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Hi,
I need help choosing a new PPC.
With Android available and WM seemingly not keeping up I am not sure I should stay devoted to WM.
I have been a WM user for years (Blackjack, Kaiser) and here's what I enjoy about the platform.
>Modification (Love to tweak reg etc)
>Exchange Sync (Calendar, notes, and contacts not email at this time)
>Apps (Bittorrent, good browser? I don't really care about flash but its fun to have )
>Office Mobile Pro (Is there a Open Office for Android or other *.doc *.xcl editors?)
Is Android an option for a universal user (business minded with pleasure added)
My criteria
I would prefer a hardware keyboard as I have never used anything else and think the switch to a touch screen keyboard would be painful as I enjoy the tactile feel of a button and a qwerty keyboard. Is the switch hard, does the onscreen keyboard minimize what you can see on the screen or other quirks or if I was at home would a blue-tooth keyboard be an option etc..?
Good Stereo BT (still stack issues? with both?)
Wifi
Wifi hot spot
4g (I live in Bethlehem/Allentown Pa 40 minutes north of philly and 50 minutes south of NYC, its not available yet but this area is stuck in the middle)
Carrier isn't an issue, I will go with any.
Cost is not an issue.
HTC fan but it doesn't really matter.
Gyro whats? d.n.a. or should it?
Gps? d.n.a
thanks for reading and hope you can help
Well you are in the middle of Verizon country. The X is looking pretty nifty as well as the Incredible. I am so far from my 2yr. (may 2011 ) But you can play with them for 30 days and decide.
good day.
Thank you for your reply.
I am a little confused on the being in Verizon country comment though since I just moved here so...
Special circumstances...
I work a 6 day week @ 65 hrs plus driving time + 6hrs (thats a bicycle actually) so my time is very limited and getting to a store is harder than it should and why I was asking for help and purchase something online instead making it very hard to return or physically try before.
I have a mini-laptop so maybe exchange sync isnt that important but not having a hardware keyboard does make a difference as well as moving to android, scary.
kltsin said:
Thank you for your reply.
I am a little confused on the being in Verizon country comment though since I just moved here so...
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With all the traveling I have ever done on the east coast service was always better than my home town. Just always seemed to be VZW heavy in that part of the country.
I myself am going to wait to see how the WP7 pans out being a winmo guy myself.
First I would edit the title of your post to recommend a device or something to that nature.
Next check the sites of carriers for devices offered. I would find it real hard to get a device without having it in my hand. And speaking from experience any carrier's corporate locations are much better to deal with than an "authorized retailer".
Also THIS SITE has a lot of great videos and current device reviews.
good luck in the hunt.
good day.
Again Thank you, I don't know what happened to my title....
I bought my at&t tilt from just reading reviews and satisfied 100% percent with what I expected except its weight.
I am going to have great service from any company because where I live as I stated prior. Though my blackjacks radio was strong the phone wasn't very loud voice wise and both wm devices (the tilt) had a terrible time with my different stereo bluetooth headsets when it came to calls but music never had an issue.
I paid for allot of software for wm as well and hate to see them go to waste, (Resco explorer, yes I bought Opera mobile too pre beta/pre knowing about cooked roms...), but if droid can do the same with no need then it doesnt matter.
Keyboard and office Mobile and bluetooth are still an issue I have to consider with help hopefully.
Well I have been using a wm device since the 8125 and hve had most of the HTC wm phones available up to and including the tilt 2. Along the way I did see lots of growth and customization on this OS. we also saw improvements and new features along the way, however we also saw a lot of issues. With each new phone and or update to the OS I prayed that maybe they got this one right. I was almost always disappointed, sometimes things just would not work. Sure wm devices had the best feAtures but what good are they if they aren't reliable?
I spend months customizing my phones and you can do this on android, just not to the extent thAT you could with wm, But everything works.
I have had slide out keyboards for years, and tilting screens to boot, for the last 2 years or so, so I am still getting used to this on screen kb, but its easier than I thought it would be.
Also getting all of your outlook info synced with android is proving to not be straight forward. Not to mention all the calendar options seems a little confusing and lacking, but I just got my evo 2 weeks ago.
The gps and Google maps and navigation that were built into my phone seems much faster and accurate then my experience with past phones, I get a fix in less than one second everytime.
I wasn't going to let myself get talked into wm7, there's lots of reasons why it might be the worse wm to date, but all my info on wm7 is second hand. I loved my tilt 2, I never stopped customizing it and I still want to use it, but I am going to make my self forget about it and give this evo a shot, love the screen BTW.
On a side note, android doesn't seem to support Bluetooth keyboards wich is a huge setback for me. I'm on the road a lot too and I put a lot of effort into making my mobile devices replace my laptops.
Way off point, but I bet us power users users get more work done on these mobile devices than the averAge desktop user, and its kinda nice.
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I see the droid 2 has a hardware qwerty keyboard...?
I am to tired to think after nearly 70 hr work weeks and trying to grasp each of these devices.. Reviewing allot of devices
On a side note I see the 2 year plan requirements, does that have to include the unlimited data, at&t screwed us on that one (Iphone users got theirs for $29 per month and all other smartphones were $10 bucks more) now they changed their data plans...
Hello everyone,
I just lost my HTC Desire to my sister, since her Nokia 6630 lost its live just about a day ago.
She just grab my Desire and leaving my SIM-card behind. (Stupid is, she knows my all of my password and pin numbers on that phone...I guess she was spying on me for quite some time)...well...she did play the games inside my Desire...a LOT!!
I am really stupid!
Well...She talks more than I do on the phone...so...I guess I have to accept that..I am busy writing my master work at this moment...and I don't wanna have a fight with her ...not at his point of time...(I assume she knew that too).
The problem is, I don't have enough money to get a good smartphone which can match my "previous" Desire. Legend, Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab, etc. are way too expensive for me right now,
and HTC Wildfire can not meet my expectation.
Well...I can still make phone calls with my ..stupid Nokia 1800...It is juts...something big is obviously missing on that pile of plastic..
Now, I am thinking of getting an Archos 70 8GB Internet tablet, which will be there soon enough.
It will cost about the same price as Wildfire, but with more capabilities (at least according to the spesification).
So..I think...perhaps, I can use that along with my (stupid) Nokia 1800 Phone.
but, the thing is...I have never used anything from Archos before.
Can anyone post your experience using Archos previous Android tablets?
Is the company any good by the customer service?
Anything?
Pleaseeeeeee......
Hmmm...still no replies for days in this forum and several others, which I have posted...
Even my closest friends don't even have a single experience on Archos...
Perhaps I should rethink about getting a tablet PC from Archos.
Check out archosfans.com if you want to talk to people who are familiar with the brand. I had portable archos mp3/media players back before ipods became the standard, but I haven't used their products in quite a few years. The newest android tablets are interesting, especially since they're considerably less expensive than ipads and gtabs, but until I get a chance to hold one I'll refrain from any judgments.
Considering that the newer tablets coming out by Archos are Android, I would love to see xda development for them and eventually a section for Android tablets.
TS
Get a orange san francisco, 512mb ram, 800x480 oled screen, 2.1 pre loaded and a custom 2.2 rom available, also its unlockable for less than £5.
Archos's new Android tablet line is coming out as we speak. I just received word that mine was shipped today, so it should be here tomorrow ... I pre-ordered a 101 tablet.
I hope that xda development will come on this as it takes off (apparently there were too many pre-orders made that many sites shut down the possibility)
I am a first-time buyer of their products, so i can't comment on their customer service level .. and actually not on their product quality either.
but I'll be happy to report back once I get my hands on it tomorrow
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
aaa said:
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
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Hmm...experience...LeeDroid you mean?
My impression until now :
Somehow faster than stock ROM, apps are installable to SDCard (most important), Desire proc become OC-able (not doing it), stable, slight improvement in battery live, still has Sense (third important), DSP manager become available (second important), performance gain for 3D games (fourth important) .
I like also the Desire HD rom (RCMixHD), but too bad that the camera is not working and I went back to LeeDroid.
I wanna try several other roms but I will play with LeeDroid for the time being first.
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
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I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
havnet played with it yet :/
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actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
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The archos doesn't support ad-hoc wifi networks, so just make sure if your device creates an "ad-hoc" network, then it can't connect
However bluetooth tether works (I still have a g1 and I'm bluetooth tethering to my A70)
I have an HTC EVO also and I got an Archos 10.1. I had a previous Archos MP3/Video player from way back. Can you tell me since my phone is not rooted is there anyway I can tether. Goling to Vegas in a couple weeks and room doesn't have wifi. They have free internet but no wifi. I need to tether with Archos off EVO and Vegas has 4G which I don't have yet. Thanks,
digibucc said:
well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
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I was told PDA Net didn't do Android to Android but I heard there is some free wireless tether for non rooted phones but I don't know if it will work Archos to EVO. I replied to a post above and didn't finish reading where someone kind of asked the same thing. Sorry!
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Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
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Hello,
I've had my Sensation Z710e (on 3UK) for two days now, and I am fairly impressed, after coming from the HD2 for three years.
With my "unlimited" data package, and my new ASUS Transformer arriving shortly, I'd like to tether the phone to the tablet. USB is the defacto choice, but should I not wish to use teh cable, I was wondering if I could have your opinions on which method of wireless tether is most efficient, thinking in terms of battery drain, etc.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Drkmtr
I'd go with WiFi tethering. As far as I know, BT tethering is slower.
How do you use bluetooth tether?? i dont see an option for it.
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Hello,
after coming from the HD2 for three years.
Drkmtr
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Didn't realise HD2 has been out 3 years? Thought it came out December 2009
Hi,
I have been here for a while now and am at the point where I have a great relationship with my transformer and my phone (although fussy at times).
I have a stock TF101 32GB with latest updates.
My phone is Omni2 with WM6.5 and I run WMwifiRouter using Bluetooth to tether for internet when I'm out (a little cumbersome, but once setup it works well).
Question: I am at my upgrade date (Verizon) and am thinking about upgrading my phone.
I'd like to be able to do the same tethering (obviously without paying the $30/mo. tether fee as I don't now) or better and I need a phone that can sync with my Outlook (just calendar, contacts, notes, etc) as I'll get my emails either on the phone or through the TF.
I have never rooted anything although I'm curious to give it a try after reading so many posts here.
Any thoughts are appreciated - the input is always great!
Well with a custom ROM you usually automatically get portable hotspots unlocked without the plan.
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Last week I talked the guy that takes care of our cell phone plan at our company to switch me from a HTC Touch Pro II running WM6.5 (that I rooted so I could tether my Transformer) to a HTC EVO running Android 2.3.
I am SO greatfull to finally be on an Android phone!!!! Of course out of the box it is $30 a month for HotSpot support but tethering with a cable works well. I haven't tried a bluetooth tether yet. I will be rooting the EVO soon to get free hotspot support.
I really miss the slide out keyboard of the Touch Pro II but love the extra screen realestate on the EVO! I have very fat big fingers and have problems with touch screen typing. The big EVO was not as bad as I was expecting for texting because of its big screen but it is not nearly as good as a physical keyboard. I ordered a pocketable blue tooth keyboard for under $20 which I will try. Another caveat of the EVO is pretty dismal battery life... so I ordered a $65 3500ma battery to improve that although it will make the sleek phone quite a bit more clunky. My first choice over an EVO would have been the ASUS Padphone... http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/11/01/asus-padfone-gets-a-launch-date-the-long-rumored-asus-padfone-part-tablet-part-smartphone-looks-to-make-an-appearance-in-stores-early-next-year/ but it is not even available yet!
I can't express how happy I am to finally be rid of Windows Mobile!!!! Our cell phone guy showed me the super new and cool WM7... and showed me how much better it is!!!! But that is what they said when they upgraded me from from a HTC Touch with WM6.0 to the Touch Pro II... I will be giving up support for Microsoft Lync but the HTC Microsoft exchange connector works well.
I really love the UI on the Android... SO MUCH better than the awful WM interface. The best part is being able to install most (android 2.3 vs 3.2) all my favorite android apps on my phone!
...and I am a .Net developer which kind of means Microsoft is crucial for putting food on my table!
I have used both wifi and BT tether with my Droid X and TF101. Both work well. However I have given up on tethering as the carriers are now tracking "free users" and there are rumors of some people getting either terminated, or $1k data usage bills. Verizon has never charged me for tethering, but to me it's not worth the risk anymore.
So just be aware.
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I have used both wifi and BT tether with my Droid X and TF101. Both work well. However I have given up on tethering as the carriers are now tracking "free users" and there are rumors of some people getting either terminated, or $1k data usage bills. Verizon has never charged me for tethering, but to me it's not worth the risk anymore.
So just be aware.
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I always love these "BEWARE" post... I think it would be better to say, "USE Common Sense"!
If I am reading XDA post on my HTC Incredible or on my ASUS Transformer via WiFi Tether.. it is using the same amount of Bandwidth and Verizon is non-the-wiser.
It is folks that tether a PC and download Terra-bytes of Data from Peer-to-Peer sites like Piratebay that stand out like a Hore in church on Sunday.
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I always love these "BEWARE" post... I think it would be better to say, "USE Common Sense"!
If I am reading XDA post on my HTC Incredible or on my ASUS Transformer via WiFi Tether.. it is using the same amount of Bandwidth and Verizon is non-the-wiser.
It is folks that tether a PC and download Terra-bytes of Data from Peer-to-Peer sites like Piratebay that stand out like a Hore in church on Sunday.
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I agree wholeheartedly!
I have my Transformer setup to sync with my works exchange. I have a G2x on Tmobile.
I use the built-in WiFi Tether, that Verizon loves to remove... but like was said, any custom rom will have that back in.
Just do your homework first on the tethering capabilities. Google's Galaxy Nexus is releasing on Verizon this month which will have straight Android and WiFi Tether should be intact regardless of Verizon's policies (it isn't straight android if Verizon screws with it). Plus the software and updates come from Google directly so you should be good. Being a developer phone, it'll get plenty of attention and updates are guaranteed.
Once it releases and I can read some hands on reviews, I'll probably trade up my work blackberry for it.
all android phones from I think 2.2 on came with hotspot so long as your phone isnt locked by the carrier. Most carriers remove it unless you pay for it so you either buy a sim free phone or flash a rom.
I struggled with my tablets tethering to my HTC Tilt2 running WinMo 6.5. Once I went with an Android HTC Inspire 4G things have always just worked fine. Go with the Android phone.
Getting this for my iPad2 and honestly haven't looked into many accessories for my TP. Worth looking into either way because I plan on using it for both: http://www.buy.com/prod/logitech-bl...new-ipad-1-2/221993833.html?sellerid=23093153
Sold out. How do you know it's compatible with the TP? It says ipoop1 and 2
Dang, was afraid of that... just checked my order status: "In processing". -.-
It doesn't state that it's Android compatible but it's bluetooth so it should work.
DNak206 said:
Dang, was afraid of that... just checked my order status: "In processing". -.-
It doesn't state that it's Android compatible but it's bluetooth so it should work.
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Wait? That's your response???
"but it's bluetooth so it should work."
Well, a pitchfork will do many things, some of them not what you want but still "compatible" in that sense. Not going down that rosy path of spending ~$30 for something that "may" work.
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Wait? That's your response???
"but it's bluetooth so it should work."
Well, a pitchfork will do many things, some of them not what you want but still "compatible" in that sense. Not going down that rosy path of spending ~$30 for something that "may" work.
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Why wouldn't it work, it's BT enabled? Besides, I have an ipad2 I'll use it with if not, pretty sure I mentioned that in my post. All the reviews I've read on it say it'll work with all Android tablets. Yes, that's my response. Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.
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Why wouldn't it work, it's BT enabled? Besides, I have an ipad2 I'll use it with if not, pretty sure I mentioned that in my post. All the reviews I've read on it say it'll work with all Android tablets. Yes, that's my response. Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.
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So, what you're saying is your useless recommendation for a touchpad is reinforced by the fact that you have an icrap and you'll use it for that, BUT you recommend it for a touchpad when you have absolutely NO clue if it will work with one?
Heck, I have a brick, I KNOW it will work with breaking a window, but I am pretty sure it will also let me possibly make oatmeal, you too should try it.
This is a useless recommendation. Yes, it WILL work with an icrap, but if you have absolutely NO idea it will work with an touchpad, don't make out as though it will. We have enough useless recommendations for hardware that simply never will nor has worked with this device.
BTW, icraps suck.
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So, what you're saying is your useless recommendation for a touchpad is reinforced by the fact that you have an icrap and you'll use it for that, BUT you recommend it for a touchpad when you have absolutely NO clue if it will work with one?
Heck, I have a brick, I KNOW it will work with breaking a window, but I am pretty sure it will also let me possibly make oatmeal, you too should try it.
This is a useless recommendation. Yes, it WILL work with an icrap, but if you have absolutely NO idea it will work with an touchpad, don't make out as though it will. We have enough useless recommendations for hardware that simply never will nor has worked with this device.
BTW, icraps suck.
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Feeling stupid that nearly ALL BT keyboards will work with this HP I see. Take your trolling elsewhere.
The vast majority of keyboards and mice out there will use bluetooth HID so they all use the same drivers and will work on Android or pretty much any OS. The HP WebOS Touchpad keyboard works fine in Android, Windows 7, etc because its HID.
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The vast majority of keyboards and mice out there will use bluetooth HID so they all use the same drivers and will work on Android or pretty much any OS. The HP WebOS Touchpad keyboard works fine in Android, Windows 7, etc because its HID.
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Thanks for the back up, looks like this guy just likes to play smart on the interwebz.
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Thanks for the back up, looks like this guy just likes to play smart on the interwebz.
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So, wait, a random person who hasn't received said keyboard, is backed up by another person who hasn't tried it with the TouchPad, and the both of you equal definitive proof that this thing will work with the TouchPad.
Good thing you both consider "me" the troll yet I'm sure there are plenty of bridges you'd gladly sell someone for cash up front and no deed.
The BT Human Interface profile is a standard so, theoretically, anything that complies should work.
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So, wait, a random person who hasn't received said keyboard, is backed up by another person who hasn't tried it with the TouchPad, and the both of you equal definitive proof that this thing will work with the TouchPad.
Good thing you both consider "me" the troll yet I'm sure there are plenty of bridges you'd gladly sell someone for cash up front and no deed.
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You OBVIOUSLY have not researched BT keyboards for your HP TP or you would already know this. Done with you dude, you tried to be a smarta$$ and fell on your face in doing so. No way out of it now.
This was sold out hours from my post, this can be closed. Thanks.
I have the Logitech tablet Keyboard for Android, and I tworks fine with the HP Touchpad, at least in Cyanogenmod9 (OaTs Mod).
The Tablet keyboard for iPad is the same hardware with some slightly different keys. The Android one has Home Back and Menu keys.
Overall, it is pretty nice as the keyboard cover doubles as a stand for your tablet.
And if anyone cares, You can pair the Razer Orochi the HP touchpad as well.
Not that I really ever expect there to be much issue with a standard Bluetooth HID mouse or keyboard.
Wow!!! I missed out on a sweet deal. I have been looking to buy one of these for a while.
Well, I did find one from Logitech (dented box deals) for few bucks more.
I plan on using it with my wife's Dell Streak 7 since I already have a BT keyboard from HP for the TP. As others mentioned, BT profile should allow this keyboard to be able to be used on most BT enabled tablets & devices.
FYI... the deal from Logitech is still available if anyone is interested.
They have it for $41.99...
Dented Box mean new / unsold items with damaged packaging... I have bought many "dented box" items and been perfectly fine.
Here is the link.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/promotional-items/devices/9954
BTW... I was real surprised to see how fast this thread turned ugly for no reason...
You can also pick them up new on Ebay for about $32 shipped