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Don't know if anyone caught this, but Verizon has launched an anti-iphone/anti-AT&T campaign, for the upcoming motorola droid. One of the commercials lists some of the things that the iphone doesn't do, but that their phone will do. Couldn't help but notice that a lot of these things the HTC dream already does. And a lot of other HTC winmo phones do. Plus I gotta say the anti-iphone angle made me smile.
Here's the ad: http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/17/verizons-anti-iphone-gets-its-first-commercial-droid-does/

Saw it today
I just saw that commercial too. Now I'm in a dilemma as to whether to wait for the Droid and see how it is, or go ahead and upgrade my Touch Pro to the Pro 2...

LMFAO That was great!

Excellent!!

I don't want this to turn into a commercial for the iphone but....
After being a loyal Verizon customer and windows mobile user for about 7 years, I finally got fed up with verizon and windows mobile cr*p..
Verizon
1) Charging about $20/month more than anyone else
2) Constantly nickle and dimeing me about this fee and that
3) Locking my gps and me in their walled garden
4) Waiting in huge lines just to talk to one of their techs
I now own an iphone 3g on tmobile (jailbroken and unlocked). I pay ..get this $30 less a month for comparable minutes, unlimited internet.
Windows Mobile:
One could trick out the windows mobile devices by using great programs like Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD), etc...but in the end, the windows mobile device was a hodge podge of desparate looking interfaces, installing this and that to make things work.
On the iphone everything works and it is slick - no fussing.
The browser is AWESOME. It seems Google and Yahoo worked with Apple to get their apps working great on the iphone.
It is about twice as fast in response time compared to the omnia running WAD.
I can finally get ALL my email in one place (two yahoo accounts, gmail, verizon) using IMAP on the iphone. It was simple to set up!!
The iphone is also relatively easy to repair/take apart. I replaced the screen..2 screws, 3 connectors, and a little prying.
We'll see what Verizon does with the Droid phone. They'll probably lock the GPS and charge $100/month for it. At this point, I think the Apple/Google boat has left the port with Microsoft still on the dock. Where in the world is windows mobile 7?
Sorry for the Rant

speechman said:
I don't want this to turn into a commercial for the iphone but....
After being a loyal Verizon customer and windows mobile user for about 7 years, I finally got fed up with verizon and windows mobile cr*p..
Verizon
1) Charging about $20/month more than anyone else
2) Constantly nickle and dimeing me about this fee and that
3) Locking my gps and me in their walled garden
4) Waiting in huge lines just to talk to one of their techs
I now own an iphone 3g on tmobile (jailbroken and unlocked). I pay ..get this $30 less a month for comparable minutes, unlimited internet.
Windows Mobile:
One could trick out the windows mobile devices by using great programs like Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD), etc...but in the end, the windows mobile device was a hodge podge of desparate looking interfaces, installing this and that to make things work.
On the iphone everything works and it is slick - no fussing.
The browser is AWESOME. It seems Google and Yahoo worked with Apple to get their apps working great on the iphone.
It is about twice as fast in response time compared to the omnia running WAD.
I can finally get ALL my email in one place (two yahoo accounts, gmail, verizon) using IMAP on the iphone. It was simple to set up!!
The iphone is also relatively easy to repair/take apart. I replaced the screen..2 screws, 3 connectors, and a little prying.
We'll see what Verizon does with the Droid phone. They'll probably lock the GPS and charge $100/month for it. At this point, I think the Apple/Google boat has left the port with Microsoft still on the dock. Where in the world is windows mobile 7?
Sorry for the Rant
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Well, Welcom over to T-mobile...the best bang for your buck. $56 dollars for unlimited data, 300min with free my faves, and 1500 messages! Seems to me that most your problems were with Verizon and not WinMo. All I have to say is you'll be back. I know all too many a people who switches to the iphone only to be dissapointed and come back. They were as excited as you are.
I can get all my email on my TD2 with easy setup on a Mobile Web Data Plan... No full web for me... and yet Opera still works fully and great..... And yes the iphone is simple to repair. I've fixed 3 for my freinds. But it is no easier to me than repairing and of my other phones. I plan on changing out my TD2 housing soon since it's all beat up. 4 screws and a couple connectors. Very easy.
Atleast your on T-Mobile where I can safely compare edge to Sprint and AT&Ts 3G at moments. Thats Denver for you.
But back on topic..... Android will be the top OS in the next few years. Not specifically this Moto Droid but the OS because it woks. and unlike the iphone is available in a variety of flavors and people can individualize themselves.... oh and the software too. I know I got tired of my Ipod touch in a week. Bought it off ebay with a broken touch screen. Fixed and jailbroke it and gave it to my sister.

I thought this was an Android ad when I first saw it until I went to the website. Funny it doesn't show the phone and bears no mention of Verizon. There's nothing anti-AT&T about it though. It's about time someone attacked the iPhone on its many Achilles heels. The only one before was the Pre on multitasking.

Wilhelm said:
I thought this was an Android ad when I first saw it until I went to the website. Funny it doesn't show the phone and bears no mention of Verizon. There's nothing anti-AT&T about it though. It's about time someone attacked the iPhone on its many Achilles heels. The only one before was the Pre on multitasking.
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The iphone is on AT&T so it's a stab at them also. What about the "there's a map for that" commercial Verizon has out? That one still takes the cake.

Samsung Omnia or HTC Droid Eris???

I currently have a Samsung Omnia with Verizon Wireless service. It seems to work fairly well now that I'm using SPB Mobile Shell and few other cool utilities. However, the reviews I've read say that there's a good chance it's gonna start glitching on me and I'm gonna hate it in a few months.
I just got an e-mail from Best Buy about a $50 discount on the HTC Droid Eris. I had already been considering switching to Android because it's where things are heading, and there are more apps available out of the box. The chief complaint I hear about Droid Eris is the battery life being awful and the fact that you can't install apps on your storage card, which quickly fills up your system memory.
I'm wondering if anyone else has an opinion on the matter. Is Android gonna be better in the long run or should I just stick it out for 2 years and hope for good WinMo updates? Is the Eris simply better hardware than the Omnia? Any thoughts?
Thanks.

Welcome to forums
We are a dedicated HTC forum only, so go for Eris if you want to have the great support from this site

Go with HTC & XDA combined for customizing & support.

+1 Droid Eris!

I had Omnia for a year..ran all sorts of custom roms...lvoedit..but then it finally started getting slower and slower compared to other phones...
today i got my droid eris.....
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SWEET!!!!! ahhah..this thing has tons of customization ability..as soon as people start messing with it...it'll be a hit...super fast...super sensitive...
did i mention android??? [2.0 update comes out early 2010...cant wait!] only thing better than droid eris for verizon customers is droid.. [its bigger & faster, but heavier]

Eris Droid has no bluetooth dialing capabilities
I will be returning the Eris Droid that I bought today. After trying for some time to get the bluetooth voice dialer to work, I googled it and found that THOUSANDS of disgruntled Eris buyers discovered that there is no capability for it and say they will return it to the Verizon store. The instructions say that you can MAKE and receive calls via the Bluetooth headset. The only way you can do that is with voice dialing. Every cheap cell phone and smartphone I've had for 6 years has had that capability. In a world where using a cell phone while driving is unlawful in many states, this is NOT a trivial feature. This was either an engineering fiasco or a marketing scheme whereby Google and Verizon and Motorola can make more money when they introduce the upgraded BLUETOOTH VOICE DIALER enhanced droid.

Has anyone any experience with Archos Android tablets?

Hello everyone,
I just lost my HTC Desire to my sister, since her Nokia 6630 lost its live just about a day ago.
She just grab my Desire and leaving my SIM-card behind. (Stupid is, she knows my all of my password and pin numbers on that phone...I guess she was spying on me for quite some time)...well...she did play the games inside my Desire...a LOT!!
I am really stupid!
Well...She talks more than I do on the phone...so...I guess I have to accept that..I am busy writing my master work at this moment...and I don't wanna have a fight with her ...not at his point of time...(I assume she knew that too).
The problem is, I don't have enough money to get a good smartphone which can match my "previous" Desire. Legend, Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab, etc. are way too expensive for me right now,
and HTC Wildfire can not meet my expectation.
Well...I can still make phone calls with my ..stupid Nokia 1800...It is juts...something big is obviously missing on that pile of plastic..
Now, I am thinking of getting an Archos 70 8GB Internet tablet, which will be there soon enough.
It will cost about the same price as Wildfire, but with more capabilities (at least according to the spesification).
So..I think...perhaps, I can use that along with my (stupid) Nokia 1800 Phone.
but, the thing is...I have never used anything from Archos before.
Can anyone post your experience using Archos previous Android tablets?
Is the company any good by the customer service?
Anything?
Pleaseeeeeee......

Hmmm...still no replies for days in this forum and several others, which I have posted...
Even my closest friends don't even have a single experience on Archos...
Perhaps I should rethink about getting a tablet PC from Archos.

Check out archosfans.com if you want to talk to people who are familiar with the brand. I had portable archos mp3/media players back before ipods became the standard, but I haven't used their products in quite a few years. The newest android tablets are interesting, especially since they're considerably less expensive than ipads and gtabs, but until I get a chance to hold one I'll refrain from any judgments.

Considering that the newer tablets coming out by Archos are Android, I would love to see xda development for them and eventually a section for Android tablets.
TS

Get a orange san francisco, 512mb ram, 800x480 oled screen, 2.1 pre loaded and a custom 2.2 rom available, also its unlockable for less than £5.

Archos's new Android tablet line is coming out as we speak. I just received word that mine was shipped today, so it should be here tomorrow ... I pre-ordered a 101 tablet.
I hope that xda development will come on this as it takes off (apparently there were too many pre-orders made that many sites shut down the possibility)
I am a first-time buyer of their products, so i can't comment on their customer service level .. and actually not on their product quality either.
but I'll be happy to report back once I get my hands on it tomorrow

Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...

aaa said:
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
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Dont forget to share your experience

Hmm...experience...LeeDroid you mean?
My impression until now :
Somehow faster than stock ROM, apps are installable to SDCard (most important), Desire proc become OC-able (not doing it), stable, slight improvement in battery live, still has Sense (third important), DSP manager become available (second important), performance gain for 3D games (fourth important) .
I like also the Desire HD rom (RCMixHD), but too bad that the camera is not working and I went back to LeeDroid.
I wanna try several other roms but I will play with LeeDroid for the time being first.

I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.

xManMythLegend said:
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire

aaa said:
Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.

Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?

actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.

havnet played with it yet :/

digibucc said:
actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
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The archos doesn't support ad-hoc wifi networks, so just make sure if your device creates an "ad-hoc" network, then it can't connect
However bluetooth tether works (I still have a g1 and I'm bluetooth tethering to my A70)

I have an HTC EVO also and I got an Archos 10.1. I had a previous Archos MP3/Video player from way back. Can you tell me since my phone is not rooted is there anyway I can tether. Goling to Vegas in a couple weeks and room doesn't have wifi. They have free internet but no wifi. I need to tether with Archos off EVO and Vegas has 4G which I don't have yet. Thanks,
digibucc said:
well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
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I was told PDA Net didn't do Android to Android but I heard there is some free wireless tether for non rooted phones but I don't know if it will work Archos to EVO. I replied to a post above and didn't finish reading where someone kind of asked the same thing. Sorry!
twospirits said:
Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
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OFF TOPIC -- Phone Suggestion Related to G-Tablet

Suggestions Anyone????
I have two G-Tablets and am working with Android for the first time.
Lost a cell phone today and may have to get another. Have not gone to smart phones up to now. Interested in Android but still plan to use G-Tabs for most of my e-mail, etc. Verizon (used to be Alltel).
What would be a good phone to use with the G-Tablet. Something which is not too locked up and could be used alone or possible tether with tablet. Some of you know the possibilities better than I do.
Thanks for any input.
Rev

I liked the feel of the Droid Incredible, though it is becoming dated. You really can't go wrong with the droid family (or so I hear, I'm on t-mobile), but if you want to wait I would pay attention to CES, some crazy phones being revealed.
Note on tethering, you need to do your homework. Some networks lock down their phones pretty good and make you pay. You can get around most with rooting, but just fyi.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

If you wanna go cheap and not have a contract. Get a Droid 1 off EBay. Easy to hack and overclocked at 1 Ghz runs well.

Not sure but i think droid x is the newest thing???
I was thinking of getting one but am waiting till march.
I am with AT&T and they are locked down on the tethering thing..i hear Verizon lets you tether though?
Can someone verify as i may go verizon/droid (from my old iphone/AT&T set up) in the spring if thats the case.

Thanks folks for your replies.
I am a little disappointed. I thought since the Android phones have been so successful lately that quite a few people would be able to tell me what to watch for and what to avoid.
I expect to get a new phone, but haven't been involved with smartphone enough to know the advantages and disadvantages of the hardware and software.
Still would love to hear from other about current options?!?
Rev

well im on at&t and im using the captivate and i love it! its rooted with axuras rom on it presently. tethering is enabled and i used it all the time.
the phone is faster than my g tab... seems faster.
ive played with the droid x and i prefer the captivate... dad has the x, it seems odd in the hand and i dont like the physical buttons.. the soft buttons have grown on me.
but any of the top smart phones are close..

Thanks to those who replied.
I found several Droid-type smartphones I liked -- but the plans that come with them wound up being too expensive and too limited to be practical for my use. Please I have a network of computers, a laptop, a netbook and two G-Tablets to get mail, download, etc. I just couldn't convince myself I had to have a smartphone!!
Wound up simply buying the wife a new phone she liked that had good visual features that will help with her visual handicap.
So all's well that ends well.
Again, thanks and best wishes for a blessed New Year.
Rev

[Q] Slightly OT, which cellphone do you use?

So I chose the G Tablet in large part due to the community. My Verizon phone contract is about to end in 2 months and I'm looking at an Android phone (of course). Looking for tethering most importantly for my gtab but I guess I might find that Verizon has locked down the devices too much. I'm open to custom ROMs assuming they are as polished as the ones we have here. Anyone have suggestions?

I've got an EVO and have been quite happy with it. Large modding community, multiple good and polished roms with very active devs, both AOSP and Sense. WifiTether comes with most of the custom ROMS and is free, and speeds are actually pretty good if you happen to be in a 4G area. Phone is good, though battery life is a bit poor (but then again, most Android phones are that way).
All in all I'm pretty pleased with it, though there are plenty of good options out there.

Thanks, I'll have to look into as many as I can. I have a Blackberry now and have done diddly squat for customization of it. Originally planned to flex my development skills a bit but just never got around to it.

Sprint HTC Hero rooted w/ Froyo.

Lg Optimus S (Rooted w/ froyo)

Nexus One on AT&T.
Have been tethering my gtablet since the day I took it home.

Att Samsung captivate great phone except for lousy GPS Samsung should stick to tvs... rooted 2.2

I'm Tethering using Samsung Fascinate. Sucks cuz of no 2.2, still 2.1. In 2 Months many Good Phones will be out So you could try those but Ive had This phone and Droid Incredible for Verizon and both tether fine. Just need Root.

Im using the good ol Droid Eris that is rooted.

I'm Rocking a Droid (Original) with Cyanogen as of now... a few weeks ago it was another flavor.. I love the android phone dev. scene.. Changing Mods is like changing socks.. ;-)
Looking forward to the HTC Thunderbolt Upgrade in FEB

Stuck on the Moment with 2.1. Rooted, customized kernel with Froyo-like JIT enhancements, wifi tethering, and other good stuff. It's reasonable, but so far, no one has made much progress with getting true 2.2 working on it. They released the source for two phones (Acclaim and Intercept) that are very similar to the Moment, but the only community that develops for the phone (SDX) hasn't gotten anything working. It's beyond my skill level, sadly, or I'd try my hand at it.
I'm able to change my phone in April, so I'll probably see what options are available then or coming shortly thereafter.

The droid 2 is a nice phone when it is rooted and you can use it as a mobile hotspot for free if it is rooted, although the droid bionic looks very promissing when it comes out and it has the same tegra 2 processor as the gtablet but it an actually fit in a pocket.

Nexus One running stock 2.2 on t-Mobile with the famous grandfathered 6.99 data plan. Tethering works great. But I've been having issues with the power button not working, so I might finally root it when the warranty runs out so I can assign the power button to the trackball or something.

yellowdragon said:
Nexus One on AT&T.
Have been tethering my gtablet since the day I took it home.
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+1 It was simple to tether a connection between the two (2) devices and it works well.

Google Nexus One on Bell Mobility (i'm a canuckia resident), modded as per my sig. Bestest phone I ever had. I'm planning on getting a Tegra2-based or a Nexus S as soon as those hit Vidéotron in Quebec though.