same chip, the 200mhz difference is mainly market differentiation justifying DHD as the flagship even when lacking qwerty and not gaining much/any advantage from the bigger display since the resolution is the same. Quite the opposite, it makes it bulky and drains more battery... IMO the Z is the flagship model of the current gen and it has been clocked up to ~1,4 ghz stable that i know of)
I for one cannot wait to get Meego running on my Z and unleash the potential of the hardware.
(My advice is forget the old desire and since the next gens being announced don't seem to have a qwerty version go for the Z. It will be on sale or found cheap 2nd hand due to the new ones coming. (you must be a bit of a tech-geek since you are on these forums so you probably will come to appreciate the qwerty even if you don't realize it yet. Some linux desktop version + qwerty almost a laptop makes
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Just make sure it is Flashable (at least samsung has plans for signed bootloaders preventing custom firmware updates, so make sure your open platform really is open) Desire, Desire Z and DHD are, Desire2 or DHD2 i don't know but one could assume they are also. HTC would not do something as Apple-ish as this, would they?
The reason for this is that while android is the top system for now and sense is indeed great - but check my thread in general discussion - a possible announcement date for Meego, and you probably want to be able to flash to it once released (and ported). I for one cannot wait to get it on my Desire Z. Android is kinda messy from a technical POW and sub-optimal in performance.
(What ever you choose, do not let the desire z 800 mhz fool you to think its slower compared to DHD. I am told they have essentially the same chip, and is only market segmentation - The desire Z has been clocked to some 1,516 ghz stable...)
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OP good move on making the switch to Android, specifically a HTC device.
So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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So I'm hoping for some big news from HTC at the MWC regarding the Desire 2 and/or Desire 2 HD....
I am in the UK so despite there being rumour of the 'Pyramid' seeing an April/May release in the US I am concerned that we will be waiting several months more to see any of these new top end HTC Android handsets over the pond here in the UK.
Any views on this? Or any idea on the wait we might have in UK to see these handsets?
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
Congratulations, I think the Desire HD looks like a pretty awesome phone. Wish I would have waited a few months before buying the Desire to get the Desire HD.
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We seem to get the new HTC phones sooner in the UK than they do in the US so don't worry. More often than not we'll see the original (like the DHD), and then later they get a variety of carrier specific derivitaves like the Inspire 4G.
Personally i'm more interested to see where the Nexus line goes for it's next incarnation. Hopefully back to HTC with a killer Nexus 3
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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With regards to the 4G, I've heard there is very little support for this in the UK?
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NO support as yet. I've heard that some European countries have trials under way though.
Desire HD is cool, possibly a little on the big side coming from an iPhone, but you will soon get used to it. I find occasionally being used to the iPhone I have a bad habit of touching the sides of the screen and activating an app I had no intention of opening. But like I said you get used to it.
I also found that the voice quality of calls is higher than my 3gs used to be, and I have had some trouble getting used to the fact that up until I start to drop calls from bad signal the only loss of voice I get is a small crackle or pop and then a gap in the conversation. It's probably my only gripe. I would like to have less quality voice on degradation of signal, but not lose part of the conversation... still its a great phone and much more fun now I have rooted and modded it.
Hi Guys
I bought the SGS II but i started to regret this decision after a couple of days
Everyone wants something out of a phone and Sensation might be a perfect fit for one person, while the SGS II for another
I owned the desire HD before and I really appreciated how smooth the interface was, and the number of business widgets readily available with sense (email, calendar, people, friend stream). I also appreciated how social networking is integrated into sense
In all honesty SGS II is a beast when it comes to speed, but it UI is way behind sense. Out of the box it does not offer the widgets i want,and 3rd party widgets are not as good or do not offer functionality or integration with sense
Amazingly, SGS II UI also becomes laggy when you fillout 7 screens with widgets. I had 7 screens of widgets on the DHD and the scrolling was very smooth
SO MY QUESTION IS
is this smoothness retained in sense 3.0. Do they still have the same nice sense widgets integrated with the system and is sense still smooth even after you fill out 7 screens with widgets ?
Thx
Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
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Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
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same here. 7 Screens filled. No lag
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Went from Desire HD til Sensation, and I am very pleased.
The form factor of the Sensation, although the difference is not huge on paper, is all in favour of the Sensation. It's much more manageable, and feels better in my hand.
The build quality is better, and to me it feels like an "improved" Desire HD, where all small quirks have been fixed (like battery and Sim card covers, and power/volume buttons)
In short the Sensation feels like a better quality device.
I have always liked Sense, and Sense 3.0 is a very good improvement, with nice new features. (I used Sense 3 addons on my DHD, and I would never go back to Sense 2.1 now)
It is to early for me to conclude battery performance, since the battery only have 2-3 cycles completed, but I have complaints on performance so far.
Speed of dual core is also hard to comment, as my Desire HD ran custom ROM, so it was fast. The Sensation does not feel slow at all, but about the same as the single core 1Ghz DHD. My guess is that when HTC opens the bootloader and custom ROMs are created, it will be noticably faster!
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II and TouchWiz 4.0 is ported to Sensation
I've always said I don't really mind what software the phone is running (as long as it's Android!) because I or another dev can port the software I'd like
i personally hate widgets and sense. So on my sensation I went with launcher pro and like 2 widgets. I dunno its just personal preference i guess everything is.
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To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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That was all before HTC opened the DEV Center for Sense, it may get quite a bit easier to work with Sense.
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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Always time for a first, though
We have come to love HTC for their brilliant designs, powerful hardware, and impressive software advancements, but as a long time HTC fanatic I can't help but feel like HTC is resting on their laurels. I am an EVO 4g owner at the moment and had the privilege to play with an EVO 3d. The 3d is a great device but the advancements are not that apparent at first glance. More specifically sense. If you have ever spent some time with s sense 2.1 device it seems to be basically the same. The changes are mostly cosmetic. If I wanted more of the same I would go buy another EVO 4g. I a not angry or anything but I will be skipping the 3d. HTC hassle far not impressed with their dual core offerings and I will hold out for something else from another manufacturer. What I am saying is having an OS with "basically" the same "feel" is getting old. The power of the 3d has its appeal for custom roms but sense has lost a lot of its appeal primarily because stock Android has made vast improvements.
You wouldn't take a 3D over a regular Evo?
With all due respect, unless you're using apps that benefit from a dual-core processor, you're really not going to see a difference between your already powerful 1 GHZ Snapdragon in your Evo and the 3D's dual core.
I would take it if it were given to me but my point more specifically was about sense. The hardware is powerful, but the software HTC uses is getting to be old. That is all. They need to refresh it. Basically what I am saying is that I think its time for HTC to offer a new "experience" with their phones.
Did you miss sense 2.1/3.0 or something? How about the new unibody designs, or the improvement of the speaker grilles? Oh! How about making the first ever WiMax and LTE phones.
Good, cause it never happened. /s
You know who needed to change it up... Motorola. You know who changed it up? Motorola. HTC is constantly innovating, maybe not in a way that's obvious or important to you but there are many people who love HTC devices just the way they are. HTC is moving, constantly improving. The sense overlay on gingerbread is amazing. If you haven't used it yet, don't bash it. HTC is doing good things...
Wasn't the first evo basically an HD2 anyway?
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Wasn't the first evo basically an HD2 anyway?
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Basically with a different cosmetic changes, different os on the nand, different radio, etc etc.
But I agree with the post on Motorola. HTC did change a lot with Sense cosmetically, but what do they really need to change internally? 2.3.3(or .4?) is the base os used for Sense 3.0. Motorola is still on Motoblur that is eh....Still not so well...
I have used sense 2.1/3.0 (MIKG is great ) and while it is good cosmetically it really doesn't add anything but umm...cosmetics. I am not talking hardware here as stated. Sense just doesn't do much under the hood. All of HTC's advancements are all on the surface.
I think HTC has to be a little more efficient with their widgets and I would be happy. A 4x4 widget to show me my bookmarks seems like a waste of space to me.
I don't understand the arguement that HTC is falling behind or needs to change things up. Virtually all other Android overlays have remained the same, also. Touchwhiz, Motoblur, etc. for the most part look the same since they were created. HTC Sense is generally accepted as the superior interface, so why change something that isn't broken? Certainly on the hardware department, HTC is on par with the rest of them and the software is robust and very visually appealing. The widgets are huge and amazing, why change it? I love the changes brought by Sense 3.0 including the 3D effects and Quick settings tab. Sure, its not a giant leap foward.. but how can you leap foward if you are already ahead?
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I don't understand the arguement that HTC is falling behind or needs to change things up. Virtually all other Android overlays have remained the same, also. Touchwhiz, Motoblur, etc. for the most part look the same since they were created. HTC Sense is generally accepted as the superior interface, so why change something that isn't broken? Certainly on the hardware department, HTC is on par with the rest of them and the software is robust and very visually appealing. The widgets are huge and amazing, why change it? I love the changes brought by Sense 3.0 including the 3D effects and Quick settings tab. Sure, its not a giant leap foward.. but how can you leap foward if you are already ahead?
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I never thought of it that way, you make a very good point. Sense is a giant step ahead than all of the other UIs, maybe because they are so successful we expect them to always innovate?
What I would love from HTC is a very nice clock that is 4x1 and the ability to resize widgets. If they do that I am a happy camper lol .
agreed......hardware is blah
How many sense phones can u have? You won't buy an EVO 3d for the software if you own an EVO. Only for the spec increase. You already know what you're getting and what's the fun in that.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...t-be-receiving-full-sense-4-instead-lite-3-6/
I still think it'll come. HTC said the same thing about Sense 3.0 last year. Besides, the One V can run Sense 4...so can the Sensation.
"Considering that a phone like the Sensation (which features a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 768MB of RAM and 4GB of internal storage), can’t run Sense 4 smoothly, it’s better this way."
Wow, are you serious? CAN'T RUN SENSE 4.0 SMOOTHLY!? I call BS, the new One series has specs close to the Sensation and your telling me it cant run smoothly? smh. And i thought they said 4.0 was supposed to be lighter? da fuq.
thats why theres roms
From the original source of this story, Recombu.com, via phonearena.com, via droiddog.com:
**Update**
We've just received this written statement from HTC
"HTC Sense brings a variety of new software enhancements to HTC One, some of which utilize the latest hardware innovations, meaning not all functionality can be introduced to older HTC Devices. With that said, we are looking to bring a Sense 4 software update that includes as many of the enhancements as possible to a variety of our new devices."
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what?!even HTC one V was able to handle it
HTC sensation with dual core not able to handle it?
HTC also did mention that sense 4.0 will be lighter than sense 3.X
now they telling us our phone cant handle it?
HTC learn from apple please!
they are still updating thier older iphone product to latest generation IOS
they wont leave thier older product to the death!
HTC wake up!place customer first!not your new product first!your sales been slowing down!Do something and win customer's heart back!
Fairly positive the V has sense 3.6
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Fairly positive the V has sense 3.6
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V had sense 4.0 according to HTC website
It will come to sensation trust htc will roll it out sooner or later and if not, once we have the one s rom, we will have a proper rom cuz they are almost identixal phones
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what?!even HTC one V was able to handle it
HTC sensation with dual core not able to handle it?
HTC also did mention that sense 4.0 will be lighter than sense 3.X
now they telling us our phone cant handle it?
HTC learn from apple please!
they are still updating thier older iphone product to latest generation IOS
they wont leave thier older product to the death!
HTC wake up!place customer first!not your new product first!your sales been slowing down!Do something and win customer's heart back!
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its all for marketing purposes so you can buy the new phones
I remember them saying that Sense 3.5 would only be usable on dual core phones which was not true at all Had a Mytouch 4g running a Sense 3.5 rom with no bugs and great speed
plus its time consuming for them to update "old phones"
Plus, remember that the new camera features are a big part of Sense 4, which probably requires hardware that only the One series has (what they refer to as the "latest hardware innovations"). They would have to take that out before giving Sense 4 to our phones, which would take time away from the more important task of getting the One series ready for sale.
HTC never said themselves that the Sensation can't run it smoothly, that was just the website's assumption. It doesn't necessarily rule out us getting Sense 4 eventually, but I would not expect it to come anywhere near, and certainly not before, the release of the One series.
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Plus, remember that the new camera features are a big part of Sense 4, which probably requires hardware that only the One series has (what they refer to as the "latest hardware innovations"). They would have to take that out before giving Sense 4 to our phones, which would take time away from the more important task of getting the One series ready for sale.
HTC never said themselves that the Sensation can't run it smoothly, that was just the website's assumption. It doesn't necessarily rule out us getting Sense 4 eventually, but I would not expect it to come anywhere near, and certainly not before, the release of the One series.
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Yeah I remember that part, HTC said something about special imaging chip that allows to capture images during videos. I think that requires specific hardware.
Still they can upgrade software part of other things that dont depend on hardware, like new Sense launcher , themes etc.
Other option is that HTC probably knows that devs gonna port it anyways so they might as well let community to tinker with it
i don't htink so...it will come this summer or later but it will....
IMO
It will come with everything in 4.0 except the 25GB dropbox and new camera features.
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"Considering that a phone like the Sensation (which features a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 768MB of RAM and 4GB of internal storage), can’t run Sense 4 smoothly, it’s better this way."
Wow, are you serious? CAN'T RUN SENSE 4.0 SMOOTHLY!? I call BS, the new One series has specs close to the Sensation and your telling me it cant run smoothly? smh. And i thought they said 4.0 was supposed to be lighter? da fuq.
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Sensation specs close to the One? What have you been smoking? lol...it has much newer chipset technology, and will sh*t all over the Sensation crappy chipset....
the_scotsman, you just ninjad me...
Krait > Scorpion by far, just look at the Nenamark2 results:
HTC Sensation: ~44 FPS (avg, trying to eliminate custom roms).
HTC One S: 59.4 FPS limited by 60 FPS, i.e. this test does not utilize this chip's full power.
http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
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Sensation specs close to the One? What have you been smoking? lol...it has much newer chipset technology, and will sh*t all over the Sensation crappy chipset....
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You're as excited as me to dump the Sensation for a One X, right?
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As i saw on some videos on youtube. One V has 3.6 Sense, it looks the same as the 4.0, but there is no 3D effects in Sense launcher, that's the only thing i saw that is different than One S and X.
Let's start trolling on HTC like Desire users did
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OMG I cant run sense 4.0 on my N95 or my samsung d500 or my sony tv nor does my iphone. do you hear my complian about that..No and i tell you why
personally couldnt care if my sensation is running sense 4.0 sense 3.0 or sense 2.1. what i want is a phone i can make calls on and send texts.. have a screen that doesnt have a green hint on it when it comes to take a picture..
companys make money by bring out new stuff on there new phones what i think HTC is doing wrong is not fixing the problems with there old phones before bringing out a new phone..
Im sure some smart Dev with bring out sense 4.0 oneday for the sensation but are you really going to bycot HTC for wanting to make money....
I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
Face unlock?
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DangKid said:
Face unlock?
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Face unlock is not really useful at all. I think most people will just stick with other methods like PIN lock instead.
huy_lonewolf said:
I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
kemmo123 said:
I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with you. You probably have to wait until CM9 becomes official.
hmmm, not sure about other phone makers. My experience with custom rom ics is good. Undeniable when I first flashed the early version of ICS custom rom, it gives me nightmare with many things not working. But after the great custom rom developer put their priceless efforts to solve the issues, it is quite stable for the latest build right now. Haven't face any frustrating issues using it during working days or weekends.
ics on evo is getting better and better as each day passes. it started out super buggy but getting stable. still prefer gb tho
I have no problem with but a few apps that aren't compatible which makes my tablet reboot.
huy_lonewolf said:
I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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Personally, I can understand what you mean, but I still prefer HTC Sense to stock Android (including ICS) as there are many features that the Galaxy Nexus lacks (Internet-pass-through and text reflow in browser). Moreover, if I want pure ICS, I can just install a custom ROM on my Sensation. I will be installing custom ROM anyway, so fragmentation is not my problem as well. My bug with ICS is this: ICS is specifically optimized for TI OMAP 4 (which is the worst SOC I can think of for my phone compared to Snapdragon S3 or Samsung Exynos) and currently all of my devices running ICS (HTC Sensation, HTC One X, ASUS Transformer Prime) have video rendering problem when hardware acceleration is on (either the videos become choppy (snapdragon S3) or blurry (Tegra 3)). No other version of Android I have used has this many problems when it was launched.