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So,...My girl is taking the NS back no zoom feature in the camera app?

So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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what are you expecting to be "shared"?
no zoom on the camera app is the deal breaker?
are you trolling?
what is the point of this post?

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Yes, as noted in the stickied FAQ, there is no digital zoom in the camera app like on other Android devices. As far as I know, and I'm sure someone will be quick to correct me, there hasn't been a real zoom on any phone.
Personally, this didn't bother me because the digital zoom always looked like crap lol.

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app?
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You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?

shrivelfig said:
You should explain to her the difference between a mobile phone and a digital camera. And if she thinks that she can get the best of both (all) worlds in a single device, perhaps you should tell her about this thing called ... money?
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Bad idea, mate. Talk to a gal about money and all she hears is, "Let's go shopping!"

Smilez_c said:
So,...My girl is taking the NS back because it doesn't have a zoom feature in the camera app? I mean she is reaally upset about that...Share ur thoughts !
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Nearly all cell phone cameras lack "zoom".
What you see in cameras labeled "zoom" is actually cropping, so you end up with a lower quality crop.
Explain that and she'll be okay.

Please stop the arguing in this thread, or it will be closed and infractions/warning PMs will be sent. Thank you.
Edit: Thread cleaned from all the nonsense. Please, keep this on track.

Explain that all she's ever had on any phone is digital zoom which is not supported in the stock Android camera app. There are alternative camera apps in the Market if it's really important to her.

ekerazha said:
Nobody asked for your opinion, "go bith and moan" on another thread if you think it's all ok.
Like I've already explained: "maybe it's not so useful for pictures (because it's a digital zoom) but it could be useful for videos in order to move attention on a detail".
Lack of 720p is another issue, however, 720p recording (just like digital zooming) is usually interpolated on smartphones, so it's not a big one. Moreover, you know it doesn't record at 720p from specs.
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They down sample. There is no issue with downsampling. Upsampling (digital zoom) degrates the image.

JCopernicus said:
They down sample.
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Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic

its called crop it..done looks waaaaay better

I'm liking the responses
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werd theres not really a big use for zooming in anyway just take a pic and pinch to zoom it looks fine tbh. Not a good reason to return a good phone lmfao tell her to send it back get a free phone to make fone calls and text and buy a digital camera so she can take some ugly facebook pics

ekerazha said:
Upsample. Usually on smartphones the sensor is not 720p capable but it has a lower resolution, so you get 720p recording by upsampling frames. However this is off-topic
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Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
Digital zoom in video means downsizing from the sensor resolution to the video resolution. Then upsampling the image information again to make it fit to the recording resolution. You're not gaining anything from digital other than introducing alot of noise.

Tell your girl to get an iphone.

JCopernicus said:
Nope, video is downsampled from the sensor resolution.
720p frames = 1280×720
5MP sensor size = 2560×2048
The image captured by the sensor is downsized to the 720p size.
The reason cellphones aren't capable of 720p is because the hardware can't keep up with downsizing each frame that the camera is capturing.
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So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol

tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an iphone.
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Lol ..
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tekkitan said:
Tell your girl to get an DSLR.
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There, I fixed it for you.

ekerazha said:
So it can downsize to 480p but it can't downsize to 720p... interesting lol
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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.

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Oops, I typed that out wrong. It can't keep up with processing the captured frames after downsizing.
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Nope. There isn't any "downsizing", they are captured at lower resolution than the max resolution available (because of the bus width), usually the resolution is lower than 720p, then they are processed and upscaled to 720p.

[Q] The Milestone 2 can capture 720p video, how can I on my D2G?

After much searching on this forum and many others, I am still unable to discern if there is a method available to achieve video capture at 720p with my Droid 2 Global.
If I have understood correctly the pages-upon-pages of discussion and product specifications that I've read through in search for an answer, a mobile phone's ability to record HD video depends on the specification of its processor.
The facts seem to be that the D2G is technically capable of recording 720p video, whereas the vastly more popular Droid 2 is not, by nature of their differing processors.
The D2G's "TI OMAP3630-1200" processor, as stated by Motorola's Developer web page, is identical to those of the Droid X and Milestone 2 (the Euro-market version of the Droid 2) in all but its clock speed, "TI OMAP3630-1000." Both the Droid X and Milestone 2 are capable of capturing 720p video.
I am merely an enthusiastic user of my phone, and have never even dabbled with development. Yet it seems to me, given the many other 'miracles' I've witnessed accomplished on these phones, that there certainly must be a member of this assuredly knowledgeable forum that can offer me either an explanation as to how I can capture 720p video with my D2G, or at least why it will never be possible as it is with a Milestone 2.
Thanks very much; I'm waiting with bated breath for a reply.
-Benjamin

It can also be limited by the camera sensor, which I believe is the case with the d2g
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Thanks very much for your prompt input. I do appreciate greatly any suggestion that might ultimately give me the answer I desire.
However, I must admit, without any data sheet to prove that the image sensors used in the Droid 2 Global and Milestone 2 are in fact different (and believe me, I've searched... and searched for such specific device information), I find this suggestion to be less than satisfying an answer as to why I cannot capture 720p video with my D2G.
In fact, I'm lead to believe by Motorola's Developer Website that the image sensors used in each the Milestone 2 and Droid 2 Global are identical (as is most all of the componentry used in the phones), by nature of there being no differences in the six lines of specifications listed under the "Camera" category on each of the phone's spec sheets. It's unfortunate Motorola has not seen fit to post the precise specifications of the sensors themselves.
And so I implore this knowledgeable community to yet point me in the correct direction of a satisfying answer--whether proving the image sensor in my D2G is different than that of a Milestone 2 and isn't technically capable of capturing 720p video, or providing me with a more positive solution.
many thanks,
Benjamin

I am curious a well. Developers pay little attention to such a great phone

I believe it has a lot to do with the hype. Droid X, Original Droid and Droid 2 get a lot more attention from Motorola and Developers. Noticed the number of ROMs for the D2G, not D2 ports. Updates roll pretty slow for the D2G as well.
Even if the D2G is capable of recording 720P videos, Motorola has to remember that the D2G exists and Verizon must approve of such updates and the company pushing out the update must not screw up.
OR XDA devs with an ugly duckling(D2G in this case), can make the very few owners of a D2G happy by finding a way to help us record 720P. Somewhat pointless at this point when everyone is targeting 1080P.
Don't you just hate how Android fragmentation makes 2-months old devices look like dinosaurs?

Rusty is correct, But there is much more than just the camera sensor involved. The Video SubSystem also has a lot to do with the ability of a camera to create trup 720P video.
It does however start with the camera sensor. the resolution of the CMOS determines the Native capabilities.
The sensor must be able to resolve enough pixels to make a true 720P (1280X720).
Anything less would not be a true 720P capture. That doesn't mean a phone could not then upconvert it to a 720P format which is what I expect the Milestone and Dx do via it's video subsystem if the cameras CMOS' are actually the same.
It's not true 720P as it really does not have the true resolution of a native 720P capture it is merely scaled to 720P by adding pixels (based on the pixels that surround it) and creating a 720P output from (ie) a WVGA capture.
Its kind of the same thing as DVD player with 1080P Upconvert does.
The DVD is really a 720 X 480 source that is scaled to 1080P but you get no extra detail from the original in that scalling.

Thanks to all who have replied thus far. Your responses have painted a clearer picture for me of what is necessary to capture 720p video in general, and why it's not currently possible to do so with the Droid 2 Global.
Asphynx:
It's not true 720P as it really does not have the true resolution of a native 720P capture it is merely scaled to 720P by adding pixels (based on the pixels that surround it) and creating a 720P output from (ie) a WVGA capture.
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This makes sense, and I'm glad you brought this issue to light. I'd be extremely interested to know if the Milestone 2 does in fact capture video in this manner, rather than native 720p! If that is in fact the case, I'd be happy to just keep capturing in 720x480 with my D2G, and then upscale in post. (I'd imagine the superior power of a desktop's cpu, coupled with the correct video-editing software, could do a damn-sight better job of upscaling the video than a phone anyway.)
Neurotica:
XDA devs with an ugly duckling(D2G in this case), can make the very few owners of a D2G happy by finding a way to help us record 720P
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I realize all too well that the D2G is an oft looked-over phone on the developing scene. And it's an outright shame. It's such a powerful, flexible phone; and when running the Fission 2.4.3 ROM, I find it hard to believe there's a better phone available on the market currently--to serve my needs at least.
I implore the talented developers of this forum to unlock the potential of the Droid 2 Global's hardware (if it does indeed exist) to allow video capture at 720p, using the Milestone 2 as a reference. You'd make a very happy man out of me indeed, and as it would seem, many others.
Thanks to all again for their time attending to my questions.
-Benjamin

It would be great if someone could make D2G work on CDMA and GSM network simultaneously as MOTOROLA XT800+ can (only for Chinese market).
I am looking for its radio to try it on my D2G
any ideas from your side guys?

Moved to General.

Originally Posted by Iff
Turns out 720p recording is even simpler than I thought. Assuming you're using Motorola's camera app and not the stock one, all you have to do is open /system/build.prop and find this line near the bottom:
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=5m
Change it to
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
Then reboot your phone. After that, go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications, find the Camera app in the All tab, force stop it if it's running and Clear Data and 720p video ready for you.

helizus said:
Originally Posted by Iff
Turns out 720p recording is even simpler than I thought. Assuming you're using Motorola's camera app and not the stock one, all you have to do is open /system/build.prop and find this line near the bottom:
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=5m
Change it to
Code:
ro.media.capture.maxres=8m
Then reboot your phone. After that, go to Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications, find the Camera app in the All tab, force stop it if it's running and Clear Data and 720p video ready for you.
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It can't be as simple as that. There is a lot more involved than just editing the build prop.
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Thank you very much helizus for your contribution towards solving this issue. However, I can confirm that although editing the "build.prop" as described will alter the Camera app to include menu settings that allow the selection of a option to film in "High Definition (720p)," the application will in fact crash once the Record button is pressed with the aforementioned HD setting selected. Neurotica was right to be doubtful.
Surely altering software in attempts to make use of hardware that doesn't exist is not the answer to this issue--
It may not make sense to tell a Droid 2 Global that it has the 8-megapixel camera of a Droid X in an attempt to trick it into filming in 720p, but let's be clear in understanding, that is not to say the D2G's 5-megapixel camera isn't sufficient to do the job. After all, the Milestone 2 makes do with its 5-megapixel camera.
THERE MUST BE A WAY TO FILM @720p WITH MY D2G!
...my enthusiasm to find an answer is getting the better of me. Apologies.
This answer becomes all the more frustratingly absent now that I actually have a menu on my phone depicting its elusive ability to capture video in HD.
-Benjamin

Here is the video recorded by D2G on Liberty. mediafire.com/file/dirwzhsti51r3ey/VID_20110416_162801.mp4

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So the reason why it worked for helizus is maybe because he is running Liberty in his D2G?

Hey everyone, I'm getting tired of being ignored on this forum so I'm asking here now. Can I run a Droid 2 Gingerbread Rom on my Droid 2 Global? I know that there's a patch out there that I can apply but, will it work or not because no one has mentioned this that I can find and I've been looking for two weeks.
I posted this question last night and have been ignored and not answered as well.
Thanks for the help any one who answers me here.

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Hey everyone, I'm getting tired of being ignored on this forum so I'm asking here now. Can I run a Droid 2 Gingerbread Rom on my Droid 2 Global? I know that there's a patch out there that I can apply but, will it work or not because no one has mentioned this that I can find and I've been looking for two weeks.
I posted this question last night and have been ignored and not answered as well.
Thanks for the help any one who answers me here.
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It is not nice to hijack others threads, but let me answer your question: no, you cannot run D2 Gingerbread on your Droid 2 global (A956).

AmCupSailor said:
Thank you very much helizus for your contribution towards solving this issue. However, I can confirm that although editing the "build.prop" as described will alter the Camera app to include menu settings that allow the selection of a option to film in "High Definition (720p)," the application will in fact crash once the Record button is pressed with the aforementioned HD setting selected. Neurotica was right to be doubtful.
Surely altering software in attempts to make use of hardware that doesn't exist is not the answer to this issue--
It may not make sense to tell a Droid 2 Global that it has the 8-megapixel camera of a Droid X in an attempt to trick it into filming in 720p, but let's be clear in understanding, that is not to say the D2G's 5-megapixel camera isn't sufficient to do the job. After all, the Milestone 2 makes do with its 5-megapixel camera.
THERE MUST BE A WAY TO FILM @720p WITH MY D2G!
...my enthusiasm to find an answer is getting the better of me. Apologies.
This answer becomes all the more frustratingly absent now that I actually have a menu on my phone depicting its elusive ability to capture video in HD.
-Benjamin
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actually it is pretty simple just install Liberty 2.0.1 and then the romer you can find it at droidforums.net look it up around when you have those 2 things installed you dont have to touch the build.prop because you should be able to record 720p

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I think you are all missing the point regarding 720.
You can easily create a 720P file in any device but unless you are capturing it in that native resolution all you are actually doing is taking a low res capture and scaling it into a higher res format with none of the actual resolution of the 720P standard.
It's like up-converting an SD 16X9 video into 1080P. Sure the file shows as a 1080P file but the resolution is still Standard Def with some sides cut off and the pixels that was once one now shown as 4!
You are mixing up file format with actual resolution.
If you take a picture that has only 345,600 Pixels of resolution you can convert it to a file that displays with 921,600 Pixels of resolution but those extra pixels do not actually make the picture better! Just uses 2.6 pixels per original piece of data!
It's basically data and you can't create data that doesn't really exist.
32 is the same number in 32 Bit as it is in 64 bit. Converting it to 64 bit doesn't make it any more precise than it was as a 32 Bit integer.
It similar with what this boot.prop trick is doing.
Yes it saves a file that says it is 720P. But it;s nothing more than the standard resolution you had before in a 720 display format. It ddn't add resolution it merely doubled the same bad resolution you started with.
Look at it next to a TRUE 720P Native capture and you will see the difference.

[Q] Evo 3D or Optimus 3D (Europe)

Hello, I live in Spain, and here still have not the Evo 3D and it's not clear if it will arrive in this month (as HTC Facebook Spain said) or it will be delayed until September as in U.K. is said.
Well the question is:
Buy right here inmediatelly a cheaper Optimus 3D or wait for very expansive Evo 3D ?
So... Is there anyone that really had test both of them ?
I have all technical information, and I've seen the Dogfight comparison video but these really doesn't help my in my decission.
I am very interested in game compatibility, the GPS behaviour, battery duration and internet browsing experience.
All information about these things will be really appreciated Thanks in advance for your help.

so what i heard is, that the 3D thing is better on the LG phone, but i only can say, that the 3D effect on the LG is very cool.
i know: the EVO 3D can't make 2D videos in FullHD. The LG can.
The Evo has more RAM, but until now i cant notice that 512MB aren't enough.
I would recommend the LG phone. I am very happy with it.

Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo

aliza said:
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
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Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D

Masinac said:
Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
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Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS

i dont think that there are huge differences in these points. so the hardware is almost equal. i use the optimus 3D for navigation. no problems with that.
internet browsing the same. after gingerbread update both standard browser will be the same. i use opera for browsing. its the best for me.
i am not a gamer so i cant tell you anything about that, but both Evo and LG are highend phones... so the differences in those things will be minimal.
that the evo cant record in fullHD was the main reason for me against the evo. ...and of course the price AND that the LG is available in europe
but of course... if you are nut sure.. just wait till you can test the evo by your self. have you looked into EVO 3D forum? perhaps there are more information about that.

aliza said:
Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house

Masinac said:
Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!

aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
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LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..

Masinac said:
but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Yes I noticed that too, I've never had a phone (or any other GPS device) before that got a GPS lock in my house, these must have a very sensitive receiver.
Pete

aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
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Everything works just fine ,apps and games are not the problem

thanks a lot everybody, and excuse me for my bad english, I think I'm gonna try to pickup the Optimus 3D this weekend.

Game compatibility is better on O3D, because it has older PowerVR SGX540, which is widely supported. evo3d has adreno220 which is new chip and thus can have compatibility problems.
evo3d has higher resolution which is not fully supported in some applications.
Many users are complaining of crooked display on evo3d.
O3D`s display has much better brightness and contrast.
GPS in evo3d is poor. You can find threads on web about its inaccuracy.
I have found evo3d to be quite buggy device which has only one advantage to O3D. more RAM.

The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.

Really thanks a lot to everybody.
Now I am looking for the device, I hope I can get one tomorrow.

abo_mara7 said:
LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
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source/proof?

TheOnly1 said:
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
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Cannot agree more with the speed for GPS. Coming from SGS where the GPS is simply useless as you'll need to give it 5 minutes to get it fixed for 5 sec.
Also the GPS that comes with O3D is as fast as my Garmin-Asus M10 which is interesting

[Q] Little question about 3D

Hey,
i don't own an O3D but i wanna buy one.
but theres one thing that i wanna know:
is the 3D effect working with every 3D app or only with camera, pics and vids?

The app needs to support S3D, normal 3D apps won't become 3D just like that but more and more apps, specially games are being augmented with S3D.
There are multiple games now that support the 3D effect and it's actually really nice in most cases

The is a special 3D interface, and there is a 3D gallery, some 3D games, and some 3D applications. At the beggining of October, Android 2.3 update we be released with a feature to convert any app to 3D if it was based on OpenGL.

so ... for example i could convert go launcher with this tool and get an real 3D effect while while changing homescreen? ... omfg .. this would be amazing O.O

Yes, but as many lg 3D users will say, 3D effects will eat v much battery...i mean when ure in 3D apps u will see battery draining right infront of ur eyes...or just in my case...
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA Premium App

but GB should fix battery drain or? .. cause it doesn't need so much battery .. or?

NoDiskNoFun said:
but GB should fix battery drain or? .. cause it doesn't need so much battery .. or?
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It will most likely help with the battery time true but the screen still eats it's fair share.

Okay ... thank you

But:
a) 3D only works in landscape
b) 3D requires you keep the angle right when viewing the screen
As such, I cannot see it being useful at all for a launcher.
Its pretty good for games as long as they are not motion controlled, but certainly its main purpose is for viewing photos and videos as its easier to stay at the right viewing angle for those.

[Q] Simple Question but...

Hi folks. I have p970 and want to buy 3D max but I have few confusions :
1. Does 3D really works or its just a huss-fuss gimmik?
2. To tell truth I never felt 3D on my laptop using 3D googles and 3D movie except 4-5 seconds.
3. Same at cinema hall, I hardly notice any 3D except few scenes, rest all are departed cyan-red overlapping pictures giving terrible headache and cant enjoy at all.
4. I thought may be just I dont feel 3D but its not like, I saw a 3D show on local museum and I really felt the 3D effect n looked good too., so problem is not in me I guess.
Rest you suggestions.

pkb_always4u said:
Hi folks. I have p970 and want to buy 3D max but I have few confusions :
1. Does 3D really works or its just a huss-fuss gimmik?
2. To tell truth I never felt 3D on my laptop using 3D googles and 3D movie except 4-5 seconds.
3. Same at cinema hall, I hardly notice any 3D except few scenes, rest all are departed cyan-red overlapping pictures giving terrible headache and cant enjoy at all.
4. I thought may be just I dont feel 3D but its not like, I saw a 3D show on local museum and I really felt the 3D effect n looked good too., so problem is not in me I guess.
Rest you suggestions.
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Okay , I'll be as plain as possible.
3D is great but not on 3D Max nor any device really. 3D is still in it's infancy so there are problems none of which would bother you from the interface but a problem as in a general way.
Parallax Barrier on the screen will cut the pixels in the screen in half. So it looks bad. Imagine playing a game in 3D but with a 640x480 resolution on a PC. When you connect it to a 3D TV it's okay but with parallax it's not.
Lg is notorious for it's software upgrade schedule you probably won't be up to date with your android device without 3rd party roms.
This is a serious issue , it frustrated me a lot.
But in sum you will feel the 3D and it will give you headaches until you get used to it.
3D Camera and Video is really great , especially when you attach it to a TV.
3D Max has a high-end device price tag but if you think about it and research a little bit more , you'll see there are a lot of devices better than 3D max... Some of them even cost less.
3D max is just a little bit upgraded version of Optimus 3D nothing more.
I got a p920 , it's good , fast , efficient (with a good software i might add.) , So is the 3D Max.
Despite everything i just said , i would hang on to my P920 any day.
It's sturdy , really tough to break even the glass part.
I'm guessing 3D max is probably the same.
Hope i helped.
Cheers!

that's well said
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda app-developers app

Want an advice ? Don't buy LG Anymore.

Thank yu all guys, but main is will I feel 3D or just cyen-red overlapping scenes? And custom ROMs e.g CM, AOKP will give me same 3D effect?

pkb_always4u said:
Thank yu all guys, but main is will I feel 3D or just cyen-red overlapping scenes? And custom ROMs e.g CM, AOKP will give me same 3D effect?
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Yes u feel 3d but maybe no good enough see 3d in 4,3" even it's glass less 3d, but the best parts is u can make 3d video and playing game with 3d converter app. I really love my p920 while playing samurai vengeance in 3d mode
3d not work on CM for now
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Few more Questions
Did you get ICS update from LG? Or any chance of it?
How much rooting is safe ? One click root or some lengthy process?
No cusotm ROM got 3d working?

pkb_always4u said:
Did you get ICS update from LG? Or any chance of it?
How much rooting is safe ? One click root or some lengthy process?
No cusotm ROM got 3d working?
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3D MAX owners should answer this and so far for 3D MAX there is only 1 custom ROM based on factory Gingerbread.
So don't get confused with P920 because we have 27-30 different ROMS to choose starting from factory FROYO's ending to CM10 betas...

3D today is not based on visible light filters like it was in the 70s. You will not see colours blurring. However, on the phone itself you might see an overlap of the two images (left eye and right eye).
3D glasses for the cinema and TV filter polarised light. The images for each eye are polarised differently. This works very well
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