[Q] Have started noticing smudged spots - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Last night I looked at my two-weeks-old NS and realized that there was a smudged spot right over the speaker. At first it seemed to be under the glass, but it disappeared after I rubbed it with a cloth. However, that exact spot gets smudged much more easily than the rest now.
Has this happened to you? Can the oleophobic layer be wearing off so soon? Is that normal, or should I return the phone? This has also made me consider using a screen protector to avoid these situations in the future, but I don't have any experience with them; are there screen protectors that you won't notice when touching or looking at the phone?

frandavid100 said:
Hi,
Last night I looked at my two-weeks-old NS and realized that there was a smudged spot right over the speaker. At first it seemed to be under the glass, but it disappeared after I rubbed it with a cloth. However, that exact spot gets smudged much more easily than the rest now.
Has this happened to you? Can the oleophobic layer be wearing off so soon? Is that normal, or should I return the phone? This has also made me consider using a screen protector to avoid these situations in the future, but I don't have any experience with them; are there screen protectors that you won't notice when touching or looking at the phone?
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The coating can wear off pretty soon, yes. But some people also manage to get a scratch in their first week with the Nexus S. My coating is fine. That said, I'm not really looking for any malfunctions.
There are screen protector that you don't really notice. They will never be as good as no screen protector, but brands like Seidio and Steinheil come pretty close.
I'm not the one to judge, since I'm also not a native speaker, but your English is great!

sounds like your coating mine is the same has a nice o on the screen at the middle of my screen on the right side

Related

Martin Fields screen protector...

Doesn't somebody on here have one? Does it cover the entire screen or does it fall short? Seems like this might be the best one available right now...
masse1369 said:
Doesn't somebody on here have one? Does it cover the entire screen or does it fall short? Seems like this might be the best one available right now...
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Sure just got yesterday. In fact it covers all of the glass portion of the screen. For reference there is no reduction in touch sensitivity with the protector in place.
While I think the cost is high, Martin Fields protectors have always been high quality. This is no exception.
Awesome news! Thanks for the reply!
Is this a thick, flexible protector like Zagg or PhantomSkinz? Also, have you noticed any change in proximity sensor sensitivity?
For reference, I have a PhantomSkinz currently, and when I'm in a dimly lit room and make/take a call, and pull the phone away from my face, it stays blacked out. I have to turn the light on to get it to wake up. I took the skin off, and it went back to normal.
Can you test this if you have the MF protector?
Also, can you please post pics of the screen protector in place? I, too, am wondering about the precision of the fitment. PhantomSkinz, Seidio, and others seem to have missed the mark and cut the protectors to short in width AND height.
Edit: Also looks like the include a piece for the camera cover on the back...? http://www.martinfields.com/US/prod...oogle_Nexus&modeln=Nexus One&prod_type=screen
uansari1 said:
Is this a thick, flexible protector like Zagg or PhantomSkinz? Also, have you noticed any change in proximity sensor sensitivity?
For reference, I have a PhantomSkinz currently, and when I'm in a dimly lit room and make/take a call, and pull the phone away from my face, it stays blacked out. I have to turn the light on to get it to wake up. I took the skin off, and it went back to normal.
Can you test this if you have the MF protector?
Also, can you please post pics of the screen protector in place? I, too, am wondering about the precision of the fitment. PhantomSkinz, Seidio, and others seem to have missed the mark and cut the protectors to short in width AND height.
Edit: Also looks like the include a piece for the camera cover on the back...?
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I originally had a Skinomi protector and never really thought it bad, however I decided I'd try the Martin Fields one because I've never used a static protector.
Looks
I must say I'm thoroughly impressed by this protector! It fits perfectly; well almost perfectly, looking closely, you can still see the edge but it is almost negligible. If I had to gauge how big the space is... maybe about the thickness of a sheet of folder paper... if even that.
Scratching
The protector itself is what seems to be a hard plastic. I haven't scratched it yet (it claims to be HIGHLY scratch resistant) but it's still worrisome. I've done a fingernail test as of now and it has survived. It makes no indentation like the "self healing" skins so I'm guessing if it does get scratched, it stays scratched.
Application
The really cool thing I like most though is the static cling application. I managed to get dust on it before applying it X_X. Using scotch tape though, I was able to remove it with no problems! After about 30 minutes (I decided to be really OCD about the application) it was air bubble free and dust free. Oh, I also decided to try and running it under water to clean it but I found the tape a MUCH better way to clean it.
Removal
Also, be careful when removing the protector. It says to use tape and pull it off at corner. I tried using my fingernail on the camera protector and it kind of warped lol. No real problem though, just looks like an air bubble under it however it isn't over the lens so no problems taking pictures.
Clarity
As far as the proximity sensor goes, I thought it wasn't configured properly but after switching protectors, it works perfectly (so Skinomi = no good, Martin Fields = awesome). Same goes with the camera; it takes crystal clear photos.
Daily Use/Misc
The feel of this protector is very nice; I think due to the hard plastic material. It really does feel like nothing is there. Looks wise, it's glossy, reflects a clear image of me when looking at it, and is PERFECTLY transparent. If matte anti-glare is your thing, this isn't your screen protector. Good comparison is Macbook Pro anti-glare/glass; matte vs colors really popping off the screen.
Another issue I have with screen protectors is how well I can flick/scroll, this protector has my stamp of approval. As I said earlier, it feels very similar to glass and as such, scrolling is a breeze.
Smudging is also handled pretty nicely, much better than the "self healing" stuff. I find myself wiping the screen down with my shirt maybe once a day, if even that.
In Conclusion
So, sorry for the long post, but I tried to cover as many bases as possible. My last sentiments for this protector:
10/10
+
Easy application
Washable
Fits very well over screen, minimal non-coverage
Can remove dust from "sticky" side
Crystal Clear/Perfect proximity sensor
Feels Like there is nothing there
Highly scratch resistant? (personally, only did fingernail test so "?")
Somewhat smudge resistant
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Camera protector
No anti-glare (your personal preference, move to + or -)
Pricy? (16.99 USD + 9.99 shipping)
-
Can be bent and will not fit properly afterwards
P.S. - Shipping was 10 dollars, Fed Ex overnight I think. It came within 2 days for sure though.
P.P.S. - I will post pictures when I find a better camera. I don't have one that zooms in close enough to see the edges and the glare kind of ruins the picture :\
Ugh, I want to put down for this sheild but the only thing holding me back is it's not whole body protection!
Thank you for your review! I doubt anyone will have a problem with as details are what matters
Also can you include some random pictures from the Nexus with the Martin Fields Protecter on the camera? I saw the one on their page but i'm always skeptical
It sucks ! had one and started pelling after a week, I keep my phone in my pocket.....now I have invisible shield and THAT one holds.
xavina said:
I originally had a Skinomi protector and never really thought it bad, however I decided I'd try the Martin Fields one because I've never used a static protector.
Looks
I must say I'm thoroughly impressed by this protector! It fits perfectly; well almost perfectly, looking closely, you can still see the edge but it is almost negligible. If I had to gauge how big the space is... maybe about the thickness of a sheet of folder paper... if even that.
Scratching
The protector itself is what seems to be a hard plastic. I haven't scratched it yet (it claims to be HIGHLY scratch resistant) but it's still worrisome. I've done a fingernail test as of now and it has survived. It makes no indentation like the "self healing" skins so I'm guessing if it does get scratched, it stays scratched.
Application
The really cool thing I like most though is the static cling application. I managed to get dust on it before applying it X_X. Using scotch tape though, I was able to remove it with no problems! After about 30 minutes (I decided to be really OCD about the application) it was air bubble free and dust free. Oh, I also decided to try and running it under water to clean it but I found the tape a MUCH better way to clean it.
Removal
Also, be careful when removing the protector. It says to use tape and pull it off at corner. I tried using my fingernail on the camera protector and it kind of warped lol. No real problem though, just looks like an air bubble under it however it isn't over the lens so no problems taking pictures.
Clarity
As far as the proximity sensor goes, I thought it wasn't configured properly but after switching protectors, it works perfectly (so Skinomi = no good, Martin Fields = awesome). Same goes with the camera; it takes crystal clear photos.
Daily Use/Misc
The feel of this protector is very nice; I think due to the hard plastic material. It really does feel like nothing is there. Looks wise, it's glossy, reflects a clear image of me when looking at it, and is PERFECTLY transparent. If matte anti-glare is your thing, this isn't your screen protector. Good comparison is Macbook Pro anti-glare/glass; matte vs colors really popping off the screen.
Another issue I have with screen protectors is how well I can flick/scroll, this protector has my stamp of approval. As I said earlier, it feels very similar to glass and as such, scrolling is a breeze.
Smudging is also handled pretty nicely, much better than the "self healing" stuff. I find myself wiping the screen down with my shirt maybe once a day, if even that.
In Conclusion
So, sorry for the long post, but I tried to cover as many bases as possible. My last sentiments for this protector:
10/10
+
Easy application
Washable
Fits very well over screen, minimal non-coverage
Can remove dust from "sticky" side
Crystal Clear/Perfect proximity sensor
Feels Like there is nothing there
Highly scratch resistant? (personally, only did fingernail test so "?")
Somewhat smudge resistant
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Camera protector
No anti-glare (your personal preference, move to + or -)
Pricy? (16.99 USD + 9.99 shipping)
-
Can be bent and will not fit properly afterwards
P.S. - Shipping was 10 dollars, Fed Ex overnight I think. It came within 2 days for sure though.
P.P.S. - I will post pictures when I find a better camera. I don't have one that zooms in close enough to see the edges and the glare kind of ruins the picture :\
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Thanks so much for your thorough review. Two things though... first, can you please take a pic of the screen for us, especially showing how the fitment is? I believe you when you say it's just barely short, but am just curious. Second, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who noticed a change in the proximity sensor with these thicker skins.
I'll almost certainly be ordering this product it looks like. One more thing... does it have a guarantee or anything?
Edit: Found this review with installation tips... seems to be just like a Seidio screen protector.
http://the-gadgeteer.com/2004/01/05/martin_fields_overlay_plus_pda_screen_protector_review_/
I've attached a few pictures of the phone and a few taken from the Nexus One
Screen protector
I tried to get as close as possible to the screen to show the edges (Don't mind the Skinomi skin lol).
The one of the camera protector seems clear, but there is one section that is discolored to the rest, that'll be the place I bent lol (bottom half when looking at the picture I took).
Pictures taken from the Phone
There are 2 pictures taken with the phone; one normal and one using the zoom feature.
The picture of the plants are closer, in mid/low light.
The picture of the mountain is further away and in bright light. It's not exactly clear because it's rainy/misty today, sorry for that one.
The last pair is of a magazine in little-no light using the flash as the only source of light.
Warranty
Regarding the warranty, I didn't see mention of anything so I can't really say. If I find anything, I'll be sure to post it.
Thickness
To me, it seems slimmer than the Skinomi Skin because I can feel it almost flush to the metal but it might be my imagination.
I can only upload 8 at a time, so I'll post the others in another post.
These are the remaining photos I took from the phone.
Wow... the fitment looks perfect man. Thanks very much for the pics. Still waiting to hear from Seidio, but this is the front runner. I'll order a new one this week. By the way, I'm jealous that you live near mountains.
Haha, yeah, living in Hawaii has its perks. Wish I could have taken more pictures but I just figured I'd get something posted asap.
If anyone would like to see any specific pictures/angles, I'd be happy to oblige. Like I said though, the camera I have isn't exactly great so quality is kind of lacking.
I'll post again later though seeing how someone had an issue with the protector peeling. I also put my phone into my pocket, so we'll see if it collects lint, peels, etc. So far, my Skinomi seems to be acting like a lint magnet so that may skew results lol.
One last thing of note, I've been hearing word that Martin Fields uses a mild adhesive. With this protector, I guess it's possible that a really mild adhesive is used but I know for sure it's static; depending on which side I'd place a strip of tape close to it, it would actually pull or push the tape in a certain direction. It didn't really feel sticky but I could definitely tell which side needed to be placed on screen; it wasn't smooth on one side.
I have an Martin Fields protector installed on my N1 as well. I'm pleased with it.
I agree with the review here, but I'd like to add that these things do get scratched quite easily. I have one on my G1 and it looks like sh*t after 6 months. It's scuffed and scratched like crazy. Since the MF protectors are not cheap, it's annoying to replace them, but they do their job quite well. Note that I keep my phone in my pocket, often rubbing against keys and coins.
I've had a MF protector on my digital camera for six months and it still looks new (and invisible.)
I always buy two-packs but I wish I could get 10-packs.
Hopefully they'll be available from vendors in the US soon, at lower prices and with cheaper shipping.
tehkseven's review of martin fields vs dcmugen (generic)
Bicster_ said:
I have an Martin Fields protector installed on my N1 as well. I'm pleased with it.
I agree with the review here, but I'd like to add that these things do get scratched quite easily. I have one on my G1 and it looks like sh*t after 6 months. It's scuffed and scratched like crazy. Since the MF protectors are not cheap, it's annoying to replace them, but they do their job quite well. Note that I keep my phone in my pocket, often rubbing against keys and coins.
I've had a MF protector on my digital camera for six months and it still looks new (and invisible.)
I always buy two-packs but I wish I could get 10-packs.
Hopefully they'll be available from vendors in the US soon, at lower prices and with cheaper shipping.
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This sounds to be the exact same as dcmugen's screen protectors. It confirms the findings of tehkseven's reviews.
I really dont understand why anyone would pay five to ten times as much as one would need to... you all need to try out dcmugen's products because I really haven't found a seller with better quality to price ratio. Search 'epikcase' on eBay.
laughter95 said:
This sounds to be the exact same as dcmugen's screen protectors. It confirms the findings of tehkseven's reviews.
I really dont understand why anyone would pay five to ten times as much as one would need to... you all need to try out dcmugen's products because I really haven't found a seller with better quality to price ratio. Search 'epikcase' on eBay.
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Link to dcmugen?
uansari1 said:
Link to dcmugen?
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His ebay seller ID is dcmugen88
Thanks, will order some dcmugen88 product. The material sounds the same. His 5 pack is cheap! If it works ok I'll have a new protector every month instead of every year, lol.
I too just ordered (2) of the Anti-Glare ones from dcmugen for $4.49 shipped.
I will report back once I receive it and will give a review.
Just a follow up review, now that I've had the protector on for a little while.
I usually keep my phone in my shirt pocket but I decided to mix it up and
Throw it into my pants pocket (with keys) for the purpose of this review.
Looks
Still very impressed by the looks of the protector. Nothing has changed that
I can tell; no peeling effect, no lint collection (again, could be due to skin
protector lint collection lol).
Scratching
Haha, as mentioned by another reader, this protector does indeed scratch.
Now, here's the funny thing: It didn't scratch due to my keys, but rather my
cleaning cloth.
Some cleaning cloths burn the edges and while I'm usually
careful with those, I figured if this thing has been taking my keys, it should
be able to hold out; not the case.
It's a very deep scratch, so much so that I can feel it under my finger.
The cool thing is though, I cannot see the scratch under normal circumstances.
I can't feel it under normal use either.
Seriously though, I can't even see the scratch under daily use.
Only by flashing direct light can I see the scratch, and by moving my finger
slowly over it can I feel it.
Note: scratch is maybe 1/8th of an inch long.
Clarity
Screen still displays beautifully and pictures are still awesome.
Cleanliness
Still remains pretty clean throughout a few days, only wiping it down every
two or three days. Pretty darn good I guess.
Conclusion
While I'm sort of sick that it got scratched, it's so unnoticable that I haven't
felt the need to replace it. Don't know how long it will last, but if ever
I decide to replace it, I'll post again and give the reasons why.
I'm still quite pleased with this protector and I don't think I'll ever use
anything besides these static cling protectors (be it Martin Fields or another).
hey Xavina. Are you near kea'ahala pl? looks like the pictures are taken from my old house almost haha.
Nevermind. But the bkgrnd is close.
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My old driveway. Anyways off topic ... carry on.

Scratches on screen.

Anybody have any methods for taking care of scratches on the tb screen? I know somebody the other day that the tb uses a type of gorilla glass.. I was just wondering if there was a way to polish it out or anything along those lines, I really hate to use the screen protectors.
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I haven't seen anything yet that will reliably "fill the gap" that results from scratches. If indeed the glass is Gorilla Glass, it certainly seems to be scratch prone. There is a nice, long thread here titled something like "I tried to scratch my TB with keys". Perhaps you may find something useful in there (though I think half the posts were flames, lol)
This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.
dalrym05 said:
This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.
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This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.
I use a screen protector and while the screen protector has scratches all over it, the edges (The screen that the protector doesn't cover) have absolutely nothing on them. You can see scratches going from the protector and then should continue on to the screen but they just don't. At least for me, this screen is pretty solid.
Also, I use my kickstand everyday for videos, youtube, etc. and have no flaking what so ever. I have owned the phone since the day of launch and it still looks like new.
nmyeti said:
This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.
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I had the flaking issue on the kickstand too.. I just scraped all the coating off with the round part of a paper clip. Now it's not a problem anymore and I think it looks better this way. Also the Google logo does not come off with the coating it's etched into the metal. So simple solution to this problem...
What's up with this flaking nonsense? My kickstand looks fine :|
It is poly-silica combo it will scratch. If you don't like screen protectors then I guess your gonna have scratches. Keep in mind if you never turn it on it will never break.
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nmyeti said:
This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.
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I had the flaking issue on the kickstand too.. I just scraped all the coating off with the round part of a paper clip. Now it's not a problem anymore and I think it looks better this way. Also the Google logo does not come off with the coating it's etched into the metal. So simple solution to this problem...
sammael1069 said:
Keep in mind if you never turn it on it will never break.
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LOL! This seriously made me laugh!
dalrym05 said:
This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.
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so did you use a diamond glaze compound by meguiars, AND a standard car wax ? or just standard car wax?
thanks for the replies
ElectroFetish said:
...I really hate to use the screen protectors.
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Use the Ultra Crystal here http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html and you'll never know it's on unless you look too closely.
Never used a screen protector with my Dinc and never had a scratch. Used the Steinheil for years with my BlackBerrys. After reading about the issues folks were having with their Tbolt screens scratching, I put this protector on a month or so ago, and don't even notice it. I don't use a case.
I never use a case because I always holster my TB. But after wiping my phone off nightly I do see scratches. I'm upset with this. Thanks for link for ultra crystal
how deep are the scrathes? i baby my phones, like BABY since i have OCD, so i have yet to get my first scratch.
+1 on the polycarb suspicion. My screen picked up a scratch somehwere, even though I baby it. I attempted to polish it out with a fine cut polish. While it did lighten, I can see very subtle evidence of my polishing. There appears to be a difference in the texture of the glass where I polished, almost as if I removed a coating.
I have since installed SGP Ultra Crystal which I really like. Never needed protector with my BB Storm..two years of heavy torture and not a single minute scratch. Go figure. I also have the kickstand flaking. I've really treated this TBolt like a piece of delicate china and its falling apart lol.
My screen and kickstand both look like **** now. I went from launch of D1 until TB launch with my D1 in the SAME POCKETS at the SAME JOB, and it had no scratches... The only blemish on it was the Gold paint on the Camera button came off...
Gorilla glass... PFFT... more like Gorilla ass!!!!
Awesome, thanks for the endorsement!

what the different with those screen protectors?

http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
I don't use them ...
farwish said:
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
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Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?

Any one using S7 without a screen protector?

As the title suggests guys. After spending tons of money in numerous screen protectors i found out that, a protector that's completely clear and covers the full screen doesn't exist. So any one using their phone without one? If yes, then how is it scratching up? Are the scratches too much? I absolutely baby my phone and, after 1 year it looks completely new. As i intend on using it for one more year, how do you think it will hold up without a screen protector? Any input will be appreciated.
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As the title suggests guys. After spending tons of money in numerous screen protectors i found out that, a protector that's completely clear and covers the full screen doesn't exist. So any one using their phone without one? If yes, then how is it scratching up? Are the scratches too much? I absolutely baby my phone and, after 1 year it looks completely new. As i intend on using it for one more year, how do you think it will hold up without a screen protector? Any input will be appreciated.
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I don't use one, but I do have it in a Speck Candyshell case. No problems so far, but I've only had it for about 10 months and have dropped it on the ground probably about 10 times.
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I don't use one, but I do have it in a Speck Candyshell case. No problems so far, but I've only had it for about 10 months and have dropped it on the ground probably about 10 times.
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Thanks mate. What about the screen scratches? Are they noticable?
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Thanks mate. What about the screen scratches? Are they noticable?
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I've used my S7 without a screen protector since the first day (bought it @ launch) and there are no scratches at all.
I don't even have a case or anything like that, the S7 is just rock solid.
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I've used my S7 without a screen protector since the first day (bought it @ launch) and there are no scratches at all.
I don't even have a case or anything like that, the S7 is just rock solid.
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Good to hear that. Eases my mind.
Everyday items shouldn't leave any scratches on your phone (keys, coins, tabletops etc etc) its the smaller materials the causes most scratches. Sand is the worst, rock/cement particles and obviously dropping the device will leave marks. I've used my phone since launch and the glass is perfect. Just use a case with a good lip over the glass and your good.
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Everyday items shouldn't leave any scratches on your phone (keys, coins, tabletops etc etc) its the smaller materials the causes most scratches. Sand is the worst, rock/cement particles and obviously dropping the device will leave marks. I've used my phone since launch and the glass is perfect. Just use a case with a good lip over the glass and your good.
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Thanks man. Appreciate the input.
I don't mean to scare you but any unprotected drop over 4ft has potential to crack the screen. Ive cracked the lower left and upper right corners of my S7 flat. There's also a crack from one corner to an edge which passes through the screen. I've since ordered https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XHYGG56/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Every day objects are fine, concrete and drops, not so much.
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I don't mean to scare you but any unprotected drop over 4ft has potential to crack the screen. Ive cracked the lower left and upper right corners of my S7 flat. There's also a crack from one corner to an edge which passes through the screen. I've since ordered https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XHYGG56/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Every day objects are fine, concrete and drops, not so much.
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I know that drops will essentially kill the phone. I intend to use a case for that. What i am worried about is how will the screen scratch up in day to day use without a protector.
I have never used a screen protector on any of my phones. I have never had a cracked screen. I don't see how they can really work and they generally look crap on an expensive phone pretty quickly. One thing, the S7 is a pretty heavy phone compared to the S4 which weighed nothing, so if you drop it the screen is possibly more likely to crack if it hits something. I alway use a case and that has saved the phone many times.
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As the title suggests guys. After spending tons of money in numerous screen protectors i found out that, a protector that's completely clear and covers the full screen doesn't exist. So any one using their phone without one? If yes, then how is it scratching up? Are the scratches too much? I absolutely baby my phone and, after 1 year it looks completely new. As i intend on using it for one more year, how do you think it will hold up without a screen protector? Any input will be appreciated.
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I baby my phone too -- always in the same front pocket -- nothing else in that pocket with it, to protect the screen -- always lay it face-down on clean and flat surfaces, etc.
When I got my phone, I searched high and low for a quality glass screen protector too, and you are right, there is none (that works well with a case). I figured I could try no screen protector, because the Corning Gorilla glass these days is relatively impervious to scratches and dirt, so I've been going with a slim case and no screen protector for a year now.
Not a scratch anywhere, and it looks much better than previous phones with screen protectors (especially the plastic ones).
gruuvin said:
I baby my phone too -- always in the same front pocket -- nothing else in that pocket with it, to protect the screen -- always lay it face-down on clean and flat surfaces, etc.
When I got my phone, I searched high and low for a quality glass screen protector too, and you are right, there is none (that works well with a case). I figured I could try no screen protector, because the Corning Gorilla glass these days is relatively impervious to scratches and dirt, so I've been going with a slim case and no screen protector for a year now.
Not a scratch anywhere, and it looks much better than previous phones with screen protectors (especially the plastic ones).
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Thank you so much man. I was really confused about using the phone without a protector. Your experience would really help me make the decision.
Okay, so this an update. After so many encouraging info from fellow members, i have been rocking my s7 witnout a screen protector for about a week. And i am happy go say that the display isnt as fragile as i thought it to be. Still no scratch, knock on wood. This is a thank you to all the people who answered and helped me take my decision.
I used s7 without screen protector....
No protector here - and no scratches. I've used two different cases (Spigen and a Diztronic). The screen stays off any surfaces. Ordinary items have not scratched my screen.
Screens held up fine without one since release
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I haven't had a screen protector on my S7 since the day I bought it. That was about 2 years ago and there still aren't any scratches on it at all. I always make sure that the screen is against my leg in my shorts/trouser pocket and my right hand leg pocket is solely for my phone. Nothing else ever goes in there besides the phone and that seems to work pretty well. I do have a decent rear cover (VRS Design) that has a nice raised lip around the screen too. I haven't dropped the phone yet though.
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Thanks mate. What about the screen scratches? Are they noticable?
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I think new batches of S7 are not Gorilla Glass. Mine is 2 months old and in 2 weeks it developed a lot of small scratches and 3-4 very deep ones. I never had a phone with such a bad glass and i wear it with care, never with coins or keys in my pocket or other mistreating. I still have a havey used old S2, S5, OP3, all worn for lots of time by me, all in perfect condition, not a single scratch (never had a screen protector on any of these). However my new S7 is totally ruined as the glass is all scratched. This cannot be Gorilla Glass. It even has a lot of very small scratches in perfectly predictable places on the screen where I touch more often, clearly developed by finger usage because it fits with most used places of on screen controls/menus. It is worse than a plastic protector actually. Tried to return after two weeks because it was clear that any easy touch causes a new scratch. I even doubted it is an original Samsung product. It went to official Samsung service and returned as not deffective (but proven to be genuine Samsung). After this experience I sworn never to buy a Samsung again.
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I think new batches of S7 are not Gorilla Glass..
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Unlikely they would change the spec like that.. is your phone a copy?

Curved screen and protectors

They said it would not cover the whole screen but I didn't think it would be this extreme. Looking straight down on the device you'd see pixels outside of the screen protector on both sides.
Riffue.cn
This one is wider and covers all the pixels, but since it does not follow the screen curve there's about 1.5mm of free hanging protector on each side.
Panzer.me
For this one they tried to curve it along the screen edge, but it didn't quite fit, which caused large areas where the protector would lift from the screen. The downwards facing edge of the protector seems to be covered in the glue like substance, the central area of the protector did not stick to the phone in any way. Possibly because of the bad fit there would be some air between the protector and phone in the middle of the screen, this caused some missed taps. Away of the center of the protector the touch recognition would be better. This one seemed the least susceptible to fingerprints.
Thank you for the testing.
So I will not buy one of these.
Maybe I will try a thin l foil or I will use it without any protection.
thanks to who invented these fu*king curved screens.. for us that always use glass protectors it is simply a nightmare.. or you use protectors as big as the pixeled area and live with the edges coming off, or you take protectors smaller than the pixeled area that looks bad and don't protect all the screen.. damn
curious to know if this curved glass would be any better?
https://www.roxfit.mobi/collections...ed-clear-tempered-glass?variant=2219880841228
I am on the road so I cant post any pics, but I have the roxfit curved protector. It does match the screen except the curve isn't perfect thus the very edge around the entire screen is collecting dust. With the screen sensitivity issue however I'm debating on pulling it off. Hitting the same button 2-3 times to get something to register sucks
To be honest, this is what is putting me off buying this phone is the curved screen, i really dont see the point of it to be honest, tempted to jusct pick up the XZ1 compact instead.
You really can't even tell the screen is curved at all. Just the edges are slightly. It's not even noticeable.
yeah if the curved screen is the only thing preventing you from getting this phone, forget it, apart from this (and you'll notice just if you use glass protectors) the phone is simply wonderful in all other aspects l
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You really can't even tell the screen is curved at all. Just the edges are slightly. It's not even noticeable.
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FcukBloat said:
yeah if the curved screen is the only thing preventing you from getting this phone, forget it, apart from this (and you'll notice just if you use glass protectors) the phone is simply wonderful in all other aspects l
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Thanks both, best go and check it out in person, perhaps judging it before i have seen it in my hand is a bit negative.
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Bugs of a new phone. The protector I got also overhanged into the curve. (I was under the impression that it was a curved screen protector when buying it, but it was not.) I assume these companies didn't have exact specs or physical phones to get it perfect with, and since we all want our phones protected from day one, they have to release what they got. :/
Has anyone found a screen protector that fits halfway decently yet?
i used a liquid screen protector called nanofixit in the netherlands. it makes the screen super smooth and didn't have a scratch after a week usage without any case. i had to send it back for repair and will have it back tomorrow.
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I am on the road so I cant post any pics, but I have the roxfit curved protector. It does match the screen except the curve isn't perfect thus the very edge around the entire screen is collecting dust. With the screen sensitivity issue however I'm debating on pulling it off. Hitting the same button 2-3 times to get something to register sucks
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I've tried this one as well and might have a worse fit than what you're experiencing. It was impossible to get a complete seal in the glue around the edge. The bad fit made the center of the screen an especially bad place the get touches registered, even worse then the panzer.me glass. IIRC there was also a shimmering issue between the edge of the LCD and whatever non-stick film they've put under the protector.
Does curved screen protectors exist for other phones that does not rely on a glue around the edges to stay put?
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Dxue said:
i used a liquid screen protector called nanofixit in the netherlands. it makes the screen super smooth and didn't have a scratch after a week usage without any case. i had to send it back for repair and will have it back tomorrow.
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Based on threads in this forum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/nanofixit-liquid-screen-protector-nano-t3215739
and amazon reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Nanofixit-ONE-Titanium-OFFICAL-antibacterial/product-reviews/B019Y4IPU4
it seems the nanofixit products might not be worth the asking price. (Scam perhaps?)
Did you get your phone back? What was the issue? Do you usually get scratches on phones in a weeks time?
I'm asking because fail to see how a thin layer of liquid could provide any scratch resistance, besides whatever the screen already has. And as such it might just make liquid slide off the screen easily for a while and not much else.
It is my belief the nano liquid products are a scam. Granted I've never tried it myself.....but I don't see how it could possibly work.
Based on threads in this forum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-nano-t3215739
and amazon reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Nanofixit-ONE...ews/B019Y4IPU4
it seems the nanofixit products might not be worth the asking price. (Scam perhaps?)
Did you get your phone back? What was the issue? Do you usually get scratches on phones in a weeks time?
I'm asking because fail to see how a thin layer of liquid could provide any scratch resistance, besides whatever the screen already has. And as such it might just make liquid slide off the screen easily for a while and not much else.
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It is my belief the nano liquid products are a scam. Granted I've never tried it myself.....but I don't see how it could possibly work.
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it was my misstake for not being clearer when posting my message, I have another problem with the phone which is not related to the screen at all. My phone can't receive incoming calls for some reason. The screen is still in a tip top shape and i have also accidentally dropped the phone on a stone floor from around 0,5 meters. Nothing to see on the screen (or the phone for that matter). The reason that it can work in my opinion is that you can have very hard plastic nowadays that is not worse than metal (see carbon fiber for example). If they can keep it in a liuid state and it can harden itself out when in contact with air, why is it not possible? Chemistry is nowadays so advanced I wouldn't be surprised if they can make even better nano coatings, if you have enough money for it
Bought Skinomi's protector and it was a perfect fit. It is not a hard screen protector its more of a clear flexible skin. Due to it being flexible it molded right to the curved edges of the screen without any issues. Until they come up with a hard protector this should do just fine though, atleast itll keep minor scuffs and scratches to a minimum.
Ultimate Shield seems to do its job - at least for me. Uses glue to stick, but covers the whole screen. Makes a bit harder to register touch sometimes.

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