So with Asus releasing the Source code for there Tablet on Honeycomb, will that be helpful for making new roms for the Xoom now?
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They only released source code of the kernel (which they are bound to do by GPL licence anyway).
It will only be their kernel patches. Mostly useless.
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alias_neo said:
It will only be their kernel patches. Mostly useless.
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Not true.. Bigrushdog said after looking at the source for the asus it shed light on the xoom sd card issue. So in that respect it might be very useful for us I know he was hard at work last night trying to incorporate the asus sdcard routines into the xoom
I said mostly useless, so not untrue at all.
In the end, moto / Google is looking for an elegant solution, at best we might be able to bandage something together for now.
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Hi I may be posting in the wrong place but I was wandering if it was possible to port Webos on the inspire. Even though Webos is gone it still would be cool.
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I highly doubt that will happen. I may be wrong but I believe WebOS is closed source, meaning that we will more than likely never see WebOS on something that was not meant to run it. I do believe it runs a Linux kernel, but then you would have driver issues (I would imagine).
Once again, I am purely speculating from a NON-programming standpoint.
yeah, highly unlikely. but honestly, after using my touchpad all week, i really wish i had some apps for it. as a tablet OS, its great, but it just needs some apps so the device can actually be used.
I remember talking to some guys in the nexus one dev threads, and while it was definitely within all of our capabilities to try and reverse engineer even a leaked web OS rom, there would be serious legal ramifications. (That is, if it was successfully ported and became mildly popular)
Case in point, ps3, a closed source system/ OS, and geohotz.
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hmm... i was just told by an HP rep at my work today that the code is opensource now since HP is no longer supporting it.
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hmm... i was just told by an HP rep at my work today that the code is opensource now since HP is no longer supporting it.
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I hadn't heard that officially but if true, that ui is getting ported over top of cm7 baby
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Pirateghost said:
yeah, highly unlikely. but honestly, after using my touchpad all week, i really wish i had some apps for it. as a tablet OS, its great, but it just needs some apps so the device can actually be used.
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Check this out PG
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/26/hp-wants-to-give-you-some-free-apps-to-go-with-that-new-touchpad/
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Youngunn2008 said:
Check this out PG
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/26/hp-wants-to-give-you-some-free-apps-to-go-with-that-new-touchpad/
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Yeah, they had run out the next morning when I tried to get them
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I wish there is a working webOS in my sensation. Anyone with me?
I don't see why someone would do that since ICS is coming
Yeah, but we'd like the freedom to choose
I thought the same thing when I heard Web OS was going open source. I guess it could be posible sicne its linux based and no licensing issues, correct me if I'm wrong. The only thing stoping it is the lack of developers that have a Sensation and would want to spend the time porting it. Not likely in my honest opinion.
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I'm sure we'll see it pop up for Android phones eventually.
I'd like to see a merging of the two. There's some things that WebOS does better than Android, and vice versa. I think a "WebDroid" project would be nifty.
Its all dependant on how much they choose to "open". If its just the kernel it won't help much.
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Its all dependant on how much they choose to "open". If its just the kernel it won't help much.
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Since they announced it as Open source I assume it will be everything that's necessary for OEM's to develop this OS on their respective devices.
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I don't see a place for an open source WebOS. There's already a linux based open source mobile smartphone OS thats being used by most of the market; Android. It wouldn't make sense to suddenly drop Android for WebOS, or even to just sell them side by side, there's just no need.
I don't see a port happening, possible, but doubtful that anyone will have the time to do it.
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I don't see a place for an open source WebOS. There's already a linux based open source mobile smartphone OS thats being used by most of the market; Android. It wouldn't make sense to suddenly drop Android for WebOS, or even to just sell them side by side, there's just no need.
I don't see a port happening, possible, but doubtful that anyone will have the time to do it.
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WebOS rivals iOS in sheer polish and usability IMO, if it wasn't for the poor hardware and devices that Palm made, I'm sure it would have done a lot better. It would be nice to have dual boot ICS and WebOS on the Sensation
I would like to see webOS run on sensation . if possible we can do it with dual boot between webOS and android that will be super awesome!
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I would like to see webOS run on sensation . if possible we can do it with dual boot between webOS and android that will be super awesome!
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And when ICS comes out, which one are you going to boot into the most on?
Droid life and the verge published an article stating that the evo 3d already has a booting web os 3.0, and has for months. Although it is hacked together and still unfinished this suggests that the sensation could get it, given the devices similarities, with some dev willing to do it.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2011/12/...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
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Droid life and the verge published an article stating that the evo 3d already has a booting web os 3.0, and has for months. Although it is hacked together and still unfinished this suggests that the sensation could get it, given the devices similarities, with some dev willing to do it.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2011/12/...r-htcs-evo-3d-a-proof-of-concept-for-the-time
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This. Its basically the same hardware, so it shouldn't be too much of a hassle
Well, I would like to see this
i wanna see this too
Why did you revive this year old thread you 2?
Will the Verizon version be plagued by radio interface layer? I'm coming from a rezound and it still doesn't have aosp and I'm wondering if this phone will have the same issues getting aosp
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I'm wondering the same thing, the rezound doesn't have any aosp yet because of RIL. Hopefully it won't be the same case with the SG3 :/
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It will be I'm afraid. But this phone should have a more diverse developer base so hopefully that will help
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Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.
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Coming from the Rezound also. It's sad how much Rezound development died. I'm hoping since the GSIII is so ubiquitous that it will have a lot of developer support. And HOPEFULLY someone will get us some AOSP goodness.
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I thought u all were doing good with newt over there
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Unfortunately gsm radio is different than cdma. Lte ril will need to be fixed then whatever breaks from the fix will have to be fixed. Lots of code to look through and repair
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Also Samsung released sources for att and T-Mobile so hopefully they will for Verizon so this sold make it easier to fix ril
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it's not just source.....they released the source for the Fascinate and Charge and neither had the RIL specific part in it....so it really didn't do a whole lot for AOSP/CM development.....the Fascinate eventually got it after a LONG time, the Charge still to this day doesn't and it was nearly the same device as the Fascinate but with added LTE radio....which made it even worse....
I think the sheer popularity of the SGSIII will make AOSP happen, I expect it to get pretty much the best of everything considering the hardware and popularity.
Since the tf 700 is just about the same as the other ones in hardware (tf300 and tf201) , are their roms or kernels compatible to flag and help this bad boy out ?
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They're not compatible, if you flash a prime or TF300 rom you'll probably brick. However, development for those tablets will help out the TF700 since they are pretty similar.
Hopefully its just A matter of changing the kernel.
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I'm sure developers will simply port some of their ROMs overall and have feature parity shortly. There are some changes and drivers they would have to make.
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I'm sure developers will simply port some of their ROMs overall and have feature parity shortly. There are some changes and drivers they would have to make.
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+1 -- it's probably down to the nitty-gritty small details.
I could be wrong, but does it have something do with proprietary drivers not being compatible with the linux kernel version that each new major Android version requires?
Now I'm just thinking to get Jelly Bean! I'm not even worried about the next big update from Google!
One thing at the time!
I've already accepted that the G2x won't get KLP
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Really getting ahead of yourself aren't you?
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C'mon man even Arnold left the terminator 4 alone.... just learn to let go of things will ya? after JB ofcourse
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How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?
The major issue was that with 4.0 ICS, Google fundamentally changed the way that Android operated, so that the operating system and the apps would use hardware-based graphical acceleration. The drivers for this were not available for the G2x because NVidia was trying very hard to stop supporting the old Tegra 2 CPUs, or something, I don't know, there was drama and everybody was blaming everyone else.
Now that we've had updates for the su660 and the p990 with kernel source code and proprietary hardware acceleration drivers for ICS, this should let us keep basic compatibility through most of the future Android versions.
Obviously as it gets more features added it might become too bulky and CPU-intensive for our phones, but that shouldn't be for a while.
The only major breakage I can think of is if a future version of Android requires the NEON instruction set, which the Tegra 2 does not support.
The kernel itself being updated shouldn't be much of an issue.
Ram requirements will be a problem.
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Depending on when klp comes out I hope the g2x can run it. This phone had to last me a bit longer till I get rid of debt and save to buy a nexus 4
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How about this question them: Do major android revisions require a newer kernel version, and if so, is that why the proprietary video drivers get broken after a major release?
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The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.
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Speculation about KLP when we haven't got ICS or even Jellybean or CM10 is self-abuse and surely will lead to total madness.
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Totally agree.
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The culprit is NVIDIA. They have not followed Linux guide lines. Their drivers are tied to specific kernel versions.
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is it because of limitations of the drivers, or just for ****s and giggles? AMD does the same crap, and considering the Radeon 3650 on my Thinkpad T500 isn't getting regular updates anymore to compensate for updated kernels, I'm stuck with the subpar open source drivers.
And I didn't intend on starting some sort of war....I was just generally curious