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Rooting, Flashing, Backing up And Installing New Boot Loader

Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks

i'm new to all of this too but ill try to answer some questions. Although, I think this thread should NOT be in development and should be in general. I personally have read through a lot of threads to get the answers that I was seeking for.
As far as backup goes, I think its possible through Odin via dump option? don't quote me on that, I have not had to do that before, nor have I read up on it. bootloader as far as i see, i did not need it.
there is a thread in here with virgin rom request, LOOK for it.
There is NO compiled list of apps that you can or cannot delete, but if you read, there is a dl for BLOATWARE, use that as a template to what you want deleted.
Right now, ODIN is the only way that you can flash your phone, and use the two roms listed in this development thread.
From what i read a deodexed rom just helps with file system and structure. I think?
you will always be able to go back to stock, if you have the virgin rom.
Imo, you should read up/skim through every thread in here to see what is available, problems people are having and the fixes for them. I know there is alot of information in here and it maybe overwhelming, but there were 172 views of this thread without any replies because us noobs need to READ/SEARCH. Thats the answers we'll get if we continue to make new threads. Just fyi if your new to forums.

Moved as not android development.

As newbie you should first read and use search
then if you dont see question you want, you just ask it
And about Roms , well i tried that deox v2.2 and didnt like it , switched to stock with removed bloat and love it more but thats for different thread

Well thanks for you answers and I do apologize for posting this here. I didn't know. I think i will go with what you have done. Stock ROM without bloatware. Did you flash the Stock ROM from this forum? or did you just deleted the apps one by one?
I will do the fota fix as well.

moshe22 said:
Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
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ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.

ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
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Thanks man! Really helpful. I will read into these threads and probably will wait for the clockwork to work for SGS4G.
I really don't see the advantage of flashing to Deodexed. Maybe i'm missing something?

[Q] Rom/kernel installing

Just rooted my captivate which was recently upgraded to Froyo through the official Att release. I'm an exteme rookie when it comes to all this, so I'm looking for some help. I want to install a new rom/kernel. Done some research and I'm thinking of trying Cog4. As I said, I'm rooted, I have titanium backup and rom manager. I'm using one click lag fix, which from my research, everyone says is useless, and that voodoo is the way to go. So the question is, where can I get step by step instructions on the easiest way to load the new rom. Can anyone suggest a better rom? What ever your answer is, remember to dumb it down. I'm a chef not a computer guy. Much thanks for the help. I'm loving learning about all this.

Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
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wonner said:
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk
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Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!

I did my first rom flash last week and chose Firefly due to reliability and smoothness. I read all of the threads about each of the roms for several months and read how people liked them plus features each offered. It will really come down to what you want/need in a rom. Besides using xda, I googled flashing roms for captivate and found many videos, etc. that helped guide me along the way. I watched countless hours to make sure I understood not only one way but many to install a rom. Just remember, save your data before you do anything else. Use titanium backup. It is great. Don't assume everything will go okay.
If you are running 2.2 Froyo stock you probably will have to understand how 3E works. If you don't know what this is, search for it on these forums! You have to change this setting before flashing a rom. Good luck!

mrhaley30705 said:
Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!
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I meant to say UNINSTALLING, not install ext2 tools. Sorry for goof.

froyo has 3e recovery.... ugh... again with this today... good thing i bookmarked it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
you researched OCLF and other stuff correctly so ill help you.
from stock
root / ( & allow non-market apps via oneClickRoot 1.8 if you need to sideload tibu or rootexplorer.)
fix 3e recovery (root explorer method best)
no OCLF.
tibu backup user apps and green system files (green ones ok between different roms)
copy your new rom.zip to sdcard root renamed UPDATE.zip
boot into stock recovery > reinstall package!
tibu restore all
done!
your new rom will have a kernel with CWM built in. no need for rom manager or the CWM update.zip just to flash the rom. rom zips now do a wipe as well.

If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?

I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.

studacris said:
If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?
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If you guys boycott, I will add in some posts then so I can get my count up!

megatronisabeast said:
I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.
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congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.

Here is the method I used to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
It didn't require a fix for 3E since I wasn't flashing a rom but it was painless. I did a lot of research and found the way I thought would be easiest for me to root and flash a rom. The great thing is there are many ways to do it so you really have to not be looking to get one that doesn't work.
Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Kinda the same idea here , but I use kernel flasher (i know some say it's a bad thing, but I've never had a problem that wasn't because of my own stupidity).

The only reason I don't use Root explorer or other ones like it is because I only have one phone and can't afford to really mess something up. I play around with Linux on some of my computers but I have more than one and the one I practice code on is a play computer. I think it is good to learn at least some of the coding but for an inexperienced flasher they should either wait until they learn code then flash or use an easier method if they are dead set on rooting and romming their phone.

Can you root the g2x yet with 2.3.3¿

I wanted to know if there is a way to root it yet?
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Answered many times please search...

I believe you can, but you can't use a one click root method. Everybody still says it's easy to do, but I don't quite get it. I'm not an idiot, but I just don't understand some of the stuff they say to do. Apparantly you have to "install nvflasher through clockworkmod". I see where I can download clockworkmod, but it's just a bunch of DLL files and an exe I think. Then I saw something about installing drivers and they lost me. My only guess was the drivers it installs when you plug your phone into your computer via the usb port? I don't know. Anyway, after installing the nvflasher, I guess you can just flash roms. I don't quite understand how to do that either though, lol.

Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.

Mister Hat said:
Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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This.
All the instructions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 thanks to TGA_Gunnman. I understand a lot of us are new to rooting/flashing but there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.

what I don't get is what to do if you only have a mac.

You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/

blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Are you saying this method works on the stock Gingerbread rom? I thought SOC didn't work with GB on the G2x.

blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Just a heads up...I don't think this will work. Unless SOC updated to a new version. Just search the forums use this "how to root after OTA " I recommend NVFLash CWM then if you want 2.3.3 rooted search "stock OTA rooted." Posted by xboarder. Or use a custom rom. This has been asked to many times. Yes it is possible to root some other way. That to is covered by xboarder also. Unless SOC has a new version out with in the last week it wont Work.....read post 4665. But I do have great news......the search options in the forums do work and even Google searches will direct you to xda. If you find a post about something read all of it. Then read the OP(opening post) 3 to 4 time looking at dates and change logs..
So to recap
1) SOC will not work. NVFlash clockwork.
2) use the search/Google.
3) if you read this and did not see xboarders name at least once befor this post, reread.
4) read and reread.....keep reading....the answers are posted.
5) read the OP. Look at dates and change logs.
If you don't like my response to this post go buy an iPhone. The rest of us are sick of seeing the same questions. That is all

androidicus said:
there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
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Well said.

I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.

touge_ninja said:
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
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Yeah, I might look at it again and give it a try later on. There's still a few things i'm confused about though.
I didn't know you could flash roms without rooting first. But I guess flashing a rooted rom technically does root your phone? It's just a different way of achieving root? Also, if you are gonna flash roms, I thought you had to do the nvflash routine.. which would root your phone anyway.. lol.

I believe some cases that could be true. Root could be needed to install a flash recovery. Our phone use nvidia. The nvflash utility makes it easy. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. When you nvflash you are replacing the factor/stock recovery with CWM. At that point you could put any Rom you like. I kind of see it like a boot disk. Root allows you to see system folders and such. Kind of like having admin rites on your computers operating system. Root also aloes programs to modify system information. To compare this to the common computer root is like an admin account in windows. Unroot is like a user account that companies give you on their computer. CWM is like having a boot disk. I hope I cleared that up for some one.
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rooting
so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great

brannondean09 said:
so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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Hey I know u mean well but I would first ask doniqcc since it is his rom ya know

Root first?
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?

pioneers2001 said:
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
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Yes and no, in that order. You can use nvflash to replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, such as clockworkmod recovery. Using custom recovery, you can flash any rom that's compatible with the phone. Most of the roms have superuser privileges (root) built into them.

Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)

brannondean09 said:
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
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Huh? The info has been on this board for weeks how to do that already.

Thanks for the help everyone, I get it now!
Hey everyone, I just want to let you all know that I was able to do the NVFlash, backup everything, and install CM7.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK I WAS WORRIED ABOUT!!!! It was so incredibly easy.
CM7 is installed, however I'm having issues with my APN now working and losing its information, I've posted for help on that in another thread.
Thanks again, and to those out there who worry like I did...have no fear....CWM is a neat tool, ESPECIALLY for backup of your entire phone.
Thanks.
John

G2x 2.3.3 root question

Hi,
I dont know if am being really stupid or not but this is my first android device and first time rooting.( i have searched for hours now trying to find an answer)
So i am trying to root my Lg G2x running GB 2.3.3 using this link :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
so as of now i am on Step 2...what i dont get is when i click the link on step 2 it says to download ALL of these NVIDIA drivers and everything. All i did was downlooad the One Click CWM
Another thing this link does is send me to ANOTHER link saying that you have to ROOT first?
So from my previous knowledge i thought you could only "flash" the CWM if you were already root ( or maybe thats only for the ROMs)
alright then if thats the case...the directions of the original link just says to download and unzip...but do i put that root folder onto my phone(i read this from another link that someone else posted about)..The reason i am asking this question is because when i tried to go to Step 3 it said to Hold Volume and Power to boot CWM but nothing happened obivously bc 1. the directions say to plug the phone into computer at like step5 and 2. the files are on the computer
So in conclusion i guess i am just trying to make sure that i dont brick my phone by asking these lame questions
1. do i have to take those unzipped files and put them onto my Phone( more specifally, my sd card or phone?)
2. What about for the CWM download.. do i just download the One Click thing and ignore the other directions??

You have to do the one click thing first to install Clockwordmod with NVFlash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Then you boot into Clockwordmod Recovery and run my booting zip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214
In that thread just download the root zip and put it on your sd card or in the internal memory of your phone. Flash the CWM recovery and then boot into Clockworkmod Recovery by holding down volume down and power until fancy LG logo shows (about ten to fifteen seconds). Find the menu option to flash a zip from sd card or internal memory (wherever you put my rooting zip). Select it, flash it and reboot when finished.
Presto. Done. You are now rooted.

THANK YOU!!!
I GOT IT YAY i AM ROOTEd
i was just overreading and kept reading every word on the posts lol when all i had to do was follow the APX driver installation, FLASH the cWM , and then BOOT IT!!!
THANK YOU!!!!

bball123 said:
THANK YOU!!!
I GOT IT YAY i AM ROOTEd
i was just overreading and kept reading every word on the posts lol when all i had to do was follow the APX driver installation, FLASH the cWM , and then BOOT IT!!!
THANK YOU!!!!
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Flashing CWM and rebooting does not root your phone. You have to flash the root zip also, or flash a rooted rom.

Ok i am completly lost trying to root my g2x. I'v tried downloading the flasher yet nothing. I just need a step by step on doing this. Thanks!!

jaypro954 said:
Ok i am completly lost trying to root my g2x. I'v tried downloading the flasher yet nothing. I just need a step by step on doing this. Thanks!!
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The original thread for the one-click flasher in the development section is one of the best step by step posts ever made on XDA. It even has a link for a video tutorial. If you cannot follow that then I suggest you stop trying to root your phone. There is no reason for anyone to make another step by step guide. To find the thread try the search button. There are also links to it in numerous other threads.

Are their roms on here that are bug free and stable for daily drivers?
Im coming over here from a HD2 which is not a native android phone. And I didnt mind the bugs in android.
But now I have a g2x and it is bug free though I really wish it had 2.3.5 but oh well this phone is still bad ass.
So what im wondering if I should just root to keep it stock and do lil mods or flash the whole cwm Process so I have a back up. If I ever need it.
Thanks in advance.

tdizzle404 said:
Are their roms on here that are bug free and stable for daily drivers?
Im coming over here from a HD2 which is not a native android phone. And I didnt mind the bugs in android.
But now I have a g2x and it is bug free though I really wish it had 2.3.5 but oh well this phone is still bad ass.
So what im wondering if I should just root to keep it stock and do lil mods or flash the whole cwm Process so I have a back up. If I ever need it.
Thanks in advance.
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I've kept mine stock for that reason, but I did root it. After experiencing custom roms on my Nexus One, A71 variant and others, I would have to say the frustrations stuff being perpetually broken, bugs and the monotony of daily flashing (CM7 just never stops) whatever small benefits the custom roms have (i.e., eye candy, additional settings, etc.) is just not worth the frustration and danger of soft-bricking the phone (I have hard bricked one also) to me. My Nexus One (gave one to wife when I got the G2X but then got another one at a steal) has gone through updates to 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 (yesterday). These updates seem to be mostly internal fixes for stuff. The average user (or even advanced) is not going to notice any difference in using the rom. The only exception to that is that in 2.3.4 Google removed the need to log back into your Gmail account(s) after changing sims. They said that was a minor benefit at a greater annoyance and the "feature" most complained about by world travelers. Other than that the Google apps get updated and even 2.2 devices are basically running the same Google apps as 2.3.X. So based on what you said above, I would suggest keeping it stock and simply rooting it. You definitely want to change recovery to Clockworkmod to make backups and the fact that going into stock recovery on this device does a factory reset (how stupid was that LG).

jboxer said:
I've kept mine stock for that reason, but I did root it. After experiencing custom roms on my Nexus One, A71 variant and others, I would have to say the frustrations stuff being perpetually broken, bugs and the monotony of daily flashing (CM7 just never stops) whatever small benefits the custom roms have (i.e., eye candy, additional settings, etc.) is just not worth the frustration and danger of soft-bricking the phone (I have hard bricked one also) to me. My Nexus One (gave one to wife when I got the G2X but then got another one at a steal) has gone through updates to 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 (yesterday). These updates seem to be mostly internal fixes for stuff. The average user (or even advanced) is not going to notice any difference in using the rom. The only exception to that is that in 2.3.4 Google removed the need to log back into your Gmail account(s) after changing sims. They said that was a minor benefit at a greater annoyance and the "feature" most complained about by world travelers. Other than that the Google apps get updated and even 2.2 devices are basically running the same Google apps as 2.3.X. So based on what you said above, I would suggest keeping it stock and simply rooting it. You definitely want to change recovery to Clockworkmod to make backups and the fact that going into stock recovery on this device does a factory reset (how stupid was that LG).
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Thanks J you have been very helpful in my transition from hd2 to g2x"im still flashing hd2 I love playing with sense 3.0 and 3.5" But this phone is amazing. Ive rooted it and added cwm but have not flashed any cutom rome I like stability over newest features.
Is 2.3.3 the most recent update for our Phones?

Yes and we're darn lucky we have 2.3.3. No other 2X variant worldwide has received any update love from LG. They are all still on 2.2.x. Lawsuit in U.S. seems to be what forced LG into releasing the G2X GB update.
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Hey J
If this is the wrong place to ask please pm me but, would you mind letting me know what tweaks you have done "if any" you have done to your stock rom?

[Q] questions about I727UCALC4 att update

ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....

garydv2002 said:
ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....
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You should use the search function of the forum. All of the questions you asked have been discussed many times and I find it hard to believe that you looked because many of the questions you asked are stickied or are still on the first page. I'm telling you this because there is a lot of information to cover on your questions (many of them could possibly have several different answers) and the easiest way for you to get all of the information you need is to look at what people have already said and done. There is even a "One Stop Shop ICS" thread that is stickied in the DEV section. Nope, I can't believe you even tried...but good luck and read as much as you can. Short-cuts will only get you a bricked phone.

well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks

ok i found the all things ics forum you were talking about so im gonna read all that info and if i still have any questions ill come back and ask. if anyone has any links to info they feel might help feel free to post them. also if you know of any better ics roms than this leaked one for the skyrocket feel free to post links on those. thanks for pointing me in the right direction now maybe i can find enough info to make up my mind on whether to flash this rom or wait for a better one or the official release.. thanks again...

garydv2002 said:
well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218
Start from the top and work your way down. If you have an I727 I would definately only research ICS on the I727 and not any other phone. As you said, they are different. You will also find that there are no 100% answers on a lot of your questions. What works on one phone might act a little different on another. That is why it is better to read and be prepared...just in case.

cwm
will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update

garydv2002 said:
will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update
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If you use the "Odin" version (One click Odin with the ICS leak) you will need to put cwm back on your phone via Odin. If you use cwm to install one of the custom ROMS you will retain cwm. Directions on how to put cwm back on your phone can be found in the "DEV" section. If you use the ODIN method you will need to re-root anyway, I prefer Copperhed's method...again, found in the "DEV" section. Good luck.

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well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...

garydv2002 said:
well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...
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Do not try to flash TAR files through CWM. Only ZIP files (approved for flashing with cwm) can be flashed via CWM. TAR files are for ODIN. I suggest you learn more about the differences before trying anything. There are very direct and clear directions for all of this in the different XDA skyrocket sections (mostly in the "DEV" section). Do yourself a favor and take a week or two to do some reading and learning. Good luck.

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from all the reading i been doing all day from the everything ics forum its best to flash the odin one click first then flash cwm again and install your choice of custom roms [zip files] since im on gingerbread now. something with the modem and radio is giving alot of problems unless you flash the odin one click first. im gonna take your advice and do alot more reading before i decide. i had a captivate before i got the skyrocket and flashed many different versions thru odin on it but have never flashed a rom with cwm before. so odin or heimdall is not new too me just cwm. but now that i found out about cwm and the way it can backup roms ill never be without it again. its kinda like having life insurance it there if i screw up lol.. thanks for helping me and if i run across anything else im not sure about ill ask cause its better to ask than to mess it all up... ill let you know what i decide and how it turns out... thanks again

Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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garydv2002 said:
Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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You are moving in the right direction. Your next stop is "ROM flashing addiction"...enjoy (LOL).

What is your favorite ics rom? Include a link so I can check it out..
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