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The phone is fast, the screen is beautiful & I know it's capable of so much. So far I'm not thrilled with the Sense UI. My big issue is the contacts & dial screens. Problem is coming from a N1 where I had NO crapware, to this is a bit overwhelming. Really the phone dialer is horrible. I just want to use the stock 2.3.3 dialer I've grown so fond of, easy to use. This one is a nightmare. If I wanted to spell out people's names with a dialpad, I'd still have a flip phone! The contact import was a mess. Never had these issues with stock ROM. I don't want to give up & get the G2X, because I love the phone.
Until they can be rooted, what can I do? Am I the only one who's bothered by this? It's a "phone" & the phone aspect is the worst part of the UI!
Get an third party dialer/contacts app from the market.... search for dialer, you'll get a bunch...
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Get an third party dialer/contacts app from the market.... search for dialer, you'll get a bunch...
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Thanks. I did download 1 but haven't found any yet that I really like. Sometimes less is more.
Do you find much of the font to be too small? I couldn't find any global settings, each app (mail, SMS, etc. ) had to be changed.
Just the font in general on the device? I can see some people saying that considering the display is qHD and there are so many pixels.... but it looks great on my young eyes... if you asked my dad, im sure he' say its too small though, ha.
I used to use Dialer One for a while, I liked it... now im using GoDialer/Contacts, its probably the most popular one out there I believe, supports multiple skins, lots of features... couldnt be more happy.
As for fonts... you need to wait for root so you can either change the screen density or use spare parts.
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Just the font in general on the device? I can see some people saying that considering the display is qHD and there are so many pixels.... but it looks great on my young eyes... if you asked my dad, im sure he' say its too small though, ha.
I used to use Dialer One for a while, I liked it... now im using GoDialer/Contacts, its probably the most popular one out there I believe, supports multiple skins, lots of features... couldnt be more happy.
As for fonts... you need to wait for root so you can either change the screen density or use spare parts.
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Thanks, good points. Yes the res is excellent. Go Dialer/Contacts is the one I downloaded, seemed the best. I guess I'm just so used to vanilla coming from an N1 w/ 2.3.4.
I love the Sense dialer above stock because of the smart dial feature, and the stock dialer looks so bland to me..
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The phone is fast, the screen is beautiful & I know it's capable of so much. So far I'm not thrilled with the Sense UI. My big issue is the contacts & dial screens. Problem is coming from a N1 where I had NO crapware, to this is a bit overwhelming. Really the phone dialer is horrible. I just want to use the stock 2.3.3 dialer I've grown so fond of, easy to use. This one is a nightmare. If I wanted to spell out people's names with a dialpad, I'd still have a flip phone! The contact import was a mess. Never had these issues with stock ROM. I don't want to give up & get the G2X, because I love the phone.
Until they can be rooted, what can I do? Am I the only one who's bothered by this? It's a "phone" & the phone aspect is the worst part of the UI!
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I feel your pain.... I started the same type of thread after searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114765
but it seems the only workarounds won't happen until root is established because all of the dialers on the market SUCK
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I feel your pain.... I started the same type of thread after searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114779
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114765
but it seems the only workarounds won't happen until root is established because all of the dialers on the market SUCK
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Glad to know I'm not alone. Guess we are the only two who hate this! I never felt the need to root my N1, but now I can't wait to root this phone! (I know they're will be excellent dev support & help for us who've never bothered to root before.
BTW, is there a HTC Sensation Group yet, I didn't find one?
First off...I think I've come to the conclusion I'm a sense guy at heart.
I've used all the major sense ROMs for this bolt. BAMF, Virus (Airborne and Synergy), Chingy stuff, and DroidTh3ory's stuff. (I"m sure a few others I've forgotten).
I've also tried CM7 several times, OMFGB, and recently Th3ory's AOSP run.
I get smaller footprint, more customization, better battery life (I'm told, can't say I've left an AOSP on mine long enough to confirm/deny that personally).
I use my phone for 60% business/40% personal.
I know you can download an app or theme for just about everything...but at what point do you say enough is enough. I'm trying to make AOSP do what Sense already does?...most of the time for free.
Example... Sense 3.0 MMS...cleaner, nicer. Sense email client, way better than AOSP offering. I use Exchange for email. I know all about Touchdown, K9, moxier, Enhanced Email, etc. But on baked in AOSP email you can't even move an email to a sub folder??
The dialer is horrible, IMO. So I downloaded dialer one. I like sense's dialer, if you start typing a name or number, it starts pulling them up. Reminds me of how easy a blackberry is to use for dialing.
I like the people Widget, so I paid for launcher pro plus, their people widget as well as calendar/agenda widget is ok. It would be nice if the facebook pictures synced up properly with their people widget, but I've read this is a known AOSP issue. Again...buying/installing a 3rd party app for something that just works in Sense.
I'm not looking for a flame war. I know there's a HUGE majority of AOSP love out there...I get it. Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here?
Now, AOSP is not all terrible. The ability to choose different launchers, change the number of home screens, how they rotate, different home dock icons, ability to change row/columns.... There are a lot of pluses for sure... so please don't think I'm kicking dirt on the AOSP guys. I appreciate good work from ALL the developers...it's a thankless and never ending job...
One of the main reasons I am sticking with Sense-based ROMs is the quick lookup feature.
I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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On the CM dialer, you can hit the search key and type someone's name.
I like AOSP cause thats what I learned on. Sense pisses me off more than it helps- too many things that just dont work right for me. For example (and this is small stuff, but stuff that just bugs me), click on the address bar on the browser. Start typing something to search....click enter, aww crap, it automatically put a www. in front of it...back up...delete the www. and try again. I can visit Sense once in a while, but always end up back at AOSP. I dont like re-learning, my original HTC Nexus with AOSP was still the best phone I ever had.
I love sense. I came from a Droid X and after i got my TB i realized that 80% of apps and widgets and stuff that i downloaded was to make it look and operate like sense. Like a world clock, a stop watch and good calender widget, the sense clock...the list goes on. Yes there are some things i miss from launchers i used but overall sense is good. Very functional and its got the eye candy.
I dont get why you u cant just turn sense off in settings like you could on my htc imagio. Made it much easier for people who prefer one or the other.
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I think the true answer lies somewhere in between, the beauty of the Android OS is customization. Personally, I am using an AOSP dailer with my BAMF Sense ROM.
My girlfriend loves cm7. I can't stand it. I tend to think of AOSP as Android for people that don't care how it looks or works. Android really isn't that elegant all by itself. It's a pig in need of lip stick. I just refuse to pay for something Sense gives me for free is another reason. That HTC clock is coming close to being an icon of Android itself. I personally think its time Google considered making their industrial modern art masterpiece into something pleasing to the eye and brain. I might give AOSP another go at some point. I'm pretty sure I won't like it because I like how Sense ties things together and it Just works. For free.
I've tried going back to AOSP as I loved AOSP on my OG Droid. I am a Sense-aholic now and I cannot go back. Especially running Sense 3.0 on das BAMF 4.9.
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I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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+1, thats exactly how I was. I thought I was an ASOP only guy after my D1, but every time I try ASOP now I find myself missing some of the things that sense gives you.
Gingeritis 3D is the most stable GB Sense rom I have used yet, battery life is unexpectedly good.
I like the hardware that Motorola has been putting out with android, but Sense blows Blur out of the water...
I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I use Sense simply because I don't have time to experiment with all the other ROM options. But whenever I have started to try some other individual app options, I usually find something I like better. Sense weather animations are cool eye-candy, but there are much more functional weather apps when you need them--and you just don't need a weather app on all the time. The stock clock is ridiculously huge and some of the other optional Sense clocks are OK, but there are a million other clocks out there for free. Found a free calendar widget that is much more customizable and therefore nicer looking with my many backgrounds. Touchdown is better email app (but not cheap). One thing at a time, everything is getting replaced. Not sure what elements of Sense I'm still using!
Thanks, Robertus
I love asop. I love being able to use launcher pro and hide apps that i don't want to see. I love the speed. And every app works great on asop. I've tried to go back to sense but i only last a day at the most. I think the dailer on stock android is awesome.
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I started off with Sense and tried the ASOP mods.
ASOP is very minimalistic. BUT Sense is TOO MUCH.
Google needs a good clock and a better calender and better icons. If they fix that, ill be solid with ASOP.
I like rooting so that I can get to enjoy both sense and aosp. Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Wow you clearly missed the point of the thread
Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here
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He was looking for opinions on Sense vs ASOP. He wants to know the pros and cons
I keep trying all the AOSP roms but keep going back to Das BAMF 1.8.6 because it's the most stable, has the least bugs, and the longest battery life. At least for me.
Its a personal preference, so there is no right or wrong answer. I definitely love AOSP. Just cleaner, every app works as intended, moddable.. most importantly (typically) ultra stable and fast.
I personally like the dialer, but usually people get hung up (no pun intended) on that. I love the fact that I can choose to dial, use favourites, have an easy to access call log, etc.. and if I can't manage to find someone in all that.. i can just hit the search key (you remember that little button on the bottom right side).
I do love some of the sense options but not enough to buy the farm. It would be nice to have a middle ground, but I guess i kind of do with AOSP and the mods.
I there any way to enable the quick lookup feature on AOSP? I mainly use quick lookup to easily translated web pages.
Hello XDA sensation users! I'm having some issues with my contact pictures syncing correctly. I'm not quite sure how to fix it. When I go into my actual contacts through phone --> People they won't show up.Hhowever, when I am using a messaging app such as handcent, the pictures display fine in the contact list!
Has anyone else heard of this issue before????
Btw, I am using insertcoin 3.4.5 <--(I think thats the latest one. If not, I'm on the latest one haha) Stock kernel, and I have some mods like the amaze cam. IDK if that makes any difference.
Please get back to me. Thanks!!
This is very frustrating >.<
Look, I'm bumping this because its really pissin me off haha. Does ANYBODY have a solution??
Like the title says, what are the changes that you most favor in ICS?
For me, these are my favorite improvements (in no particular order):
1. Ability to swipe down notification bar while screen locked
2. Improved camera speed and quality
3. Vastly improved gallery
4. ICS Keyboard
5. Voice - to - text
6. Browser
7. General appearance/asthetics
8. Email, Gmail, and calender
Just curious to see what everyone else likes (or dislikes for that matter) about ICS.
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Like the title says, what are the changes that you most favor in ICS?
For me, these are my favorite improvements (in no particular order):
1. Ability to swipe down notification bar while screen locked
2. Improved camera speed and quality
3. Vastly improved gallery
4. ICS Keyboard
5. Voice - to - text
6. Browser
7. General appearance/asthetics
8. Email, Gmail, and calender
Just curious to see what everyone else likes (or dislikes for that matter) about ICS.
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You said it all ;-)
I like specially the calendar (pinch to zoom and unzoom !) and the browser, almost as fast as my computer !
I can't really tell something that I dislike.
I love how "done" it feels. Everything matches the new UI theme perfectly. Also, it's stupidly fast. The one thing I was always jealous of WP7 and iOS users was that their OS's were just a bit smoother and faster. Now I can finally say that ours is perfectly how I want it.
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I love how "done" it feels.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Everything is integrated perfectly. Everything is in harmony. Everything just feels 'right'.
I think its a major game changer for Google. ICS wipes ios5 all over the floor and then some.
My next tablet will definitely be the Samsung 10.1 successor (currently using an iPad) running a flavour of Android 4.
I'm smitten
No launcher crashes any more, no lag when exiting applications or generally swiping back and forward, and faster stock browser are the main ones for me.
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I love how "done" it feels. Everything matches the new UI theme perfectly. Also, it's stupidly fast. The one thing I was always jealous of WP7 and iOS users was that their OS's were just a bit smoother and faster. Now I can finally say that ours is perfectly how I want it.
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I totally agree. We finally have a version of Android that feels "polished." It's beautiful and fluid throughout the OS.
For some reason, I can't download anything from the marketplace. Any suggestions?
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I completely agree with everybody and I feel like when ics miui is polished, my phone will be unstoppable!!
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For some reason, I can't download anything from the marketplace. Any suggestions?
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I am running creamed glacier beta 5.1
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I am running creamed glacier beta 5.1
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I would ask in the ROM thread. I have seen that issue reported many times on many ROMs but I have no idea what the solution is.
HATE some of the icons... Overall it is very done and feels complete, except the icons look a bit unprofessional imo.
Such as the contacts and messaging icon. I use ICS with custom icons to replace the ones i dont feel fit properly. For example, the messaging icon is an awkward green and WAY too tall.
But over all it deserves a 9/10
Polished is a very good way to put the feel of using ICS. It certainly does feel "complete" and relaxed. Definitely the largest reason to love it.. right behind notifications + power options in notifications bar to do with as i please while it's locked
Keyboard is a solid step forward (and predictive text works better than GB from my use).
The browser is a HUGE step forward, but it's definitely not there yet.
Gallery works much better, far fewer issues than before. HOWEVER, i hate having to click the photo twice to get into the gallery after taking a photo.
Also, IntelSoftApps has really hit the nail on the head.. the contacts, messaging, calendar and gallery just look like they don't belong there. What would be the least intrusive way to change these (editing the apk?)?
What I love about ICS:
-the overall design and how polished it is
-how smooth it is
- all the new gapps
Shouldn't the caller id, when receiving a call, have a transparent background? When someone calls there is a big black box covering lower half of the screen with the little white headphone... Is it a Nexus S bug, or an ICS feature? I think it would be better transparent...
I like lots of features of ICS. I love the new font, the market icon in the app tray, the ability to create app folders, and the ability to swipe away single notifications. Honestly my only real complaint is with the app drawer...I hate having to scroll sideways. Logically when you have a list of something, you expect it to be vertical, not horizontal. But hey, that's how iOS does it so that's how Android should do it too, right? *rolls eyes*
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for me is the new UI.
So amazing
I like the new "web-os-like" multitasking. Simply swipe to close an open app. Great.
Much more efficienct than ios.
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full power of GPU now makes graphics intensive gaming incredible
I'd let you know if google would pull their heads out of their asses and release an OTA for NS4G, or any other nexus besides the ONE MODEL to get it already!!!
they are really dropping the ball. I understand the holidays really put things behind schedule, but maybe they should have thought about that before they made plans to push a new update just before the holidays.
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I'd let you know if google would pull their heads out of their asses and release an OTA for NS4G, or any other nexus besides the ONE MODEL to get it already!!!
they are really dropping the ball. I understand the holidays really put things behind schedule, but maybe they should have thought about that before they made plans to push a new update just before the holidays.
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Just to let you know...no matter how better the ns4g be owner the ns.....the Original nexus s will always be on top
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The One S is my mom's first touchscreen/smartphone. She's having a hard time to getting used to the phone. Is there a way to simplify things? I'm planning on rooting it and maybe seeing if there's a stock ICS ROM because Sense is so crowded, way too many options laid out. It's horrible. I actually don't like it myself.
Hey,
you can root it and use the rom cleaner script (in the theme section).
The script will remove all the bloatware and useless sense stuff. Maybe that is what you are looking for?
Trickdroid with the tweakpack gives also the choice to remove a lot of unwanted stuff. (development section)
But the basic functionalty stays the same. You can also just try another Launcher (Like Apex) and look if this works better for her.
it's mainly the Sense dialer and Mobilife app that I want to get rid of.
The Sense dialer isn't very friendly compared to TouchPal and exDialer. But I'm not having her use those because clearing the call will bring her back to Sense's call history.
Mobilife just makes it difficult to keep track of contacts. She has over 300 and I'm syncing them with Google, sometimes a contact shows so many different values to change (mobile #, home #, address,etc). I'd rather have Google take care of this.
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it's mainly the Sense dialer and Mobilife app that I want to get rid of.
The Sense dialer isn't very friendly compared to TouchPal and exDialer. But I'm not having her use those because clearing the call will bring her back to Sense's call history.
Mobilife just makes it difficult to keep track of contacts. She has over 300 and I'm syncing them with Google, sometimes a contact shows so many different values to change (mobile #, home #, address,etc). I'd rather have Google take care of this.
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Well that's why sense is good. You can just start typing the name of the person instead of the number, and the contract entry comes up.
As far as simplifying it...why don't you just get ADW (or another launcher which lets you edit your screens) and delete all screens but 2 or even 1, if easier. Then put her only needed applications on the dock for her and then lock the screen (again this may be an ADW feature) so nothing moves and gets lost accidentally.... Then let her use it for awhile until she is comfortable, and gradually introduce her to more features as she is ready?
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I know i'm newb but I've tried looking/searching and cant see anything labeled ROM CLEANER in the theme section, could someone point me in the right direction as I want rid of the bloat that HTC and Orange have put on, but without losing any of the functionality or stableness of the stock I have as I need my phone working and do not always have good access to the net or a computer for that matter.
Also any other suggestions or tips would also be appreciated as coming from an non tech background alot of this can be quite confusing ^^
oh an my appolagies for the slight hijack of the thread but I'm kinda in the same boat so thought rather than starting a new thread asking more or less the same thing
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The One S is my mom's first touchscreen/smartphone. She's having a hard time to getting used to the phone. Is there a way to simplify things? I'm planning on rooting it and maybe seeing if there's a stock ICS ROM because Sense is so crowded, way too many options laid out. It's horrible. I actually don't like it myself.
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It's 2012 and the One S is one of the most advanced smart phones on the market.
How about your mom step up her game? Also there are many choices of android phones so maybe the One S is not the one for her.
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It's 2012 and the One S is one of the most advanced smart phones on the market.
How about your mom step up her game? Also there are many choices of android phones so maybe the One S is not the one for her.
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You're right, the One S is one of the most advanced smartphones. It's also why I decided to get it to future proof her instead of a dumb phone for the same price.
I played around with exDialer and have decided that this dialer is the easiest app with easy to read colors (after applying the SGS2 theme). I'm actually using it myself. I will have to root her phone to get the dismiss missed calls to work, but that's no problem.