Hi guys.
My question is simple. Unlike the Galaxy S, the Nexus S doesn't support (720p) HD video recording. Both devices are essentially the same (Hummingbird chipset, same GPU etc.), so is it possible to enable this feature with a software hack like on the Nexus One? Are there any hardware limitations, if yes, whats the difference with the Galaxy S? If HD is not possible, is somthing like ~960x540 possible?
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Nexus one hack just upscaled videos from 720x480 to 1280x720
I'm not sure but I think I saw somewhere that the ns is missing a piece of hardware compared tothe galaxy s. Although other people were disputing that so hopefully its not true and there is a hack to get HD recording on the ns.
Nexus S camera isn't the same galaxy s its missing the HD encoder chip
720p will never happen
well we can always try hex editing the camera module. It's not difficult...
its been in discussion ever since the nexus s came out over a year ago
if it was that simple it would have happened by now its hardware limitation not software
demo23019 said:
Nexus S camera isn't the same galaxy s its missing the HD encoder chip
720p will never happen
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What about just more than the 480p? Like, 540p... And how about trying with raw files or software encoding? May use lots of space and slow the phone down, but why not...
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Why would you even want to use a phone for video recording, the quality is **** regardless of the resolution.
demo23019 said:
its been in discussion ever since the nexus s came out over a year ago
if it was that simple it would have happened by now its hardware limitation not software
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agreed, but if you beat a dead horse 5x, it'll come back to life
The phone's missing the hardware capability, plain and simple. No amount of hackery will get you a LEGITIMATE HD recording res.
Well, I only partially agree. It's always nice to have a small and more or less decent "camera" wherever you are.
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djjonastybe said:
well we can always try hex editing the camera module. It's not difficult...
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If it's not difficult why haven't you done so?
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actually the nexus s has the HD recording capability built into it. It was originally thought that it didnt support it because of the missing chip but the camera module is a SoC. It is only not supported due to a codec problem, however, ICS was supposed to fix it by adding the h264 encoder codec into the system.
Yeah, but as much as I know, the SoC probably isn't porwerful enough. I think the SGS has a separate chip. (I searched quickly a few moments ago, but maybee what I'm saying is false..)
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noobiekins said:
actually the nexus s has the HD recording capability built into it. It was originally thought that it didnt support it because of the missing chip but the camera module is a SoC. It is only not supported due to a codec problem, however, ICS was supposed to fix it by adding the h264 encoder codec into the system.
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Can you point me to something that shows this is true? I'm not calling you a liar or anything, but I'm not aware of any resolution to the original issue of it NOT having an encoder chip being the reason.
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Can we record videos in 720P if we load android onto HTC HD 2 ?
To be polite NO
No because an android port is not possible yet, ( although it is linux with a pretty UI ), and our hardware cannnot do 720p unfortunately.
okay, but with the hd2's config, shouldnt it be able to do 720p video recording in its current setup itself? at 5 megapixels, the camera is decently equipped to handle 720p hd video, and of course i am guessing, but with a 1 ghz cpu, hd video should be possible?
Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too
all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .
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all of us hd2 users have been cheated. HTC now released the same model albeit with 8mp camera, android and 720p video recording in the us. How crappy is that? and its unlikely that htc will be releasing updates for hd2. This sucks, we bought the flagship product of the company, and they dont even have the decency to release tweaks which should have been there in the first place. products that are 30% cheaper and with not even half the config can pull 720p video recording .
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This one has no UMTS abilities ;-)
i don't understand why HD2 can't recording in 720p, he has the hardware capacity
Windows Mobile...
It's not a hardware limitation, the Snapdragon chip is more than capable of encoding and decoding 720p video. However, Windows Mobile does not support this in any shape or form. So as long as we're running Windows Mobile, no 720p for us, unless it's somehow hacked in...
we have 640i,
dont know about 720p. But i am pretty sure with the right camera drivers and htc hacks atleast 720i should be possible. But i guess no good the sensor of our hd2 is and if it can take so much pixels at that desired framerate
i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now
jcsy said:
i loaded my htc hd2 with android froyo 2.2
turned on 720p recording, camera crashed
turned on any other recording format, it worked... so im guessing even if the Operating system allowed it, our hardware didnt...
on Windows Mobile, hell thats a no go for now
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I think you are wrong. You forget that you are running a port of and OS. This Android port will never function as native Android phones. Compare the hardware of the HD2 with any of the 720p recording Android phones and you will see that there are no major differences, at least none that can affect recording. But remember that the bitrate of a video shot in 720p resolution is lower than the video of a hand held camera. All we have in the Android port is the work of people working with drivers and tweaking it. As buggy as it was in the beginning, the Android port got a lot better that it can be compared to native Android phones. Patience is a virtue
guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p
suicidal.banana said:
Yes and no, its in the realm of the possible but currently not much is known about the camera, there have been tweaks in the past (like 7mp panorama shot) that turned out to not really work.
I would like to see it as much as you though, heres to hoping some of the devs want it too
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my theory: technically it's a slr xD
I've been fooling around a bit with the camera and turned up with over 4000 pics taken in the last 3 months. i figured a few things out and will attach a few shots just to proof my theory 'bout the slr^^
edit: [i also realized a clicking noise while taking the shots, similiar to the noise a big slr makes]
and doesn't the dpi (96/128) take effect on HD recording/displaying?
just an idea^^
galati said:
guys the new htc hd7 with win mobile 7 have the same camera 5 mp and she record on 720p
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Yes, I have a Toshiba TG01 WinMO 6.5. Itcomes with the same 1GHz Snapdragon 8520 chipset. We also can't use HD 720p recording The HD7 has the SAME chipset as the HD2 and TG01, so it's definitely not a hardware limitation. I hope with the arrival of WP7 on HD2 will 'unlock' this feature. WE have good news on our TG01 forum. We are going to be expecting the first WP7Beta within the next few days
You can on the HD7.
i though this was an app >.> omg
hey guys!!!!
i just figured out that wp7 on the hd7 runs with more than 600 dpi, winmo 6.5.~ runs with 128 dpi. THAT is why we can't record in 720p!
i hope your not so disappointed afterall, since the hd2 is the first device known to run Mameo, Android, Ubuntu, WinMo an WinPhone. So just wait a few weeks 'til wp7 is ported!
hi quys i have android 2.2 froyo and it is possible qwga resolution, but on 720p it crashes, while recording it is all good, but on playback video is all pink,green...
question> Is continious focus in video mode possible and ported on HD2
Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x720 resolution. Try it
barbarosie_alexandru said:
Just flashed windows phone 7 on the HD2, I can confirm that 720p recording is real. No issues with recording or playing. It records in .mp4 with 1280x780 resolution. Try it
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see? i told you guys this has something to do with winmo 6 xD
There are Google Devs that visit XDA right? Can one please confirm whether or not the Nexus S will do 720p. The specs say no, but I'm hoping its a typo. If not out of the box, then surely a software update will add it?
I would like to know this also
i'm not a google dev but it's confirmed that out of the box there is no 720p. Max resolution is 720x480.
However, the phone should support it since the Nexus one could and i'm pretty sure the galaxy s can as well. Hopefully within a few months (maybe weeks) of it being out with the source code people will be able to enable it.
the leaked nexus s sample video is 720p, so maybe it does have the feature.
here is the video and you can change the resolution to 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0n0H179jY&feature=player_embedded
Just throwing this out there, on the official nexus s page, it says it takes HD Video...
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
HTC HD2 MAN said:
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.
saint327 said:
Yeah it's that 720x480 spec that throws me off. I'm hoping its a typo. I did see where it said HD video. That and the youtube video testing the quality are good signs that point to 720p I guess. A confirmation and/or correction to the specs would be nice though.
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Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.
On their features page they have mentioned this;
The rear-facing 5 megapixel camera is capable of taking stunning pictures and HD videos that you can share with friends and family. The front-facing camera can take VGA quality images and video.
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HTC HD2 MAN said:
come on if you want to know info on a phone take at least do some HARD CORE researching lol. http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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(Just to avoid total typ'o'fest... 1280x720 (non-interlaced) == 720p)
720 x 480 is not VGA quality... so it may, or may not refer to the camera on the back...
It would be a GLARING mistake not to mention a functioning 720p recording on the spec sheet...
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Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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Sadly, no:
Front-facing: VGA (640x480)
From: http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.
It will most likely be added later by google or a developer
Developers added 720p Recording to Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6744172#post6744172
But yea kind of lame by default its not supported considering galaxy S does
rajendra82 said:
Clearly the 720x480 video resolution is for the front facing camera.
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no its not
ice_coffee said:
I Don't understand how this is even a question, we have established this is fundamentally the same phone as the current Galaxy S (I own one) which out of the box running 2.1 eclair had Full 720p support, both Video record (rear 5mp camera only) and playback, in fact it is so cool I am able to play the 720P .mkv High Def TV show downloads you see floating around on the net.
All this straight out of the box.
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Dont expect the same support on the NS those video codecs were supplied by samsung since this is Google only i wouldn't expect the same playback support the galaxy s line had .mkv...ect
Im really hoping im wrong though
ZeroSX said:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 != 720p
I'm hoping it's a typo, because I really want to like this phone.
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Actually its:
720 x 480 != 1280 x 720 = 720p
With Nexus S, however, an unexpected trick - in contrast to the Galaxy S, he writes not 720p video, but only 720x480. This is done so as not to create competition for their product. With the same purpose removed the expansion slot and FM-radio. At the Nexus S only built an array of 16 GB, and partly a desire to operators in other markets.
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Looks like a reviewer confirmed the missing 720p recording.
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Google_Nexus_S-rev.html (in Russian)
Even if the phone doesn't support it at the moment, I dont see why the devs here on XDA would'nt be able to add the feature considering it's essentially the same hardware as the Galaxy S..... and not to mention the devs here are awesome.
English translate
http://translate.google.com/transla...=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=iv
HTC HD2 MAN said:
Don't worry about it, it DOES have it. What make you think a (google baby) high-end, 2.3 android, 2nd phone in the nexus line won't have 720p? haha all high-end phones will be having 720p.
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the fact that they did not put in bt3, memory car slot, 3g+ and made the NFC read only meaning you can't use it to make payments\in the subway etc.?
I was wondering the nexus S runs gingerbread , and gingerbread itself is known to lack HD recording and playback codecs maybe thats y nexus S cant record in 720p as technically it is the same as the galaxy in hardware, just a newer and different android os.
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rafi300 said:
I was wondering the nexus S runs gingerbread , and gingerbread itself is known to lack HD recording and playback codecs maybe thats y nexus S cant record in 720p as technically it is the same as the galaxy in hardware, just a newer and different android os.
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This has been covered in a few threads. It's not the same hardware. The Galaxy S uses an external image processing component to work around an SOC clock rate limitation. The Nexus S lacks this due to not having the necessary PCB space.
See here: http://twitter.com/dnaltews/status/15037578596065280
You'll still find some who believe it's merely a codec issue - that Google doesn't want to license the h264 codec, but the comments that people from Google have made indicate it's a hardware limitation.
If someone gets motivated enough you might see some sort of software workaround with lower FPS (ala the Nexus One), but so far that has not happened either.
Here's a fun one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865102
I just learned that CM7 doesn't have hardware acceleration? Is this true? If so, I have a few questions:
1. When will it be available in CM7?
2. If not, what ROM has hardware acceleration in it that I can flash right now? Preferably Gingerbread; I don't want to go back to Froyo unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks!
Where did you hear this? It DOES have hw acceleration.
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Where did you hear this? It DOES have hw acceleration.
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First, I tried playing some 720p videos on my phone, using Rockplayer. It says "cannot play this file using the system player". I can only play the files using the hardware decode set to OFF.
So I Googled, and came up with some hits that hardware decoding/acceleration did not make it to CM7. For instance, here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20404-720p-video-playback-on-cm7-stable/
Bump. I'd like to get some feedback/input on this please.
there is not a single android phone that uses hardware acceleration out there right now, except for the international version of the galaxy s. samsung was nice enough to give that phone a special update.
all other phones do not use hardware acceleration for anything like scrolling homescreens, lists, basically nothign. android 2.4 is supposedly adding in the APIs to now make hardware acceleration available.
note HTC may perhaps make certain custom apps hardware accelerated like a video playback app or something. but nothing else is ever hardware accelerated that i know of. so cyan 7 wont get it until android 2.4 is out
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there is not a single android phone that uses hardware acceleration out there right now, except for the international version of the galaxy s. samsung was nice enough to give that phone a special update.
all other phones do not use hardware acceleration for anything like scrolling homescreens, lists, basically nothign. android 2.4 is supposedly adding in the APIs to now make hardware acceleration available.
note HTC may perhaps make certain custom apps hardware accelerated like a video playback app or something. but nothing else is ever hardware accelerated that i know of. so cyan 7 wont get it until android 2.4 is out
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Won't using hardware acceleration save us battery and make our phones even smoother? It makes no sense not to use the capabilities the phone has!
ajm786 said:
Won't using hardware acceleration save us battery and make our phones even smoother? It makes no sense not to use the capabilities the phone has!
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Without a doubt. Its mind blowing that Google hasn't done this from the start. This has been debated by a Google employee (Ry guy I think?) And you can read thru the thread over on the Google support forums. Its a long known discussion in that thread.
i just want to know after update to gingerbread can infuse record video in 1080 resolution...
Nope.
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this is a myth that has been perpetuated by a rather unclear ad from samsung before the infuse was released. it simply said "1080p video" it did not say video recording but it should have specified it as playback. it also said "gingerbread" and "hdmi" when it should have said "gingerbread or hdmi" since att didn't get gingerbread and wont for probably atleast another month or 2, and because rogers didn't and wont get hdmi.
I read somewhere that if you replace some camera files of the gs2 to the infuse it will have 1080p (has to be gingerbread). Its just sad how Sammy restricts their devices to make their newer ones look better.
i also read somewhere infuse camera module is identical to s2,so technically it's possible.just need software support.
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i also read somewhere infuse camera module is identical to s2,so technically it's possible.just need software support.
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and hardware that can encode it that fast..
1080p isn't much for a sensor. it only amounts to 2mp so the sensor has never been the limiting factor in smartphone video. video encoding is hardware intensive and though i believe the infuse processor can do it i think it would mean background processes might have to be killed to do it.
Interesting. Out of curiosity, is there anyone here who has been able to record in 1080p even in a "testbed" situation?