Rooted, unlocked, and backed up my imei and ready to flash. I'm backing up all my apps using Titanium Backup. What system apps do I back up if I want to restore call history, contacts, and text messages? Can these easily be restored after flashing the cm10 daily rom? Also, is it okay to backup systemui.apk using TiBackup? I have a custom one that was offered in the dev section.
And just another dumb question, but data on sdcard and ext_sdcard won't get wiped?
You don't really want to restore system app because they change from rom to rom. So that includes your system ui. I personally use sms backup from pay sure for texts and call history, it seems to not do pictures messages so save any pics you want. Finally your contacts i hope are saved to your Google account....if not use backup assistant or export to sd card.
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What exact is IMEI and why does it matter for root stuff
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It's basically how Verizon recognizes your phone if it gets needed up you won't be able to make calls or use data
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So I flashed CM10. I really really don't get the big deal haha. I guess I'll play around with Google Now.
The only things I kind of miss so far is S-memo that I actually did use a lot. Anyone have suggestions for a good handwritten-note alternative?
Also missing a lot of widgets from the pull down notifications.
It does seem speedier and I'll see how my battery goes.
This was my first time doing this so it took me like almost an hour to restore everything from Titanium Backup. I like how my Apex Launcher goes back to almost exactly as it was, except the widgets have to be readded.
But overall if I'm not seeing a big difference as a daily driver, I might just go back to stock rooted as I was pretty happy with that anyways.
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I don't remember exactly where it is, but look around in the settings. I know there is somewhere where you can customize the "Power Widgets" as I believe they are called. Add/remove, reorder, I actually like it a lot better than touchwiz's quick buttons.
Although I don't blame you if you go back. As much as I loved CM10, (I know I will get my head ripped off for saying this but...) I actually kinda missed Touchwiz's apps. I hated the new contacts app, and I missed the camera, calculator, calendar, and dialer. But if you do go back, might I suggest trying a custom TW based rom. I'm running synergy and I love it!
CM is all about clean look, speed, no crap, straight android. The theme engine allows for some pretty awesome customizations using downloaded themes from the play store.
If it's not flashy enough for you, you want to stick with a touchwiz based rom-stock, cleanrom, synergy, jellywiz (jb), etc.
But before you do that, throw a theme like dustinb's cobalt line of themes. These make cyanogen rom's very tempting. I personally am just waiting for that stable release cm10 release.
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CM is all about clean look, speed, no crap, straight android. The theme engine allows for some pretty awesome customizations using downloaded themes from the play store.
If it's not flashy enough for you, you want to stick with a touchwiz based rom-stock, cleanrom, synergy, jellywiz (jb), etc.
But before you do that, throw a theme like dustinb's cobalt line of themes. These make cyanogen rom's very tempting. I personally am just waiting for that stable release cm10 release.
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I'm running CM10 M1...and I only have one problem alarm sound won't work!
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For me at least, my choice to stick with TW wasn't about the theme, it was about features. I absolutely can't stand the layout of the contacts app, that's the big thing stopping me from switching. The dialer in CM10 doesn't let you spell out contact names like the TW one. Admittedly I like the theme of the calculator and calendar on TW better, but it's nothing that would stop me from enjoying wonderful AOSP.
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I agree with noingwhat here... I missed a lot of the apps in TouchWiz in a mere three hours straight of playing with CM10.
I seriously find the camera to be embarrassingly bad, at least in terms of look & feel compared to the tw camera.
The same goes for the calculator. I'm sure it does what it needs to, but it just doesn't look very polished. These are two apps that I use on a really frequent basis. Are these what the stock apps look like on a Nexus?
I also was not a fan of the Contacts app, and for whatever reason, couldn't find a way to explicitly link each contact to their Facebook profile.
One other small nitpick, I think the slide to unlock in TW was done very well. You simply swipe in any direction. Having to swipe in a specific direction on a 4.8 inch screen is just asking for your phone to fall out of your hand. Also, I can't see the clock on the lockscreen due to my wallpaper being a lighter color. I refuse to change my kate upton wallpaper lol.
I liked how the text message threads looked in JB over tw. TW looks plain silly sometimes.
My APW widgets look a lot better in JB than in TW, especially when using the ICS skin for apw.
I really loved the transition animations in CM10 overall. I also liked the little animation you get when the screen turns off. Very very cool.
Anyway, since I was using Apex launcher already, it had the same look and feel on CM10 as I did on stock-rooted (although I admit CM10 was a bit zippier). I really think I just missed the apps too much but I did enjoy the modern, clean, and sleek look and feel in straight JB.
But!! On the plus side, I was able to get to recovery, perform backups, restore my apps and text messages, all on my first try without bricking my phone. I was able to return to my Nandroid without any problems either.
I appreciate all the work done by the CM team but I'm hoping it comes along a bit further in the near future. All my opinions are obviously subjective, so I hope it's all taken with a grain of salt. I'm a long-time lurker here so I'm just glad to see that someone new can eventually get the hang of all this.
I have to say after playing around with CM10 for about week I have to agree.
There was a time when AOSPs like CyanogenMod was far better than any of the Manufacturer Skinned android variants. HTC Sense on my OG Droid Incredible was considered by many to be the best OEM skinned Android variant and CM6 left it in the dust. It was more stable, faster and had more features.
However, TouchWiz is pretty damn good. The Samsung apps are strong(with the exception of S-Voice). Its pretty fast(once you turn off S-Voice). Its still needs a little project butter and Google Now but other than that imo its pretty solid.
Now of course there are specialty thing like overclocking or drastic UI changes that require custom roms but 90% of users have no desire to do any of that stuff.
I still love AOSP roms and I'll probably keep tinkering with them, but staying with TouchWiz isn't the worst decision in the world.
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I forgot about the messenger too. I actually prefer the messenger in TW over JB, but as far as the settings and overall UI, I prefer JB. If only I could get the apps, that's all I want.
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I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.
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I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.
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You're correct, no custom roms yet. In the meantime you could install a different launcher such as launcher pro and adw launcher to give your phone a more aosp look
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Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.
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Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.
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Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot
I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM. I just use LauncherPro instead of Samsung's launcher and it's fantastic.
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I agree 110%, there are some nice improvements once you remove all the crap
To switch to a stock vanilla launcher -- How To: Disable TouchWiz Epic 4G
Although it only has three screens, I've found it to be really really responsive and reliable. It always works very fast.
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This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot
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if we get good devs for the epic i may buy one. looks as there isn't as much interest as the evo has.
I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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I already got wifi tethering.....I'm rooted, so I installed the app. I'm now putting out a hotspot on 3 laptops in my home.
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I've been using Cognition 2.1 and SRE since I got my Captivate. I have to say that I am very pleased with designgears stock rebuilds and they definitely made the user experience of the phone much better.
However, having come from a SE x10a, I never really had the opportunity to run any Cyanogen roms, much less CM6, on a phone meant specifically for Android (I did get it running on my HTC Touch Pro and HD2).
Does anyone have any first hand experience with running CM6 on a "real" Android phone and how does it compare to the current Cognition 2.1.5? Should I be holding my breath for CM6 or are the differences minimal (minus Froyo of course)?
Well, considering Cognition is just sourced together improvements in an all in one package, and Cyanogen mod is re-worked code they aren't even in the same ballpark. If and when CM drops it will be very different from Cognition.
Yeah I've had experience with Cyanogen on a Nexus one, and the speed improvements and big updates that add a lot of features, i used Cognition, and i have a couple gripes. first DG updates too frequently, i hate having to keeping using titanium backup, it literally takes an hour to get all my stuff back the way i want, he updates like everyday i swear. Secondly the updates are really buggy still, i had issues on my phone getting really random errors. Cyan has a ton of developers behind it, it really makes the phone, can't wait for it to be on Captivate.
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Yeah I've had experience with Cyanogen on a Nexus one, and the speed improvements and big updates that add a lot of features, i used Cognition, and i have a couple gripes. first DG updates too frequently, i hate having to keeping using titanium backup, it literally takes an hour to get all my stuff back the way i want, he updates like everyday i swear. Secondly the updates are really buggy still, i had issues on my phone getting really random errors. Cyan has a ton of developers behind it, it really makes the phone, can't wait for it to be on Captivate.
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you do realize that he releases UPDATES that dont require you to back up and restore every time?
I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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I agree. The TW calendar and contact list is pretty, and LP makes the rest pretty and functional. Good combination IMO
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I agree. The TW calendar and contact list is pretty, and LP makes the rest pretty and functional. Good combination IMO
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I especially appreciate the wifi, bluetooth, silent and vibrate controls. And I use the lock screen music controls all the time. I don't know how people get along without them.
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iOS 4.2 is better and has TRUE multitasking.
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you do realize that he releases UPDATES that dont require you to back up and restore every time?
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Hmm well i didn't know for sure, he updates too much, i just stopped after 2.1.1, i hate updating, and flashing, and troubleshooting if something goes wrong haha, i mean Cog is something needed to push development on the Captivate. I mean IMO I'm not a big fan of COG, but its good to know people are working hard on our phone despite all the attention on the Vibrant.
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Hmm well i didn't know for sure, he updates too much, i just stopped after 2.1.1, i hate updating, and flashing, and troubleshooting if something goes wrong haha, i mean Cog is something needed to push development on the Captivate. I mean IMO I'm not a big fan of COG, but its good to know people are working hard on our phone despite all the attention on the Vibrant.
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I think it was after 2.1.1 when he started releasing update versions that don't touch /data so leave your apps & settings alone. I do agree though that the releases are too frequent, I'd expect such frequent releases when during the 0.X stage not 2.X.
I'm currently on 2.1.4 and am waiting for 2.1.6 to be released & for other guinea pigs to test it before I upgrade as even just disabling the voodoo lagfix, updating and re-enabling the lag fix is a pain.
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I'm not sure if I would be willing to give up touch wiz for CM. I really think touch wiz with launcher pro is the way to go. Stock android despite what some really loud people think, is not am improvement over sense and touch wiz. At least not for me.
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Agreed, at least for touchwiz. Not sure about Sense.
Having said that, I understand CM makes changes to stock, so it sounds like it's basically a light skin as well. So not sure if those features are worth it. I love the TW brightness change on notification bar swype. If I knew how to submit ideas to CM, I would submit that. Swiping contacts is very nice too. And of course the notification bar toggles are great.
Launcher pro fixes the rest.
seriously, QQ moar, you're honestly complaining about having too many updates and too much support from the dev community? Look at the other galaxy S forums, they dont even have anything as cool as that, I mean Cognition is just 20 steps rolled into one ROM of what you'll do anyway, stripping many annoying things of the rom out and adding a few patches here and there.. its NOT a vanilla rom, its not anything thats not heavily based on what samsung/ATT put out there.
Its a dude constantly trying to make your phone better, thats hardly a bad thing. You can stick to Cognition 2.1 as i'm doing if you want and just wait for whatever else comes out based on a new samsung/ATT firmware. No one is forcing you to update, read the changelog and if nothing affects you leave your phone as it is.
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Yea, I dont mind touchwiz so much. But the one thing I HATE about it is the fact that Samsung did away with the stock Android bluetooth stack and replaced it with one of their own, now we cant use bluetooth game controllers with it.
But other than that, TW with LauncherPro on top of it is pretty good.
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Agreed, at least for touchwiz. Not sure about Sense.
Having said that, I understand CM makes changes to stock, so it sounds like it's basically a light skin as well. So not sure if those features are worth it. I love the TW brightness change on notification bar swype. If I knew how to submit ideas to CM, I would submit that. Swiping contacts is very nice too. And of course the notification bar toggles are great.
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I just leave my brightness set to auto. I tried the swiping to change brightness, but didnt like it. One swipe to the left made it go lowest brightness and one swipe to the right made maximum brightness, nothing in between. Thats why I use Auto. But I do love the notification area toggles for Wifi, bluetooth, etc. Just wish they had GPS in there as well like the other phones do.
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Yea, I dont mind touchwiz so much. But the one thing I HATE about it is the fact that Samsung did away with the stock Android bluetooth stack and replaced it with one of their own, now we cant use bluetooth game controllers with it.
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My MSI Bluetooth GamePad works great. It's the Wii controller that doesn't play well.
I love the development on the Captivate i just don't particularly like all the enhancements that DG has added on the COG ROM. Battery drained like crazy with it. but anyways. yeah TW does have something special about it. some really neat enhancements over that stock experience, i haven't had any experience with Sense but hopefully a ROM will come out soon.
If and when cyan is released for this phone I will swap in a heart beat.
You get a customized light install with all of your favorite mods already installed already. Plus you get updated pushed directly to your phone.
Plus all the stuff that TW has you won't miss.
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I just leave my brightness set to auto. I tried the swiping to change brightness, but didnt like it. One swipe to the left made it go lowest brightness and one swipe to the right made maximum brightness, nothing in between. Thats why I use Auto. But I do love the notification area toggles for Wifi, bluetooth, etc. Just wish they had GPS in there as well like the other phones do.
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There is a trick to the brightness slider. In order to keep you from changing brightness accidentally, they made the initial spot you touch a dead zone. What you have to do is if you want the screen to be set somewhere on the lower end of the brightness scale, start swiping on the right side and work your way down. If you want to be on the brighter end of the scale, start all the way to the left and work your way up. If you want to be in the middle, just start at either extreme. It seems complicated at first, but it gets to be second nature really fast.
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If and when cyan is released for this phone I will swap in a heart beat.
You get a customized light install with all of your favorite mods already installed already. Plus you get updated pushed directly to your phone.
Plus all the stuff that TW has you won't miss.
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I'll miss plenty. Also, since samsung doesn't release driver source code, CM to leave the galaxyies behind when 3.0 comes out until (and if) samsung releases or leaks some 3.0 roms.
If I update to Cyanogen (when it comes out) or Cognition will I lose Swype?
First off...I think I've come to the conclusion I'm a sense guy at heart.
I've used all the major sense ROMs for this bolt. BAMF, Virus (Airborne and Synergy), Chingy stuff, and DroidTh3ory's stuff. (I"m sure a few others I've forgotten).
I've also tried CM7 several times, OMFGB, and recently Th3ory's AOSP run.
I get smaller footprint, more customization, better battery life (I'm told, can't say I've left an AOSP on mine long enough to confirm/deny that personally).
I use my phone for 60% business/40% personal.
I know you can download an app or theme for just about everything...but at what point do you say enough is enough. I'm trying to make AOSP do what Sense already does?...most of the time for free.
Example... Sense 3.0 MMS...cleaner, nicer. Sense email client, way better than AOSP offering. I use Exchange for email. I know all about Touchdown, K9, moxier, Enhanced Email, etc. But on baked in AOSP email you can't even move an email to a sub folder??
The dialer is horrible, IMO. So I downloaded dialer one. I like sense's dialer, if you start typing a name or number, it starts pulling them up. Reminds me of how easy a blackberry is to use for dialing.
I like the people Widget, so I paid for launcher pro plus, their people widget as well as calendar/agenda widget is ok. It would be nice if the facebook pictures synced up properly with their people widget, but I've read this is a known AOSP issue. Again...buying/installing a 3rd party app for something that just works in Sense.
I'm not looking for a flame war. I know there's a HUGE majority of AOSP love out there...I get it. Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here?
Now, AOSP is not all terrible. The ability to choose different launchers, change the number of home screens, how they rotate, different home dock icons, ability to change row/columns.... There are a lot of pluses for sure... so please don't think I'm kicking dirt on the AOSP guys. I appreciate good work from ALL the developers...it's a thankless and never ending job...
One of the main reasons I am sticking with Sense-based ROMs is the quick lookup feature.
I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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On the CM dialer, you can hit the search key and type someone's name.
I like AOSP cause thats what I learned on. Sense pisses me off more than it helps- too many things that just dont work right for me. For example (and this is small stuff, but stuff that just bugs me), click on the address bar on the browser. Start typing something to search....click enter, aww crap, it automatically put a www. in front of it...back up...delete the www. and try again. I can visit Sense once in a while, but always end up back at AOSP. I dont like re-learning, my original HTC Nexus with AOSP was still the best phone I ever had.
I love sense. I came from a Droid X and after i got my TB i realized that 80% of apps and widgets and stuff that i downloaded was to make it look and operate like sense. Like a world clock, a stop watch and good calender widget, the sense clock...the list goes on. Yes there are some things i miss from launchers i used but overall sense is good. Very functional and its got the eye candy.
I dont get why you u cant just turn sense off in settings like you could on my htc imagio. Made it much easier for people who prefer one or the other.
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I think the true answer lies somewhere in between, the beauty of the Android OS is customization. Personally, I am using an AOSP dailer with my BAMF Sense ROM.
My girlfriend loves cm7. I can't stand it. I tend to think of AOSP as Android for people that don't care how it looks or works. Android really isn't that elegant all by itself. It's a pig in need of lip stick. I just refuse to pay for something Sense gives me for free is another reason. That HTC clock is coming close to being an icon of Android itself. I personally think its time Google considered making their industrial modern art masterpiece into something pleasing to the eye and brain. I might give AOSP another go at some point. I'm pretty sure I won't like it because I like how Sense ties things together and it Just works. For free.
I've tried going back to AOSP as I loved AOSP on my OG Droid. I am a Sense-aholic now and I cannot go back. Especially running Sense 3.0 on das BAMF 4.9.
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I loved aosp on my Droid 1 and Droid x, when I got the t-bolt I had to deal with sense and now I can't go back to aosp.
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+1, thats exactly how I was. I thought I was an ASOP only guy after my D1, but every time I try ASOP now I find myself missing some of the things that sense gives you.
Gingeritis 3D is the most stable GB Sense rom I have used yet, battery life is unexpectedly good.
I like the hardware that Motorola has been putting out with android, but Sense blows Blur out of the water...
I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I've tested a few moto phones...and that being said, I can TOTALLY see the huge love of AOSP for those folks. It's what they're used to and what they know.
But I've owned a sense phone...and use it daily now since release.
I too, can't see spending time and a little money to make it work or trying to make it work like Sense Candy....
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I use Sense simply because I don't have time to experiment with all the other ROM options. But whenever I have started to try some other individual app options, I usually find something I like better. Sense weather animations are cool eye-candy, but there are much more functional weather apps when you need them--and you just don't need a weather app on all the time. The stock clock is ridiculously huge and some of the other optional Sense clocks are OK, but there are a million other clocks out there for free. Found a free calendar widget that is much more customizable and therefore nicer looking with my many backgrounds. Touchdown is better email app (but not cheap). One thing at a time, everything is getting replaced. Not sure what elements of Sense I'm still using!
Thanks, Robertus
I love asop. I love being able to use launcher pro and hide apps that i don't want to see. I love the speed. And every app works great on asop. I've tried to go back to sense but i only last a day at the most. I think the dailer on stock android is awesome.
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I started off with Sense and tried the ASOP mods.
ASOP is very minimalistic. BUT Sense is TOO MUCH.
Google needs a good clock and a better calender and better icons. If they fix that, ill be solid with ASOP.
I like rooting so that I can get to enjoy both sense and aosp. Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Both have pluses and minuses. Can we agree to that?
End of story.
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Wow you clearly missed the point of the thread
Just looking for opinions.... am I way off base here
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He was looking for opinions on Sense vs ASOP. He wants to know the pros and cons
I keep trying all the AOSP roms but keep going back to Das BAMF 1.8.6 because it's the most stable, has the least bugs, and the longest battery life. At least for me.
Its a personal preference, so there is no right or wrong answer. I definitely love AOSP. Just cleaner, every app works as intended, moddable.. most importantly (typically) ultra stable and fast.
I personally like the dialer, but usually people get hung up (no pun intended) on that. I love the fact that I can choose to dial, use favourites, have an easy to access call log, etc.. and if I can't manage to find someone in all that.. i can just hit the search key (you remember that little button on the bottom right side).
I do love some of the sense options but not enough to buy the farm. It would be nice to have a middle ground, but I guess i kind of do with AOSP and the mods.
I there any way to enable the quick lookup feature on AOSP? I mainly use quick lookup to easily translated web pages.
ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
Best rom that's stable and most themed is Sky ice cream rom by Sean. GO flash it hands down the best rom in our dev forum.
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ok i have looked online and i have seen that on other Samsung android phones you can remove touchwiz by installing a "stock" rom, but to me a stock rom is the one with Touchwiz.... can someone link me to a rom thats stable and doesnt have touchwiz....im new to this phone and been using the inspire 4g but the glass shattered...i understand i will have to root phone that i know but the roms for this phone nobody seems to post pictures of what they look like.
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
Yap its still young phone and we still have more roms compare to vivid and holiday combine. Once ICS comes than it will be different flashing game haha
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thanks i just felt wierd coming from inspire thier development area has some really really good roms for that phone, came here and was just overwhelmed with the choices and none seemed to stand out among the crowd. Ill give it a go i just really really despise touchwiz ui and its the reason i normally stay away from sammy phones, that and the fact samsung is extremely slow to put out new os's on their phones if they ever do...got burnt on the Behold 2 never got my update cause they never put it out.
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So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
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So does the Sky ICS ROM have Touchwiz removed? You state it is themed... but never removed... I just ask because I am very curious about this phone, but depise the iPhone rip-off that touchwiz brings to android.
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You won't see touchwiz unless you chose that launcher and if you don't chose that launcher than you won't see touch wiz. You got option there like ICS launcher and every other things like setting, contacts, and stuff is ics themed.
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exactly, you don't need to root or flash a custom rom to get rid of Touchwiz. For example, download "Gingerbread Launcher" and set as default when it prompts you. Turns your phone into a vanilla gingerbread android phone and Touchwiz is gone. I use ADW Launcher Ex and set it to "Fast" preset. Phone absolutely flies and no sign of Touchwiz anywhere. Stock everything for me.
ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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WTF?
really?
does anyone actually understand that Touchwiz is MORE than a launcher?
and you cant remove it from the launcher bar? where did you hear such asinine things?
its pretty well documented all over the Touchwiz device forums how the launcher bar works....SMH
app drawer
menu button
view type
customizable grid
menu button
edit
drag n freakin drop what you want, where you want
DONE
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ive been having issues with ever single rom in here. my fav the nexusmod, facebook app doesnt work it makes me use the browser, a few others camera doesnt work or gps doesnt work. or its overclocked which makes the battery die faster. i just want a damn rom thats as basic as it can be but still have everything work... and only reason i hate touchwiz launcher is i dont use the email app and from what i read you cant remove it from that launcher bar.
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Really? I make it my business to never take part in flaming or making a member feel unwanted, but really? What have you contributed to the community to make such a demand? Such a request shows your ignorance towards the hard work and dedication that is put into the work that you use for FREE!
If you are not satisfied with the the work the community provides, don't use it. I speak for the entire development community when I say Restore your device to stock and STFU you ungrateful bastard.
If i offended anyone, I apologize but it's individuals like this guy that make devs feel unappreciated.
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Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
Wtf, you know this thread is a year old? No you can't remove touch and what does tibu and rom manager have to do with it?
What was the best before sliced bread?
nemaca said:
Ok, so maybe I'm a bit thik in this smartphone thingie, sorry to post on S II.
I got an i9070 (SGSAdvanced) and I would like to remove Touchwiz, since I got APEX installed. Now... from what I gather here, Touchwiz is a different, more complex animal then APEX and basically can't/shouldn't be removed? If so, does it slow down my phonw, like say... a PC with 2 OS installed(e.g.: Windows7+Ubuntu)?
I got Titanium and RomManager too, all the free versions. I'll gladly pay full versions when I'll be a bit used to them, learning atm, same case with APEX. Altough I don't know what APEX full has extra yet.
Anyway. I thankd the people that answered already, hoping for a YES you can remove, NO, you can't remove, BUT you can make it so it doesn't draw resources, and THIS is the Dumbie link for doing that.
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you are in the skyrocket section, you need to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1952. and the answer is yes you can remove touchwiz.
No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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No you cant remove tw from a stock system if you think you can you need to do a lot more digging. Try removing twframework.apk see what happens try removing systemui.apk too while you're at it. Jesus you noobs kill me with false info.
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Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
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Who said anything about removing either of those files? He can click the link in my last post for a rom without touchwiz. Chill bro
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For clarity, you can't remove it but, you're correct that, you can find roms that don't rely on tw.
What was the best before sliced bread?
I can't understand what you guys are saying about . Why he want to install a new rom ??? Just remove touchwiz using Root explorer like ES File editor and add a custom launcher like Nova . Is that the easy method ???
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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@AlfasPeralassery touchwiz isn't just a launcher. If you try and delete it the whole shebang goes to crap.
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Hope you are doing well . Sorry if my question was wrong . I can't understand . Touchwiz is a launcher created by samsung for their devices .
Or is touchwiz a rom or kernal ? .I DELETED TOUCHWIZ FROM MY S DUOS . I am using nova launcher succesfully without any error .
Please describe me if my assumption about tochwiz was wrong.
Touchwiz consists of several pieces taking out the launcher is part of it but that doesn't remove touchwiz itself. Touchwiz is deeper than a launcher.
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I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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the last overhaul was the galaxy s3, it wasnt so long ago....
Meh. I really like TouchWiz for what it is. When I was toying with the One before I got my S4, and I thought Sense 5 was still pretty heavily integrated, just as much as TouchWiz is on the S4. I would imagine an overhaul of both stock Android and TouchWiz will come with Key Lime Pie, whenever that is released.
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+1 thats what makes it what it is...tw...runs good...and I have ran every launcher out there....
I have personally thought that although there are tons of bloats, it does its job fairly well. Pretty snappy and responsive. I have looked at sense ui and realized that touchwiz isn't too bad at all.
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I think that on modern phones, if people are running into lag, they don't know how to use their device properly. Disable animations, don't overload it with apps you rarely use, turn off settings you rarely use until you need them. Root helps. Freeze/uninstall bloat. I have no issues at all with both my E4GT and my S4. Why? Because I know how to make the best of it.
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I say TW is simply scratched and something new is born. Stock TW is garbage.
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Why is it garbage?
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fredrick1213 said:
I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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Funny I think stock android needs an overhaul. Its too plain and lacks of features. I mean it doesnt even have a quick toggle in the dropdown or brightness control. The simplest features.
I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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I was fan of CyanogenMod for years now, and didn't care that bluetooth FC or something was wonky in the camera, but because of the TV remote?!**^ the first ROM I flashed was GoldenEye with no add ons, and it's my very first TW instead of AOSP.
I used to be a purist too, but TWRP is too easy, those hard button operations I used to have to do in CWM, don't miss it one bit. And this ROM has cool features as is, flashed it with a simple swipe of a slider bar. Mind numbing easy. I even ditched the original nandoid and moved it to the desktop computer to save 3.56 GB of room on my SD card. I used TWRP to make a backup of my presently pleased state of GoldenEye perfection and checked every available box, and only it's 2.47 GB. Big difference!
I flashed my 2.47 GB backup of my GoldenEye, with no add ons, and found no issues. Flawless. Everything works. No bugs. Not one instance of lag or a force close. Call log and texts messages did not go away. I checked every box when I made my backup. Unbelievable perfection in image reflection!
Last week I dropped it in the toilet with the charge port door open on it's otterbox.
When I was no longer able to charge it, I replaced the charging port myself, just to keep MDL and free from having to endure what everyone with MF3 suffers. It wasn't too hard peeling apart the S4 just to replace the charging port. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5e3r_2N15c You don't have to get this deep into it, only one connector up top instead of all five. I bought my replacement charge port from his YouTube link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...veASIN=B00DHZ2KZ8&linkCode=as2&tag=three04-20
It cost me $14.99 delivered in in two days flat. It arrived yesterday on Saturday and I was able to have the desktop recognize it and it charges like new and I am BOASTING!
Sign that petition that's floating around and get the bootloader unlocked. And say nice things about the whiz kids who are trying to find an exploit for all the MF3 borked users. Amen.
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Different Strokes for Different Folks--Not much new here--
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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lol, yeah
we posted at same time never read yours before i posted
I loved Cyanogenmod for years on my S1 and S2. Next AOKP on my S2 was the ****e. Then when ShoStock came to be I tried out Touchwiz based Roms. Sammy did it right with TW this time around. Next was my S3 and TW was real nice with LoserRom and his later creations. Yes the bloat ATT adds is crappy and some of Sammy apps as well. But it is fast and smooth and everything works. Run a custom ROM without the bloat, add in what most CM has for mods to it and it is awesome. Now with my S4 I went straight to ShoStock on its very first bootup.
Did I say I hate ATT yet. Last phone I buy from them though with f'd up bootloaders.
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Maybe I was a bit too harsh. TW has just been frustrating me. I expect a device with these specs to run almost flawlessly. I'm not new to rooting or android so of course I know how to speed the device up. It does get faster when I do this, but still not where it should be
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Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
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Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
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Correct, there are many more choices out there, that doesn't have tw as stock launcher.
I dunno, with a few tweaks, tw is super fast.
I actually like TW on the S4 as well. No issue so far here. Smooth and no freezes.
I don't think most people realize it's not tw that's the issue. It's the bloat at&t and Samsung put on the phone. Without that most would love tw. It works!