General root question - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks

I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push

K.D.M. said:
Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
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If you are already rooted and updating the ROM version, you will NOT loose root. As long as you keep with the custom built ROMs, you'll stay rooted.
If the ROM requires a wipe, then you will loose all your files. There are ROMs that are no-wipe, which allow you to upgrade to the newer version without having to reset your phone.

Kryo_genik said:
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
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Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.

thanks for clearing this up...

akapoor said:
Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
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im not rooted now so its no big deal. however once it pushed ill just root it then and call it done.

I'm not 100% but I think everyone who did the OTA update to 2.2 are now finding that all the rooting tutorials are for 2.1 and cannot root until updated tutorials make their way out. With that said, I would root now while you're still on 2.1 and completely avoid your stock OTA 2.2 update. You'll be able to still update to 2.2 but it will be on a custom rom... win-win.
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A little off the op's post, but....
I have a motorola droid, just updated to the froyo 2.2 OTA. Rooted it easily with UniversalAndroot.apk.

i had rooted my galaxy S
and my device can't go into the download mode
because of the software/ hardware problem ( 3button can't use)
can i fresh a new rom without download mode?'
my rom is Eclair.dtjg4 now

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Unrooting the mytouch 3g...

Good afternoon, everyone. I just had my phone rooted with the Hero ROM and it is very laggy and it cripples the whole experience. Is there anyway that I can unroot my phone to where I'll have the stock Android v1.6 and still get OTA updates (I'm on T-Mobile USA)? If this is possible, can someone direct me as to how to get this done w/o paying for someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance,
xxplosive1984
xxplosive1984 said:
Good afternoon, everyone. I just had my phone rooted with the Hero ROM and it is very laggy and it cripples the whole experience. Is there anyway that I can unroot my phone to where I'll have the stock Android v1.6 and still get OTA updates (I'm on T-Mobile USA)? If this is possible, can someone direct me as to how to get this done w/o paying for someone to do it for me?
Thanks in advance,
xxplosive1984
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If you have modified recovery (by Amon_RA or Cyanogen) - no need to get unrooted. You can simply flash other ROMs (except official - they sucks)
All the info you'll need is in the first post of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547133
I was able to unroot my mytouch and receive the ota update for 1.6...but I turned around and rooted it again because I realized the stock kinda sucks. If you follow the instructions, this will get you back on the stock 1.5. If you don't receive the ota update to 1.6 right away, you can use google to find the stand alone update pretty easily. I think I ended up finding it on the tmobile forums.
Thanks, fellas! I appreciate it. It should be fun to see if I can do this by myself
Last question, what is a goldcard? is it essential to have one in order to get the stock ROM back?
xxplosive1984 said:
Last question, what is a goldcard? is it essential to have one in order to get the stock ROM back?
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a goldcard is a spare sd card that has been modded to allow the unlocking of phones, usually you do it with windows mobile phones, but you dont have to for the mytouch/magic, you can just One-Click root it if you are still on cupcake.
what i am trying to say is, you dont really need it to get back to stock rom (unroot) you just need to flash a few files from my understanding...i have never wanted to unroot so i wouldnt know but if you need a tutorial, i can give you the link for a perfect one.
I used theunlockr(dot)com to unroot. They have a video and text guide.

[Q] Root Question

ok so i rooted my EVO, and i know that Gingerbread is soon to release. My question is since my EVO is rooted how do i install 2.3 OTA when it comes out. Like how should i do it so that my phone doesnt get messed up. what are the steps to have 2.3 and root. And i do not want to use Roms.
subedarkid said:
ok so i rooted my EVO, and i know that Gingerbread is soon to release. My question is since my EVO is rooted how do i install 2.3 OTA when it comes out. Like how should i do it so that my phone doesnt get messed up. what are the steps to have 2.3 and root. And i do not want to use Roms.
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Or do i need to Unroot then install 2.3

[Q] Nexus One OTA Question

Hello guys,
I have a stock Nexus One that received two updates, the first one was 2.2 which updated since the first boot, and the second one is the 2.2.1 (FRG83D). Now Google started the 2.3 OTA roll out (see http://bit.ly/hUlpUy) but I didn't get yet the 2.2.2 update yet. Will my phone accept the 2.3 one even if I didn't update to 2.2.2 yet?
Thanks in advance!
Was your phone bought directly from Google or through a carrier? The only phones that i know of that haven't received 2.2.2 yet are the ones tied to carriers like Vodafone, and if that is the case you'd have a long wait to receive 2.3.3 anyway.
Well yes. I bought it from Vodafone Italy. I understand, but it would update anyways right? Even if I would wait a little longer I mean? And will it have to update first to 2.2.2 or it just can jump to 2.3.3?
Thanks for your response.
And by the way it is not locked to vodafone (branded). It's unlocked.
Type *#*#checkin#*#* into the dialer. Your phone will then force check for the update.
More info here
Yeah I do this every now and then
I also have the Nexus One which in the end came from Vodafone! (However much i regret this now) So I am also still on 2.2.1 waiting for Vodafone to still push 2.2.2!
I have attempted to flash 2.2.2 to my phone using ClockWorkMod etc but that didn't work out and it ended up just looping the Nexus logo on startup so had to recover it all, I attempted that a few times as well but with no luck! So in the end I still have the carrier version of stock android!
I'm hoping that someone on here manages to source the Nexus One 2.3.3 OTA file from the Google servers and can whack up some instructions on how we can flash that over because I'm sick of waiting on Vodafone! Will it be possible for me to go from 2.2.1 straight to 2.3.3? Or do I have to get 2.2.2?
I don't think anyone has received the Nexus One 2.3.3 OTA yet so whether Google have actually put it up for release yet is another thing!
The OTA is not pushed by Vodafone. I've bought my N1 from Italy (vodafone) and I use it in Egypt, and I could receive all the previous OTAs without any issue. Now my question was simple. Do I have to update to the versions before 2.3.3 or it can just update from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3? (note there are 3 versions in the middle).
Thanks.
You guys have lots of options and should really come post in the Nexus One section of the forum.
If you are on Vodafone firmware phones, and hitting up *#*#checkin#*#* daily, then you are going to wear out your device before Voda actually gets around to releasing the OTA!
I imagine that Voda will either OTA 2.2.2 sometime and then 2.3.3 later, or will skip 2.2.2 and find a way to roll it into the 2.3.3 update later. There's also the possibility that they never intend to update the Nexus One again. After all there's not much profit in it for them as Nexus users make up a tiny percentage of their customers. My advice would be to go custom.
Options include Rooting and flashing a stock, non-voda firmware, which fails for a lot of people (including me), or flashing a custom/stock 2.2.2 (which worked for me) which will then allow future OTA direct from Google, or go the custom route and flash a CM7 ROM so that you never have to worry about OTA again
Thanks DirkGently1 for the info. I would like to do the same thing you did with your phone (flashing a stock 2.2.2) so I could get OTAs directly from google?
Thanks in advance!
I would also like to receive my OTA's from Google, I have attempted the flashing of a stock 2.2.2 ROM which is what failed for me, maybe this is the same non vodafone firmware you've just mentioned which didn't work for you?
Any instructions and files as to how you managed to flash yours to 2.2.2 to get updates from Google?
tomrobbo26 said:
I would also like to receive my OTA's from Google, I have attempted the flashing of a stock 2.2.2 ROM which is what failed for me, maybe this is the same non vodafone firmware you've just mentioned which didn't work for you?
Any instructions and files as to how you managed to flash yours to 2.2.2 to get updates from Google?
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All the usual stock ROM/passimg.zip methods failed for me. Either installing the OTA to get updated to the most recent build, or updating manually, would fail. So i used THIS ROM which is a stock, rooted, 2.2.2 that will be able to receive OTA direct from Google.
If you can't install that for some reason then you probably can't install any ROM using the normal methods. In that case your only option would be to unlock your Bootloader and use Fastboot. HTC always seems to honour warranties regardless so i wouldn't let that worry you.
I guess I'll have to root my 2.2.1 Rom before being able to flash it with the rom you suggested...
I can't root it!!
omarfouad said:
I can't root it!!
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What method did you try? For me SuperOneClick works like a champ as long as 1) Your device drivers are installed properly on your pc* and 2) You enable USB Debugging and then turn off the phone/plug in to pc/start SOC and select 'Root'/Turn phone back on when you see the 'waiting for device..' prompt/wait until completed.
*Nexus one driver pack can be found around here somewhere. I believe they came from the SDK.
The wiki is a great source of N1 info... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746544
My version is 2.2.1. Is there something that can root it yet?
omarfouad said:
My version is 2.2.1. Is there something that can root it yet?
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Yes, SOC as mentioned above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682

I have a Evo 4g with 2.2, Whats the best/easiest way to root?

I've just recently registered but have been lurking for a while and doing a lot of reading. I've seen there are a bunch of different options for rooting a evo. Also seems like there's a lot of out dated ways to root as well. I'm still new to this and have some questions. Looking to have full root access. As far as I understand it, I will need to run a rom after rooting the device? Will I still be able to receive sprint updates as need once I root? My main reasons for rooting is for the wifi teether, maybe overclocking to speed it up a little bit and to remove the factory sprint apps. I did have a friend tell me that once his buddy rooted his evo he noticed his battery life was a lot better. Anyone experience that? What other info do I need to provide you? Thanks
Update: Was running 2.2 froyo till my phone just did the 2.3 gingerbread update and now my internet doesn't work. Is there any way to root now or am I screwed and have to deal with sprint?
You don't need to flash a rom after rooting but you definitely can. As far as updating, I'm not 100% sure about sprint, but I think you need to be stock to receive an OTA update. For rooting your device, use unrevoked, its an incredibly simple one click root program.
Unrevoked is the quick and easy way to root. Once rooted you WILL NOT get Sprint updates. If you get your 2.3 Sprint update and apply it you WON'T be able to root.
You can run stock 2.2 Android with Sense rooted and not load any ROMs. I do not know if you'll be able to wifi tether by only being rooted. I do know that there are several ROMs that have Android 2.3 Gingerbread and have wifi tether working so if you do root your 2.2 install Amon_Ra recovery then flash Cyanogen Mod 7. Instructions are on his Wiki which I can't post a link to since I'm new forum user here.
k_nivesout said:
You don't need to flash a rom after rooting but you definitely can. As far as updating, I'm not 100% sure about sprint, but I think you need to be stock to receive an OTA update. For rooting your device, use unrevoked, its an incredibly simple one click root program.
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Should I even worry about the OTA updates then?

Noob alert - Help with customizing

Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
You are going to have to look at the temp root thread that is right here in this forum since she is on the newest update. You are kind of limited to what you can do unless a permanent root solution is found. Wireless tether should work. I think you may be able to remove or freeze the bloat using somethin like titanium but it will probably come back when you reboot. Can't use any custom roms yet either...
crawrj said:
Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
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The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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strapped365 said:
The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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crawrj said:
Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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Flashing clockworkMod while temp rooted isn't going to work, as soon as your phone tries to reboot you lose root. So you can't access Clockwork, which is how/where you flash ROMs. Currently there is no way to revert back to froyo, the new bootloaders do not recognize the froyo RUU. Basically until a perm root solution is found, temp root is the best you can do.
The ROMs that you see are for user that rooted while running froyo and never took the "official" update from HTC.
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
VICODAN said:
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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He said brand new so that means it came with 2.3.3
OK I will wait patiently until perma root has been established. Thank you all for all of the information.

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