Coming from the nexus one, i noticed that there are now aim and msn messager sync options. Does anyone know if the stand alone instant messaging client uses push or not?
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I believe the built-in IM client uses SMS, so it should be near instant. Be careful if you don't have unlimited texts on your plan.
stoli412 said:
I believe the built-in IM client uses SMS, so it should be near instant. Be careful if you don't have unlimited texts on your plan.
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Maybe on the older VZW phones... but why would it use SMS when it should be using data on a smart phone?
Granted, I just use Meebo and never set up those accounts.
METDeath said:
Maybe on the older VZW phones... but why would it use SMS when it should be using data on a smart phone?
Granted, I just use Meebo and never set up those accounts.
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I can't answer the question as to why, but I'm 99% positive the built-in app uses SMS. Whenever you sign up it shows some sort of message that it will use your SMS.
Actually if you have an unlimited SMS plan, it's not a bad idea. You get near-instant IM notification pretty much anywhere you have a 1X signal, don't have to worry about a background service running and draining extra battery, etc.
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I am currently running wm6 and am looking for an aim messenger. I do not have a data plan but I do have unlimited text messages. Since the agile messenger uses data, would I rack up a huge bill using data or can i have it use my text messages instead? I am just a little confused about using data vs. sms. Also, does agile messenger work with WiFi? Thanks for the help!
tman1425 said:
I am currently running wm6 and am looking for an aim messenger. I do not have a data plan but I do have unlimited text messages. Since the agile messenger uses data, would I rack up a huge bill using data or can i have it use my text messages instead? I am just a little confused about using data vs. sms. Also, does agile messenger work with WiFi? Thanks for the help!
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1. Most messengers use data. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323654 -, making sure you follow the links back to the PPC article.
I don't know of a specific Smartphone version of any IM app to support SMS messages - as opposed to the PPC platform. I may be wrong, though.
2. are you really sure using data is THAT expensive? 10-20 kbytes an hour? That's most these IM apps use.
I just got my phone about a month and was looking at my first bill and saw that there was 11 dollars worth of text messages on it and i have never received a text or sent one. I do however use parlingo, but i was using beejive, do either of these programs use text messaging? Or could it be that i have email setup on my phone inside the tf3d tab?
ims count against texts
All IMS? I thought that there are programs that strictly use the nets bandwidth instead of ims services..? Does anyone know of such apps?
IM+ uses the internet and the IMs don't count as text messages.
Palringo does not count as text messages; it relies entirely on your data connection. The default instant messaging program that comes with the AT&T stock ROM is the one that uses text messages.
I have never used BeeJive, but it seems to be that most third-party instant messaging programs rely on data. Palringo gets my vote in any case. The functionality is good and it's free.
Other than that, I don't know why you would be getting charged. The E-mail tab definitely does not use texts: it is just a fancy and somewhat inefficient way to display your inbox(es) from Pocket Outlook. Your bill should display the phone number of every incoming/outgoing text, if that helps you track down the problem. You may need to request a "comprehensive" bill or whatever it is, since AT&T started mailing super-condensed bills after the iPhone data fiasco.
I was using Beejive and noticed that chats sent trhough it were being counted as text messages. However, I now use Parlingo and that is not the case. Parlingo FTW!
Greetings,
When I purchased my ADP1 for here in Australia I was disappointed at first that the IM client did not come with MSN/Windows Live Messenger like it's T-Mobile G1 bretheren. But I was less upset when I read that the MSN client actually sends SMS's instead of using the internet. Unfortunately I can't find any post confirming/denying this!?
Can someone please confirm this if it is true? Because the JFv1.41 with RC33 installed on my ADP1 has it available under IM, and although somewhat slow to load up (I do have many contacts) it looks/feels as though its on the internet... I am still paranoid I will end up with a bill for thousands of dollars due to SMS's overseas to T-Mobile.
Cheers
Leon
PS. And for that matter can someone also confirm AIM and Yahoo! is not sending via SMS but rather internet? It may seem silly, but peace of mind for many I'm sure.
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here is the answer...
from how I get charged, i honestly can see that it is BOTH text message and data because u need data/internet to access those messenger services and each message u enter in msn live or aim counts as a text message.
thankfully for me, i have family unlimited texting and internet/data plan for my phone... but those messenger usually lags unless u are on 3G or some better connection.
Is that for RC30 and RC8 or just RC30? I thought it just used data.
TommyPickles said:
Greetings,
When I purchased my ADP1 for here in Australia I was disappointed at first that the IM client did not come with MSN/Windows Live Messenger like it's T-Mobile G1 bretheren. But I was less upset when I read that the MSN client actually sends SMS's instead of using the internet. Unfortunately I can't find any post confirming/denying this!?
Can someone please confirm this if it is true? Because the JFv1.41 with RC33 installed on my ADP1 has it available under IM, and although somewhat slow to load up (I do have many contacts) it looks/feels as though its on the internet... I am still paranoid I will end up with a bill for thousands of dollars due to SMS's overseas to T-Mobile.
Cheers
Leon
PS. And for that matter can someone also confirm AIM and Yahoo! is not sending via SMS but rather internet? It may seem silly, but peace of mind for many I'm sure.
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The Y! and AIM apps have always been through SMS on TMo builds for all of their phones. I've heard conflicting reports about MSN though but I would put money on the bulk of it being through SMS. Honestly though, IM through SMS is terrible and has been for years. It's laggy, never up to date and loves to double and triple sends messages. It's the price you pay for not having a data plan.
I know palringo is working on a android app. it is in beta now, they use data only.
http://forum.palringo.com/en/gb/forum/discussion-rooms/enhancement-requests/android-t1350
TimSykes said:
I know palringo is working on a android app. it is in beta now, they use data only.
http://forum.palringo.com/en/gb/forum/discussion-rooms/enhancement-requests/android-t1350
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I've been quietly waiting for these guys as well but at this rate they are turning into another Cerulean Studios. Soon™.
HAHA good point.
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HAHA good point.
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Joking aside they do have a solid product but at this point I'm just tired of waiting indefinitely. Although, as a G1 owner I should be used to this by now.
Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
vr24 said:
Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
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Do you know anything about Australian cellular providers or the OP? No? I didn't think so. If you have nothing to add then move on without brain vomiting on the Post button.
Do I get that right: Every IM messenger from market sends out sms instead of data messages as it normally should? So Hello AIM, Membo IM etc. too?
no the g1 built in IM program uses SMS. Hello AIM uses the internet connection.
Oh, thank god. I was confused by this "The Y! and AIM apps have always been through SMS on TMo builds for all of their phones"....
Thx!
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Who cares, you should have unlimited data and messaging when using the G1 anyways.
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with the g1 plan you get unlimited data, and I think 400 messaging. Or people like myself who dont use the g1 plan have unlimited data, and no messaging but still use t-mobile.
I'm on JF 1.41 RC8 and I just used my prepaid sim in my G1 and chatted on msn for a bit then sent 1 text messages afterwards.
It only deducted the credit for my 1 sms afterwards so I'm fairly confident the IM app (at least Live Messenger) just uses data.
You can use all messengers (aol, icq, msn etc) through standard gtalk application. Just configure jabber transport from other network to gtalk server. Instructions can be googled easily (here an example: http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/general-other-im-news/33739-connect-google-talk-aim-msn-yahoo.html)
Live Messenger Problem
Running the latest JesusFreke RC8 update, with the extra IM clients built into it, and I am receiving the following error when I try to sign into Live Messenger:
Unable to sign into the MSN service. Please try again later.
(Detail: Sorry, the phone number cannot be read from your sim card. Please contact your operator for help).
I have the phone on a T-Mobile contract, and I ported my number over from another network when I got the phone.
Any ideas on what could cause this problem?
Someone on another forum said they could only get live messenger to work while on wifi. Dont know if that helps.
Are you using the stock im apps? They use sms texts to send not data. This might be the problem you are having.
Yes, I am using the stock IM apps. Are there better alternatives?
if im gonna use, for example, an IM app like windows live messenger, will it count in the messaging plan? or the data plan? how about third party apps like Fring?
P.S. im in USA. thanks.
It's not like sending sms, so it uses your data plan
yah, but im a little confused because it says sms, mms, pic msg, and IM in the messaging plan. so i guess i need more comments from at&t, or t-mobile users.
if you use the built in app. If you use a third party IM client like Slick, it just uses the Dataconnection, your provider has basically no chance knowing what you do on that connection, and of course it can not count as SMS if it is not sent that way.
a lot of IM clients that come pre installed on devices use SMS for sending IMs, solely to generate income. But basically all third parties you can download from the net use the data network and will only use a few kilobytes a day.
wow thanks. exactly the answer im looking for.
another question. how about windows live messenger? it's not pre-installed but it was recommended. hmmm
DeskSMS was exactly what I was looking for, but the free trial is over and they want year fees.. Is there a free alternative to DeskSMS that will do the same thing?
Hello you can use "mightytext"
have fun ;-)
easy android sms or mighty text although i would use with caution at least with desksms we knew it was coming from cwm (trustworthy imo) texts are sensitive data you dont want any app/site reading and sending them
I use Google Voice which among other things allows you to SMS from a desktop browser.
Google Voice, as far as I know, don't let you text and receive text from your personal mobile number right? That's what I liked about DeskSMS. A one time price would've been okay but to pay yearly? That's not good..
It does. Your carrier has to support integration with GV, iirc. With sprint, GV offered to make my actual phone number the GV number. So when I text from the browser it is from my mobile number.
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What about Go SMS ? It's a alternative to decksms and can send SMS to other people . And there are alot of themes for this app .
I really like handcent and its free as well.
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When i first found the app i thought it was such an amazing thing. I purchased my subscription well before my initial free period was over. I tell you I do not regret it at all. Texts from people are automatically backed up in my Gmail account. If i need to find a text someone sent i just log into Gmail and search in:chats for the name or number or a snippet of what i'm looking for. The features, convenience, and how well it's built is worth the investment.
It depends on which feature you really need...to text from my pc I use AirDroid that is free and does the work gratly!
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DeskSMS was exactly what I was looking for, but the free trial is over and they want year fees.. Is there a free alternative to DeskSMS that will do the same thing?
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It is $5 per year man... That is peanuts for the service you are getting. Regarding free apps to do that, i'm with the other ppl, nothing is free. They have to be getting something from you. Always my mentality when downloading free apps.
Something to think about.
I'm in the same boat, I have a few more days of DeskSMS access and I like the dark skin as well, but I actually dislike DeskSMS mainly because I'm not seeing both sides of the conversation sync in GMail (only received syncs) and I still need to figure out how to make synced SMS's in GMail sync as read. Although I do like the quick access button that doesn't force you to open the application in a dedicated tab, but if you do want a dedicated tab the functionality is there I just never see myself using it. Then again the quick access button is very noticeably laggy.
I also use GVoice for business use and I prefer keeping my carrier's phone number for personal use. Problem is I can't use my carrier's phone number to text from GVoice unless I have GVoice take over my carrier's phone number.
Are there any work arounds I've overlooked? I basically use DeskSMS to text from my PC without having to pickup my phone constantly.
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phaberest said:
It depends on which feature you really need...to text from my pc I use AirDroid that is free and does the work gratly!
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I also use Airdroid sometimes, and it is good for messaging and for uploading smaller files to my phone. I tried using other apps (I forgot which ones unfortunately) to text from my Mac but I still find DeskSMS to be the best. It sends messages right to my Trillian (or AIM but it lags) and it typically works. Sometimes it stops and you gotta do a little tinkering to figure out why it isn't working, but for the most part I haven't found anything that beats it (especially when I'm at work and don't want my boss to see me texting).
I paid for the year, I didn't even realize it was a trial at first but I happily paid the small fee to keep using it. I've only paid for a few apps in my lifetime (Call Control and Titanium Backup basically), but it does a lot of good things for me and it was worth it.
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I'm in the same boat, I have a few more days of DeskSMS access and I like the dark skin as well, but I actually dislike DeskSMS mainly because I'm not seeing both sides of the conversation sync in GMail (only received syncs) and I still need to figure out how to make synced SMS's in GMail sync as read. Although I do like the quick access button that doesn't force you to open the application in a dedicated tab, but if you do want a dedicated tab the functionality is there I just never see myself using it. Then again the quick access button is very noticeably laggy.
I also use GVoice for business use and I prefer keeping my carrier's phone number for personal use. Problem is I can't use my carrier's phone number to text from GVoice unless I have GVoice take over my carrier's phone number.
Are there any work arounds I've overlooked? I basically use DeskSMS to text from my PC without having to pickup my phone constantly.
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I am the dev for an SMS/MMS forwarding app called PhoneLeash. Its not free but its a one-time fee. PhoneLeash forwards to email or to a second phone (via SMS). It forwards both incoming and outgoing texts so you get a nice threaded view in GMail (for instance). And you can reply via email (or the second phone). It has some other phone locating features as well. Perhaps y'all will take a look!
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Had to switch also
I kept having problems since I paid for it.
I kept getting the error: {"multicast_id":6603055600577454525,"success":0,"failure":1,"canonical_ids":0,"results":[{"error":"InvalidRegistration"}]}
So I chalk it up to, I paid money money for something useless. I still have 263 days left. So, for 102 days I have had no one help me with the issue so I left DeskSMS. I doubt I will get a refund either.
Alternative to DeskSMS: MooMle
mapheG2 said:
DeskSMS was exactly what I was looking for, but the free trial is over and they want year fees.. Is there a free alternative to DeskSMS that will do the same thing?
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Hey why don't you try MooMle, it's a brand new app, it's free and it does work!!!
I downloaded it yesterday and I'm loving it!