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[Q] galaxy s vs desire vs iphone 4

Hello,
Im choosing a phone from these 3 phones. I like samsung, but im confused because people still saying that desire is better than samsung. Samsung hardware is better. OS is the same. And samsung is getting 2,2froyo soon. HTC Sense UI is not important for me.
I think galaxy S is better, but i need gps and i heard that samsung galaxy S is bad with GPS. Samsung said that they fix this. Will they really fix? Its not the same when the apple tried to fix bad antenna with new iOS ?

Pleaser help to decide. What about ROMs for Galaxy S. quantity of them is smaller than desire, but maybe in the future they will increase ?

please people help to decide. i dont now much about them.

Please dont be so bad guys. Advice me. What phone to choose

Get the Galaxy S. You wont be sorry.

Galaxy S. Period

How about ROM's for galaxy S ? And i now that there's a OpenDesire for HTC Desire which makes desire super phone. Will be there something for samsung ? At least fixes or smthg?

Please answer me guys, i have a few hours to decide. I dont now much about androids

Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.

Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big

I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread

no spam no answers

Dany0 said:
Galaxy S plus over Desire:
A bit larger Super Amoled screen
Storage
GPU
Cost
S/W Problems are getting fixed with new F/W updates
Battery life
Galaxy S negative points over desire:
Though the S/W problems are getting fixed with new f/w updates, they are being released too often, and often come with more problems.
The CPU "Hummingbird" has been called that it does 1,2x better on the same frequency as snapdragon. This is not truth anymore as latest builds are just as fast, for someone maybe a little more.
Somone said that the CPU might be overclockable to 1,6Ghz... NEVER. Well snapdragon is overclockable a bit higher then 1,4Ghz. But you need to overvolt it, NEVER use performance governor and basically... In short, the snapdragon CPU is H/W limited to a bit more then 1000 BogoMIPS. And it will cause problems. And so the hummingbird is. But because it's so optimized I can hardly think of any possibility why or how could it end-up with 1,6Ghz. It might go 1,4Ghz, but will have maybe even more problems then the snapdragon.
It looks iPhonish
It's support is... well come on it's still Samsung
H/W-wise it may be better, but just so in terms that you wanted a gaming phone, maybe movies phone. Everything else is the same.
It's bigger. Might be too wide for someone
The style isn't the right thing... Actually it's style I almost **** hate. 2cm on top and bottom, please kill me -.-' Though it may look good for someone, Desire looks better in terms of.. how do I call it... object placement?
The construction is good, but not as good as Desire's. (though some models shipped before summer had the the back side jarring/creaking. Unfortunately one of those is mine... but it stopped after I was pushing it/using it or what. Well it's okay now, in short. (Not a minus for desire)
It's pure plastic. Though really good plastic, clap clap for that. But it's plastic, so clap clap in Samsung's face.
Costs a liiitttleee more
Worser Custom roms.
Less accessories
A little worser community.. what am I talking about, it's just a bunch of whiney kids " GALAXY S IS BETTER YOU ***** MOTHERF*". Yeah about like that
And probably 1000 other reasons
Why Desire?
Better community, ROMs, speed, stabiliity, later battery life. Galaxy S maybe looks like less problems, but overall it's still the same thing, just a little bit enhanced. If you think you'll get more satisfaction with it, buy it. But if you don't specifically want a game phone, better get Desire...
Why NOT iPhone 4?
1.) Cost
2.) It's already very outdated
3.) Problems problems and problems
4.) iSheep
5.) The "awesome" Retina display is just the same decades old TFT display, it's so old, that's why they can make it higher DPI. But it's made by LG. In short LG = *************
6.) No changes from 3gs. And by changes I mean innovation. When I've heard about that there's new iPhone coming, I thought that it's gonna come with 2ghz-ish processor, 14mp cam... something for what it would be worth the money. And it's not. It's the same old CPU, just running 400Mhz faster frequency. iPhone 3gs 16MFlops, iPhone 4 19MFlops. (iPad 22-24Mflops)
7.) Loserphone
8.) Did I say loserphone?
9.) If even woman can use iPhone, what's the phone for men? Android TM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND
What date is it??? OOOH DUDE!!! Get Desire HD or any of the new high-end HTC phone being announced 15th September. If it'll have Adreno 205 it'll be even faster then the galaxy s. Actually 1/3 times faster.
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thank you very much ! Very helpfull post !

No problem, btw 4,3 is not big, my desire has 3,7' and I find it really small. (really)
And as far what I've seen, it will have really good construction.

Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone

cybertang said:
Samsung galaxy S is a pretty solid phone it runs great it looks sleek its screen is what is known as gorilla glass which if you look up is pretty impressive kudos to samsung for choosing that as the screen had mine since the second day it was released and it barely has scratches on the screeen 2x kudos and i am very rough with my electronics, great resolution fast processor and highly modded it becomes a straight monster phone who cares if im running stock rom you would never beable to tell after all that i did to my phone the development section is small yes but there is so much you can do with it i cannot wait till more comes out for this phone
phone:samsung galaxy s*vibrant*
De-T-Mobiled, stock rom, launcher pro plus
euro boot screen,shutdown. lagfix *market*
Rock solid phone
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See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...

MisterMonitor said:
Desire HD with 4.3 . It will be very very big
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Nope, the Desire HD will be about the same size as the Galaxy S. Look at the Evo, it's 2mm larger, 1 mm shorter than the Galaxy S, and 1 mm thicker (which is not really a sizable difference between the 2).
The Desire HD uses the whole space for the screen (where as the Galaxy S has 2 cm plastic at the top and 2 at the bottom).
I wanted to take the Galaxy S, but now I'm definitely waiting for the Desire HD.

Dany0 said:
See? that's exactly the type I was talking about...
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But i heard that samsung have a buggy OS. And have no costum ROMs and etc. There's a lot of good roms for Desire, including the OpenDesire which makes your phone super

ravi84m said:
I had a desire and now I'm using a I9000.
I must say that the Galaxy is lighter and faster. The screen looks amazing and the battery lasts much longer.
you won't regret buying either.
p.s. please stop spamming your thread
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the galaxy s isnt faster lol everyone knows about the galaxy's poor memory management, even galaxy owners complain about lag when using messeges or dialer ect, the fact of the matter is, if you have an xbox and dont care about playing games on you phone, get the desire its by far the superior device, if you want it for games get the iphone lol

i were almost buying Galaxy S, but then i heard about super thing called OpenDesire. And heard that samsung OS is buggy, laggy. And no costum ROMs

suggest me ! i am about to buy an atrix 2 !

hello friends !
i am about to get an atrix 2 from a friend in cheap !
so i was asking whether it would be good to buy this phone !
i know the chipset is old and all and that is not of my primary concern !
things i want to know about are
-battery life (main concern)
-camera and camcorder quality
-headphones output
-screen quality
-loudspeaker output
would also like to know about the jellybean update and how would you compare it to ics ?
i have been through many reviews of this device but would like to get personal user experiences from y'all..
you can also compare this device to the used devices in my signature pic so i'll get a very clear idea !
thanks...

buy it lets share the joys and regrets of this, well in my opinion is "UNIQUE" phone,, and if its cheap.. why think twice..

hafizkris90 said:
buy it lets share the joys and regrets of this, well in my opinion is "UNIQUE" phone,, and if its cheap.. why think twice..
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your comments regarding the points i mentioned above ??

aaki_rocker said:
hello friends !
i am about to get an atrix 2 from a friend in cheap !
so i was asking whether it would be good to buy this phone !
i know the chipset is old and all and that is not of my primary concern !
things i want to know about are
-battery life (main concern)
-camera and camcorder quality
-headphones output
-screen quality
-loudspeaker output
would also like to know about the jellybean update and how would you compare it to ics ?
i have been through many reviews of this device but would like to get personal user experiences from y'all..
you can also compare this device to the used devices in my signature pic so i'll get a very clear idea !
thanks...
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Yes, it is old, and therefor will not perform like new devices, but it was good for it's time, so is still not half bad.
Battery life can be good, but keep in mind you are buying a used phone, so it will have lost capacity over time. if it is bad, you might want to invest in a new battery.
Camera was one of the best of the time, and still is very good.
headphones work fine, but I doubt you will see anything particularly bad or good with them. keep in mind, as with all phones with the jack on the top, lint from your pants pocket often gets jammed in it, causing loss of audio or poor connections. you can remove it carefully with a bent paper clip (google it).
The screen is higher resolution than most phones when i came out, but it still is not as good as the phones today. Some people complain about a yellow tint, but generally the screen is very good.
Can't say much on the loudspeaker, I have never really used a different phones, but it does sound loud and good to me.
Jelly Bean really speeds things up, and most of the custom ROMs are JB anyways so you are probably going to want it.

And if you dont like to root the phone and flash the roms....
if can always install the official JB leak... this is pretty cool...
JB obviously much better than ICS.... It runs really really smooth...
Its been over an year now.. but still loving Atrix2 alot....

aaki_rocker said:
hello friends !
i am about to get an atrix 2 from a friend in cheap !
things i want to know about are
-battery life (main concern)- 2 Days on 2G and 6hrs on 3G
-camera and camcorder quality- Average quality camera
-headphones output- Nice audio quality
-screen quality- Warm tint and pales in comparison to IPS LCDs
-loudspeaker output- VERY loud. One of the loudest phones I've used
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My answers to your query in bold.
Battery life is phenomenal in 2G mode. I suggest you use tasker to toggle 3G/2G according to your need. The phone is strictly average in the present day. In addition, the non-existent Motorola presence in India makes spares harder to come by. So, even if you buy it for a pittance and later need a new battery, that alone would cost you 1500 Rs, and broken screen takes 1month to repair.
I suggest you not to rush into the purchase and regret it later .

raffmonster said:
My answers to your query in bold.
Battery life is phenomenal in 2G mode. I suggest you use tasker to toggle 3G/2G according to your need. The phone is strictly average in the present day. In addition, the non-existent Motorola presence in India makes spares harder to come by. So, even if you buy it for a pittance and later need a new battery, that alone would cost you 1500 Rs, and broken screen takes 1month to repair.
I suggest you not to rush into the purchase and regret it later .
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perfect answer !
doubts cleared !
thanks buddy...
getting a mint one black & white for 8k buddy !
what do you think. should I ??

Also just to point out, this phone has been locked down a lot by Motorola and our devs have worked hard to find work arounds. If you love flashing Roms and would require an unlocked boot loader then I can't suggest that you buy this phone.
That said, it is not a low end phone. Pretty fast and smooth. It has a good camera that takes quality pictures. Lastly it's pretty durable in comparison to other smart phones.
Press the thanks button if this post helped you

aaki_rocker said:
perfect answer !
doubts cleared !
thanks buddy...
getting a mint one black & white for 8k buddy !
what do you think. should I ??
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8K is the current going rate for Atrix 2s. What I would suggest is that you be thoroughly aware and ready to accept any pitfalls that might occur in the near future with this phone as far as Motorola support is concerned, if you intend to buy it.Agreed, it is a durable phone, a daily driver and runs Jellybean 4.1. However, what I got to know in the 3-4 months after I bought this phone that it is the Software that makes up the phone, the dev support, the variety of features and custom ROMs available. The locked bootloader on this model makes any stable Key Lime Pie upgrade doubtful, and the customizations for this are even lesser than that for Droid RAZR. And I presume that you know that this phone doesn't support 3G videocall over GSM network. You'll get bored after a day or two with this phone after having owned the likes of Razr and the One X.
I bought this phone over the Galaxy S II in September 2012 , very well knowing that even ICS upgrade might not come for this phone, and that it had more durability and better resolution than the former. But now, it feels ancient in the current lineup of Quads and 2GB RAM phones.
In short:
Don't buy it just because it is being sold for peanuts. Buy it if you really intend to use it despite the abovesaid facts.

raffmonster said:
8K is the current going rate for Atrix 2s. What I would suggest is that you be thoroughly aware and ready to accept any pitfalls that might occur in the near future with this phone as far as Motorola support is concerned.It is a durable phone, a daily driver and runs Jellybean 4.1. However, I got to know in the 3-4 months after I bought this phone that it is the Software that makes up the phone, the dev support, the variety of features and custom ROMs available. The locked bootloader on this model makes any stable Key Lime Pie upgrade doubtful, and the customizations for this are even lesser than that for Droid RAZR. And I presume that you know that this phone doesn't support 3G videocall over GSM network. You'll get bored after a day or two with this phone after having owned the likes of Razr and the One X.
I bought this phone over the Galaxy S II in September 2012 , very well knowing that even ICS upgrade might not come for this phone, and that it had more durability and better resolution than the former. But now, it feels ancient in the current lineup of Quads and 2GB RAM phones.
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right buddy !
i will think again and decide!
thanks for your valuable opinion..
i had an eye on this phone for its battery life though !

Among all the phones that were below 20K INR last year, this is the only one you can run Jelly Bean on. Most of the hardware purchased by others last year, are stuck to GB (and rarely upgraded to ICS). That way, the phone has given enormous return of investment to people who bought it new last year. Even now, if you're looking to run JB - this is one of your best options (assuming you're not interested in micromax/carbon etc) as value for money.

[Q] Should I buy OnePlus One?

Hello I would like the community's opinion regarding upgrading my current phone. I am currently Using LG G2. But I plan to upgrade my phone.
My primary candidates are HTC One M8, OnePlus One
The things I want:
- Good battery Life
- Primary Usage are Internet, and Watching Video
- Must be Reliable in terms of both Software and Specially Hardware***
I do intend to keep the phone I buy this time and keep it for a very long time like about 1.5 years or 2.
Please suggest me any other phone if you think it may suit my need
Also share your experiences about the issues faced by OnePlus One users.
Thank You

in_core said:
Hello I would like the community's opinion regarding upgrading my current phone. I am currently Using LG G2. But I plan to upgrade my phone.
My primary candidates are HTC One M8, OnePlus One
The things I want:
- Good battery Life
- Primary Usage are Internet, and Watching Video
- Must be Reliable in terms of both Software and Specially Hardware***
I do intend to keep the phone I buy this time and keep it for a very long time like about 1.5 years or 2.
Please suggest me any other phone if you think it may suit my need
Also share your experiences about the issues faced by OnePlus One users.
Thank You
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none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery

fahadsul3man said:
none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery
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But I dont think this product is available in my country.
+ I would like the manufacturer to provide updates in the future
Not sure if this manufacturer would do so.

in_core said:
But I dont think this product is available in my country.
+ I would like the manufacturer to provide updates in the future
Not sure if this manufacturer would do so.
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htc and oneplus will also stop updating their respective phones when they are bit old as well just like any other manufacturer anyhoo up to you

fahadsul3man said:
none of these , get a oppo find 7a :good: it has longer battery good display , super fast charging and of course removable battery
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Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Find 7a
DISPLAY Type IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- ColorOS UI
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OnePlus One
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 11S
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Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png

zephiK said:
Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png
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Thanks for your opinion and also an energetic one.
Can you share if you happen to notice any problems/issue with the phone, or common issues faced by this phone?

okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help

in_core said:
Thanks for your opinion and also an energetic one.
Can you share if you happen to notice any problems/issue with the phone, or common issues faced by this phone?
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I don't have any problems. If I did, its fixed or workarounded. Some of the problems I encounter,
- Touch screen bugs: Fixed via kernel update. It is eliminated fully in the next OTA. Not a problem of Oneplus or cyanogen, its a fault of Synaptics, the company who does the touch screen.
- Yellow on the bottom.... I use screen filter to workaround it, although there has been reports that the newest revisions don't have this problem anymore and it is rarely visible.
... Overall the phone is great and is a great budget phone with the top of the line specs.

reggiexp said:
okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help
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this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.

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this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.
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The thing is I has Touch Sensor issues with my LG G2, and spend a hell lot to change the whole display set. Now i want to get rid of it.
At this moment I am not sure if its worthy to spend $575 for HTC M8 or $450 for One Plus One 64GB. Those are the price at which these phone are sold in my country, so no arguments there.
I happen to use HTC M7 for 3 days which i borrowed from my friend and I loved its experience. But M7 has Camera Pink Tint issues and also USB connection port issues.
So you get that I am in a really confused situation. I dont want to spend so much money then worry about the reliability of the phone.
PS. Warranties are not available in my country other than Nokia and Samsung as other phones dont officially distribute in my country. And Samsung sold from the official dealers a really expensive. Like S5 costs around $700 with warranty

@zephiK, love reading your posts bro! You definitely know what you talking about and always post links to support your statements. Keep it up bro
-Tunasty

3vo3d said:
this is my concern also. it is why i am strongly considering getting the note 4. the 3 and 2 series have been exceptional.
However, the upgrade from 3 to 4 is negligible. Hence why im looking at the opo its these comments im reading here about its quality control which is making me hesitant. I hope we both enjoy our new phones but if you are debating then i would recommend you consider the note 4.
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i aint spending 300+ € on a phone that's my thing more just would make it nan. that's much.
so at the end i always come back at the oneplus, or last week found the xiaomi mi3. other phone are not aviable for a good price in europe. and i don't want to pay extra for import tax ect. cause that will be like 50-80euro more for a phone that i bought for 300€ and i aint paying more than what i decided that i want to pay
so my choos i limited...

zephiK said:
Really?
Are you being serious? The Find 7a and OnePlus One are very similar. Lets clear this up,
Longer Battery: Oppo Find 7a has a 2800 mAh battery; whereas, a OnePlus One has 3100 mAh. OnePlus One is also using CM11S which is pretty much AOSP and is very battery friendly. Many reviewers praise the OPO for its amazing battery life. Battery life is not a problem, you can have the worst wakelocks possible and end the day with 30%+ battery remaining
Good display: Both of the phones have very identical displays. Same ppi, same resolution, same Gorilla glass.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_find_7a-6215.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_one-6327.php
Super Charging: OPO has it too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Removable Battery: Lets be honest, even if I did have it... I wouldn't be changing the battery much and its a 3100 mAh anyways.
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Price point, OnePlus One is a lot cheaper of a phone. Has massive ROM and Kernel development whereas the Find 7a (or any other phone) does not with the exception of the Nexus series.
OnePlus One is a steal ~$364 with a invite for 64GB of storage. Cyanogen Inc is committed to updating this phone and commits are being pushed to the device on a daily basis, its their flagship device. Updates, big screen, reliability from Cyanogen Inc will not be a problem, they're hiring big names in the tech industry (from Microsoft, MediaTek, HTC, Facebook) and are a force to be reckoned with as of late with massive fundings.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...e-presidents-from-htc-mediatek-and-microsoft/
http://recode.net/2014/08/21/cyanogen-beefs-up-its-executive-ranks-with-hires-from-ea-facebook/
http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogen-vp-hires-396878/
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/tech-moves-blucora/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...o-with-cyanogen-inc-and-7-million-in-funding/
Get this phone. You won't regret it and it will for surely get Android L <90 days of release as promised. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/regarding-android-l.49957/
It takes longer as CM features need to be ported over to Android L. Other phones will have to wait for custom rom features as well.
Battery:
24% http://i.imgur.com/83VQN4W.png
...2 hours later.
http://i.imgur.com/RccfKni.png
http://i.imgur.com/xbV5bkd.png
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its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course

reggiexp said:
okay if you get lucky you will get a great oneplusone. but like my people they have problems.
maybe some have the problem but don't mind
but on the french side of the oneplusforum, one guy made a poll and lets say that 6/20 people have touchscreen/hardware problems.
so or you gonna have a great phone or you gonna have to email etc oneplus to get e new full working phone.
and still the oneplus one is a great phone. but its hard to love. i wanted it. but now i don't, i don't want to take the chance to have a sh!t phone that makes me mad 'again!' it's a cool nice phone, but the quality control is not always the same. one phone works other one is sh!t, so if you have the money to buy a other phone do it.
if i don't try a other 300€/400 phone there alot out there. xiaomi, oppo, zte.
all new cpu s801 and full hd from 5" - 5.5" if one day oneplus will get there sh!t totether and make the phone 100% working. with maybe 1or 2 /20 that have problems would help
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If you're lucky you might get a great OnePlus One? Come on, that's bs. The truth is, if you're really unlucky you might get a bad one.
All these posts claiming that there are such high numbers of faulty devices are just wrong. You can run all the polls you like but it isn't going to give you an accurate figure at all. Not even close. All you're doing is measuring the percentage of the amount of devices from people who could be bothered taking a poll, or who stumbled upon the poll in a small forum.
I know a whole bunch of people who own this device, we're talking dozens, and only one of them has had any issues with it. The fact is that the small number of people who do have a problem are always the ones who shout the loudest. You don't see anybody creating threads and causing commotion when their device is behaving like it should, do you? No, you don't.
Just because there are some faulty devices out there in the world, and people are making a completely half-assed attempt at measuring the percentage of faulty devices (people with zero actual data gathering experience or knowledge), does not mean there's a real problem with the One. All the loud-mouths with their whining only create an illusion that there's a problem, and all the gullible people soak it up like a sponge.
@in_core, buy the phone, you won't regret it.
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its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course
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Did you seriously just have a go at one of the most helpful and knowledgeable guys in this forum for a tiny flaw in an otherwise very insightful post? Dude.
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fahadsul3man said:
its only cheaper in selective market not everywhere , sigh smh people and their lack of research , and removable storage along with removable battery are LOT better than non removable one but thats subjective of course
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That's not a problem with oneplus. They're a start up company and for their first year, they're doing quite a good job. Sure it's not perfect with the invite system but that's due to their production.
The same could be said about the nexus devices, it's only cheap in selective markets. It's not just the oneplus one.
I'm not saying that removable battery and remove storage is not needed. Sure it's nice to have but let's take a step back.
Removable storage: you're given 64GB of internal storage. The other edition is 16GB which isn't really produced as oneplus is producing 64gb due to a popular demand. $299 vs $349. That's a difference of $50. Take a look at other companies and see how they would charge for a extra internal storage for 16 to 64. Oneplus could have cheap out and gave us 32gb for 349 and 64gb for $449. Anyways to get to the point, the phone has 64gb of internal storage, storage is not a problem what so ever. Would it be nice to have a sdcard? Sure but it's not a deal breaker.
Oneplus is already selling the phone cheap as it is, they're barely making a profit and you want them to put more features after they gave you 64gb? Come on now.
Removable battery: technically any phone has a removable battery if you just take it out. Oneplus had swapstyle covers that shows you that. The back of the phone isn't the easiest thing to take off but it's possible to do. From a design perspective, it'd be pretty difficult to have the sand stone black and back design that the oneplus already have to include a removable back that is easy.
The same idea of removable storage can be applied to the battery. Would it be nice to have? Yes. But if it doesn't have it, it's not a deal breaker as we're already given 64gb of internal storage and 3100 mah battery. Oneplus one has the best battery life on the phone market right now. At its given price point of $349 the oneplus one is a steal if you received a invite. Given some effort, you can get a invite within hours on various social networks / forums.

if you are on a budget I will say the OnePlus is the best bang for your buck. Honestly like others have mentioned you will only hear about the bad and not enough good stories but I will be honest with you. I am nowhere disappointed in my purchase of this phone and hopefully neither will your if you purchase it.
Alot of things are overrated in my opinion. No need to remove a battery if the one you havve last you all day. No need to have extra storage if you have a good data plan and use the cloud. I am coming from a 16gb N4 that I placed all my music in Google Music and my apps in dropbox, drive and other various cloud storage.
Dont fill your phone up with crap and believe me this phone with camera, storage and best battery in the game will make you a happy individual

Just curious out of the people who have this phone. After ordering how long did it take to ship?

I think it depends which of the phones you can get your hands on. After my Nexus 5 has been replaced 3 times under warranty I am starting to care more and more about that kind of support as well.

timmaaa said:
If you're lucky you might get a great OnePlus One? Come on, that's bs. The truth is, if you're really unlucky you might get a bad one.
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i know you are right. but it's that i have ben talking to a developer. and he didnt recomande me the phone. (guess he had a bad one) and asked him again 1month later how its going he sayed don' buy u aint gonna love it....
that the thing. i know he knows what he says but yeah, xiaomi mi3 is a bit boring. i mean 5" no lte. and only miui or a AOSP rom. noting more. cause no kernel sources yet...
and the oneplus is almost the same size as the xiaomi (xiaomi mi3 is as big as a xperia z1. just a bit smaller)
so yeah. the thing is. okay maybe i will get lucky but i dont like to know that maybe im gonna get a phone with touchscreen isues.. i hate that. thats going to make me smash the phone.... i already had problems with touchscreen and i almost trew the phone on the ground.
so if i get one i want to be sure i will have a touchscreeen that works. and doesn't make me mad!

reggiexp said:
i know you are right. but it's that i have ben talking to a developer. and he didnt recomande me the phone. (guess he had a bad one) and asked him again 1month later how its going he sayed don' buy u aint gonna love it....
that the thing. i know he knows what he says but yeah, xiaomi mi3 is a bit boring. i mean 5" no lte. and only miui or a AOSP rom. noting more. cause no kernel sources yet...
and the oneplus is almost the same size as the xiaomi (xiaomi mi3 is as big as a xperia z1. just a bit smaller)
so yeah. the thing is. okay maybe i will get lucky but i dont like to know that maybe im gonna get a phone with touchscreen isues.. i hate that. thats going to make me smash the phone.... i already had problems with touchscreen and i almost trew the phone on the ground.
so if i get one i want to be sure i will have a touchscreeen that works. and doesn't make me mad!
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Don't tell people not to buy the phone off the back of one guy's bad experience. If you do some research you'll find that touchscreen issues have been solved with a ts driver update (for those very few people that had problems).
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Htc u ultra pre orders

I've just pre ordered blue version from cpw UK for £649.00.
Samsung fans will call me crazy but I'm currently using S7 Edge blue coral colour and I'm still hating touchwiz. Love the phone though.
My reasons for buying HTC U ULTRA are many and there are few cons.
I'm a sucker for big screens I think minimum for me is 5.7".
QHD and love the second screen.
4gb ram is ok obviously would have loved 6gb.
I wonder if many are considering buying HTC U ULTRA?

I was quietly waiting for HTC to release the price but I've been left disappointed. I really can't see how the Ultra justifies a £649 price tag. Something closer to £500 would have been more reasonable IMO.

I don't think it's going to be a big seller, shame I think timing is awful. Should have realeased this around Dec, could have charged that much then.
I do agree it's bit expensive ideally should have been around 550.00 max.

I've just pre-ordered mine on contract, hope that this is as good as my (lost) HTC 10!

riz157 said:
I've just pre ordered blue version from cpw UK for £649.00.
Samsung fans will call me crazy but I'm currently using S7 Edge blue coral colour and I'm still hating touchwiz. Love the phone though.
My reasons for buying HTC U ULTRA are many and there are few cons.
I'm a sucker for big screens I think minimum for me is 5.7".
QHD and love the second screen.
4gb ram is ok obviously would have loved 6gb.
I wonder if many are considering buying HTC U ULTRA?
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You forgot about the fact that you are abandoning an AMOLED screen. Using LCD will be hard for you.

borisb said:
You forgot about the fact that you are abandoning an AMOLED screen. Using LCD will be hard for you.
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I actually quite like Super LCD so no concerns there for me.

I didn't pre-ordered my next 10th HTC yet, the U Ultra (Black) of course. Need to sell my HTC 10 before
5.7" is perfect for me. The phone I kept the longuest (2 years) was the One Max and its 5.9" screen. The HTC 10 is just perfect, but the small 5.2" screen.

Howling Wolf said:
I didn't pre-ordered my next 10th HTC yet, the U Ultra (Black) of course. Need to sell my HTC 10 before
5.7" is perfect for me. The phone I kept the longuest (2 years) was the One Max and its 5.9" screen. The HTC 10 is just perfect, but the small 5.2" screen.
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What is so great about it that you are going to buy the ultra?

borisb said:
What is so great about it that you are going to buy the ultra?
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The main reason I'm going to buy the U Ultra is its 5.7" screen.
Next I know I'll retrieve what I love about my 10: responsiveness, excellent sound and photo. Everything the U Ultra has over the 10 is bonus.
Does this answer your question ? I could go more detailed if needed
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I remember well when the One Max was announced, it was almost shot in flammes because it was "just" a supersized One M7: too big, same SD SoC,... Why hadn't HTC put, six months later, the next SD, and blah blah blah...
I had then the One M7 and most happy with it, but I couldn't resist the One Max 5.9" screen for movies and web surfing, and I switched for the better. I kept it for 2 years. I remember my colleagues from the beginning, wondering I was doing with such a big phone, in the end most of the time a bit jealous for the comfort it provided.
The One Max hadn't OIS when the One M7 had it, but no big deal for me.
I sold it a colleague, a woman (yes!), and the One Max is still alive and kicking
I hoped the 10 would be bigger, but I bought it nevertheless and enjoying it until I receive the U Ultra

Howling Wolf said:
The main reason I'm going to buy the U Ultra is its 5.7" screen.
Next I know I'll retrieve what I love about my 10: responsiveness, excellent sound and photo. Everything the U Ultra has over the 10 is bonus.
Does this answer your question ? I could go more detailed if needed
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I remember well when the One Max was announced, it was almost shot in flammes because it was "just" a supersized One M7: too big, same SD SoC,... Why hadn't HTC put, six months later, the next SD, and blah blah blah...
I had then the One M7 and most happy with it, but I couldn't resist the One Max 5.9" screen for movies and web surfing, and I switched for the better. I kept it for 2 years. I remember my colleagues from the beginning, wondering I was doing with such a big phone, in the end most of the time a bit jealous for the comfort it provided.
The One Max hadn't OIS when the One M7 had it, but no big deal for me.
I sold it a colleague, a woman (yes!), and the One Max is still alive and kicking
I hoped the 10 would be bigger, but I bought it nevertheless and enjoying it until I receive the U Ultra
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In that case why don't you buy the LG G6? It has the same 5.7 screen (with Dolby Vision) and its a much much smaller dimensions (a whole 1 centimeter smaller in height).
It will also probably going to be $100 cheaper.
If you want a dual camera OIS added to the mix you can always get the Huawei P10 plus with the kirin 960 (which is more powerful then SD the 821), and has 6GB of ram.
Not to mention that the above have a 3.5 mm jack.
I cancelled my pre order in the US today.
I am very disappointing that HTC could not bring a winning device this year. Honestly I would not pay more then $550 for it while the pre order was for $810 (plus tax).
The ultra does not have the boom sound speakers anymore. If they only chose an AMOLED screen (as they did with the pixel), and added the 3.5 jack, I could ignore the size of the phone and the price could be justified.
I will wait for a device that can give me the whole package, and I think that some of the new ones could give me that (have you seen the new Sony? )

borisb said:
In that case why don't you buy the LG G6? It has the same 5.7 screen (with Dolby Vision) and its a much much smaller dimensions (a whole 1 centimeter smaller in height).
It will also probably going to be $100 cheaper.
If you want a dual camera OIS added to the mix you can always get the Huawei P10 plus with the kirin 960 (which is more powerful then SD the 821), and has 6GB of ram.
Not to mention that the above have a 3.5 mm jack.
I cancelled my pre order in the US today.
I am very disappointing that HTC could not bring a winning device this year. Honestly I would not pay more then $550 for it while the pre order was for $810 (plus tax).
The ultra does not have the boom sound speakers anymore. If they only chose an AMOLED screen (as they did with the pixel), and added the 3.5 jack, I could ignore the size of the phone and the price could be justified.
I will wait for a device that can give me the whole package, and I think that some of the new ones could give me that (have you seen the new Sony? )
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As you surely noticed in my sig, I'm an HTC addict, I won't go for another brand. I love the Sense UI from back to the Desire HD.
Speaking of sound, I don't listen to anything aloud very often, but I listen to a lot of music ans what a lot of movies and tv shows: the HTC 10 is perfect in this respect, and the U Ultra should be even better
Look at the HTC support page, the U Ultra does have boomsound speakers!
The SD 821 will more than enough for what I'll do with it, as I don't play games on my phones.
OIS on the back camera is enough for me. I have OIS on the front one of my 10, I'm not really a selphie addict.
If HTC really disappear some time ahead, I do hope that the very last HTC I own will last as long as possible.
One last thought, you don't really like/love HTC, do you ?

Howling Wolf said:
As you surely noticed in my sig, I'm an HTC addict, I won't go for another brand. I love the Sense UI from back to the Desire HD.
Speaking of sound, I don't listen to anything aloud very often, but I listen to a lot of music ans what a lot of movies and tv shows: the HTC 10 is perfect in this respect, and the U Ultra should be even better
Look at the HTC support page, the U Ultra does have boomsound speakers!
The SD 821 will more than enough for what I'll do with it, as I don't play games on my phones.
OIS on the back camera is enough for me. I have OIS on the front one of my 10, I'm not really a selphie addict.
If HTC really disappear some time ahead, I do hope that the very last HTC I own will last as long as possible.
One last thought, you don't really like/love HTC, do you ?
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I had a few HTC devices (starting the nexus one), but in the past couple of years I was going for the One Plus devices and tried a few Samsung ones.
In my mind the HTC UX and system responsiveness was always the best. I did not see a phone as smooth and the Pixel is an absolute gem (made by HTC).
The reason I stopped buying HTC is the screen size.
As far as the sense UI. I don't have about that. I don't use widgets and have a bought version of the Nova Launcher.
I owned the LG V20 (and gave it to my wife since she absolutely loved the photo quality). The second screen is a gimik and I just turned it off. I think I would have done the same with the Ultra.
Samsung phones are *crap* wrapped in an AMOLED + Amazing camera shell and I swore not to buy it anymore.
The $400 phones are great but after owning the note 7, I can say that I want a good camera phone. You cannot find a good camera at the OP3T or the AXON 7 even though they try (axon has a samsung sensor and the OP has a sony sensor).
I am a very heavy earphone user. I have them on all the time and I always buy new ones (cause I lose them everywhere) so a phone without a 3.5 jack means I have to adjust heavily to the fact that I need to buy an adapter or start buying $50+ Bluetooth sets (and I really don't want to do that).
That brings me to the G6. It has a smaller body (by 0.9 centimeters- which is a lot). A better LCD screen, IP rating and the camera of V20 (which is amazing but worse then the Ultra's).
It has a 3.5 Jack and it will be cheaper then the Ultra.
Dont get me wrong, I hate LG! My wife had the LG g3 and LG g4 for the past two years (before the V20) and those phones worked like a charm till the last day (with no case since she hates them).
But I still hated them- the bloatware is horrible, the UX is stupid and they are just unexciting.
I might try the P10 plus with the leica lenses.

Bought the U ULTRA and perfectly happy with it

Allesa said:
Bought the U ULTRA and perfectly happy with it
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Where are you ?
Where and when did you buy it ?
Which liquid color ?
Your very 1st impressions/ feelings about it ?
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Allesa said:
Bought the U ULTRA and perfectly happy with it
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Tell us more.
Is the size an issue?

Howling Wolf said:
Please some more details...
Where are you ?
Where and when did you buy it ?
Which liquid color ?
Your very 1st impressions/ feelings about it ?
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Hi Howling Wolf
Something for you :
- my first impressions : http://www.forum-generationmobiles.net/t79157-info-htc-u-ultra-play
- test : http://www.frandroid.com/marques/412702_test-du-htc-u-ultra-un-double-ecran-ingenieux-et-des-performances-au-top#utm_source=forumfrandroid&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=related_via_topic
Sorry, it's in French.
I bought it last week in Germany (Saturn)., in black.

Thanks, I'm French
The test is not serious...
You confirm that the main screen is very bright (as always with HTC) !
I don't really care for the U Ultra back design, I'll put the clear case at once, the liquid color shouldn't be lessened too much and that'll be just fine.
Thanks for your impressions.
I may have to wait until April to buy it though

Mine is being delivered tomorrow from cpw, nice surprise. Was expecting it friday.

I got a notification from Vodafone for a sim switch today, hoping cpw will call for the pick up tomorrow

Howling Wolf said:
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Where are you ?
Where and when did you buy it ?
Which liquid color ?
Your very 1st impressions/ feelings about it ?
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I'm living in Indonesia, got the phone from my supplier in Singapore(I have an online store). Selling it for around USD 675 at my store
I got it a exactly a week ago.
First impressions:
Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous.
Of course I got the blue sapphire one and it looks awesome, especially with lights reflecting off it. It gives shades and colour gradation like no other phones when bouncing off its curved back. Had people noticing my phone several times now.
This thing is smooth, very smooth
Love the LCD.
Have been a fan of LCD over amoled. It's sharp, colour saturation is good, images are lifelike. Also, sunlight readability have been great compared to htc 10.
Tried the v20 and the light bleed were awful from the second screen (inside a dark room, very low brightness) On the U Ultra it's far better.
Camera is AWESOME.
Had pixel XL for about two months before selling it. The price I had to get it on this part of the world was unreasonable (1075usd 128 xl). Had a hard time justifying that kind of money in my pocket. As I recall, this camera matches the pixel's easily and with manual control it is perfect. Will play more with the camera later.
Battery life is beyond expectations
I thought the battery would be very sucky considering 3000mah had to power qhd screen+2nd screen. Apparently it holds up pretty well. On all day Wifi it reaches almost 7 hours SOT. I'm testing mixed use today switching between WiFi and LTE (bad Lte connections here in Indonesia btw) as I go.
Speaker is similar to htc 10 if not better
Have not tried the USB C earphone I don't use earphones a lot. Which is why I don't really care the loss of 3.5mm headphone jack. I listen to music on my car via Bluetooth.
Size is perfect for me. I came from Huawei mate 9.
The included case scratch easily, I suspect the glass back scratch easier.
Too bad this phone doesn't create enough hype. Really have a hard time selling it on my store
A bit about me: I sell phones, and usually I tried every flagship I sold before I sell them. No brand fanboyism whatsoever.
Bottom line is this phone is really good, however I should've been released early December 2016 not today as all we've seen in the news are plethora of 2017 phones coming out with very slim bezels, new chipsets, dual cameras, waterproof, etc. I know that's not possible otherwise people would've had a hard time justifying buying pixel xl lol. Google would be outraged.
Any other stuff u guys would like to know?

Realistic options for a replacement to the Moto X Pure

So I am getting sick of the battery life of this device and charging twice a day just to get by... the QC helps but it isn't always a viable option for someone who is on the road/travels a lot. I am probably going to go back to my Moto G 2015 for the time being as I could get a full days use most of the time on a single charge and just selling my MXPE.
But now the question comes up as what to replace it with... Moto G 5th gen, Blu Pure XR, ZTE Axon 7 Mini, or ???
My requirements are simple, or so I think...
1) 4+ hours SOT, preferably 5+, in mixed signal environment of WiFi/LTE/3G and sometimes without the best signal strength (for reference, I currently get about 2.5 hours on MXPE)
2) 5.2"-5.7" screen with 1080p minimum resolution
3) Stock Android, "near" stock, or simple UI (no TouchWiz, EMUI, ZenUI, or other bloated UI) that allows easy use of replacement launcher
4) 64GB internal storage or 32GB internal+microSD
5) 3GB or more of RAM
6) Full AT&T network compatibility (GSM 850/1900 and LTE Band 2/4/5/12/17 and optionally 29/30)
7) Nougat or Marshmallow with a Nougat upgrade "guaranteed"
8) 3.5mm headphone jack
9) Dual band WiFi - 2.4 & 5Ghz
10) $300USD or less
Would be nice, but not essential...
1) Unlockable bootloader (implies root/custom recovery/ROM development community)
2) Front facing speakers
3) NFC
4) USB 3.0
Absolute no no's are Samsung, Asus, or Huawei/Honor devices.
What else fits these requirements that I am not considering?

I believe the one phone that comes to mind that would fit most of your requirements is the Axon. I took a break from the MXPE (when it flew off my roof and died a horrible death in a rain storm) and had the Axon 7 (normal size) for about a month. You will get NEAR 4 hours of SoT, a qhd screen, 5.5 inches, relatively light for metal body. Unlockable bootloader and decent dev for it, last I checked. Things that bothered me/ pissed me off were that DTTW was laggy and slow, the actual cell service seemed to be really bad, possibly because of the full metal body phone, and the biggest annoyance - no backlit capacitive buttons, so you were left sort of blind in the dark trying to hit buttons. There is also no way through the build.prop to enable the on-screen buttons to bypass the issue at night, last I checked.
LG V20 could be an option too since it has a bootloader unlock now, 3.5-4.5 hours of SoT. I think it has a bottom bezel speaker though, which is a little weird, and as always the LG software has complaints. The dev is good enough to get around that though.
I'm in the same boat as you though. I've been looking pretty hard to find a new phone and the V20 is the only one I am really considering right now.

Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot

datchico305 said:
Get the OnePlus 3T it meets all your needs I get easily 6 to 7 HR sot
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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal

This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.

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This phone has been a little disappointing. It's good, but definitely not great. It's a night and day difference from the Galaxy S3 I was using, but I wish I had held out a little longer for the SD 820 phones instead of buying in 2015.
It sounds like you've already got a pretty inclusive list for phones that are sold in the US and meet your requirements.
I just checked swappa, and if you're willing to go used, the OnePlus 3 is starting to get down towards the price point you're looking for. It has the same size battery as the MXP, and between the more efficient SoC than this godawful 808/810 generation and an FHD AMOLED I'd think you should get better screen on time out of it. It's a OnePlus so it has loads of good development, so you'll have all kinds of kernel/rom/tweaking available to really squeeze every erg out of it.
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That actually could be an option... I will investigate further.

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Would love to... tell me where I can get a new OP3T for under $300... That one is a hard stop requirement.
@xgerryx Same for LG V20 and Axon 7 (which never goes on sale, although the Mini does often), the $300 price point is a big deal
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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.

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If you happen to be SUPER interested in the V20, I have seen some go for like 310-320 on Swappa in good to mint condition. You gotta hound the seller though and keep track of it all damn day for when the price drops. Not an awesome experience but I'm waiting for the same thing myself.
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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol

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I'm not really interested... TBH, my experience with non-Nexus LG Android devices has been... well... lets just say less then wonderful.
Although I would have to say that the LG enV from years ago probably ranks up there as my favorite phone of all time, back when you could actually get DAYS of usage out of a cell phone on a single charge. I remember I would charge it twice a week. lol
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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.

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Yea I agree. After my terrible experience with the buggy LG G4, I'm very skeptical about going back again. At the same time I am running out of companies to try out! Haha. Gotta circle back eventually, especially on Verizon.
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NEVER AGAIN!!! I refuse to drop $140 plus taxes and fees (realistically $160) for the service level I get now for $72 per month. Plus the limitations on devices, I would have to buy at least one new phone and/or go under contract. Nope, not happening. (Can you tell I have a grudge against Verizon, lol)

I would look around swappa for a OnePlus 3 or 3t it's worth it no bugs lag free and monthly updates it's already on nougat 7.1.1 and the beta builds they offer are great as well and development is great lots of greats ROMs and kernels and unlocking bootloader will not void warranty

TBH...I think you will have a hard time meeting all of your requirements right now. The market looks pretty dismal which is very unfortunate. I personally will hold out a little longer. I'm really looking hard at what Nokia/HMD are coming up with and hoping their roadmap for US devices includes a mid range device soon. So far their line up seems decent and if they are true to their word about expedient updates for Android, and they will sell devices with unlockable bootloaders at decent prices, I'll be sold.

moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow

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moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Like @acejavelin stated, Samsung is not an option, and I agree with him. Yes they have great hardware for the most part, but a less powerful processor running vanilla, our near vanilla Android will run just as well considering the lack of heavy handed UX. I will admit the phone looks great hardware and looks wise, but I personally don't like the look and feel of Samsung TW.

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moving to a galaxy s8 plus, comes tomorrow
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Sammie's are to bloated... Every Samsung devices we have ever had has been problematic... Hope you enjoy yours though but I would never spend that kind of money on a phone.

I have a moto g5 plus as well, its pretty good. It's fast and smooth. Screen and camera are good too, but obviously not as good as the X style.

Yes mxpe battery sucks. I have to charge 2-3 times a day and am not even a heavy user. I know its more than your actual budget but better wait, save a bit more and probably the price will drop also and go for a OP 3T.

i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
there are barely very less phones which have dual front facing speakers.. market has got very saturated.. all look for flagship but they just don't think that having a good speakers is also a part of flagship project!
as per my personal opinion... this phone is just the best phone ive ever used (till 2015) but in upcoming era you will see more and more features
i will recommend you to wait and not hurry up to get a phone...
if you need a pure stock surely get nexus but just wait for new nexus phone.. maybe they might consider it as a flagship and the value might be cheap??
anyways if you're just asking for all the requirements my opinion (AXON 7) not just only for dual front facing speakers but also for the processor(sd 820),storage(64gb,6gb ram) expandable ovbio (256gb)
plot twist: has hybrid sim XD
but im legit that it'll be upgraded to android 'O'
but it cost around $350
think man.. public reviews are also good
it meets all the requirements but is as costly as mxpe

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i know your problem man.. but why don't you wait for a nougat update?? why not? maybe they might fix up the battery drain issue!
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Nougat can't "fix" our battery issue... Radio and display panel are hardware issues and that's where 75% of all battery drain is. It isn't even issues, it's just how much power they use normally. The SD808's radios are terribly inefficient, and the display panel uses more power than some small towns. If you think Nougat is going to noticably improve active use time, your kidding yourself.
To be honest, I might just pull my old Nexus 5 out if the drawer and switch to it... The battery life can't be much worse.
The sound aspect is less important. FF speakers are nice, but as long as I can hear a YouTube video in an average room and turn the ringer up enough u don't care.
I bought the MXPE as an upgrade to my G 2015 and it was on sale for under $250, and for the most part it is, I just didn't realize how bad the battery was, it is easily half of my G.

I got Axon 7 after X and can't be happier. I've had the A7 since August. Has the front speakers i wanted, nice beautiful Samsung screen. Battery is definitely better then X. Software was buggy at the beginning but they have improved it a lot. Axon 7 has been getting a lot of updates, doesn't mean it'll continue, we were the 1st ones to receive 7.0 with the exception of Google devices, and we are the only ones so far (afaik) to receive 7.1.1 with also the exception of Google devices.
It has its flaws but i love the phone. For the money you can't beat it. It's on sale now on newegg for $330.