Sense vs. AOSP - Thunderbolt General

First off...I think I've come to the conclusion I'm a sense guy at heart.
I've used all the major sense ROMs for this bolt. BAMF, Virus (Airborne and Synergy), Chingy stuff, and DroidTh3ory's stuff. (I"m sure a few others I've forgotten).
I've also tried CM7 several times, OMFGB, and recently Th3ory's AOSP run.
I get smaller footprint, more customization, better battery life (I'm told, can't say I've left an AOSP on mine long enough to confirm/deny that personally).
I use my phone for 60% business/40% personal.
I know you can download an app or theme for just about everything...but at what point do you say enough is enough. I'm trying to make AOSP do what Sense already does?...most of the time for free.
Example... Sense 3.0 MMS...cleaner, nicer. Sense email client, way better than AOSP offering. I use Exchange for email. I know all about Touchdown, K9, moxier, Enhanced Email, etc. But on baked in AOSP email you can't even move an email to a sub folder??
The dialer is horrible, IMO. So I downloaded dialer one. I like sense's dialer, if you start typing a name or number, it starts pulling them up. Reminds me of how easy a blackberry is to use for dialing.
I like the people Widget, so I paid for launcher pro plus, their people widget as well as calendar/agenda widget is ok. It would be nice if the facebook pictures synced up properly with their people widget, but I've read this is a known AOSP issue. Again...buying/installing a 3rd party app for something that just works in Sense.
I'm not looking for a flame war. I know there's a HUGE majority of AOSP love out there...I get it. Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here?
Now, AOSP is not all terrible. The ability to choose different launchers, change the number of home screens, how they rotate, different home dock icons, ability to change row/columns.... There are a lot of pluses for sure... so please don't think I'm kicking dirt on the AOSP guys. I appreciate good work from ALL the developers...it's a thankless and never ending job...

One of the main reasons I am sticking with Sense-based ROMs is the quick lookup feature.

I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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On the CM dialer, you can hit the search key and type someone's name.

I like AOSP cause thats what I learned on. Sense pisses me off more than it helps- too many things that just dont work right for me. For example (and this is small stuff, but stuff that just bugs me), click on the address bar on the browser. Start typing something to search....click enter, aww crap, it automatically put a www. in front of it...back up...delete the www. and try again. I can visit Sense once in a while, but always end up back at AOSP. I dont like re-learning, my original HTC Nexus with AOSP was still the best phone I ever had.

I love sense. I came from a Droid X and after i got my TB i realized that 80% of apps and widgets and stuff that i downloaded was to make it look and operate like sense. Like a world clock, a stop watch and good calender widget, the sense clock...the list goes on. Yes there are some things i miss from launchers i used but overall sense is good. Very functional and its got the eye candy.

I dont get why you u cant just turn sense off in settings like you could on my htc imagio. Made it much easier for people who prefer one or the other.
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I think the true answer lies somewhere in between, the beauty of the Android OS is customization. Personally, I am using an AOSP dailer with my BAMF Sense ROM.

My girlfriend loves cm7. I can't stand it. I tend to think of AOSP as Android for people that don't care how it looks or works. Android really isn't that elegant all by itself. It's a pig in need of lip stick. I just refuse to pay for something Sense gives me for free is another reason. That HTC clock is coming close to being an icon of Android itself. I personally think its time Google considered making their industrial modern art masterpiece into something pleasing to the eye and brain. I might give AOSP another go at some point. I'm pretty sure I won't like it because I like how Sense ties things together and it Just works. For free.

I've tried going back to AOSP as I loved AOSP on my OG Droid. I am a Sense-aholic now and I cannot go back. Especially running Sense 3.0 on das BAMF 4.9.

razzia17 said:
I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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+1, thats exactly how I was. I thought I was an ASOP only guy after my D1, but every time I try ASOP now I find myself missing some of the things that sense gives you.
Gingeritis 3D is the most stable GB Sense rom I have used yet, battery life is unexpectedly good.
I like the hardware that Motorola has been putting out with android, but Sense blows Blur out of the water...

I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....

dajogejr said:
I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I use Sense simply because I don't have time to experiment with all the other ROM options. But whenever I have started to try some other individual app options, I usually find something I like better. Sense weather animations are cool eye-candy, but there are much more functional weather apps when you need them--and you just don't need a weather app on all the time. The stock clock is ridiculously huge and some of the other optional Sense clocks are OK, but there are a million other clocks out there for free. Found a free calendar widget that is much more customizable and therefore nicer looking with my many backgrounds. Touchdown is better email app (but not cheap). One thing at a time, everything is getting replaced. Not sure what elements of Sense I'm still using!
Thanks, Robertus

I love asop. I love being able to use launcher pro and hide apps that i don't want to see. I love the speed. And every app works great on asop. I've tried to go back to sense but i only last a day at the most. I think the dailer on stock android is awesome.
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I started off with Sense and tried the ASOP mods.
ASOP is very minimalistic. BUT Sense is TOO MUCH.
Google needs a good clock and a better calender and better icons. If they fix that, ill be solid with ASOP.

I like rooting so that I can get to enjoy both sense and aosp. Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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khanam said:
Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
Sent from my thunderbolt
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Wow you clearly missed the point of the thread
Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here
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He was looking for opinions on Sense vs ASOP. He wants to know the pros and cons

I keep trying all the AOSP roms but keep going back to Das BAMF 1.8.6 because it's the most stable, has the least bugs, and the longest battery life. At least for me.

Its a personal preference, so there is no right or wrong answer. I definitely love AOSP. Just cleaner, every app works as intended, moddable.. most importantly (typically) ultra stable and fast.
I personally like the dialer, but usually people get hung up (no pun intended) on that. I love the fact that I can choose to dial, use favourites, have an easy to access call log, etc.. and if I can't manage to find someone in all that.. i can just hit the search key (you remember that little button on the bottom right side).
I do love some of the sense options but not enough to buy the farm. It would be nice to have a middle ground, but I guess i kind of do with AOSP and the mods.

I there any way to enable the quick lookup feature on AOSP? I mainly use quick lookup to easily translated web pages.

Related

Optimus 2x miui in progress, WAB G2X? Discussion

http://miui-dev.com/forums/showthread.php?4679-ROM-WIP-LG-Optimus-2X-Port-In-Development
Any news for g2x? I have taken a break from making roms and am also new to Porting roms, so someone should have a go.
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Can't be too far behind. Its what I'm looking forward to most.
Yes!!! I love me some Miui :-D
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After seeing the new update for the MT4G, I can't wait for MIUI! I haven't been this excited about it in months.
EmceeGeek said:
After seeing the new update for the MT4G, I can't wait for MIUI! I haven't been this excited about it in months.
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I've never personally used MIUI but from what I have read people either love it or hate it. Why do you want it so much? What are the benefits?
its AOSP and the UI is different from the android we are used to here in the US. Even if you use a different launcher. Lots of extra features and customization to be done also.
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I've never personally used MIUI but from what I have read people either love it or hate it. Why do you want it so much? What are the benefits?
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I've used it.. and loved it on my G2. It's android with the iPhone polish man. Lots of great eye candy, downloadable boot animations themes, wallpapers, ringtones, notifications, etc... all built in. a GREAT task management/settings/net traffic tracker... built in.
I would suggest you give it a shot when it comes out. TONS of features.
Here's what i boils down to"
If you like a smooth clean polished and highly customizable UI (a lot of the work done for you.. it eliminated my need for quite a few apps I use for system management)... you'll like this.
if you want to run a stock vanilla form of android that allows YOU to do all of the tweaking and enjoy adb pushes and coding... run CM7 (which is also a FANTASTIC option)
I personally liked how aesthetically pleasing miui is. But I bought an android device to run android os not ios ;-)
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I know BUT ios is polished so is miui. It's the best of both worlds
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Right.. that's my point. it doesn't LOOK like iOS.. but i don't think ANYONE would argue that iOS has a lot more "love in the UI details" (ie... POLISH.. it's nice looking and consistently so). While android.. is definitely a hacker/programmers UI. VERY tweakable and functional.. just not that nice looking.
the resemblance it iOS is really peoples only objection to MIUI but the fact is that's only the default launcher. change the launcher and its no longer an issue.
Really?!? people think it looks like iOS?!? why because they're no app drawer? that's literally the only thing I can think of that's like iOS that isn't part of android anyway. (they both have dockable apps at the bottom, they both have a status bar with signal/time/date/etc). otherwise.. it's just Android with some UI love (polish). that's IT.. and like you said.. you can change the launcher.. but i don't see a reason to.
True. The only other thing is the way they changes the ticking system to the tab system. That's all i can think of.
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Really?!? people think it looks like iOS?!? why because they're no app drawer? that's literally the only thing I can think of that's like iOS that isn't part of android anyway. (they both have dockable apps at the bottom, they both have a status bar with signal/time/date/etc). otherwise.. it's just Android with some UI love (polish). that's IT.. and like you said.. you can change the launcher.. but i don't see a reason to.
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the icons themselves have an iPhone feel to them as well. as for the launcher.. that comes down to preference.
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the icons themselves have an iPhone feel to them as well. as for the launcher.. that comes down to preference.
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But there are themes. If you really hate iPhone you can still live with miui.
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I'm quite aware of that. I'm pro-MIUI.. Had it on my Vibrant since it was released for the phone. I was just saying the default theme is what turns people off of the ROM upon first glance.
There are lots of benefits to MIUI. For starters it usually runs VERY fast. It was the first rom to include toggles in the notification menu (CM7 does this now too). Also the menu's are no longer 6 squares, but listed. The whole OS is themable (CM7 is now too).
I am not particularly fond of the homescreen setup (No App Drawer) because all of your apps are on your desktop like iOS. The stock launcher is basically the same as iOS except you can put icons anywhere and supports widgets.
The Icons are very pretty and large, which I like.
You can accomplish most of this by using CM7, a good CM7 theme, and ADW EX with a MIUI theme.
I'm all about more custom roms. I enjoyed MIUI for a few days but damn CM7 nightlies always have me going back to try out the new features.
MIUI is a lot more than a simple skin. As others have said, its blazing fast, has amazing features built in (I really like being able to control all of my connections by the dropdown bar and even being able to reboot and such through the same bar) and is extremely polished.
The availability of themes can make it decidedly un-iOS very easily. The customization options built into the ROM are absolutely insane and I have it on my Inspire as well as my Captivate - I really hope someone picks it up and ports it to the G2x.
In comparison to most other devices, development on the G2x seems to be pretty slow overall which is a huge bummer. I guess too many people are busy constantly exchanging their devices to actually get cracking on development. *eye roll*

What does everyone think about HTC sense?

I just was curious to see what you all thought of the sense integration with android. I have had many android phones, this is my first HTC phone. Whenever I got a new android device the first thing I would do is customize everything to the way I liked it. This always started with a Google search on rooting it to get a custom rom. Mainly cause I could and I liked the differences.
I have to say that I am happy with this phone. I have been using it the way it came out of the box. I think that the sense has made the already good android system even better. Perhaps its gingerbread doing its work as well for a good experience. This phone plain and simple just works. Multi tasking is very reliable unlike most of my expierences with other android devices (COUGH...G2x...COUGH) No issues to date. The phone and the phone interface is excellent IMO. I don't even think I will root it when its able to be done. Perhaps only to have recovery option available. Thumbs up too HTC!!
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hate it. ADW launcher FTW.
I like sense, but it seems really resourse intensive, pretty sure u can achieve the same eye candy less power hungry. Still need root, to remove the crapware that came with the phone.
Sense 3.0 is a LOT better than previous versions, only other launcher worth looking at is LauncherPro IMO
Sense suxs for me...like other launchers much better!
I like certain aspects of Sense like the text app, contacts app and clock app but I think HTC is going in the wrong direction with its UI. They are digging further into Android and in my opinion, adding to much eye candy.
I never though I'd say it but Samsung is moving in the right direction with Touch Wiz by minimalizing the nonsense animations and adding slight improvements to Android.
I loaded ADW onto the Sensation and haven't looked back. It made this phone faster than my G2X.
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I like Sense 3.0 though I do wish they would optimize it a bit.
i like the way sense works. I had a galaxy s 4g for a little and i didn't like the interface as much as sense. Only thing i liked better was the better looking messaging app. The htc one looks so cheap and boring.
I really like sense and I wouldnt buy an android device without it at this time.
I believe that sense will get better with time and with the fact that HTC in releasing the sense SDK
I like sense~~~beautiful!!~
but seems that it has a big power consumption
Personally, I don't like Sense. It's the biggest reason I want a custom rom on this phone. I agree with jrwingate6's comments on TouchWiz, but I'm an AOSP guy.
Sense 3.0 is definitely an upgrade. With previous versions of Sense, I couldn't use them on my HD2 because of the pocket call answer / decline problem (I would always decline calls because my leg would slide up on the screen when I pulled the phone out). I like the Sense lockscreen and the widgets, however, I'm using LauncherPro Plus right now. I can't deal with the inability to resize widgets and not set the number of rows / columns on each screen. Running LauncherPro also seems to have sped up the phone considerably.
I am not a fan of sense, though I do like the lock screen, app draw and running apps in the notification. I find that the additional animations sounds and other beauty aspects really hinder the performance of the phone. I am currently using golauncher.
Can't wait for root to de-bloat and remove a good portion or all of sense.
After never having an android phone that had sense on it, I have to say I like it. It's different sure, and it might be a little over the top, but I still like it. If you're going to have a skin on your phone i'd choose skin over any other in a heart beat. That's just my opinion though.
I love the aesthetics of Sense but it is too much of a resource hog and apparently very glitchy. I like what HTC did with the mail client, SMS application, weather and a few other standout features but the UX overall just doesn't seem optimized for the dual-core processors.
I also notices something today...I replaced the stock keyboard with another one I found on the market and guess what, the scrolling speed has dramatically improved! I use ADW launcher and now my app drawer and home screens scroll just as smoothly as my HD2 with Hyperdroid android 2.3. Go figure.
For the most part I really like sense. The weather clock, the contacts widgets, the notification tray with quick settings and running programs. The camera ap. The contact/social networking integration. Much of the skinning they do. Features like putting the phone face down to turn on the speaker phone. Adjusting call volume in/out of the pocket, when th ephone is moved, etc. All that I really like.
The sound fx for the weather I hate. I also hate they waste screen real estate with the stupid "customize screen" button. Just let me long press on the screen if I want to add an icon or change the wallpaper. I'd love to be able to use that button for something else. I much prefer the customization that I can get from a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher.
I just wish I could use Sense widgets on ADW Launcher and I would be happy.
I like it, but I think it's waaaaaay too much. You can see this by the lag (I have it, sadly )
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I'm missing my MIUI from my Nexus one, the 5-way lockscreen on MIUI is pretty awesome.
On principal I like Sense 3.0 as it does look good and would be great if it wasn't such a hog. I'm more a minimalist though and obviously Sense 3.0 is the complete opposite.
I have disabled just about every sense feature i could and removed all sense widgets except for the weather as that is kinda cool looking if nothing else.
I have always loved the eye candy of sense but never used it on any of my phones because I like my phone to be as snappy and fast as possible and sense always seemed to bogg the phone down. In fact, this is the longest I've gone leaving sense on a phone. Usually right out of the box I root it and install a non sense rom. I really am liking sense 3.0 I think it will be better once they get the kinks worked out of it. It still is a resource hog but my phone doesnt appear as laggy as older sense versions/phones. While I cant wait until we get root and s-off to install a non sense rom/kernel I think I will miss 3.0 a bit. I've tried using adw ex on my sensation (used it on all my phones and tablets and LOVED it) but I keep going back to the eye candy of sense 3.0
This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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This time even with s-off and rooted I might stay with a sense 3.0 rom and just overclock that *****
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Nice!!
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CM7 vs Sense as of today.

what would be the opinion on this matters as of today in reference to the latest roms,
Sense. if you want a good UI, definitely go for Sense. i'm not saying roms like CM7 are bad, but they're just a little.. well ugly IMO. but of course, if you are looking for speed and battery saving, then AOSP roms are the best option. not saying that Sense is a great battery hog. in fact, i got well over two days, with still about 40% remaining. moderate usage, heavy internet browsing using 3G/4G, semi heavy texting. now of course, AOSP roms could probably get wayy better than that, but i go for looks of the UI.
what would we the best sense rom right now ?
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Sense. if you want a good UI, definitely go for Sense. i'm not saying roms like CM7 are bad, but they're just a little.. well ugly IMO. but of course, if you are looking for speed and battery saving, then AOSP roms are the best option. not saying that Sense is a great battery hog. in fact, i got well over two days, with still about 40% remaining. moderate usage, heavy internet browsing using 3G/4G, semi heavy texting. now of course, AOSP roms could probably get wayy better than that, but i go for looks of the UI.
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I can throw a Sense theme on LauncherPro and mess with some settings to make AOSP look exactly like Sense without all the bloat. sure it might give you a little more eye candy with all the nice widgets, but just eats up the battery. not trying to diss your post or anything like that, just my opinion
cubanito08 said:
what would we the best sense rom right now ?
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depends on which version of Sense youre wanting to use
Sense 3.0 - Virtuous Unity v2.39
Sense 3.5 - RCMix3d Runny v4.0
cubanito08 said:
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IMO? i would say Sense 3.5.
though if you want less buggy and more stable, then Sense 3.0 is the way to go.
Sense 3.5: RCMix3D or DARKSIDE SENSE 3.5
Sense 3.0: Virtuous Unity
Today, like yesterday, like 1/2 year ago, on this specific phone - Sense vs CM is a matter of personal preference. Both do the job just fine, both have good and bad points. Overall decision is up to the person. Sense has much more functionality, usefulness, prettiness and built-in "gadgets", CM has much more customizability and "clean" Android feel.
My personal preference - after spending enough time with Nexus One, I've learned to appreciate Sense usefulness.
i been running cm7.1 but i guess ill give it a try to sense see how it suite my needs
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i been running cm7.1 but i guess ill give it a try to sense see how it suite my needs
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IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
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IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
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If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
I used to like Sense a lot, well maybe I still do, but I still go with CM for performance and select a good launcher, then I go to my color screen . com for inspiration on how to make my screen look good.
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IMHO, and i know people will disagree with me.
Sense is like a fat girl on a tri-cycle. It takes a whole ton of effort to not go very far. And it's really not all that good looking.
AOSP, such as CM, is like a super model, plain jane it's kind of boring. But once it's all dolled up. Man there is nothing prettier.
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I would completely agree with this analogy.
On another note, MIUI is a AOSP ROM with a unique, beautiful look and the great speed and battery life of an AOSP ROM. Give all ROMs a try. In my opinion, I preferred:
MIUI > CM7 > Sense
But that's just me.
I've been using Sense for quite a time. Really love the function auto link contact.
My question is, if I can get some thing similar in CM7 rom? I mean, CM7.2 rc0 from TDJ?
I don't see how Sense looks any better than a good themed launcher on Cyanogen. It's all a matter of tastes. This is like arguing vanilla is better than chocolate or vice versa.
Because you're looking at the launcher. Look deeper: notification bar w/ settings, phone, mail, settings menu, etc. No matter what you do with CM, to the capabilities of Sense you won't get, or even anywhere near. Too many things in too many places are head and shoulders above what plain Android or CM have to offer, functionality-wise. I bet that 90% of those not understanding what Sense is about, never used 10% of what it has to offer under the hood - small things, but a lot of them, which makes using the phone that much more comfortable. I've made a list once, what Sense has above AOSP/CM/MIUI that can be added by 3rd party apps, and what it has that can't be added by anything. I'm too lazy to write it another time, you can search for it.
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Because you're looking at the launcher. Look deeper: notification bar w/ settings, phone, mail, settings menu, etc. No matter what you do with CM, to the capabilities of Sense you won't get, or even anywhere near. Too many things in too many places are head and shoulders above what plain Android or CM have to offer, functionality-wise. I bet that 90% of those not understanding what Sense is about, never used 10% of what it has to offer under the hood - small things, but a lot of them, which makes using the phone that much more comfortable. I've made a list once, what Sense has above AOSP/CM/MIUI that can be added by 3rd party apps, and what it has that can't be added by anything. I'm too lazy to write it another time, you can search for it.
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well said.
examples of apps/things that Sense has that can be never added on an AOSP/MIUI ROM:
-Sense Camera app | you gotta admit, it's pretty amazing
-Facebook link feature | great feature that only Sense includes
-Sense Weather app/widget | true, there are a bunch of apps out there that copy it, but in the end, Sense does it best
-Sense Clock app/widget | very beautiful, like with the Sense Weather, many apps out there copy the Sense clock widget, but Sense still does it best.
So from what i gather, sense have the best camera out of CM7 and MIUI?
I havent flash a room since Darkside 3.1.0 and looking to flash new room but i get lost with so many rom out right now. Which rom would you recommend for having best camera? and what exactly is the different from 3.0 and 3.5 sense?
There are many more smaller things than the camera and widgets. I'll note a few:
The quick toggles notification panel is better and prettier than MIUI's, and CM is far behind.
The zooming glass is much more comfortable than standard Android pointer anywhere else.
Sense selection cursors in browser don't fail and "run away" from the real cursor where AOSP/CM/MIUI do.
Zoom capability in mail app.
Proper Exchange support (AFAIK, some servers refuse the regular Android client, used by both CM and MIUI, because it lacks several security features).
Ability to move mail between folders (this basic ability is missing from AOSP/CM/MIUI mail app).
Lockscreen with SMS/alarms/notifications/etc.
Much nicer tabs and favorites with preview in browser.
Generally better thought-of menus and buttons in UI for most internal apps.
As I wrote, lots of small things. But they matter for user experience much more than how the launcher looks.
i just can't do sense anymore after using cyanogenmod for so long, it feels so bloated and closed down. after using miui with an ics theme I'm not sure if anythjg but an ics rom will satisfy me. I'm just too used ro having clean homescreens thanks to folders.
tldr; try them yourself.
Virtuous Team Ends Unity
On my twitter feed this morning, I noticed a posting by the Virtuous Team for the new year.
http://www.virtuousrom.com/2012/01/happy-new-year.html
Officially, work on Unity has been conculeded and with it work on Sense 3.0. Continued work on Affinity is TBD.
Based on that, I can't help but feel that highly polished Sense Custom Roms will fall behind for a little while.
I like all the cameras, they all seem good to me.
It will come down to personal preference but I have come to keep a backup of CM, Sense and MIUI installs, soon to have ICS after camera fix I am sure.
Have your cake and eat it too!

Do you prefer Sense or AOKP?

hi. Do you prefer Sense or AOKP. Is none Sense "better" in memory/resource handjing? What is your opinion?
jebinio said:
hi. Do you prefer Sense or AOKP. Is none Sense "better" in memory/resource handjing? What is your opinion?
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Because I have got HTC so I prefer Sense, otherwise there are a lot of options for Non-Sense phone manufacturer.
Personally apart from the camera I like everything about AOSP ROM's both AOKP and CM10
Of course AOSP ROM's are faster than Sense
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I absolutely don't understand anything of the popularity of sense launcher. It is nothing special, there's almost nothing u can customise, not even the amount of screens. Lots of beter launchers to find.
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Auke11 said:
I absolutely don't understand anything of the popularity of sense launcher. It is nothing special, there's almost nothing u can customise, not even the amount of screens. Lots of beter launchers to find.
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Yes, but widgets are a different story
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Auke11 said:
I absolutely don't understand anything of the popularity of sense launcher. It is nothing special, there's almost nothing u can customise, not even the amount of screens. Lots of beter launchers to find.
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i like sense but i don't use sense launcher. it's about other stuff (dialer, camera, menues...)
Originally I bought a HTC phone purely for sense, now I prefer aosp/aokp
Personally I prefer Sense, and even more its final version, Sense 4. I prefer it over other launchers like Touchwiz (to me it seems made for children compared to Sense).
Well, I'm a fan of both. Sense overs a lot of polish over Android, and great widgets too. Now, since JB, I prefer AOKP, since it's already so polished. The widgets can be replaced with APW/HD Widgets too. Although, I'm using Andromadus till AOKP from source comes up
For now sense. AOKP AOSP CM9 CM10 is not my priority as my daily driver.
AOSP all the way for me
My 1st mobile was htc hero - 1st phone with HTC sense. I lovded it and I couldn't understand how can u like more aosp or cm roms. Yeah I agree they are faster but they look ugly. I had ZTE blade with cm, then Motorola atrix with cm aswell and eventually I have sold atrix and bought desire s and that was the best thing I have done.
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Personally I like sense. It's just so pretty.
The widgets are great and all the /little things really make it.
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and the integration of facebook contacts and calendars into system contacts and calendars!!!
Definitely HTC sense ! Bunch of widgets packed, nice and polished UI.
But I have to say - I like AOSP lockscreen much more.
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used to really like sense on HTC Hero, but went AOSP asap and haven't looked back. My GF also has a DS, stock and its so slow compared to the ROMS I use, but she hasn't done the stock ICS update yet...
sense's overall integration of apps, FB, contacts etc is very well done tho
one little thing that gets me on sense is in SMS, delivery reports are not integrated in SMS app, always get a separate message to confirm, really silly and annoying, lol...
veef13 said:
one little thing that gets me on sense is in SMS, delivery reports are not integrated in SMS app, always get a separate message to confirm, really silly and annoying, lol...
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really??? i'm on sense now but i use to be on CM in the hero times and the sms delivery reports was integreted into default SMS app for sure. maybe you didn't checked the settings well enough? i doubt that they would make it worse...
toxic-hero said:
really??? i'm on sense now but i use to be on CM in the hero times and the sms delivery reports was integreted into default SMS app for sure. maybe you didn't checked the settings well enough? i doubt that they would make it worse...
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100% sure. You get a little icon in the message itself, but also in the notification area. Sure you can disable notification sounds, but its treated as a SMS so unless all SMS sounds are set to silent, no bar notification and no vibrate, its like getting another SMS! Weird
What is odd, on a friends sensation with same 3.6 rom we now have, he only gets confirmation in SMS app
I loved Sense, mainly because the desire S was my first smartphone, so it was kinda 'normal'.
But since I have the Jelly Bean AOSP, I really don't want to go back to sense.
About widgets, FB-contacts, ... I don't care. I use my phone for work, so the important things are calling, e-mail and tap-log.
If people on FB need me, they have to wait till I get home, a PC types better and faster anyway.

[Q] Ready to take the plunge and start flashing

Rooted, unlocked, and backed up my imei and ready to flash. I'm backing up all my apps using Titanium Backup. What system apps do I back up if I want to restore call history, contacts, and text messages? Can these easily be restored after flashing the cm10 daily rom? Also, is it okay to backup systemui.apk using TiBackup? I have a custom one that was offered in the dev section.
And just another dumb question, but data on sdcard and ext_sdcard won't get wiped?
You don't really want to restore system app because they change from rom to rom. So that includes your system ui. I personally use sms backup from pay sure for texts and call history, it seems to not do pictures messages so save any pics you want. Finally your contacts i hope are saved to your Google account....if not use backup assistant or export to sd card.
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What exact is IMEI and why does it matter for root stuff
s.a.shannon4 said:
What exact is IMEI and why does it matter for root stuff
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It's basically how Verizon recognizes your phone if it gets needed up you won't be able to make calls or use data
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So I flashed CM10. I really really don't get the big deal haha. I guess I'll play around with Google Now.
The only things I kind of miss so far is S-memo that I actually did use a lot. Anyone have suggestions for a good handwritten-note alternative?
Also missing a lot of widgets from the pull down notifications.
It does seem speedier and I'll see how my battery goes.
This was my first time doing this so it took me like almost an hour to restore everything from Titanium Backup. I like how my Apex Launcher goes back to almost exactly as it was, except the widgets have to be readded.
But overall if I'm not seeing a big difference as a daily driver, I might just go back to stock rooted as I was pretty happy with that anyways.
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Also missing a lot of widgets from the pull down notifications.
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I don't remember exactly where it is, but look around in the settings. I know there is somewhere where you can customize the "Power Widgets" as I believe they are called. Add/remove, reorder, I actually like it a lot better than touchwiz's quick buttons.
Although I don't blame you if you go back. As much as I loved CM10, (I know I will get my head ripped off for saying this but...) I actually kinda missed Touchwiz's apps. I hated the new contacts app, and I missed the camera, calculator, calendar, and dialer. But if you do go back, might I suggest trying a custom TW based rom. I'm running synergy and I love it!
CM is all about clean look, speed, no crap, straight android. The theme engine allows for some pretty awesome customizations using downloaded themes from the play store.
If it's not flashy enough for you, you want to stick with a touchwiz based rom-stock, cleanrom, synergy, jellywiz (jb), etc.
But before you do that, throw a theme like dustinb's cobalt line of themes. These make cyanogen rom's very tempting. I personally am just waiting for that stable release cm10 release.
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annoyingduck said:
CM is all about clean look, speed, no crap, straight android. The theme engine allows for some pretty awesome customizations using downloaded themes from the play store.
If it's not flashy enough for you, you want to stick with a touchwiz based rom-stock, cleanrom, synergy, jellywiz (jb), etc.
But before you do that, throw a theme like dustinb's cobalt line of themes. These make cyanogen rom's very tempting. I personally am just waiting for that stable release cm10 release.
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I'm running CM10 M1...and I only have one problem alarm sound won't work!
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CM is all about clean look, speed, no crap, straight android.
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For me at least, my choice to stick with TW wasn't about the theme, it was about features. I absolutely can't stand the layout of the contacts app, that's the big thing stopping me from switching. The dialer in CM10 doesn't let you spell out contact names like the TW one. Admittedly I like the theme of the calculator and calendar on TW better, but it's nothing that would stop me from enjoying wonderful AOSP.
CM10 - a quick review
I agree with noingwhat here... I missed a lot of the apps in TouchWiz in a mere three hours straight of playing with CM10.
I seriously find the camera to be embarrassingly bad, at least in terms of look & feel compared to the tw camera.
The same goes for the calculator. I'm sure it does what it needs to, but it just doesn't look very polished. These are two apps that I use on a really frequent basis. Are these what the stock apps look like on a Nexus?
I also was not a fan of the Contacts app, and for whatever reason, couldn't find a way to explicitly link each contact to their Facebook profile.
One other small nitpick, I think the slide to unlock in TW was done very well. You simply swipe in any direction. Having to swipe in a specific direction on a 4.8 inch screen is just asking for your phone to fall out of your hand. Also, I can't see the clock on the lockscreen due to my wallpaper being a lighter color. I refuse to change my kate upton wallpaper lol.
I liked how the text message threads looked in JB over tw. TW looks plain silly sometimes.
My APW widgets look a lot better in JB than in TW, especially when using the ICS skin for apw.
I really loved the transition animations in CM10 overall. I also liked the little animation you get when the screen turns off. Very very cool.
Anyway, since I was using Apex launcher already, it had the same look and feel on CM10 as I did on stock-rooted (although I admit CM10 was a bit zippier). I really think I just missed the apps too much but I did enjoy the modern, clean, and sleek look and feel in straight JB.
But!! On the plus side, I was able to get to recovery, perform backups, restore my apps and text messages, all on my first try without bricking my phone. I was able to return to my Nandroid without any problems either.
I appreciate all the work done by the CM team but I'm hoping it comes along a bit further in the near future. All my opinions are obviously subjective, so I hope it's all taken with a grain of salt. I'm a long-time lurker here so I'm just glad to see that someone new can eventually get the hang of all this.
I have to say after playing around with CM10 for about week I have to agree.
There was a time when AOSPs like CyanogenMod was far better than any of the Manufacturer Skinned android variants. HTC Sense on my OG Droid Incredible was considered by many to be the best OEM skinned Android variant and CM6 left it in the dust. It was more stable, faster and had more features.
However, TouchWiz is pretty damn good. The Samsung apps are strong(with the exception of S-Voice). Its pretty fast(once you turn off S-Voice). Its still needs a little project butter and Google Now but other than that imo its pretty solid.
Now of course there are specialty thing like overclocking or drastic UI changes that require custom roms but 90% of users have no desire to do any of that stuff.
I still love AOSP roms and I'll probably keep tinkering with them, but staying with TouchWiz isn't the worst decision in the world.
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I liked how the text message threads looked in JB over tw. TW looks plain silly sometimes.
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I forgot about the messenger too. I actually prefer the messenger in TW over JB, but as far as the settings and overall UI, I prefer JB. If only I could get the apps, that's all I want.

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