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Well I've got about $450 that I'm going to use to buy a G2x (probably for a lot cheaper since they are going for $350-$400 locally) BUT I'm wondering if it's worth buying it now seeing as the Sensation is coming out June 8th. I'm guessing it will be $500 off contract as usual so should I save my money, buy some last gen phone and wait for the Sensation or should I buy the G2x and hope the price doesn't fall too low by next month and try to sell it?
I would go with the G2X if your looking for more development. The Sensation is supposed to be pretty locked down.
I think the sensation will be the better phone out of the box but like was said, it will be locked down so probably won't have much dev support.
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Hmm, well other phones have had locked boot loaders and had decent support no? If not then yeah I guess I'll stick with the G2x, I prefer development over out of the box performance.
Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.
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Yea I was wondering the samething. Might get both one for me and the other for the wife. Hope the Sensation is easy to MOD since I'll be coming from the HD2.
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It won't be nearly as open as the HD2 and as far as modding I'm sure it'd be easier but it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.
I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.
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I am sending my G2x back. It just doesn't seem that impressive. It doesn't feel like as big of a leap forward as I was hoping. I might get the Sensation.
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A big leap coming from which device?
It's just the first Tegra 2 phone that's why. It's not THAT impressive, but the UI speed is noticeably faster.
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...it will probably take a while for devs to figure out how to unlock the bootloader.
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Assuming they do at all.
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Assuming they do at all.
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Yeah :/ I hope they do because it's a really nice device, design and specs, but the SGS2 looks pretty sick, and with quadrant scores of 3500, that's impressive and it's already been OC'd to 1.5ghz. Quadrant scores don't matter really much, and I don't really like the way it looks, I prefer the design of the Sensation so I really do hope that someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloader and if not I'm sticking with the G2x.
The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable, it has more RAM and the slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
Not to mention it's so light...
@OP: What device you have now? I personally wouldn't recommend upgrading right now, wait until end of the year at least. Mobile technology is in that stage right now where a 6 month old phone is "outdated".
And I would definitely wait for Sensation to see how things go down and see if bootloader is encrypted and then maybe make your decision.
The Galaxy S2's specs are better IMO - the CPU seems to be more capable
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That's subjective.
it has more RAM
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Yep +1
slight increase in screen res doesn't really make up for the difference between S-LCD and S-AMOLED+.
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Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
Not to mention it's so light...
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone. Also Galaxy is made out of plastic which also is a thumbs down from me.
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That's subjective.
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Not really.
It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
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Sure it does! Just look at the difference between 2 30" monitors, one running at 1920x1080 and other at 2560x1600, the difference is HUGE. Plus I would take close to accurate colors over somewhat saturated colors any day.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way.
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That's a down point for many people including me, I need to feel some weight to a phone.
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But not necessarily for the OP.
g2x quadrant test blows any phone of the planet with its dual core processor
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It's posted some ridiculous benchmarks, which it's true mean very little individually but when you take them all together, it speaks volumes.
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Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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Now you're just being ridiculous.
It's more like the difference between 1920x1200 and 1920x1080.
qHD is half-arsed BS, it's an excuse for manufacturers to avoid actually improving screen resolutions in a meaningful way
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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Of course but I was just stating my opinion and fact in case OP wasn't aware of that.
Anyway I think either phone is great it's just a matter of preference and it's ability to be unlocked and flashed.
EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?
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Well from what I have seen I wasn't THAT impressed. It's better for sure but for how much these things cost I'm not sure it's worth it.
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It generally out-does the Tegra2-based handsets by about 20% if memory serves (which makes sense since they're both built around the same ARM architecture and the Exynos CPU in the Galaxy S2 is clocked 20% faster) but like all these things, you get the odd benchmark that seems to go against the flow as it were.
On the other hand, the benchmarks for the 1.5GHz MSM8660 dev hardware weren't generally 50% better than than the Tegra2 benchmarks, which leaves me thinking that down-clocked to 1.2GHz like the Sensation and Evo 3D will use, it won't be able to compete with the Exynos.
Of course, these are all synthetic benchmarks and not indicative of real-world performance but combined with the higher screen resolution and less RAM, I have a suspicion the Sensation won't feel as smooth or as quick as the Galaxy S2.
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I knew you were gonna say that and well after thinking about it for a bit I must say I was being a bit ridiculous.
But unless there are more powerful GPUs in phones they can't really up the resolution that much. Look at the ASUS Transformer tablet (I think that's the name), quite a bit of lag.
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Well, if they were to push higher screen resolutions, manufacturers could always use something like the SGX543 GPU the iPad2 uses - it's supposed to be an improved version of the SGX540 the original Galaxy S uses, which is still one of the best GPUs in use in mobile phones just now.
As for the Transformer, I'm a bit surprised - I thought the reviews were generally very positive, much more so than those of the Xoom and the new Acer tablet.
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EDIT: My DHD at stock speed achieves around 2300 Quadrant and 37fps in NenaMark. At 1.6Ghz Quadrant scores around 3300 and NenaMark is around 46fps. Going higher didn't do much difference as the device is majorly undervolted.
Is the extra cost really worth the extra performance?
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I can't speak for New Zealand but over here the SIM-free and contract prices for the Galaxy S2 are the same as they were for the Desire HD when it was first launched.
Obviously it's come down in price since then but so will the Samsung in time.
I personally dislike the light feeling of the Galaxy S series. The only one that wasn't so bad was the Nexus S, it had a decent weight to it, but I prefer heavier phones. Also I really love SAMOLED Technology, and I heard SAMOLED+ is even better.
As far as benchmarks and speed, if the UI is smooth after a certain point you can't really tell if it's any smoother.
Also if the G2x has better development that means overclocking and improved kernels and roms which would make it better than the Sensation. I really like the specs of the SGS2 but if it's as light as the Vibrant I will hate it. Currently I'm using no phone lol and I don't feel justified paying $250 for a Nexus One or $375 for a Nexus S when I can get a G2x locally for $350 which is what I'm going to pick it up for tomorrow. I'm really hoping after this leap in phone processing power they will focus on battery and screen resolution. Every screen should be SAMOLED+ and Retina Display with a weeks worth of battery. I'm sure the technology for it exists already...hell they could use tiny fuel cells to power everything, but most big battery companies have patented that technology so fail there.
I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.
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I know it doesn't mean that much but, I just ran my first quadrant score and it was 2725 on the G2x I got today.
I'm really liking this phone! I have to order some kind of protection for it now.
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That's pretty high! I'm hoping to keep my next phone for AT LEAST 6 months. The last phone I had was my LE Nexus S(which got scammed :/ ) which I had for about 4 months? Maybe a little less, but if the only phones I have to look forward to are the Sensation and SGS2 I might just keep the G2x. Will have to see how the SGS2 feels in hand.
I got a 3200 quadrant on my Vibrant, overclocked at 1.42!
At the moment, I have a Desire Z with a year left on my contract
I was thinking I could sell my Desire Z for about £150 (being optimistic for argument's sake) and then getting a Sensation XE for £400 (after getting cashback) which means it would cost £250 but then after a year I could sell the XE for £200-250 as I'll be getting a new contract anyway (not staying with T-Mobile as they reduced the data cap to 500mb)
However, looking now I might just sell my DZ and get a normal Sensation for £300
A few questions though, will the £100 difference be worth it for an XE with the iBeats + Beats Audio? My music is all high quality (v0) and I probably listen to music on my phone for about 2 hours a day at least. If not, is the audio quality of the Sensation comparable to the DZ?
Also, am I right in thinking I should definitely see a speed increase going from 800MHz to 1.2/1.5GHz dual core? How big would the difference be between 1.2 and 1.5? Can you use an XE battery in the normal Sensation?
I'm not bothered about space increase, and RAM is the same so are iBeats + Beats Audio + 300MHz*2 worth £100?
Oh, and can you underclock the CPU when rooted to save battery?
One final thing! If I was to wait a month before I got it, would I save much money or will the price stay the same for a little while?
Keep in mind, this phone is to just last me a year.
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At the moment, I have a Desire Z with a year left on my contract
I was thinking I could sell my Desire Z for about £150 (being optimistic for argument's sake) and then getting a Sensation XE for £400 (after getting cashback) which means it would cost £250 but then after a year I could sell the XE for £200-250 as I'll be getting a new contract anyway (not staying with T-Mobile as they reduced the data cap to 500mb)
However, looking now I might just sell my DZ and get a normal Sensation for £300
A few questions though, will the £100 difference be worth it for an XE with the iBeats + Beats Audio? My music is all high quality (v0) and I probably listen to music on my phone for about 2 hours a day at least. If not, is the audio quality of the Sensation comparable to the DZ?
Also, am I right in thinking I should definitely see a speed increase going from 800MHz to 1.2/1.5GHz dual core? How big would the difference be between 1.2 and 1.5? Can you use an XE battery in the normal Sensation?
I'm not bothered about space increase, and RAM is the same so are iBeats + Beats Audio + 300MHz*2 worth £100?
Oh, and can you underclock the CPU when rooted to save battery?
One final thing! If I was to wait a month before I got it, would I save much money or will the price stay the same for a little while?
Keep in mind, this phone is to just last me a year.
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If you are planning on rooting you might as well get a normal sensation and load a XE Rom and overclock it to 1.5 no use spending an extra $100 unless you really just want the headphones.
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Yes you can use an xe battery in sensation, and underclock the cpu.
Sent from my silky smooth Sensation 4G.
I've enjoyed my Sensation, but why not get something higher end at this stage of the year?
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If you are planning on rooting you might as well get a normal sensation and load a XE Rom and overclock it to 1.5 no use spending an extra $100 unless you really just want the headphones.
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Yes you can use an xe battery in sensation, and underclock the cpu.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm more interested in the Beats Audio technology than the earphones (I understand it only works with iBeats)
If I underclocked it to say 800MHz it should save battery but still be faster than my 800MHz DZ as it's dual core, right? Do you have a Sensation or XE? Do you see any difference between 1.2 and 1.5GHz?
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I've enjoyed my Sensation, but why not get something higher end at this stage of the year?
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I liked the idea of the SXE + Beats Audio, but then thought I might as well get the Sensation instead if there isn't much difference
I want something lighter than my DZ and I don't need the keyboard as I use Swype anyway. the larger 16:9 screen would be better for me watching videos on it as well
Really I might as well just get a more-modern-than-my-dz-but-older phone and wait a year as I'll be getting a new contract and can get something better than. What else would you recommend?
Has anybody else got the s and sxe to compare
honestly if your dz is doing everything you need, i would just hold off until a more recent phone comes out
sensation is a great upgrade if you dont want to pay that much money for a pretty up to date generation phone
however its got a lot of problems too, most of us get: powerbutton issues, dust under screen, battery life is only decent (you might want to get a bigger capacity battery like anker),
it is a fast phone, capable of pretty much anything, beautiful screen (qHD), very nice build quality (minus the power button, which is software/hardware problem), camera is not bad at all for a phone
to my knowledge beats audio is a software thing and it sounds amazing with a rom that has it on my regular sensation (non XE) using normal headphones, it probably sounds even better with the beats headphones, but i dont know for sure
there isnt a big difference between 1.2 and 1.5 ghz. both sensations have the same cpu, one is underclocked at 1.2 and the other is running normal speed at 1.5 due to bigger battery
overall i do like the phone, big upgrade from my htc hero, thats probably why
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honestly if your dz is doing everything you need, i would just hold off until a more recent phone comes out
sensation is a great upgrade if you dont want to pay that much money for a pretty up to date generation phone
however its got a lot of problems too, most of us get: powerbutton issues, dust under screen, battery life is only decent (you might want to get a bigger capacity battery like anker),
it is a fast phone, capable of pretty much anything, beautiful screen (qHD), very nice build quality (minus the power button, which is software/hardware problem), camera is not bad at all for a phone
to my knowledge beats audio is a software thing and it sounds amazing with a rom that has it on my regular sensation (non XE) using normal headphones, it probably sounds even better with the beats headphones, but i dont know for sure
there isnt a big difference between 1.2 and 1.5 ghz. both sensations have the same cpu, one is underclocked at 1.2 and the other is running normal speed at 1.5 due to bigger battery
overall i do like the phone, big upgrade from my htc hero, thats probably why
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Thanks for the reply. When you say dust under the screen how bad are we talking? Also is the power button issue that bad?
well for mine, theres a small cloud on the left and right side middle of screen. it doesnt affect the viewing of the screen at all, well not yet, lol, but it might get worse. its only visible under direct sunlight shining from the side.
not everyone gets the power button issue, but id say majority? its when you press on it to turn off the screen, it turns off and turns back on by itself, sometimes happens many times in a row. no problem with turning on the screen. only when turning it off. i stopped turning off the screen now, unless im trying to conserve battery
these are probably the biggest problems i have with the phone, otherwise its a great phone. but no phone is perfect...
Just ordered one
thanks everyone
Don't buy it. It is a total waste of money, to be honest
In the end Play emailed me saying I had to call up customer services to verify the payment (think it's because I used a different card)
After several attempts to call them and waiting on hold for half an hour I just gave up and cancelled my order.
Now I'm thinking about getting a SGSII
The only thing putting me off is no HTC Sense, and cheap build quality
Sensation is a great phone and Sense makes it even greater, but htc Edge is probably coming next year and that beast has a quad core. You might wanna wait for that. Quad core phones are coming!
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Sensation is a great phone and Sense makes it even greater, but htc Edge is probably coming next year and that beast has a quad core. You might wanna wait for that. Quad core phones are coming!
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Oh man, I didn't know about that. that actually looks incredible
I wonder how much it will be when it comes out though...I wouldn't like to spend £500+ on a handset pay as you go
Plus next December my contract will be have ended, so I will get a new one and get a new phone anyway.
If you want to play games, listenning to dance music => sensation is a very good choice but you can think about GS2
Thanks
Gonna go into a shop tomorrow and test them both to see which I like the feel of most (most likely the Sensation tho)
Edit: Just ordered an XE
Worked out at £265 over 2 years on contract
I've still got a year on my T-Mobile contract so I'll just give the SIM to someone else in my family
Congratulations...wise choice!
GS2 has SERIOUS audio quality issues. If you plan on listening to music on your phone stay miles away from it. All GS2 phones are affected by CPU and radio crosstalk.
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1053978.html
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Whoever on page one said most of us have dust issues and power button issues, please keep in mind, only a small amount of us have any of those issues.
The Sensation is a great device, and while it has some problems (don't all phones?), ICS and Sense 4.0 will make it incredible.
I just hope Sense 4.0 has the ICS color scheme. Blue, gray, white, and black would look sweet. That, and I think Sense should be dropped down to just the launcher + widgets. That would help differentiate HTC's devices from everyone elses, and it would be fast and lightweight.
went to have a look at the phones today, the SGSII feels cheap and seems huge compared to the XE (almost as big as the XL)
I'm sure I made the right choice now
To Soon?
But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
I've grown used to the Android Market announcing some superior phone at the beginning of the year only to be out done by another come the Holidays. I thinking of getting a One X, but the thought lingers of come a months time or two after I've gotten it something "better" gets leaked/announced.
I didn't post this in the Q&A since its more of general idea then an actual question regarding the phone.
If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.
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I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.
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Think about it. Only phones really worth waiting for is Samsung , and iPhone and the nexus. Now if you are a serious flasher then wait for nexus. That is the only phone really worth getting my friend in fall or like I said iPhone. One X will last you at.least a year min.
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But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
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Removable, and more powerful battery, removable sd card, better gpu, waterproofing, thinner bezel, software buttons, better camera, wireless charging, multi-sim, decreased thickness, lighter weight, and a white color that doesn't get tainted by your jeans.
All of these are potential candidates, though they probably won't all happen at once.
Better battery
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I really want to see a new category of androids....gaming phones(yes sth like xperia play), I believe that will happen when the android games will be like those that are for psp. And that phones will have super cpu, ram , battery,bla,bla, and they will have controller!!!!!!!!
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I too am looking to get a new phone to replace my galaxy S.
are there any sites leaking info to a rumored next release of the nexus?
HTC has decided to go in the wrong direction with the One series wrt non-removable battery and no SD slot, imho, so I will not be looking to spend money with them unless they change direction.
Fortunately I am very pleased with my Sensation which has a removable battery and lots of good upgrade battery options to fill it, and some people have reported that the 64g XD works there as well, but I am less happy with TMO for which I have another 14.5 months left on my contract.
I am hopeful that I will have some better options to choose from then.
Well, maybe they'll find a way to make cheap AMOLED non-pentile HD screens. I guess there will be more phones with NFC.
Also there has to be some innovation in the battery sector. With screens getting bigger -requiring more cpu and gpu- phones will get veeery hungry.
But aside from the typical bigger-screen-faster-cpu race I hope that there will be more usability enhancements, just like the S3 is promoting. Because what's a phone worth that's blazingly fast and big but you still pull down your notification bar and click that icon to read your text?
I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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I believe that we have a truly amazing device in our hands. If you love your oneS then the least you could do is to write a good review about somewhere like on amazon or something especially since now we have some saboteurs trying to ruin our devices name and drop its rating to zero. But in actuality if our device gets horrible reviews no new developers will come here to work with our phones. I don't believe that is fair and so I am starting my own campaign called goodreview-Aday where I will give positive feedback on our device and rate it high on several major websites that sell our phone such as amazon eBay etc. Everybody can join me to keep development alive for our phone! If everybody not experiencing the alleged issue wrote one good review on one site their evil little "campaign" will have no chance!
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
Fastest android mobile currently
IMO sense V4
Regarding the first post, developers won't go by "user reviews" on shop sites, they will look into all the hardware detail and kernel source/drivers/software stuff etc. and if they like what they see then they will buy it.
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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Amazing build/perceived quality compared to any other android mobile
Great design/looks
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Agreed, and now that they seem to have done something about the metal arc oxidation issues its build quality is great.
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Amazing audio, which is only matched by the GS 3 and perhaps the iphone 5
One of the best cameras
Great battery life out of the box, again best there is for android phones
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Yes, yes and yes, the Beats gimmick aside the regular audio output is of very good quality as GSMArena's measurements show. Camera is a delight to use, although the S3 version has a small buffer lag between shots. Battery life, surprisingly, seems to be very similar between the S3 and S4 models.
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The S4 version yes, the S3 version no.
IMO sense V4
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Yes, Sense 4 is really good, better than TouchWiz although I suspect most people on XDA prefer stock Android if it means faster updates
Personally, I think the One S was a really good phone when it launched, but the change to the S3 processor has changed my view of the model significantly; it is still a good phone for what it is but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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What's so amazing about this phone?
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Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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Not any more, HTC have reworked the One S to use the Snapdragon S3, and for most regions outside the US at least all newly manufactured units will be the revised spec.
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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but the price is too high for a phone using a 2010 chip.
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Completely agree about that with regards to the S3 version.
Regarding the battery and speed, I thought it was the other way round (in real world usage), battery much worse and performance isn't as good but for standard usage like games etc. there isn't a huge difference.
Doesn't help when no one has posted any info. on the battery of the S3 though i.e. screen shots and detailed info..........
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I agree this device is amazing-but Htc needs to step up their game and provide S-Off and in general be more developer friendly -Htc Dev has done more harm then good it seems to me and recovery is a mess some use twrp others prefer cmw - If Htc would show better support It would be one the best phones to date Just my 2c
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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^Absolutely agree with this. Recovery really is a mess.
The rest of the device is overall good, but there are some cons to go with the pros.
+ Nice display, accurate colors. PenTile didn't bother me a bit. Great viewing angles and black is truly black, unlike on the Samsung devices where black appears blotchy. 4.3 for me seems the sweet spot for screen size and overall phone size.
+ Slimness of device is nearly unparalleled.
+ Speed (based on S4) is best-in-class
+ Battery life (on Sense ROMs) is excellent
+ Camera and Video capabilities are excellent
- Overall call quality on the latest two radios is awful. Crackling and full of static. This is subjective, and I'm in Los Angeles, which isn't known for amazing AT&T voice quality. This leads me to
- Inconsistent data speeds. Again subjective, but my Lumia 800 seems to pull down faster and more consistent speeds on the ATT HSPA network.
- SIM Cover starts to creak if you remove it more than the first time you install your SIM.
- Placement of the power button at top right for this tall a device is not ergonomic. AOSP/CM10-based ROMs enable wake via volume rocker, which is useful, but inconsistent.
- Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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Recoveries come from our local friendly developers if your recovery is a mess contact them it is no way htcs fault. I love this phone despite no s-off. And that's okay for me lol we will steal it from the Onex one day lol.
For the new radios and your crackling problem, most unlocked android devices have this issue when you unlock them I have a sidekick 4g on att right now and this on tmob and there is a compareable difference
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I absolutely love this device. I had the choice between the one s and the s3 and chose this one and am really pleased. It fits my hands perfectly and outperforms most devices. The battery life is unparalleled. I average 4 to 6 hours on screen time while some friends with s3's only get 2 hours with power saving on. The lack of s off is little annoying but not that big of a deal for me since my hboot is so low. As for the people spreading negative reviews in hopes to "teach HTC a lessons" this is a horrible approach. Operation rolling thunder should be stopped!!
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And the UK still has quite a lot of S4's. Although S3's are being sold here as well, but not sure which places are selling only those versions. I think amazon are only supplying the S3 versions now. AFAIK the network shops still have supplies of the S4 version.
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Just wanted to mention that on Tuesday 11/09/2012 i received my nice new htc one s from talktalk.co.uk ( run on vodafone network) and it is a Z560e model (Ville C aka S3) version, personally i am not to bothered but figured worth mention for anyone who maybe intrested in UK
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Only the best CPU chipset, better than the quad in the GS 3 and X (s4)
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
My One S
My S one is about 5 months old. After years as a Nokia fan-boy I finally gave in and reluctantly jumped ship. So I was presented with a problem: Which phone do I get. I won't be taking up a place in a queue for the new iPhone 5 with the iSheep - as a Ubuntu user getting an android was a no-brainer. I chose the One S because 1/ it wasn't Samsung (my personal prejudice) 2/ the One X was slightly too big for my taste.
I know Nokia missed a very big boat by sticking with Symbian for so long, but on a personal level I was happy because I know them inside out I can mod them easily and enjoyed playing about with them despite the limitations. In fact the limitations made it more of a challenge and more interesting.Eventually the lack of progress Symbian was making, combined with the fact that Nokia jumped in to bed with Micros*#t forced my hand. So to be honest, I waited for T-Mobile to deliver my One S with very little enthusiasm. That's changed. I love my One S.
So as it's my first Android I can't say its any better or worse than a Galaxy III, a WildFire or a Nexus. I do know that I am very happy with it. On the hardware side I am happy about the lovely big screen, the slim casing and the nice finish. I am very happy with the processor speed and flawless screen refresh. Battery life could be better, but I will never be happy with battery life. Software wise, I am happy that there are people out there making ROMs which while flawed are keeping me very busy and making me feel like I have a new phone every week or so. I am happy that I have a JB based ROM while HTC has yet to release the "official" JB for the One S.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I love it.
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? better ? u idiot.
Just because it's A15Krait u got 2 cores....that GUN Exynos 4412 have it A9 but 4 cores son.
Which is rapes your HTC one S.. I didn't talk about ****ty Adrenno 225....which is garbage.
So don't talk about better or not.
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Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
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Saving the biggest for last, is the keyboard accuracy. The stock Sense keyboard is terrible, but the replacements in the market aren't much better. I consistently make ridiculous typing mistakes on Android's keyboards even after calibrating them. How many times do I have to type out 'The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog' in order to have it make a difference? This is, again, subjective, but with my large hands on a large device with plenty of screen real-estate, the keyboard should just work. And unfortunately on this device, it doesn't.
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I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
Terminator19 said:
Nice grammar, who is the idiot?
Obviously, you have no clue, "OMG has quad, must be better!"
Firstly lets have a look at performance, shall we?
Have a look at these benchmarks of the X (s4 version) compared to the GS 3:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p5.php
Notice how any test, which relies solely on the CPU is better on the S/X (S4)? Take it that isn't enough? Here have another benchmark comparison by another expert site:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/3
Once again, notice the CPU dependant tests?
Heck even the one S and XL holds it own very well in the other tests that are reliant on the GPU etc.
So much better performance per core (which is much better rather than having an extra 2 cores considering nearly every android app still doesn't fully utilise dual core let alone quad, therefore the much better performance for one core is better!).
However, that is just benchmarks, which only shows the potential power and doesn't really relate to real world usage. Have you actually used the mobiles yourself and compared tasks to see which is quicker?
I have (along with many others phones) and the S is the quickest/snappiest android device there is, quicker than the GS 3 especially in launching/loading apps, game levels, installing apps/games, loading thumbnails in the gallery etc.
Now onto battery life/power efficiency:
Lets take the XL for this test as it is more fair since it has the 720P res. and bigger screen, although it does have a much smaller battery compared to the GS 3, but have a look here anyway:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/2
Although I always take benchmarks for battery life with a pinch of salt as they aren't exactly a great representative when it comes to real world usage.
But reading through many posts, XL users are able to get up 6 hours on screen time (auto brightness) spread across 1-2 days, where as the best that GS 3 users seem to get is around 5 hours spread across 1-2 days, on average the XL users are getting 4-5 hours on screen time with 1-3 days usage and on average the GS 3 users are getting 3-4 hours on screen time spread across 1-2 days.
Can you read the graphs ok?
Also nothing wrong with the battery life on my stock S and same goes for many other people. Like to see GS 3 users get the same as me with my usage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27665378#post27665378
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Now onto the heat that the chips generate, well there simply is no contest in this area, here is a video comparing the S4 to the exynos dual core chip used in the GS 2 and some other CPU, which is used in one of Motorola's phones:
And the exynos quad won't run any cooler than the S4.
Oh and yup the adreno 225 combined with the S4 is real xxxxx, oh wait..........
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6121/glbenchmark-25-performance/2
I personally find the typing is very good even with the sense keyboard.
With swiftkey it is even better!
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Closed Source Project said:
Please don't be a ****. From your signature it looks like you don't even have this device. You are probably one of the trolls who wrote bad reviews.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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laggy? sense 4.0 on my one s is less laggy than my friends SGS3 and even iphone4.
you sir, are biased and doesnt know what you are talking about.
and about the phones people buy, that has to do nothing with the wellness of the phones, its absolutely marketing, which HTC lacks alot.
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Biased? lol yeah right I dont even own those phones. And to say that sense 4.0 is smoother than Touchcrap 4.0 and iOS5 is just outright lying. Yes it's smoother than sense 3.0 but it's still laggy and I have been following the One X long enough to know that A LOT OF people complain about how laggy sense 4.0 was.
And FYI people dont ask about HTC not because HTC doesnt advertise enough. As a matter of fact a lot people know about them. They just dont buy them because HTC has the reputation of making buggy phones. And as a former owner of 2 HTC phones I cant say I disagree.
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Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I havent used it. I work for a phone shop and my co-worker has this phone. I think it's "interesting" to see HTC uses the S3 in the version sold in all regions in Asian Pacific, and yet charges the same price as the S4 version. Not sure how amazing Sense 4.1 will be once it comes but from what I've seen out of the box it's laggy. But I guess it's gonna really a big injustice since no-one asks for it anyway. Everyone buys either Samsung or Apple or (rarely) One X.
I think I should shut my mouth because when people say the truth on here they are often mistaken for being trolls and get banned. Scary.
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You got an S3, didn't you? I'm sorry about that and have been quite out-spoken about HTC's idiotic behavior regarding other countries, but the S4 One S is a great piece of machinery.
I have never had on hands experience with the S3 version so can't comment on it, however, when I have had my S4 one S side by side with the GS 3 (quad) and the 4s, the one S has been quicker/snappier/instant smartphone and the GS 3 appears smoother overall, although this is largely down to the animations and the animation scaling used, when JB arrives on both phones there should be no difference at all then really, in terms of smoothness.
I have found the 4s/4 to be laggy in quite a few places personally and not as silky smooth as what many people make it out to be.
Also, the one X hardware (tegra 3) was very poorly optimized with sense/ICS, when the mobile was first released, it was so laggy and nowhere as instant as the one S (S4), since the last update it has improved somewhat, however, still not as good as the S (S4) and GS 3, with JB it should be much better as the nexus 7 has the exact same hardware and it is smoother and faster than both the GS 3 and S, of course assuming HTC don't **** up with driver optimisation on sense Vxx whatever it will be with JB.
Regarding why people don't get HTC handsets, yes for some reason people seem to think they're an awful company with poor phones, I would have agreed with some of their phones (largely the desire HD, IMO their worst phone), however, most of their phones (especially the one series) are actually very good and out of the people I know who have a HTC android device have been very happy with theirs and not had any problems (a lot of people absolutely love sense, the homescreen and widgets impresses the "average joes" a lot). And it does largely come down to marketing/brand in the end, as in the UK here, the majority of ads that I see on TV, posters on bus stops etc. is for the GS 3, iphone, GS 2, galaxy ACE & Ace 2 (the Ace mobiles are bundled with very good network deals though, the ads aren't actually for the phones themselves) along with a few for the one X and virtually no ads at all for the one S (still have not seen a single ad on TV for the one S), people automatically recognise the GS 3 and iphones where as with the likes of HTC phones people aren't sure about them and automatically think they aren't good since they never heard of them.
It is a shame because HTC did start the "empire" of android with the hero, desire and nexus one, dread to think where android would be now if it weren't for them.
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Thanks for making this video.. but sorry I just dont agree with your opinion on choosing and buying a device based on its SoC, which in turn , basing it on benchmarks.... IMO its a miserable way to buy a phone, the Ultra is a beautiful phone with a lovely big clear screen.. its shipped with Android N in the box.. which means HTC will support it throughout Android N and into O, so your looking atleast 1 year, maybe even 18 months... You should buy a phone based on how the experience is for YOU, if you pick it up in a shop.. and you love it.. Buy it because of what the phone means to you.. not for its SoC.
If you flash custom roms and "cook" kernels... yes ok, the SoC and ram is important but for 90% of the buying public.. they like the asthetics, the cosmetics of a device and if it runs their favorite apps, music and their media life.. then theyll buy it.
The 821 SoC has been shown to be a very efficient and battery friendly chip... Samsung have laid claim to the 835 for the S8, which means they will set the bar for huge prices because its the latest and greatest SoC, so other Devs will charge huge prices for an 835 SoC phone because itsa the latest and most costly chip to date... and, well.... Samsung did it and sold thousands..
Give me an Xperia XA Ultra any day.. because it runs smooth, fast and has a great loudspeaker.. with a great camera and SONYs UI is almost stock yet it only has a Helio P10 Mediatech chip and 3GB ... IMO, people who choose that device purely based on SoC and ram are chasing rainbows and will never ever be happy with anything they buy and are setting them selves up for a life of misery that their friends phone may be faster than theirs after the latest OTA or Custom rom .... with benchmark and constant speed testing all the time.... and who wants that.. Not me.
NightOrchid said:
Thanks for making this video.. but sorry I just dont agree with your opinion on choosing and buying a device based on its SoC, which in turn , basing it on benchmarks.... IMO its a miserable way to buy a phone, the Ultra is a beautiful phone with a lovely big clear screen.. its shipped with Android N in the box.. which means HTC will support it throughout Android N and into O, so your looking atleast 1 year, maybe even 18 months... You should buy a phone based on how the experience is for YOU, if you pick it up in a shop.. and you love it.. Buy it because of what the phone means to you.. not for its SoC.
If you flash custom roms and "cook" kernels... yes ok, the SoC and ram is important but for 90% of the buying public.. they like the asthetics, the cosmetics of a device and if it runs their favorite apps, music and their media life.. then theyll buy it.
The 821 SoC has been shown to be a very efficient and battery friendly chip... Samsung have laid claim to the 835 for the S8, which means they will set the bar for huge prices because its the latest and greatest SoC, so other Devs will charge huge prices for an 835 SoC phone because itsa the latest and most costly chip to date... and, well.... Samsung did it and sold thousands..
Give me an Xperia XA Ultra any day.. because it runs smooth, fast and has a great loudspeaker.. with a great camera and SONYs UI is almost stock yet it only has a Helio P10 Mediatech chip and 3GB ... IMO, people who choose that device purely based on SoC and ram are chasing rainbows and will never ever be happy with anything they buy and are setting them selves up for a life of misery that their friends phone may be faster than theirs after the latest OTA or Custom rom .... with benchmark and constant speed testing all the time.... and who wants that.. Not me.
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Well said I LOVE this phone. Came from a Pixel XL and a OnePlus 3T.
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Well said I LOVE this phone. Came from a Pixel XL and a OnePlus 3T.
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Yeah me too.. Ive had my U Ultra for about 4 days now.. and I love it.. just so smooth.. and it looks gorgeous... to be honest, I went into the store to get either a 3T or a Pixel XL with my Upgrade, but I saw the ultra (which was cheaper per month and upfront cost than the XL) tried the new Sense and Android N... . Camera is stunning and after 15 mins of testing.. I was sold.. took my Upgrade there and then, . Im happy it has 64gb of Storage & an SD., although I wouldve bought it if it had 32GB.
My only SMALL gripes are: theres no USB-C > 3.5mm jack converter in the box and also I think the bass (bottom) and tweeter (ear piece), while VERY VERY Loud and sound fantastic.. For me, dont sound as rounded and full and lack just a LITTLE bit of Mid-Range and less bass as the HTC 10 or even M8 speakers do., but thats just me
I am curious though, Why did you swap your XL and 3T for the Ultra?
I've now had my Ultra for a full day and find it to be a most excellent device. HTC continues to marry all the facets of an Android better than all but Google.
My OnePlus 3T is going to my uncle tomorrow, or Swappa Tuesday. I really appreciate what OnePlus does and their relationship with customers but in daily use, for me, the 3T reveals itself to not be a flagship. My number one gripe is poor touch response.
I always maintained that if HTC made and sold a phablet in the US again, I'd buy it. The design and aesthetics are just beautiful. I've always enjoyed HTC's software and it remains stellar.
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I've now had my Ultra for a full day and find it to be a most excellent device. HTC continues to marry all the facets of an Android better than all but Google.
My OnePlus 3T is going to my uncle tomorrow, or Swappa Tuesday. I really appreciate what OnePlus does and their relationship with customers but in daily use, for me, the 3T reveals itself to not be a flagship. My number one gripe is poor touch response.
I always maintained that if HTC made and sold a phablet in the US again, I'd buy it. The design and aesthetics are just beautiful. I've always enjoyed HTC's software and it remains stellar.
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I get bored honestly the 3T was nice but I didn't get that wownfactor and the camera was doodoo to me. Same thing with the pixel just was a meh phone. I also think I have come to figure out that I need/want a bigger device I think 5.7 is a great size maybe even 6.
Loving the ultra but getting used to size even coming from Pixel XL which was big as well. I feel the included case makes it more clumsy to handle and without the case is great to handle. But man I'm scared that I'm going to drop this off I use without a case.
My last HTC was the M7. After, was on a LG G3 and I wanted to buy the LG G6 but when I saw the U Ultra, I jump on it. Have it since a week now. Love it. The screen is beautiful, the camera give me some good shot.
I don't regret my choice buying an HTC u ultra despite of an LG g6.
Just don't buy it.
Wait for better and cheaper phones.
Anybody coming from a samsung device? Curious how the display is conpared to amoled screens? Does the ultra u seem washed out compared to the super amoled screens
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Anybody coming from a samsung device? Curious how the display is conpared to amoled screens? Does the ultra u seem washed out compared to the super amoled screens
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Yes it does, I have many devices and the u ultra screen is not bright enough
ramheer said:
Yes it does, I have many devices and the u ultra screen is not bright enough
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Thanks i am to going to see what else the year has to bring before pulling the trigger on the Ultra
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Thanks i am to going to see what else the year has to bring before pulling the trigger on the Ultra
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Samsung s8 plus will have a great screen and maybe even the new Sony xz premium coming out in June
ramheer said:
Samsung s8 plus will have a great screen and maybe even the new Sony xz premium coming out in June
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Yea the s8 im leaning towards
NightOrchid said:
Thanks for making this video.. but sorry I just dont agree with your opinion on choosing and buying a device based on its SoC, which in turn , basing it on benchmarks.... IMO its a miserable way to buy a phone, the Ultra is a beautiful phone with a lovely big clear screen.. its shipped with Android N in the box.. which means HTC will support it throughout Android N and into O, so your looking atleast 1 year, maybe even 18 months... You should buy a phone based on how the experience is for YOU, if you pick it up in a shop.. and you love it.. Buy it because of what the phone means to you.. not for its SoC.
If you flash custom roms and "cook" kernels... yes ok, the SoC and ram is important but for 90% of the buying public.. they like the asthetics, the cosmetics of a device and if it runs their favorite apps, music and their media life.. then theyll buy it.
The 821 SoC has been shown to be a very efficient and battery friendly chip... Samsung have laid claim to the 835 for the S8, which means they will set the bar for huge prices because its the latest and greatest SoC, so other Devs will charge huge prices for an 835 SoC phone because itsa the latest and most costly chip to date... and, well.... Samsung did it and sold thousands..
Give me an Xperia XA Ultra any day.. because it runs smooth, fast and has a great loudspeaker.. with a great camera and SONYs UI is almost stock yet it only has a Helio P10 Mediatech chip and 3GB ... IMO, people who choose that device purely based on SoC and ram are chasing rainbows and will never ever be happy with anything they buy and are setting them selves up for a life of misery that their friends phone may be faster than theirs after the latest OTA or Custom rom .... with benchmark and constant speed testing all the time.... and who wants that.. Not me.
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You just spoke my mind O' wise one! Kudos
Looks like its a "NO".
There is a SD835 phone coming in just a month.
I'm using this phone since 1 month and I'm very satisfy with. Its design, Its body, clear screen, many HTC personal touch and customizations. Very small details that will always make me come back to HTC. After using a One Max for years now and still rocking, I was patiently waiting for HTC to come with another phablet. Meanwhile I used many phone but I always come back to my One Max.
Yes, The Ultra is expensive, but I don't mind as my One Max is still rocking with Android Nougat and still impress me after so many years.
I was a bit afraid about the battery life due to 3000mah and such a large screen but the battery optimization app clear all my doubts, after tweaking it as per my needs, It radically change the battery life. No overheating or whatever.
My cons about Ultra are: no 3.5 jack adapter in the box. The stock earphone is of good quality, the sound clear and sounds very good but not so loud for me. The secondary screen lacks. They should have implement more options and customization. I'm waiting for a good custom ROM to fix some of these.
In general, I love this phone and I don't think anyone could change my mind about it. This phone makes me gain more trust in HTC and If another phablet will be out from them, I'm sure I will go for it even if its expensive.
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Thanks for making this video.. but sorry I just dont agree with your opinion on choosing and buying a device based on its SoC, which in turn , basing it on benchmarks.... IMO its a miserable way to buy a phone, the Ultra is a beautiful phone with a lovely big clear screen.. its shipped with Android N in the box.. which means HTC will support it throughout Android N and into O, so your looking atleast 1 year, maybe even 18 months... You should buy a phone based on how the experience is for YOU, if you pick it up in a shop.. and you love it.. Buy it because of what the phone means to you.. not for its SoC.
If you flash custom roms and "cook" kernels... yes ok, the SoC and ram is important but for 90% of the buying public.. they like the asthetics, the cosmetics of a device and if it runs their favorite apps, music and their media life.. then theyll buy it.
The 821 SoC has been shown to be a very efficient and battery friendly chip... Samsung have laid claim to the 835 for the S8, which means they will set the bar for huge prices because its the latest and greatest SoC, so other Devs will charge huge prices for an 835 SoC phone because itsa the latest and most costly chip to date... and, well.... Samsung did it and sold thousands..
Give me an Xperia XA Ultra any day.. because it runs smooth, fast and has a great loudspeaker.. with a great camera and SONYs UI is almost stock yet it only has a Helio P10 Mediatech chip and 3GB ... IMO, people who choose that device purely based on SoC and ram are chasing rainbows and will never ever be happy with anything they buy and are setting them selves up for a life of misery that their friends phone may be faster than theirs after the latest OTA or Custom rom .... with benchmark and constant speed testing all the time.... and who wants that.. Not me.
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Have to add another "Well said!" post to this thread. I've been using the U Ultra for 5 days now and I'm very happy with this phone. The 821 is indeed a very good at power management, as I've been able to get 36+ hours between charges with 3+ hours screen on time, mostly spent playing games and browsing the web.
This video is the best ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFbixkBiwAw
I love my U Ultra .. but what Im finiding annoying, is that everyone, including reviewers, love bashing HTC at the moment for their "wasted space"... but I ask... did anyone bash Google for the ugly wall brick sized chins on their £800 ($950) Pixel XL .. which has No stereo speakers, Or Apple.. for their wasted chin space on iPhone 6S Plus / 7 Plus.. No, they didnt.. however, I was annoyed that HTC left out the 3.5 mm Adaptor then forced me to pay £10 for one...
And they critisise HTC for "stealing" LG V10/20 2nd'ary screen... but lets take a look here...
HTC were first with Outboard antenna lines for better signal reception..
HTC were first with "real" Stereo speakers
HTC were the first to use 1.55 micron pixels on their camera "Ultra Pixel".. allowing for lower light photography at lower resolutions, opening the way for better mobile photography..
HTC were one of, if not the first dev to make a full all round metal body phone
HTC (and SONY) were one of the only devs to push the boundries with development of the LCD display instead of always falling back to AMOLED
So yeah, sort that one out Apple / Hauwei / Motorola.. and everyone else..
Thing is, HTC make some of the best and most beautiful phones around.. yes theyve made mistakes.. but I dont think they deserve the bashing theyre getting..
Oh and finally.. i was chatting to one of the staff in Carphone Warehouse (UK) and she said theyve sold 100s of U Ultras and U Plays, so good to hear from a support and OTA
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I just wish "Sense Companion" worked better here in the UK
Just my thoughts. anyway