After much searching on this forum and many others, I am still unable to discern if there is a method available to achieve video capture at 720p with my Droid 2 Global.
If I have understood correctly the pages-upon-pages of discussion and product specifications that I've read through in search for an answer, a mobile phone's ability to record HD video depends on the specification of its processor.
The facts seem to be that the D2G is technically capable of recording 720p video, whereas the vastly more popular Droid 2 is not, by nature of their differing processors.
The D2G's "TI OMAP3630-1200" processor, as stated by Motorola's Developer web page, is identical to those of the Droid X and Milestone 2 (the Euro-market version of the Droid 2) in all but its clock speed, "TI OMAP3630-1000." Both the Droid X and Milestone 2 are capable of capturing 720p video.
I am merely an enthusiastic user of my phone, and have never even dabbled with development. Yet it seems to me, given the many other 'miracles' I've witnessed accomplished on these phones, that there certainly must be a member of this assuredly knowledgeable forum that can offer me either an explanation as to how I can capture 720p video with my D2G, or at least why it will never be possible as it is with a Milestone 2.
Thanks very much; I'm waiting with bated breath for a reply.
-Benjamin
It can also be limited by the camera sensor, which I believe is the case with the d2g
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App
Thanks very much for your prompt input. I do appreciate greatly any suggestion that might ultimately give me the answer I desire.
However, I must admit, without any data sheet to prove that the image sensors used in the Droid 2 Global and Milestone 2 are in fact different (and believe me, I've searched... and searched for such specific device information), I find this suggestion to be less than satisfying an answer as to why I cannot capture 720p video with my D2G.
In fact, I'm lead to believe by Motorola's Developer Website that the image sensors used in each the Milestone 2 and Droid 2 Global are identical (as is most all of the componentry used in the phones), by nature of there being no differences in the six lines of specifications listed under the "Camera" category on each of the phone's spec sheets. It's unfortunate Motorola has not seen fit to post the precise specifications of the sensors themselves.
And so I implore this knowledgeable community to yet point me in the correct direction of a satisfying answer--whether proving the image sensor in my D2G is different than that of a Milestone 2 and isn't technically capable of capturing 720p video, or providing me with a more positive solution.
many thanks,
Benjamin
I am curious a well. Developers pay little attention to such a great phone
I believe it has a lot to do with the hype. Droid X, Original Droid and Droid 2 get a lot more attention from Motorola and Developers. Noticed the number of ROMs for the D2G, not D2 ports. Updates roll pretty slow for the D2G as well.
Even if the D2G is capable of recording 720P videos, Motorola has to remember that the D2G exists and Verizon must approve of such updates and the company pushing out the update must not screw up.
OR XDA devs with an ugly duckling(D2G in this case), can make the very few owners of a D2G happy by finding a way to help us record 720P. Somewhat pointless at this point when everyone is targeting 1080P.
Don't you just hate how Android fragmentation makes 2-months old devices look like dinosaurs?
Rusty is correct, But there is much more than just the camera sensor involved. The Video SubSystem also has a lot to do with the ability of a camera to create trup 720P video.
It does however start with the camera sensor. the resolution of the CMOS determines the Native capabilities.
The sensor must be able to resolve enough pixels to make a true 720P (1280X720).
Anything less would not be a true 720P capture. That doesn't mean a phone could not then upconvert it to a 720P format which is what I expect the Milestone and Dx do via it's video subsystem if the cameras CMOS' are actually the same.
It's not true 720P as it really does not have the true resolution of a native 720P capture it is merely scaled to 720P by adding pixels (based on the pixels that surround it) and creating a 720P output from (ie) a WVGA capture.
Its kind of the same thing as DVD player with 1080P Upconvert does.
The DVD is really a 720 X 480 source that is scaled to 1080P but you get no extra detail from the original in that scalling.
Thanks to all who have replied thus far. Your responses have painted a clearer picture for me of what is necessary to capture 720p video in general, and why it's not currently possible to do so with the Droid 2 Global.
Asphynx:
It's not true 720P as it really does not have the true resolution of a native 720P capture it is merely scaled to 720P by adding pixels (based on the pixels that surround it) and creating a 720P output from (ie) a WVGA capture.
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This makes sense, and I'm glad you brought this issue to light. I'd be extremely interested to know if the Milestone 2 does in fact capture video in this manner, rather than native 720p! If that is in fact the case, I'd be happy to just keep capturing in 720x480 with my D2G, and then upscale in post. (I'd imagine the superior power of a desktop's cpu, coupled with the correct video-editing software, could do a damn-sight better job of upscaling the video than a phone anyway.)
Neurotica:
XDA devs with an ugly duckling(D2G in this case), can make the very few owners of a D2G happy by finding a way to help us record 720P
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I realize all too well that the D2G is an oft looked-over phone on the developing scene. And it's an outright shame. It's such a powerful, flexible phone; and when running the Fission 2.4.3 ROM, I find it hard to believe there's a better phone available on the market currently--to serve my needs at least.
I implore the talented developers of this forum to unlock the potential of the Droid 2 Global's hardware (if it does indeed exist) to allow video capture at 720p, using the Milestone 2 as a reference. You'd make a very happy man out of me indeed, and as it would seem, many others.
Thanks to all again for their time attending to my questions.
-Benjamin
It would be great if someone could make D2G work on CDMA and GSM network simultaneously as MOTOROLA XT800+ can (only for Chinese market).
I am looking for its radio to try it on my D2G
any ideas from your side guys?
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Originally Posted by Iff
Turns out 720p recording is even simpler than I thought. Assuming you're using Motorola's camera app and not the stock one, all you have to do is open /system/build.prop and find this line near the bottom:
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ro.media.capture.maxres=5m
Change it to
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
Then reboot your phone. After that, go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications, find the Camera app in the All tab, force stop it if it's running and Clear Data and 720p video ready for you.
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Originally Posted by Iff
Turns out 720p recording is even simpler than I thought. Assuming you're using Motorola's camera app and not the stock one, all you have to do is open /system/build.prop and find this line near the bottom:
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=5m
Change it to
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ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
Then reboot your phone. After that, go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications, find the Camera app in the All tab, force stop it if it's running and Clear Data and 720p video ready for you.
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It can't be as simple as that. There is a lot more involved than just editing the build prop.
• Sent from my HD-II running HyperDroid GBX-12
Thank you very much helizus for your contribution towards solving this issue. However, I can confirm that although editing the "build.prop" as described will alter the Camera app to include menu settings that allow the selection of a option to film in "High Definition (720p)," the application will in fact crash once the Record button is pressed with the aforementioned HD setting selected. Neurotica was right to be doubtful.
Surely altering software in attempts to make use of hardware that doesn't exist is not the answer to this issue--
It may not make sense to tell a Droid 2 Global that it has the 8-megapixel camera of a Droid X in an attempt to trick it into filming in 720p, but let's be clear in understanding, that is not to say the D2G's 5-megapixel camera isn't sufficient to do the job. After all, the Milestone 2 makes do with its 5-megapixel camera.
THERE MUST BE A WAY TO FILM @720p WITH MY D2G!
...my enthusiasm to find an answer is getting the better of me. Apologies.
This answer becomes all the more frustratingly absent now that I actually have a menu on my phone depicting its elusive ability to capture video in HD.
-Benjamin
Here is the video recorded by D2G on Liberty. mediafire.com/file/dirwzhsti51r3ey/VID_20110416_162801.mp4
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So the reason why it worked for helizus is maybe because he is running Liberty in his D2G?
Hey everyone, I'm getting tired of being ignored on this forum so I'm asking here now. Can I run a Droid 2 Gingerbread Rom on my Droid 2 Global? I know that there's a patch out there that I can apply but, will it work or not because no one has mentioned this that I can find and I've been looking for two weeks.
I posted this question last night and have been ignored and not answered as well.
Thanks for the help any one who answers me here.
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Hey everyone, I'm getting tired of being ignored on this forum so I'm asking here now. Can I run a Droid 2 Gingerbread Rom on my Droid 2 Global? I know that there's a patch out there that I can apply but, will it work or not because no one has mentioned this that I can find and I've been looking for two weeks.
I posted this question last night and have been ignored and not answered as well.
Thanks for the help any one who answers me here.
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It is not nice to hijack others threads, but let me answer your question: no, you cannot run D2 Gingerbread on your Droid 2 global (A956).
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Thank you very much helizus for your contribution towards solving this issue. However, I can confirm that although editing the "build.prop" as described will alter the Camera app to include menu settings that allow the selection of a option to film in "High Definition (720p)," the application will in fact crash once the Record button is pressed with the aforementioned HD setting selected. Neurotica was right to be doubtful.
Surely altering software in attempts to make use of hardware that doesn't exist is not the answer to this issue--
It may not make sense to tell a Droid 2 Global that it has the 8-megapixel camera of a Droid X in an attempt to trick it into filming in 720p, but let's be clear in understanding, that is not to say the D2G's 5-megapixel camera isn't sufficient to do the job. After all, the Milestone 2 makes do with its 5-megapixel camera.
THERE MUST BE A WAY TO FILM @720p WITH MY D2G!
...my enthusiasm to find an answer is getting the better of me. Apologies.
This answer becomes all the more frustratingly absent now that I actually have a menu on my phone depicting its elusive ability to capture video in HD.
-Benjamin
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actually it is pretty simple just install Liberty 2.0.1 and then the romer you can find it at droidforums.net look it up around when you have those 2 things installed you dont have to touch the build.prop because you should be able to record 720p
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I think you are all missing the point regarding 720.
You can easily create a 720P file in any device but unless you are capturing it in that native resolution all you are actually doing is taking a low res capture and scaling it into a higher res format with none of the actual resolution of the 720P standard.
It's like up-converting an SD 16X9 video into 1080P. Sure the file shows as a 1080P file but the resolution is still Standard Def with some sides cut off and the pixels that was once one now shown as 4!
You are mixing up file format with actual resolution.
If you take a picture that has only 345,600 Pixels of resolution you can convert it to a file that displays with 921,600 Pixels of resolution but those extra pixels do not actually make the picture better! Just uses 2.6 pixels per original piece of data!
It's basically data and you can't create data that doesn't really exist.
32 is the same number in 32 Bit as it is in 64 bit. Converting it to 64 bit doesn't make it any more precise than it was as a 32 Bit integer.
It similar with what this boot.prop trick is doing.
Yes it saves a file that says it is 720P. But it;s nothing more than the standard resolution you had before in a 720 display format. It ddn't add resolution it merely doubled the same bad resolution you started with.
Look at it next to a TRUE 720P Native capture and you will see the difference.
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Can we record videos in 720P if we load android onto HTC HD 2 ?
To be polite NO
No because an android port is not possible yet, ( although it is linux with a pretty UI ), and our hardware cannnot do 720p unfortunately.
okay, but with the hd2's config, shouldnt it be able to do 720p video recording in its current setup itself? at 5 megapixels, the camera is decently equipped to handle 720p hd video, and of course i am guessing, but with a 1 ghz cpu, hd video should be possible?
Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too
all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .
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all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .
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This one has no UMTS abilities ;-)
i don't understand why HD2 can't recording in 720p, he has the hardware capacity
Windows Mobile...
It's not a hardware limitation, the Snapdragon chip is more than capable of encoding and decoding 720p video. However, Windows Mobile does not support this in any shape or form. So as long as we're running Windows Mobile, no 720p for us, unless it's somehow hacked in...
we have 640i,
dont know about 720p. But i am pretty sure with the right camera drivers and htc hacks atleast 720i should be possible. But i guess no good the sensor of our hd2 is and if it can take so much pixels at that desired framerate
i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now
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i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now
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I think you are wrong. You forget that you are running a port of and OS. This Android port will never function as native Android phones. Compare the hardware of the HD2 with any of the 720p recording Android phones and you will see that there are no major differences, at least none that can affect recording. But remember that the bitrate of a video shot in 720p resolution is lower than the video of a hand held camera. All we have in the Android port is the work of people working with drivers and tweaking it. As buggy as it was in the beginning, the Android port got a lot better that it can be compared to native Android phones. Patience is a virtue
guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p
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Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too
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my theory: technically it's a slr xD
I've been fooling around a bit with the camera and turned up with over 4000 pics taken in the last 3 months. i figured a few things out and will attach a few shots just to proof my theory 'bout the slr^^
edit: [i also realized a clicking noise while taking the shots, similiar to the noise a big slr makes]
and doesn't the dpi (96/128) take effect on HD recording/displaying?
just an idea^^
galati said:
guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p
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Yes, I have a Toshiba TG01 WinMO 6.5. Itcomes with the same 1GHz Snapdragon 8520 chipset. We also can't use HD 720p recording The HD7 has the SAME chipset as the HD2 and TG01, so it's definitely not a hardware limitation. I hope with the arrival of WP7 on HD2 will 'unlock' this feature. WE have good news on our TG01 forum. We are going to be expecting the first WP7Beta within the next few days
You can on the HD7.
i though this was an app >.> omg
hey guys!!!!
i just figured out that wp7 on the hd7 runs with more than 600 dpi, winmo 6.5.~ runs with 128 dpi. THAT is why we can't record in 720p!
i hope your not so disappointed afterall, since the hd2 is the first device known to run Mameo, Android, Ubuntu, WinMo an WinPhone. So just wait a few weeks 'til wp7 is ported!
hi quys i have android 2.2 froyo and it is possible qwga resolution, but on 720p it crashes, while recording it is all good, but on playback video is all pink,green...
question> Is continious focus in video mode possible and ported on HD2
Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x720 resolution. Try it
barbarosie_alexandru said:
Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x780 resolution. Try it
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see? i told you guys this has something to do with winmo 6 xD
There are Google Devs that visit XDA right? Can one please confirm whether or not the Nexus S will do 720p. The specs say no, but I'm hoping its a typo. If not out of the box, then surely a software update will add it?
I would like to know this also
i'm not a google dev but it's confirmed that out of the box there is no 720p. Max resolution is 720x480.
However, the phone should support it since the Nexus one could and i'm pretty sure the galaxy s can as well. Hopefully within a few months (maybe weeks) of it being out with the source code people will be able to enable it.
the leaked nexus s sample video is 720p, so maybe it does have the feature.
here is the video and you can change the resolution to 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0n0H179jY&feature=player_embedded
Just throwing this out there, on the official nexus s page, it says it takes HD Video...
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
HTC HD2 MAN said:
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.
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Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.
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Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.
On their features page they have mentioned this;
The rear-facing 5 megapixel camera is capable of taking stunning pictures and HD videos that you can share with friends and family. The front-facing camera can take VGA quality images and video.
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come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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(Just to avoid total typ'o'fest... 1280x720 (non-interlaced) == 720p)
720 x 480 is not VGA quality... so it may, or may not refer to the camera on the back...
It would be a GLARING mistake not to mention a functioning 720p recording on the spec sheet...
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Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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Sadly, no:
Front-facing: VGA (640x480)
From: http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.
It will most likely be added later by google or a developer
Developers added 720p Recording to Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6744172#post6744172
But yea kind of lame by default its not supported considering galaxy S does
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Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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no its not
ice_coffee said:
I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.
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Dont expect the same support on the NS those video codecs were supplied by samsung since this is Google only i wouldn't expect the same playback support the galaxy s line had .mkv...ect
Im really hoping im wrong though
ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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Actually its:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 = 720p
With Nexus S, however, an unexpected trick - in contrast to the Galaxy S, he writes not 720p video, but only 720x480. This is done so as not to create competition for their product. With the same purpose removed the expansion slot and FM-radio. At the Nexus S only built an array of 16 GB, and partly a desire to operators in other markets.
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Looks like a reviewer confirmed the missing 720p recording.
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Google_Nexus_S-rev.html (in Russian)
Even if the phone doesn't support it at the moment, I dont see why the devs here on XDA would'nt be able to add the feature considering it's essentially the same hardware as the Galaxy S..... and not to mention the devs here are awesome.
English translate
http://translate.google.com/transla...=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=iv
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Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.
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the fact that they did not put in bt3, memory car slot, 3g+ and made the NFC read only meaning you can't use it to make payments\in the subway etc.?
This is assuming that devs even care about the Optimus (or Thrill as it will be called in my possession). I thought I would create a small list of ROMs that I would like to see. Take note that 3D isn't the primary goal of the phone, but if I have it I want to be able to use it! I will take 3D into account in the list.
1. Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread that is hybrid of vanilla with the custom 3D menu and features.
2. Sense 3.0 (if not 3.0 at least the lockscreen) with either the LG custom 3D features or those pulled from the Evo 3D.
3. CyanogenMod 7.1 of course. I'm not sure about how 3D will fit in here.
4. Ice Cream Sandwich. I need!
cm7 with all 3d added ploz.
uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
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uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
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Agree. Sense port for lg just does not make sense. I would rather have other features added to custom roms or performance tweaks.
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App
Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
dunngh said:
Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
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jea but it's spamming and useless....
a wish list doesn't hurt actually. just a bit strange when asking for a port of the whole sense launcher instead of individual features to be implemented to optimus ui.
the new ui 2.0 on o3d is actually quite good.
For me, i would wish the following things to be added to the rom:
- more control or user defined actions that can be done via gesture ui
- more lock types instead of just the basic ones. I think both HTC and samsung ones are nice to have.
- a better handwriting ime. HTC ones really shines on this part. I have installed ports of htc ime (chinese) one on my O3D. I wish LG qould have their own. but i doubt it
- put back the FM. thou it is said that it'll be back in next rom. I still keep finger crossed.
- setting for choosing connection method when usb is connected. i like SGS's original setting menu where you can choose to connect as mass storage, klies, just charge phone or manual choose when usb attached. I really have to go through a bit of guessing before i can find out how to connect pc suite.
Guess will come up with more things to add later..
Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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As I understand it the EVO 3D doesn't have a 3D UI at all. Its one of the big things that made the LG seem more 3D oriented whereas the EVO more like throwing 3D on as an afterthought.
They both of course show 3D ONLY in landscape as there would be no point of having it only work in portrait (and it can only be one or the other) as you wouldn't be wanting to watch videos like that and you couldn't shoot videos or photos portrait, because the cameras are laid out in landscape.
Although personally, I couldn't care less about a 3D UI as it just slows down getting to the important stuff like launching games and movie.
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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It would have to take a decent picture at 5MP before that is even remotely plausible.
I don't know why we couldn't make it take 3D pictures at 10MP and then use it's converter to turn then into awesome 2D stills. Probably harder than I think.
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
well a 10mp foot is hard to program but possible. i've read about a special chip with is separated into 12 1mp chips. so its possible to merge but hard for a dev to program it alone...
the unlock of 5mp 3d videos should be possible.
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Well the cameras are actually not have different angles. To put it simple, both are taking picture just like one is our left and one is right eyes. The result 3D photo is the overlapped area of these 2 photos with certain offset.
So in theory, you won't get a full "10mp" 2D photo, but rather may be a useful ~60mp photo for 2D. If dev can stitch the photos this way, may be can work on a panaroma mode for the cameras. This will need to wait for a while thou. Guess at this stage it is still too early for it
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
There is a lot of misuderstanding here it seems as to how the 3d system works. Overlapping two of the images does not result in one larger image the two image arent even close to the same and wont allow you to add more information to create a larger image.
the ababababababa description is exactly how the parallax barrier creates a 3d image for our eyes on screen so that doesnt help either.
coolfi said:
Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
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They are both 5 MP. So they will take the same matter of detail. Why do you think
2*5MP will have better quality/detail?
Just like saying combining 4 dvd's will have the same result as 1 bluray
Just like the saying two eyes are better than one, surely two lenses would be capturing more detail than one even if they are both 5MP. Then there is matter of two lenses that are not capturing the same pixels.
i just want to know after update to gingerbread can infuse record video in 1080 resolution...
Nope.
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this is a myth that has been perpetuated by a rather unclear ad from samsung before the infuse was released. it simply said "1080p video" it did not say video recording but it should have specified it as playback. it also said "gingerbread" and "hdmi" when it should have said "gingerbread or hdmi" since att didn't get gingerbread and wont for probably atleast another month or 2, and because rogers didn't and wont get hdmi.
I read somewhere that if you replace some camera files of the gs2 to the infuse it will have 1080p (has to be gingerbread). Its just sad how Sammy restricts their devices to make their newer ones look better.
i also read somewhere infuse camera module is identical to s2,so technically it's possible.just need software support.
mangesh hotkar said:
i also read somewhere infuse camera module is identical to s2,so technically it's possible.just need software support.
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and hardware that can encode it that fast..
1080p isn't much for a sensor. it only amounts to 2mp so the sensor has never been the limiting factor in smartphone video. video encoding is hardware intensive and though i believe the infuse processor can do it i think it would mean background processes might have to be killed to do it.
Interesting. Out of curiosity, is there anyone here who has been able to record in 1080p even in a "testbed" situation?
Hi guys.
My question is simple. Unlike the Galaxy S, the Nexus S doesn't support (720p) HD video recording. Both devices are essentially the same (Hummingbird chipset, same GPU etc.), so is it possible to enable this feature with a software hack like on the Nexus One? Are there any hardware limitations, if yes, whats the difference with the Galaxy S? If HD is not possible, is somthing like ~960x540 possible?
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Nexus one hack just upscaled videos from 720x480 to 1280x720
I'm not sure but I think I saw somewhere that the ns is missing a piece of hardware compared tothe galaxy s. Although other people were disputing that so hopefully its not true and there is a hack to get HD recording on the ns.
Nexus S camera isn't the same galaxy s its missing the HD encoder chip
720p will never happen
well we can always try hex editing the camera module. It's not difficult...
its been in discussion ever since the nexus s came out over a year ago
if it was that simple it would have happened by now its hardware limitation not software
demo23019 said:
Nexus S camera isn't the same galaxy s its missing the HD encoder chip
720p will never happen
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What about just more than the 480p? Like, 540p... And how about trying with raw files or software encoding? May use lots of space and slow the phone down, but why not...
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Why would you even want to use a phone for video recording, the quality is **** regardless of the resolution.
demo23019 said:
its been in discussion ever since the nexus s came out over a year ago
if it was that simple it would have happened by now its hardware limitation not software
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agreed, but if you beat a dead horse 5x, it'll come back to life
The phone's missing the hardware capability, plain and simple. No amount of hackery will get you a LEGITIMATE HD recording res.
Well, I only partially agree. It's always nice to have a small and more or less decent "camera" wherever you are.
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well we can always try hex editing the camera module. It's not difficult...
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If it's not difficult why haven't you done so?
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actually the nexus s has the HD recording capability built into it. It was originally thought that it didnt support it because of the missing chip but the camera module is a SoC. It is only not supported due to a codec problem, however, ICS was supposed to fix it by adding the h264 encoder codec into the system.
Yeah, but as much as I know, the SoC probably isn't porwerful enough. I think the SGS has a separate chip. (I searched quickly a few moments ago, but maybee what I'm saying is false..)
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noobiekins said:
actually the nexus s has the HD recording capability built into it. It was originally thought that it didnt support it because of the missing chip but the camera module is a SoC. It is only not supported due to a codec problem, however, ICS was supposed to fix it by adding the h264 encoder codec into the system.
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Can you point me to something that shows this is true? I'm not calling you a liar or anything, but I'm not aware of any resolution to the original issue of it NOT having an encoder chip being the reason.