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Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
K.D.M. said:
Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
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If you are already rooted and updating the ROM version, you will NOT loose root. As long as you keep with the custom built ROMs, you'll stay rooted.
If the ROM requires a wipe, then you will loose all your files. There are ROMs that are no-wipe, which allow you to upgrade to the newer version without having to reset your phone.
Kryo_genik said:
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
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Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
thanks for clearing this up...
akapoor said:
Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
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im not rooted now so its no big deal. however once it pushed ill just root it then and call it done.
I'm not 100% but I think everyone who did the OTA update to 2.2 are now finding that all the rooting tutorials are for 2.1 and cannot root until updated tutorials make their way out. With that said, I would root now while you're still on 2.1 and completely avoid your stock OTA 2.2 update. You'll be able to still update to 2.2 but it will be on a custom rom... win-win.
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A little off the op's post, but....
I have a motorola droid, just updated to the froyo 2.2 OTA. Rooted it easily with UniversalAndroot.apk.
i had rooted my galaxy S
and my device can't go into the download mode
because of the software/ hardware problem ( 3button can't use)
can i fresh a new rom without download mode?'
my rom is Eclair.dtjg4 now
i just got my inspire 4g and im coming for the darkside(iphone)....this is the first android ive owned , i love the phone....but i really dont care for all the crap that at&t has preloaded on it....so my question is wats the best way to uninstall all this crap? not sure if there is 1 app to do it or if i have to root or what....any help would be great.....
To get rid of ATT's bloatware, you will need to Root. There are a couple of stock Rooted ROMs that you can flash that have the bloat removed and HSUPA enabled, and there are also a bunch of custom ROMs that won't have this stuff either. There are 2 different ways you can go about rooting, either by using the attn1's Hack Kit or bubby323's HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF. Whichever way you choose, make sure you read a ton before you root. The process is a little involved, but if you understand what you're doing going into it it will be A LOT easier. I can root these things in about 15 minutes at this point
so which way would be the best for what i wanna do?.....im not real tech savy with android at this point, so i guess a stock rom will serve my purpose, or whats the advantage with going with a diffrent rom?
Its actually really easy once you do it the first time. There is ClearDroid, TCP, and Dilligaf roms.
As far as which one it is your choice, you can try them all if you want.
I just rooted for the first time last night using this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Just follow along with the video that is in the link and it's easy as pie.
I am using the ClearDroid ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996368
Stock ROM minus the bloat.
This is what worked for me, everyone is different.
1 more question...i see everyone talking about flashing the radio also so is this something i have to do if im going to install android rev. rom or do i not worry with the radio?? or is it like if i flash the rom i have to flash the radio as well?
sinner6975 said:
1 more question...i see everyone talking about flashing the radio also so is this something i have to do if im going to install android rev. rom or do i not worry with the radio?? or is it like if i flash the rom i have to flash the radio as well?
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You don't have to flash the radio. It is optional.
wow...that was fast already rooted my phone in about 30 minutes.....thanks guys for all the help now i just have to decide on which rom i wanna install on it
one last question after i used bubbys 1 click and im ready to flash my new rom(android rev.) its says i need the clockwork mod im guessing thats the same thing as the rom manager app i have on there now....so all i need to do is put the rom on my sd card then use rom manager to install it
sinner6975 said:
one last question after i used bubbys 1 click and im ready to flash my new rom(android rev.) its says i need the clockwork mod im guessing thats the same thing as the rom manager app i have on there now....so all i need to do is put the rom on my sd card then use rom manager to install it
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you use rom manager. open it up and click "flash custom recovery image" or something like that. (its the first button). if your going to flash a gignerbread rom then get the3.xxx version of clockwork. if a 2.2 rom then 2.xxx. but be careful, i hear after using bubbys method, you get black screens in clockwork. thats why i just used the hack kit
So I waited for the GB update and I like it but I think it is time to root this phone. I want to stress that I have had this phone since a little bit after it came out about two weeks after and it has run like a champ from day 1. No problems at all so when I updated to gb it was actually a downgrade in some ways like the camera but I definitly like gb because of the text editing but I havent noticed any improvement in battery life or speed or signal or GPS but All thouse things were great before and they are great now.
So I am running GB 2.3.3 withthe july 15 baseband and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I know it is different to root but I dont fully uinderstand it so if someone can post a detailed guide with as much explanation as possible so I understand what I am doing I would greatly appriciate it. I assume you cant get NV flasher from the market (I Havent looked) and what is cwm or cmw and if I flash a new rom will I loose the new baseband? Or can I get root permissions and keep stock GB? Tahnk you for all your help
First read the sticky at the top of the Android Development page. That sticky basically explains everything you will need to know, step by step.
In summary though....
Step 1 - NVFlash (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847)
Step 2 - Download Xboarders Rooted OTA.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748)
Step 3 - Boot into Clockwork Recovery
Step 4 - Install Zip from SD Card - the Zip you downloaded above
Voila you have rooted GB 2.3.3 with new baseband.
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
jabhome said:
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
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I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
pdxmatts said:
I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
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Did not try Xboarders tweaked, maybe I will give it a try.
Does swype work on that rom as phone just took a dump with swype beta. First reboot in over two months just now.
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
Follow the advice above. I flashed a rom for the first time today.
Does the Netflix app work on xboarder's rom? I'm having issues with HDMI on CM7 going out about every 5 minutes but coming right back. I really need the netflix app for travel.
+1 on xboarders. Runs smooth and has all of the stock features
Sent from my LG-P999
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
correct
mojorisin7178 said:
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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If you have the new baseband now no roms will change that.
The roms do not include the baseband .
mojorisin7178 said:
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
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I flash from my external SD Card. You just need to decide where you want to install from, and then make sure you set up NVFlash with the correct support, external or internal.
Not sure of the exact terminology, but I think the procedure itself would be called to NVFlash ClockworkMod. NVFlash is the procedure to install CWM, while CWM is the program that you will run via Volume Down + Power when you boot up. CWM 4.0.0.2 will boot up and from there you will be able to flash roms, backup and restore Nandroids.
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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CWM doesn't "contain" root permissions, it just allows you to flash any ROM into the phone, rooted or otherwise. The Xboarder ROM is pre-rooted, along with most of the others.
THANK YOU!
I too am a noob and was a little confused. I'd search the forums and come up with too much info. Plus, some terms used on this forum are slightly overloaded (in the C++ context) from the classic meanings, like "ROM" and "baseband". Those terms as used here do not mean exactly what they meant 20 years ago.
I'm sure I need to read more on app dev (but I have too many hobbies already), but I'm confused about the layers of s/w. As a noob, I would think the layers would be BIOS or maybe BSP, Linux, Android. So I don't understand:
1) where does the clockwork mod fit within the layers?
1a) nvdia nvflash installs new drivers in the Linux layer?
2) what is contained in the ROM image? A new version of Linux, andriod, nvdia drivers, baseband?
3) Is there a BIOS/BSP, or is all register access done in Linux drivers?
I'm not looking for a developers level answer to these questions, more of the readers digest version of the answers.
Since I'm having black screen of death (I believe referred to here as "SOD"), on two phones, I'd like to understand more, to figure out if this problem is h/w or s/w. I am definitely leaning towards s/w problems and my wife and I would love to keep these phones.
Thanks again.
-Bob
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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Continuing off of what Spyvie said, you do need to flash xboarder's rom to gain root, (more like repeating what he said). As for nvflash, this should make things a bit easier. tgagunman made a nice one click feature that if you follow the directions, should be easier to follow. You will get clockwork mod recovery, it will be nvflashed, but it's a lot easier for a non-techie to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I want to thank everyone who chimed in you guys have been really good to me Bob has some really good questions also and I hope this thread can help you out bob. That is why I started this thread for people like me who are really good with computers and like to mess around but don't quite understand phones. Every time something goes wrong with my PC I go to the forums and I fix it myself then I feel good. (And I have had some real disasters on my PC I have come back from)
Anyway I will be doing this procedure soon as I feel confident that I can do it and I see there is a fix for unbricking phones. One last question before I hit the green light: Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled? I suspect that since the ROM is pre-rooted that all I would have to do is format and install my original ROM then uninstall CWM is that on point or no? And Again THANKS TO ALL WHO CHIME IN WITH THE ANSWERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO CHIME IN WITH THERE QUESTIONS.
Charlie
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled?
Charlie
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You can restore you Nandroid of the preroot OTA, or you can unroot with the unroot zip that Xboarder provided in his link.
mojorisin7178 said:
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
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no, there is nothing else you need to do to your computer. The link provided by the brother above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847) is where you need to be. Skip the one click root and go straight to NV flash. It will guide you through installing the nvidia drivers you need. TGA_Gunnman has is laid out really nice and easy to follow and the program he put together (one click clm recovery nv flasher) is really simple to understand and use. he also has another post out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715) that is also helpfull. Once you get nv flash done make sure you copy the rom you want on your sd card. IMO Xboarders is very nice and smooth. You will hold down volume down and power together until you see the android screen. Then in the menu use vol keys to move to backup and restore and use power to select. Then move to yes and run the backup. then you can wipe data/factory restore. Then wipe cache. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvic and batt stats. Then go back to "choose zip from sd" and find your rom zip and select it. It will run for a while and tell you when its done, Then go to advanced again and fix permission. After that just go to reboot option and let it reboot. It may take a little longer the first time, just let it go. When it reboots you will have a rooted 2.3.3 with the new baseband you just updated to. After that go to the market and get Titanium Backup and run a backup of all your apps and data. From there your pretty much good to start flashing away. Have fun, Good luck
Hi im new here and i just got my Lg G2x two days ago, and it came with the gingerbread update already on it, and i want to know if i can go back to froyo 2.2 for what i know this device has never been rooted so, is there a way for me to go back to Froyo 2.2 having Gingerbread on the device???
daworship said:
Hi im new here and i just got my Lg G2x two days ago, and it came with the gingerbread update already on it, and i want to know if i can go back to froyo 2.2 for what i know this device has never been rooted so, is there a way for me to go back to Froyo 2.2 having Gingerbread on the device???
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You will have to have to follow these steps to get NVflash a recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 Then you can flash this from recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274 to go back to froyo. If you only want to go to froyo to get root you can follow the first link and NVflash recovery then flash one of the pre rooted roms in the development thread. If you want the pure stock vanilla then you can flash the stock recovery by following the same quide as the first link I posted.
I cant make it work :/
i did everything it says on the thread you send me, and it doesnt work i cant go back to froyo. :S
I think i just broke the phone =( it stays in blank rebooting it self F!(#(&!$#&($13 the screen is black with the light blinkin =( what can i do????
Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!
Get it from any RUU and flash via fastboot
but you'll need an RUU anyway as you need to 100% stock to use the ota
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
I'd do a Nandroid Backup of the stock rom. I think this is the easiest way to restore stock rom if you need.
Tester30 said:
Hi, all.
Want to prepare for ICS update....
It been a long time since I messed with the phone 9 month or so....LOL
Have S-OFF, CWM, rooted, but still on stock ROM, since I use my HD2.
I remember seeing somewhere a thread with instruction on how to switch back to stock recovery.... one of the requirements of flushing ICS OTA.
Now I searched everywhere and can't find it....
Would you be so kind to point me to it?
Thanks in advance!
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Shoot throw me in the same boot! I tried reading mikes guide for updating and I think its probably 100x simpler just doing the OTA and calling it a day. I'm not sure how much I'll personally be going back to this phone as I've crossed over to the SGSII now but seeing how HTC is putting out that limiting "one" phone I suspect this will be my last HTC phone for awhile.
I'm not dissing mikes ARHD rom either but I'm looking for the simplest of simplest instructions (other than OTA) like:
1. D/L (only) this one file/ROM and CWM/4EXT and flash.
2. ???
3. Profit.