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[Q] Evo 3D or Optimus 3D (Europe)

Hello, I live in Spain, and here still have not the Evo 3D and it's not clear if it will arrive in this month (as HTC Facebook Spain said) or it will be delayed until September as in U.K. is said.
Well the question is:
Buy right here inmediatelly a cheaper Optimus 3D or wait for very expansive Evo 3D ?
So... Is there anyone that really had test both of them ?
I have all technical information, and I've seen the Dogfight comparison video but these really doesn't help my in my decission.
I am very interested in game compatibility, the GPS behaviour, battery duration and internet browsing experience.
All information about these things will be really appreciated Thanks in advance for your help.

so what i heard is, that the 3D thing is better on the LG phone, but i only can say, that the 3D effect on the LG is very cool.
i know: the EVO 3D can't make 2D videos in FullHD. The LG can.
The Evo has more RAM, but until now i cant notice that 512MB aren't enough.
I would recommend the LG phone. I am very happy with it.

Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo

aliza said:
Thanks a lot; really here in Spain people with O3D are very happy, and I have seen the 3D effect yesterday in the Optimus and I really liked it too, problem is... to compare it with the Evo
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Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D

Masinac said:
Then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ssOMl7PWc - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G6oemo900A&feature=relmfu - part 2
All I can tell is that LG Optimus 3D is fantastic,great quality,beautifull screen,very fast and 3D looks amazing I think you should go with LG O3D
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Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS

i dont think that there are huge differences in these points. so the hardware is almost equal. i use the optimus 3D for navigation. no problems with that.
internet browsing the same. after gingerbread update both standard browser will be the same. i use opera for browsing. its the best for me.
i am not a gamer so i cant tell you anything about that, but both Evo and LG are highend phones... so the differences in those things will be minimal.
that the evo cant record in fullHD was the main reason for me against the evo. ...and of course the price AND that the LG is available in europe
but of course... if you are nut sure.. just wait till you can test the evo by your self. have you looked into EVO 3D forum? perhaps there are more information about that.

aliza said:
Thanks a lot, but I had seen those videos before and really didn't answer my questions about compatibility and GPS
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Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house

Masinac said:
Well I dont have Evo 3D but I had same dillema last week ,and I chosed O3D...
I do not know what you mean when you say compatibility, but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!

aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
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LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..

Masinac said:
but I can tell you that GPS works great on O3D.. it find's signal very quickly even when I am in the house
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Yes I noticed that too, I've never had a phone (or any other GPS device) before that got a GPS lock in my house, these must have a very sensitive receiver.
Pete

aliza said:
With compatibility I mean about games that work or don't work in this terminal.
Thanks for the GPs info!
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Everything works just fine ,apps and games are not the problem

thanks a lot everybody, and excuse me for my bad english, I think I'm gonna try to pickup the Optimus 3D this weekend.

Game compatibility is better on O3D, because it has older PowerVR SGX540, which is widely supported. evo3d has adreno220 which is new chip and thus can have compatibility problems.
evo3d has higher resolution which is not fully supported in some applications.
Many users are complaining of crooked display on evo3d.
O3D`s display has much better brightness and contrast.
GPS in evo3d is poor. You can find threads on web about its inaccuracy.
I have found evo3d to be quite buggy device which has only one advantage to O3D. more RAM.

The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.

Really thanks a lot to everybody.
Now I am looking for the device, I hope I can get one tomorrow.

abo_mara7 said:
LG Optimus 3D can run NVIDA Tegra games..
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source/proof?

TheOnly1 said:
The Optimus has one more proved advantage. It has native support for 3D MKV movies. No need to convert at all if you have a huge enough memory card.
As the others already mentioned the GPS is VERY GOOD. I get a fix in under 5 sec with iGo.
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Cannot agree more with the speed for GPS. Coming from SGS where the GPS is simply useless as you'll need to give it 5 minutes to get it fixed for 5 sec.
Also the GPS that comes with O3D is as fast as my Garmin-Asus M10 which is interesting

Optimus 3D ROM Wishlist

This is assuming that devs even care about the Optimus (or Thrill as it will be called in my possession). I thought I would create a small list of ROMs that I would like to see. Take note that 3D isn't the primary goal of the phone, but if I have it I want to be able to use it! I will take 3D into account in the list.
1. Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread that is hybrid of vanilla with the custom 3D menu and features.
2. Sense 3.0 (if not 3.0 at least the lockscreen) with either the LG custom 3D features or those pulled from the Evo 3D.
3. CyanogenMod 7.1 of course. I'm not sure about how 3D will fit in here.
4. Ice Cream Sandwich. I need!

cm7 with all 3d added ploz.

uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"

Mooks said:
uhm... tge devs will do what they'll do.
for sense or vanilla you'll have to w8 a looooong time. hardly anybody whants sense ported because all the sensefeatures are also in the marked (all free and most of the time better) so pls stop writing wishlists or asking questions like "will there be a sense port?"
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Agree. Sense port for lg just does not make sense. I would rather have other features added to custom roms or performance tweaks.
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App

Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?

dunngh said:
Making a wish list isn't hurting anyone is it?
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jea but it's spamming and useless....

a wish list doesn't hurt actually. just a bit strange when asking for a port of the whole sense launcher instead of individual features to be implemented to optimus ui.
the new ui 2.0 on o3d is actually quite good.
For me, i would wish the following things to be added to the rom:
- more control or user defined actions that can be done via gesture ui
- more lock types instead of just the basic ones. I think both HTC and samsung ones are nice to have.
- a better handwriting ime. HTC ones really shines on this part. I have installed ports of htc ime (chinese) one on my O3D. I wish LG qould have their own. but i doubt it
- put back the FM. thou it is said that it'll be back in next rom. I still keep finger crossed.
- setting for choosing connection method when usb is connected. i like SGS's original setting menu where you can choose to connect as mass storage, klies, just charge phone or manual choose when usb attached. I really have to go through a bit of guessing before i can find out how to connect pc suite.
Guess will come up with more things to add later..

Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP

WvanWaas said:
Is the 3D feature of the Evo for Portrait mode or more like the Optimus in the landscape mode. If the evo is in portrait the Sense won't even work in the Optimus 3D. Cooler would be if we start a project with some devs to build a real 3D launcher..... lets say i'm in ;-)
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As I understand it the EVO 3D doesn't have a 3D UI at all. Its one of the big things that made the LG seem more 3D oriented whereas the EVO more like throwing 3D on as an afterthought.
They both of course show 3D ONLY in landscape as there would be no point of having it only work in portrait (and it can only be one or the other) as you wouldn't be wanting to watch videos like that and you couldn't shoot videos or photos portrait, because the cameras are laid out in landscape.
Although personally, I couldn't care less about a 3D UI as it just slows down getting to the important stuff like launching games and movie.
coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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It would have to take a decent picture at 5MP before that is even remotely plausible.

I don't know why we couldn't make it take 3D pictures at 10MP and then use it's converter to turn then into awesome 2D stills. Probably harder than I think.

coolfi said:
Or is there a way to combine the power of two cameras to make one stunning 2d picture?
5MP+5MP = 10MP
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How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.

well a 10mp foot is hard to program but possible. i've read about a special chip with is separated into 12 1mp chips. so its possible to merge but hard for a dev to program it alone...
the unlock of 5mp 3d videos should be possible.

altec1000 said:
How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Well the cameras are actually not have different angles. To put it simple, both are taking picture just like one is our left and one is right eyes. The result 3D photo is the overlapped area of these 2 photos with certain offset.
So in theory, you won't get a full "10mp" 2D photo, but rather may be a useful ~60mp photo for 2D. If dev can stitch the photos this way, may be can work on a panaroma mode for the cameras. This will need to wait for a while thou. Guess at this stage it is still too early for it

altec1000 said:
How? The 2 camera's have different angles. I don't think it is possible.
However the omap 4430 is capable of making two 5MP videoshots. Don't no why
LG have restricted to 3 MP in 3D. Maybe someone can look into that.
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Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.

There is a lot of misuderstanding here it seems as to how the 3d system works. Overlapping two of the images does not result in one larger image the two image arent even close to the same and wont allow you to add more information to create a larger image.
the ababababababa description is exactly how the parallax barrier creates a 3d image for our eyes on screen so that doesnt help either.

coolfi said:
Imagine both cameras are pointing the same direction and taking same picture but with slight offset then joining both the picture to make one supper fine picture.
Normal photo would be either the camera A or camera B like so
example AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
But with both cameras working together it would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA
But that's just a theory it's up to devs, and this is a wish thread after all.
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They are both 5 MP. So they will take the same matter of detail. Why do you think
2*5MP will have better quality/detail?
Just like saying combining 4 dvd's will have the same result as 1 bluray

Just like the saying two eyes are better than one, surely two lenses would be capturing more detail than one even if they are both 5MP. Then there is matter of two lenses that are not capturing the same pixels.

[Q] Little question about 3D

Hey,
i don't own an O3D but i wanna buy one.
but theres one thing that i wanna know:
is the 3D effect working with every 3D app or only with camera, pics and vids?

The app needs to support S3D, normal 3D apps won't become 3D just like that but more and more apps, specially games are being augmented with S3D.
There are multiple games now that support the 3D effect and it's actually really nice in most cases

The is a special 3D interface, and there is a 3D gallery, some 3D games, and some 3D applications. At the beggining of October, Android 2.3 update we be released with a feature to convert any app to 3D if it was based on OpenGL.

so ... for example i could convert go launcher with this tool and get an real 3D effect while while changing homescreen? ... omfg .. this would be amazing O.O

Yes, but as many lg 3D users will say, 3D effects will eat v much battery...i mean when ure in 3D apps u will see battery draining right infront of ur eyes...or just in my case...
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but GB should fix battery drain or? .. cause it doesn't need so much battery .. or?

NoDiskNoFun said:
but GB should fix battery drain or? .. cause it doesn't need so much battery .. or?
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It will most likely help with the battery time true but the screen still eats it's fair share.

Okay ... thank you

But:
a) 3D only works in landscape
b) 3D requires you keep the angle right when viewing the screen
As such, I cannot see it being useful at all for a launcher.
Its pretty good for games as long as they are not motion controlled, but certainly its main purpose is for viewing photos and videos as its easier to stay at the right viewing angle for those.

CM7-SelfKANG1 for Optimus3D

Hey Guys, CM7 Alpha ist ready to downlod

nice, very nice!!!
but one Question:
do the 3D game/apps working?

Very nice! good news to start this week!

only 3 issues?? no other issues?? battery & performance same?
thats amazing start!!!! if this is the start then i think itll take very less time to get a very stable build!

Running awesome on my Thrill! Thanx dev

So. Awesome.
Can't wait to check this out, it would be on my phone right now if the 3d camera worked (I like taking 3d pictures too much, LOL).
Soon as thats working its on. I'm so bored of the stock ROM, this is just in time! Pretty soon lg can keep its boring gingerbread update for all I care arcee!
Sent from my LG-P925g using XDA App

hey can someone tell me how is the performance compared to stock rom and how is the battery? i see that 3d photos are not working what about 3d games and videos?

Hmm the Performance feels like waterbear ROM. Quatrant score (2300) are the same on my device.
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What is the speed in normal use, games?? Better than stock??

First time i open menu or an app, is 1-4 sec. a little bit laggy but than its faster than stock.
My max quatrant score ist 2600
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First feedback
Hi all,
This is my feedback after 3 hours test:
Globaly :
This rom is very fast, just change the default launcher by launcher pro or Go launcher. Everything work for daily usage.
3D:
You will have, after the installation 2 camera software (gingerbread stock) with exactly same name?. One is for video and other is for photo. camera quality is very poor, video and photo appear with green mask..
3D recording, photo and video, don't work for me.
No 3D games
No 3D gallery and other 3D LG stuff
you can play previously 3D video recorded with O3D with good quality but no 3D movies appear sidebyside and no way to change 3D format.
3D photo appear sidebyside.
Bluetooth :
A2DP don't work fine with my car, I can pair devise and play music but DSP application will crash and music stop playing sometime (and replay by self)
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What the ****??
Moderators, please delete this thread. I'll open a proper one as soon as this goes away, it's a no-attribution copy of a post I made elsewhere.

pls delete this thread so arcee can create one and then i can ask a question

Ive doesnt use my O3D since 1 month, cause i only waited for custom Roms. Just got tired of stock Rom. I cant wait to come Home and test it. ;-)
Sorry for my bad english...
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Article that includes an Interview with LG about 3D phones

Here's an article that includes an Interview with an LG representative about 3D phones and the O3D: link
It says among other things:
- 1 million+ sales for O3D
- 0,5 million sales for Max (in South Korea only)
LG still believes in 3D, but not for now, but in the coming years.
The article makes all usual mistakes in believing that the O3D came too early. It also mostly only speaks about the 3D screen. (and ignores the much more important 3D camera).
I have made a (lengthy) response, in which I make a case for:
- bad support form LG
- ghost call issues
- phone lacking just the right specs to succeed (too fat, too slow, too little memory)
- people who had / saw the O3D loved the 3D effect
- 3D camera being more important then 3D screen (too small for movies, target audience is not the gaming audience per se)
If you agree, please like my response, or give simular responses.
Since LG was interviewed for this article, they may track it, and the responses.
they may become aware of the terrible support of the O3D, and see that there's still a living society that loves 3D phones, as long as LG supports it!!!

I highly admire what u did ..but o3d is not getting support because 3d is not well known or used over the world ..but in the coming years I believe we will see alot of advance ..
And LG forgot about O3d for now ..
For me its a great device but the lack of speed kills me as I depend on my phone alot in my daily life ..
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda premium

tnx for this information and for me o3d is an exelent hpone i lick my p920
wi need just frome the lg team devlopers mor worck updat new soft and aps 3d for ur phones
the camera 3d is extra and the ecrant i watch films in and am very hapy wuith this phone
but the stuf of lg is not on top they can mick beter than others fabricant
send from my lg p920 v21e kdz the baby abondoned by his .......
and thats wat i writh in my post
for me this phone lg p920 is the best phone ever mick i buy it 2 yers a go and i stel youse it
i love the 3d game and the camera is the best and the screen is very good i youse it in alle wat i do photos watching movis in 3d gaming and much mor thinck
but the only problem the updat it stel on GB 2.3.5 its tim for a anew softwer ics or jb wai not
lg must tinck abot that for 1 milion phone thats is inexcusable inacceptable