How to backup/recover your original ROM. - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi,
I have googled and searched on XDA, but I couldn't get the right answers. I have found topics which were like +/- 4 years old and other topics which were only made for (example) the HTC hero.
Is there a general howto for android phones, or are the howto's really only made for certain phones?
I'm running Android 2.1 on my Flipout...
Thanks for any feedback.

There are wiki's, web sites, and forums dedicated to each Android phone, for the most part. I would not start on xda if you are a noob. You are better off checking whether Androidforums has a forum dedicated to your phone first, and looking for dedicated pages that may point to other sites.
For the most part, folks on xda have more than a passing familiarity with rooting phones, modifying their ROM's, modifying the interface, and changing linux kernels in devices. Not a good place for you to start until you are more comfortable with your handset.

hgoldner said:
There are wiki's, web sites, and forums dedicated to each Android phone, for the most part. I would not start on xda if you are a noob. You are better off checking whether Androidforums has a forum dedicated to your phone first, and looking for dedicated pages that may point to other sites.
For the most part, folks on xda have more than a passing familiarity with rooting phones, modifying their ROM's, modifying the interface, and changing linux kernels in devices. Not a good place for you to start until you are more comfortable with your handset.
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I'm not planning to modify interface/ROM etc... Just a "simple" backup so I can change my ROM (I can't stand MotoBlur). I have seen guides/tutorials on XDA for other (popular) phones, so I was just wondering if I could use that guide for the Flipout? Or maybe somebody has experience on this matter...? Btw, I have checked the wiki; the Flipout isn't on the list...
I'm checking Androidforums atm, thanks.

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Does this site include the first XDA model not just latest v

Does this site include the first XDA model not just latest versions?
Hi,
This is my first time to this site. As I look through the General forum I noticed that most comments refer to Models 1 + 11. I have just purchased from my daughter her XDA that she purchased over 2 years ago, she is upgrading, I just wanted to know if this site will be informative to me seeing I have an old model.
I understand completly that new models come on stream and forums like this will have a change in focus, I was just wondering if older units like my XDA are still a discussion point.
Welcome in the forum.....
I think if you had taken a closer look at the threads you would have seen, that there are many postings concerning the "good old XDA". Also there are many usefull information in the wiki.
Out in the world, there are many useres, that are still using this device.
Sure, the topics about the XDA I are not so frequently than for the newer models (i think that is normal), but if you have any questions i'm sure you get an answer....
Regards
Stefan
Thanks very much Stefan,
I did look through the threads, my mistake was I thought XDA 1 was a newer model then my plain older XDA.
I will now have much enjoyment looking for information on this forum and no doubt, pose more questions as I become familar with my XDA.

XDA Sister Site for All Android MFG's

Hello all,
With how big the buzz is on the new Moto Droid, and how awesome the reviews have been on it so far, I'm hoping the modding community would attack it like a wolf on a sheep.
The question of the day though, is where will the modders conglomerate? It's not a HTC phone, so of course it wouldn't be on XDA (though I wish it was, because the android community here is first class awesome).
Why not create a sister site of XDA called droid-developers.com (or any name really, i wrote this because android-developers.com is taken). We could move all of the android forums and posts over to the sister site (which would definitely save bandwidth here on XDA), and that way the devs can have a one stop area for all android development, not just HTC phones. They could then just create new forums for other phones, like the liquid a1, motorola droid, samsung galaxy, etc..
If we have different sites for different manufacturers, the dev and mod community will be broken apart on different sites, whereas they could all be centrally located on one site.
Having all the android devs in one location not only helps form a community, but it also makes it a one stop location for everything android modding and developing. Others have tried doing so, but each attempt failed because there was no backing. If XDA made the site, it would have the backing of XDA, and with them moving all the current android forums over to the new site, it would be instant 100% backing, as that is where the devs would go for their current projects that are already posted, and any new projects.
As it stands now, there is a different forum for dream/magic, yet a lot of the posts get double posted in each because they are applicable to each. when someone is working on an application, do they choose to put it in the Dream section, Magic section, or Hero section? With it's own complete forum, there could be a general app section, etc..
Lets use an example. The Samsung Galaxy. It was the second android phone released. It's a great phone, but because it's not made by HTC, and therefore has no place on XDA, there is no modding community for it at all. A great device (and really the only one with a good amount of internal storage) has no hopes for the modding future because there is no central location for devs to conglomerate. If it was made by HTC, it would have flourished in the modding community simply because it could be discussed and worked on here at XDA.
The main thing, is they're modding Android, not the specific device. Sure each device has it's own quirks, but Android as a whole is what the topic is about. Why limit it to just HTC phones?
So please, if you agree that this will help the android community, vote in the poll, and voice your opinion by posting in this thread.
Well, as I find the proposal fair enough I've voted yes, but I'm not at all convinced about that domain.
If you intend to move devs from this site (which is well known in the android scene) to a new one, and you use as a reason that this was htc specific, you can't possibly try to name the new site droid-developers in direct reference to a motorola phone.
it wasn't used for a motorola reference. android-developers.com is already taken, as is android-devs.com.
If you have any other suggestions for domain names please post them.
Edit: fixed the first post to reflect what i stated here about the name
Are the mods here not going to create a section for this phone?
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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Have the mods said this somewhere?
livejamie said:
Have the mods said this somewhere?
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Lol, it's the origins of XDA. Look at all the phones listed on the forum. They're all HTC phones. XDA is another name for an older htc phone. This site was made and is used only for HTC phones.
PCTechNerd said:
There will be no section for The Droid, Galaxy, Cliq, Liquid A1, etc.. because they are not HTC phones. XDA is for HTC phones only.
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then why is there xperia x1
JJbdoggg said:
then why is there xperia x1
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Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
PCTechNerd said:
Because the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 was made by HTC.
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doh should have checked it out
Tawm said:
How about making an Android section on this forum that has every Android device, HTC or not? Still under the XDA-Developers.com domain though.
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That wouldn't work also, as it would make the main site very clustered. the current per phone forum layout is great, and I would hope the new site would maintain the same layout. Each phone definitely needs it's own forum for hardware hacks (like rooting, SPL's, custom ROM's, etc..) but with all Android devices in one place, it's easier for the community to discuss, mod, etc.. from device to device.
you got another yes here. i would like to see all android being supported.
I too would like to see all Android supported. Especially seeings how a lot of the development will apply to most devices.
I personally hope for a new site to offload some traffic. With android coming to more carriers there is bound to be much heavier traffic.
XDA has been invaluable to me since I got my titan a few years back.
As I have been considering the DROID as an upgrade, I would feel much better about that choice knowing it had a great community to support it despite not being an HTC device.
The same could apply to Windows Mobile though. There are great WinMo devices that aren't supported by the xda-dev's. They can only do so much.
I ststed this in another thread. ModMyMoto will have a section for Droid and Cliq. As far as the others Im sure a site such as PPCGeeks will have the other devices covered.
But I wouldnt be chosing a phone based on the presence of a forum. There will always be someone modding a device if it exists, and finding info is easy enough with google.
If all the devices were located on the same forum, you would have all kinds of tardos flashing files to incorrect devices.
If youve been on XDA for a while you know that these conversations come and go. XDA does their thing, they are the big dogs on the block so its not a big deal if it takes another site to fill in the gaps that XDA cant cover.
I post most of my work on alldroid.org because I would like to use that site for software related things and then use XDA for hardware related things for my G1. I think once more non-HTC phones hit the stores there will be a big influx of people looking for a site to mod on and I dont think XDA will be able to support it unless they dramatically change their ways.
Was going through my past subscriptions and I came upon this thread. Oh how the tides have changed
Ahhh this brings back so many memories. It's great to see how much XDA has progressed over the years!

droid / forum newbie

ive had a droid for a month or so. i was a big blackberry guy and have heard all the great things about droid so i used my upgrade for a droidx. ive been told this is the forum to really get the most out of you droid. i am semi literate with this phone (not nearly as much so as my blackberry) but won't the most out of it ... how should i start, what should i do / download. i want a fast different look that my otr droid friends will be envious of
thanks for the help
new member,
jgo113
Hi, welcome to the forum!
It can be massively overwhelming for new users here to know what is acheivable and what isn't, especially if you're not too familiar with the OS on the device you are using.
I would suggest getting to know the forum and learning which sections are relevant to you first. Browse around for a while and read some guides. What really helped me was to focus on the 'Post your Home Screen', screenshot type threads where people showed what they had done with their own phones. This way you can see what is acheivable and start leaning how to get there yourself.
FAQ/Guides/Wiki stickies are a good resource and are found in most of the forums.
Well for starters decide if you want to root your phone or not - read about what's that about, how does it "liberate" your device (AND YOU) from the tyranny of evil phone produces, just how badly you can break your device (the warnings), etc. After that you can begin trying different ROMs (custom firmwares) for your device, until you find the one, that suits your needs. Then learn BASH and begin writing scripts, hacking the living hell out of your device...
...or just use a custom "launcher" app, if you literally want your phone to look different. You can find some at the Market.
PS: Either way remember, the search bar is your friend. Before posting check if anybody has asked the same question - at least 95% of cases you'll find more about your problem/question, just by searching.

[Q] How to Start off as an Android User

Hi All,
I am new to Android and Galaxy Note is my first Android phone. I have been hearing a lot of new terms from friends & colleagues and I wanted help from this community to get set up. One of the many terms that I have heard is rooting the phone and from my Linux knowledge it seems having root access on the phone. I have been successful in playing with root permissions using Superuser, Root Explorer and Titanium Backup. However, I would like to have a way to learn all of this in a structured format. I would like to know the purpose of ODIN and working with it. The implications of CMW and having custom kernels and ROMs installed on my phone.
Could somebody please assist me with links to get started off?
Thanks,
Anupam
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/
Here you go. That is a link to the XDA wiki. That will be able to answer all of your questions. You can find alot of great info throughout the different forums on the site. Just take your time and do alot of exploring and reading before you jump into things. You won't regret it.
hello, i am a new android user and have a stock mt4gs. i am considering rooting and doing more with my phone but i am a little wary. i would consider myself a power user of pc's (win and mac) but i am coming at it from the graphics world so the tech side can really throw me off. after all the reading i have done on rooting i am more wary than when i started. my basic question: is there a resource that can give a very general overview of the rooting/moding processes? i have been all over the XDA site for days now but i seem to end up finding technical guides that answer more specific question about the process or go into details of this patch or that flash but not something that really just gives the A-B-C fundamentals for noobs like me and how to approach it in a somewhat safe and responsible manner.
thx in advance!
baldguydesign said:
hello, i am a new android user and have a stock mt4gs. i am considering rooting and doing more with my phone but i am a little wary. i would consider myself a power user of pc's (win and mac) but i am coming at it from the graphics world so the tech side can really throw me off. after all the reading i have done on rooting i am more wary than when i started. my basic question: is there a resource that can give a very general overview of the rooting/moding processes? i have been all over the XDA site for days now but i seem to end up finding technical guides that answer more specific question about the process or go into details of this patch or that flash but not something that really just gives the A-B-C fundamentals for noobs like me and how to approach it in a somewhat safe and responsible manner.
thx in advance!
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Check out the mt4gs forums, specifically the development section. There are step by step guides that will walk you through the process. Any other questions should be directed to the mt4gs q&a section.

[Q] New guy - is XDA for me?

Hey guys!
Did some some searching around on this site and couldn't even find a mention of my device. I just recently bought a Huawei Y210C android phone. It is a Chinese manufacturer, which might explain the sparsity of information in English about it.
Anyway, about me, I do some programming in Java, and I want to eventually be making android apps. I also want to root my huawei, try some different ROMs on it and stuff. Now, as far as android development goes, I'm a pure beginner. Does it matter that there aren't people talking specifically about my phone, or can I snag some 'how to root' guides from other devices and ROMs, etc., and use them effectively, or would I have to figure out how to root it on my own?
Essentially, what I am asking is: given that there is no sub-forum for my device, and that I'm a dev noob, will I find useful stuff around here?
cheers
For anyone, and everyone , unless your gonna hack XDA, or blow the servers up then NO! otherwise yes, and you are very welcome if you ask me . Always nice seeing another XDA member. You may or may not know shiz about flashing a ROM, or kernel, or unlocking bootloaders, etc, etc, but that's why there are tutorials to get people started
Everything you needed to get started should be here , welcome to XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949604
As far as your phone. You can for sure utilize XDA, I just did a search and there's not really much of anything for your phone, but you can for sure still post stuff you make for it on here . I'm pretty sure you could utilize the 'Android Developing and Hacking' or 'Legacy&Low Activity Devices' to post your work for that phone .
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XDA is a great information resource for pretty much anything Android related. Being that you have a desire to develop apps I'm 99.9999% positive there is someone on XDA that'll help you out any way they can if you have any questions. In the end though only you can answer your own question. Joining XDA was one of the best choices I have made and now its inspired me to learn the Python language and then I'll tackle Java lol.
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