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From the Droid X results and benchmark it seems that Froyo did not do to the Droid X as it did for all the phones that are running snapdragons.
Some people are saying that it's because the JIT was made to run on a snapdragon.
So what is up with the benchmarks? Are we not going to see our CPU speeds increase 3 to 5 folds? Is anyone else curious about this topic?
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i went from linpack for max 9.6 with oc kernal on 2.1 plus voodoo lag fix to 13.9 on froyo, no lag fix etc. so i say its faster.
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i went from linpack for max 9.6 with oc kernal on 2.1 plus voodoo lag fix to 13.9 on froyo, no lag fix etc. so i say its faster.
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Yeah, but how do we score in the 40s and 60s? I hope our ROM authors do a better job than Samsung has.
The Droid X hasn't even been optimized yet, for some reason 2.2 isn't doing what it did to the Nexus one for Droid X and Galaxy.
Voice Search is pretty sweet: "text jenny hey what's up?"... bam, done.
Flash support is neat for certain websites.
Auto-updating apps...
There is alot to froyo than just a speed improvement (although we wish it was more of a speed improvement...)
With JI6(Froyo), OCLF(Lagfix), and rooted I'm pretty much as happy as I can be until cyanogenmod comes out.
I know benchmarks are useless, but the quadrant score I got more than doubled the stock 2.1 score at around 1900.
I haven't played around enough yet to notice any bugs, but nothing significant has jumped out at me. USB tethering and Mobile AP both work.
NO issues here...I don;t use synthetic benchmarks wither in ,my PC builds or on these devices. I go strictly by real word applications. In that regard the user experience shell and speed is better on all counts. GPS showed me 10 Sats today. I never could see more than 6-8 on the best day.
The user interface is 10X better..........
Haha oh yeah, I really want to find out if the Leak (Beta) update is really worth it, just seriously might wait for the actual update. I read in the thread that some people were reporting a CPU clock of 400 Mhz, and just bugs, which "should" be fixed by the actual update
I was really hoping that our CPUs would boost 3 to 5 times as much.
The snapdragons with 2.2 have unbelievable to near incredible results. Their CPU benchmarks have more than triples in most cases.
I'm just really trying to get to the bottom of why the Hummingbird and OMAP seem to lack this potential.
Well it's still just a leak. Hopefully the full Froyo update will roll out at the end of October. A post on the Androidforums has me thinking that end of October is when it will be released.
Regarding the Samsung Dock:
If you search really hard on the Samsung site, you find that that 3.5mm jack is "line out" and won't be functional until the Android 2.2 release.
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And from looking around for the dock, I found two sites that have it for pre-order with estimated availability towards the end of October.
As a former Nexus one owner, I can honestly say that the froyo benchmarks are in no way indicative of real world performance. My linpack went from 7 to 40 and I saw exactly zero speed up in real world daily use. There very few fringe apps that see any increase, mainly games and only a select few of those.
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I had another experience. The performance boost FroYo gave me in Nexus One was very noticeable in "real world" situation.
However, I do fail to see that ratio on Captivate.
Linpack score: 14.031
Froyo be damned, the improvements in the Samsung version of it make it more than worth it.
Now that Gingerbread has been written by google for a Galaxy S phone that is very similar in specs to the Galaxy S line, will it be fully optimized?
Will we see big jumps in benchmarks like the Nexus One did when it received Froyo? Is the reason why the Nexus One and its variants received a big benchmark boost was because Android wrote Froyo for it?
I dont think 2.3 will come to captivate....And also, would the GPS been fixed??? Im going to sell my captivate and buy some HTC....
That is ridiculous situation...we are a several months waiting for 2.2 and so far nothing...We are several months waiting for some GPS fix...and so far nothing yet....
AT&T does not care about the customers if they are confortable with the 2.1 only or not....Neither Samsung....WE ARE LOST....hurt me to say that...
But thats how i feel...IM FEEL LIKE A FOOL...
sorry, dont get me wrong....
I doubt with Samsung's record of slow updates and bug fixes we'll ever see an official port of Gingerbread to the Galaxy S. Custom ROM's much more likely but I guess they will be a while.
As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
Fizzig said:
I doubt with Samsung's record of slow updates and bug fixes we'll ever see an official port of Gingerbread to the Galaxy S. Custom ROM's much more likely but I guess they will be a while.
As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
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Quadrant is a poor indicator of overall performance, which is why an ext2-loopback lagfixed rom will show astronomical scores (2300+) in Quadrant - because it is essentially telling quadrant exactly what it wants to hear. The score is artificial and doesn't reflect how the device will actually perform (not to imply that the lagfixes don't make the phone more responsive or anything, simply making the point that quadrant is a poor benchmark).
The differences you'll see between 2.1 and 2.2 are an increase in processing power and battery life due to the JIT. It's a bit difficult to test this due to outside battery-eating variables (things syncing over the network in the background, quality of reception and radio power levels, etc.), so your ability to notice a difference may vary depending on your phone usage style and environment.
Also, you can use linpack to get an idea of the processing power increase. You'll notice that it doubles between 2.1->2.2. I should warn you that it's not really comparable to the Nexus One, simply because the cpu architecture is different and linpack is geared to take advantage of it - the n1's snapdragon has a 128bit simd fpu whereas the hummingbird has a 64bit fpu, so the increase in speed will show up as 4x-5x for the n1 between 2.1->2.2. Again, this does not translate into a 4x increase in real world performance. I only mentioned linpack to demonstrate the relative speed increase between stock 2.1 for the galaxy S and 2.2, and to show that the JIT is indeed boosting the processing speed.
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Now that Gingerbread has been written by google for a Galaxy S phone that is very similar in specs to the Galaxy S line, will it be fully optimized?
Will we see big jumps in benchmarks like the Nexus One did when it received Froyo? Is the reason why the Nexus One and its variants received a big benchmark boost was because Android wrote Froyo for it?
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To my understanding, 2.3 is essentially a more optimized 2.2. I doubt that the results of the optimizations will be as large as the introduction of the JIT was in 2.2, but every little bit helps - and look on the bright side, it won't be any slower than 2.2.
I don't think we'll really know how well the Nexus S roms will run on our phones or how easy they'll be to port over until we actually get our hands on an NS rom (still don't know what filesystem it uses or how big of an obstacle the filesystem will present). However, since the fundamental architecture is so similar, I don't really expect many problems and I expect the 2.3 builds to run great.
Edit: I don't expect Samsung or ATT to release 2.3 for our phones. I actually wouldn't be surprised if ATT refused a gingerbread update for our captivates, even if Samsung offered it. What I meant above was that I expect whatever custom roms we cook up based off of the NS builds to run great.
When do we start speculating about Honeycomb?
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When do we start speculating about Honeycomb?
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When someone in our family (Galaxy S Line) gets it, which will definitely be the Nexus S.
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When someone in our family (Galaxy S Line) gets it, which will definitely be the Nexus S.
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Why wait... it is all guessing anyway. I think anything we say about Honeycomb has an equally good chance at being accurate as what we say about Gingerbread.
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Why wait... it is all guessing anyway. I think anything we say about Honeycomb has an equally good chance at being accurate as what we say about Gingerbread.
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I don't think you really understand my question.
The nexus one was a developer phone that had a snapdragon in it. Google, the creator of Android, directly engineered their software to be optimized on the device because it was their developer device.
Now that a Galaxy S phone is a developer phone, I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the software engineering side to the Nexus one to guess if google built 2.3 from the ground up for the Nexus S, or can/could heavily optimized the code for it.
Now you're question is to speculate about Honeycomb, speculate what? There's nothing to discuss about it, but my question is legit from an engineering stand point. So I'm still left wondering if this is the case or not, I wonder if there is anyone that can enlighten me.
Would be a nice pipe dream for an offical update.
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I don't think you really understand my question.
The nexus one was a developer phone that had a snapdragon in it. Google, the creator of Android, directly engineered their software to be optimized on the device because it was their developer device.
Now that a Galaxy S phone is a developer phone, I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the software engineering side to the Nexus one to guess if google built 2.3 from the ground up for the Nexus S, or can/could heavily optimized the code for it.
Now you're question is to speculate about Honeycomb, speculate what? There's nothing to discuss about it, but my question is legit from an engineering stand point. So I'm still left wondering if this is the case or not, I wonder if there is anyone that can enlighten me.
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And you don't understand my point: No one knows. We might as well speculate about honeycomb. The Nexus S has a different momory mudule iNand not moviNand. What impact will this have? No one knows until they have phones in hand.
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And you don't understand my point: No one knows. We might as well speculate about honeycomb. The Nexus S has a different momory mudule iNand not moviNand. What impact will this have? No one knows until they have phones in hand.
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What about the CPU though? The memory for the Nexus One and Droid Incredible were different, but yet because they shared the same CPUs they received similar benchmark scores in that department.
What does it matter everyone is going to flash custom ROMS of Gingerbread when/if it ever somehow leaks for our phones.
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As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
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This is one of the things that I am optimistic about. Android 2.3 adds support for devices with large internal storage capacities - my understanding is that it was Samsung's poor attempt to hack that support into 2.1 that introduced the issues you mention above. I'm hopeful that this means 2.3 would eliminate the need for lag fixes, and that the better support for some of the cutting edge hardware in the Galaxy S Phones being built into Gingerbread will make it much easier for Samsung to push 2.3 out for our phones.
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This is one of the things that I am optimistic about. Android 2.3 adds support for devices with large internal storage capacities - my understanding is that it was Samsung's poor attempt to hack that support into 2.1 that introduced the issues you mention above. I'm hopeful that this means 2.3 would eliminate the need for lag fixes, and that the better support for some of the cutting edge hardware in the Galaxy S Phones being built into Gingerbread will make it much easier for Samsung to push 2.3 out for our phones.
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Can you elaborate? Coz AFAIK RFS has nothing to do with Samsung's attempt to make a pitiful 16 GB work as internal sd card..
From what I understand, the movinand flash which Galaxy S , when used in RFS performed horribly when doing sync operations (I think I got it from the thread ryanza posted), so, the new flash might as well be Samsung's attempt to correct that error, instead of replacing the (seemingly crap) RFS ..
Anyone have any idea why they are still producing this phone? It just seems strange they would still be making new ones when most early adopts are already up for an upgrade.. and the hardware itself is getting old(while still running ICS thanks to our great community, it raises the question how much farther will the phone be able to be updated..)
a cheaper alternative maybe? or its just that good..
That's exactly what manufacturers wants to hear from consumers. Why buy phones that have lasting dollar values and gets frequent software updates when you can buy a new expensive one every year that doesn't have great built quality and with zero to almost no software update?
Android can use a bit cleaning up on the performance side, even the Galaxy Note stock rom have hiccups because of the bloatness, with quadcore phones they'll have more excuss to bloat and put animations in. Windows Phone 7 seems to do fine with single core. It's not like my Galaxy S is struggling with any of the new games at 800x480 resolution.
Well we already know Samsung said "Nope, ain't gonna happen" for ICS on the Captivate even in spite of builds being made available by the talented folk here at XDA and at other places online. The excuse that "the hardware isn't capable of running ICS adequately" is always a crock because I'm running Doc's Master v8 right now, ICS 4.0.3 based, and I get higher benchmarks with this ROM than the stock KK4 AT&T Gingerbread 2.3.5 ROM with:
- Quadrant
- Antutu
- Vellamo (with Vellamo I actually get slightly higher scores than a Galaxy Nexus, unbelievable)
and several others I've tried recently. So much for being "inadequate" or an underpowered device...
So, Samsung, stop whining and making excuses and just give us some ICS source so people can make a pure ROM I suppose.
Doc's v9 is nice since it's currently a beta and completely unthemed, but a lot of stuff won't install properly on it from Play (although I can install them from the APKs if I remember to manually save them in between ROM swaps).
It's a great phone, it has a beautiful design overall (one of my all time favorites, with the HD2 still being the king of all smartphones to me), USB and headphone connections on the top - I hate it when they're on the sides or bottom, and the main draw being the Super AMOLED display.
People still buy 'em, so Samsung keeps making 'em and AT&T keeps selling 'em.
Works for me.
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Anyone have any idea why they are still producing this phone? It just seems strange they would still be making new ones when most early adopts are already up for an upgrade.. and the hardware itself is getting old(while still running ICS thanks to our great community, it raises the question how much farther will the phone be able to be updated..)
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The R&D and tooling have long been paid for and there are still people buying. It's practically free money for them. The longer they're made, the cheaper they can get. The cheaper they can get, the more they're sold.
I sought this phone out actively because I liked my Epic and knew how to root & fix it easily. I didn't want a contract and for $250 brand new vs $600 for a Note it was a no-brainer.
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Anyone have any idea why they are still producing this phone? It just seems strange they would still be making new ones when most early adopts are already up for an upgrade..
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Simple, it sells. And with it running 2.3.5, it's very much up to date OS wise. It's not ICS, but at this point what is?
The early adopters are a rather small crowd of people that seems large to us because they are the tech obsesses folks that make xda what it is. They count for next to nothing compared to the "average user."
This phone is exactly what Samsung aimed for it to be, a Flagship. It was way a head of the curve when it first came out, and is still a great phone. It's been muddied by the early releases but, the fact that Samsung still won out (and is the top selling android manufacturer) means it really was an excellent device (and family of devices).
It's time is almost up though, because ICS really is beyond its abilities.
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The excuse that "the hardware isn't capable of running ICS adequately" is always a crock because I'm running Doc's Master v8 right now, ICS 4.0.3 based
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But it can't. We don't even have half the features, almost everything new to ICS has been stripped out because we don't have the hardware for it. Sure, the core OS can be made to run on our phone, but even at that we can't run it properly. The things your comparing against are to that of 2.2, ICS is not some dinky internal tweaks. It's a whole new OS, it's 4.0 not 2.4. Now I'll admit that most of the new parts to ICS are little more then shiny buttons that don't serve us much good. But it's rather easy to dismiss things you've never been able to do before. Once you get your hands on a phone actually built for ICS, that is then made future-proof like the ours was, you'll look back at the cappy and laugh at it.
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Once you get your hands on a phone actually built for ICS, that is then made future-proof like the ours was, you'll look back at the cappy and laugh at it.
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Had a Galaxy Nexus - the flagship Android 4.0 device - and couldn't stand it so I returned it and decided to wait on something better. Then the Galaxy Note came out and I can't wait to see what ICS can really do on that device, but since I can't actually afford one I guess that won't matter anyway.
Found this Captivate on craigslist for $60 and it's been fantastic since the moment I bought it. I swear the SGS feels more responsive and stable running a "hack" ROM of the same OS than the Nexus did/does. Yes it could just be some placebo effect, I suppose. A benchmark using Vellamo puts this SGS running an ICS ROM (at 1.2 GHz) outpacing the Nexus, go figure - a single core device running an unofficial hack of an OS besting the dual core flagship device for that very OS... ain't it cool?
There may be some aspects of ICS that the SGS can't do (NFC, etc) but they just so happen to be features I don't give a damn about, either so... it all works out in the end.
phone is sold
as long as ppl buy it.
u can get iPhone3gs u know - @ great price.
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Had a Galaxy Nexus - the flagship Android 4.0 device - and couldn't stand it so I returned it and decided to wait on something better.
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The Galaxy Nexus is not a flagship, just like the Nexus S was not. It's a debut phone and like the other Nexus phones, a developers phone. It's mean to showcase the abilities of ICS, not push the limits of a phone. Our phone came out before the Nexus S, yet that phone has a lot of the exact same internals. Why? ours was made future-proofed, nothing better was needed for GB. The Galaxy Nexus was also not top of the line at it's release, just compare it to an SGS2. Future proof would have meant that LTE was designed into the phone at start, not added later.
But you do bring up a very good point that I already admitted to, most of the new abilities are rather unnecessary for a phone. But I don't doubt that once a good ICS phone comes out we'll find ways to work them into our daily life. Just like we have for all the unnecessary things that the Cappy can do now.
The Captivate is a pretty solid phone still. I still have mine kicking around that I use now for playing music since my Galaxy Nexus doesnt have external memory (and apps are getting bigger and bigger in size so I need all the space I can get) so this phone does quite well for that.
I think I would still be using this phone if it had a bigger screen (I got big hands) and if Samsung was continuing to update this.
i use my spare captivate as a skype phone (between rom tests).
and where is the phone still being sold?
I'm going to buy a g2x from eBay, as far as development is concerned.. how is it ? What's the progress for cm9/ics/aokp? I've got a LG Optimus T and well its an older device with Armv6 so we need openmax drivers... is this phone slated for official ICS release or is LG being stupid even for high end models? What can I expect with this phone and would anyone recommend this phone.. what are the pros and cons, battery and performance, Overclocking options, undervolting options
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I'm going to buy a g2x from eBay, as far as development is concerned.. how is it ? What's the progress for cm9/ics/aokp? I've got a LG Optimus T and well its an older device with Armv6 so we need openmax drivers... is this phone slated for official ICS release or is LG being stupid even for high end models? What can I expect with this phone and would anyone recommend this phone.. what are the pros and cons, battery and performance, Overclocking options, undervolting options
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Most is stable with CM9/ICS/AOKP, we still need drivers though so that we can get a handle on full hardware acceleration and probably just little things that would help out.
The G2x most likely won't get an ICS update, but the O2x(overseas brother) is slated for Q3 this year. We'll pick apart the update for them and adjust it to work for us.
Since for some reason a good deal of our phones are different, you'll have to find the ROM that works for you. I have a good time with ROMs from the Eaglesblood team, but I've tried a few like Weapon and my phone just doesn't agree. Could be the kernel, undervolting, Over clocking or... well, who knows. Like I said, you have to experiment. Most phones can OC to about 1.5(a lot of kernels are 1.4 these days, I think) I'm not too sure on the thresholds of UV.
Pros? It's a beast. It can handle tasks quickly. Dual Core really helped android out. It's 4G so if you're with a service that provides it and in an area with it... you'll be zoomin'! We've got a selection of ROMs too. 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 4.0... You'll have to search a bit, but I'm sure you'd find something that fits you. The IPS screen is really nice too. You can get a pretty wide viewing angle and the colors are great.
Cons? 4G is kind of a battery killer, if you use something like Juice Defender, or just switch your data off whenever you really don't need it, you should be fine. Some ROMs have the option built in. I can usually get through the day just fine if I'm doing some web browsing, or texting, or a few YouTube vids. With ICS its a little bit harder. The phone's working a bit more to provide, lol. Our RAM is only 512mb so... While it works just fine, 1 gig would have been a bit better. Programs wouldn't have to get killed as much and I think it would ease up on the slowdown.
I hope this helps and that my information is on-point. It's a good phone and with the right after-market "love", it's a fantastic device, in my opinion.
How much are you getting your G2x for?
Yeah that's a LG problem..we need openmax drivers for optimus t phones but doubt will get em... its an Armv6 device
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I'm currently on the ICS AOKP ROM for my Vibrant and I love mostly everything on it. Voodoo really makes it my go-to device for music because it sounds good and it sounds loud because of Wolfson DACs (one main reason why I'm considering the G2X: either that or the Galaxy S3, but I'm not sure the US is even going to get the Wolfson DAC). However, I've read issues with forced reboots and still hammering out the ICS stuff. I'm mainly interested in the G2X because I've read that the GPS works as great as Motorola's and HTC's. Basically: I want a phone that's as good as my Vibrant, but also has working GPS, as well as LED flash. Things like screen-type and weight isn't an issue.
To have good GPS you need to be on the latest baseband. There are only two custom roms that support it and they're both practically identical (one is based off the other, and the other is just a slightly modified version of stock).
That said I would choose my g2x over a vibrant any day. And if my ebaying is correct, the vibrant actually sells for more than the g2x, so you could possibly upgrade and make some money off of it.
Vibrant has official CM9 builds, G2x doesn't Stay with Vibrant or go for a SGS2.
being as i have owned the vibrant and now own a G2x, id say its a pretty safe jump. the internal storage is about half of the size of the vibrant but the dual core processor in the g2x rocks. I live in a pretty sprawling urban area and i need my GPS, so i stick with the latest baseband and GPS (and everything else for that matter) works perfectly. plus you get an 8mp camera over the 5mp cam on the vibrant and the front facing camera is always fun too =]
hope my 2 cents helped!
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being as i have owned the vibrant and now own a G2x, id say its a pretty safe jump. the internal storage is about half of the size of the vibrant but the dual core processor in the g2x rocks. I live in a pretty sprawling urban area and i need my GPS, so i stick with the latest baseband and GPS (and everything else for that matter) works perfectly. plus you get an 8mp camera over the 5mp cam on the vibrant and the front facing camera is always fun too =]
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Exactly what I was going to write (mius the GPS stuff, mine still takes a bit to lock, but thats due to the rom I use) I just came from the Vibrant to this and couldn't be happier.
I wouldn't consider a switch to a G2X to be a worthwhile upgrade from most phones. I don't know the vibrant, but I have to think that you can do better than a G2X. There's little hope now of an official ICS ROM, unless T-Mobile announced something recently and I missed it. It's also taken a year for them to get their act together and provide a ROM with working GPS.
It's a dead-end phone, with other phones out there now that have ICS support, and newer phones coming all the time, why move to this POS? I own one, and I regret it. When the SGIII is available on T-Mobile if they won't work me a deal on an upgrade to that, I'll pay whatever I have to to terminate my contract and move to another provider. I feel really burned by the G2X and am very disappointed with the way LG and T-Mobile haven't supported it.
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I wouldn't consider a switch to a G2X to be a worthwhile upgrade from most phones. I don't know the vibrant, but I have to think that you can do better than a G2X. There's little hope now of an official ICS ROM, unless T-Mobile announced something recently and I missed it. It's also taken a year for them to get their act together and provide a ROM with working GPS.
It's a dead-end phone, with other phones out there now that have ICS support, and newer phones coming all the time, why move to this POS? I own one, and I regret it. When the SGIII is available on T-Mobile if they won't work me a deal on an upgrade to that, I'll pay whatever I have to to terminate my contract and move to another provider. I feel really burned by the G2X and am very disappointed with the way LG and T-Mobile haven't supported it.
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I don't think people here understand that this phone has some amazing development. Sure, some of HTC's phones and the nexus phones all have better support, but have you seen the development for the rest of android phones? Most phones you're lucky to have a couple ROMs to try out (and a lot of times they're just debloated or reskinned).
But for what it is, this phone isn't bad and the development isn't bad. And we'll get ICS working once the P990 gets the drivers.
Thanks guys. It looks like I'm going to be in the market for a G2X in the near-future then. From what I gathered: the main problem of the G2X is the lack of software support from Nvidia and LG themselves because they have closed-source drivers that forces devs to do workarounds which can lead to inconsistencies. However, if you can hammer it all out, it should be a good daily driver that works.
Everyone gets a "thanks".
I'll eventually get a SGS3 if it can be confirmed that it'll get Voodoo Control support on the stateside. It was a huge blow to me that the SGS2 didn't have the Yamaha chip and therefore: no Voodoo LOUDER support.
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Thanks guys. It looks like I'm going to be in the market for a G2X in the near-future then. From what I gathered: the main problem of the G2X is the lack of software support from Nvidia and LG themselves because they have closed-source drivers that forces devs to do workarounds which can lead to inconsistencies. However, if you can hammer it all out, it should be a good daily driver that works.
Everyone gets a "thanks".
I'll eventually get a SGS3 if it can be confirmed that it'll get Voodoo Control support on the stateside. It was a huge blow to me that the SGS2 didn't have the Yamaha chip and therefore: no Voodoo LOUDER support.
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Not to hate on either device, I would like to stay as unbiased as I possible could.
Development goes to vibrant, although no one should complain about the g2x's dev. As someone said earlier, at least we have different roms, some don't have any.
GPS definately goes to g2x, never got a vibrant lock to work. I found GPS lock working better on certain roms and that is all different with every g2x so u are going to have to expirement
Gaming: I don't game on my phone a lot but when I do sometimes to test, it never lagged, accept on some ics roms and its not the devs faults. Vibrant gaming is close, just takes longer to open up apps and lags a little. That is only after I used g2x then switched to a vibrant. As for you, you would have never have knew the difference until u try both so it doesn't matter. Also g2x can play Tegra games, dunno any use if that
Camera : I never use
Screen: I know almost everyone out here likes amoled screens and I'm the only one that hates it. Personal preference basically.
Music: get an Ios device! Haha jk, I am not a heavy listener but it works for runs so that's all that matters to me. Voodoo is awesome on vibrant, never messed with it on g2x.
Battery, I have only played with bionix on vibrant so I am comparing that with bionix on g2x. I seem to have better battery life on g2x but that's because I was experimenting with kernels so Idk, what is ur best battery life and ill compare it with mine.
Drotest? Goes to vibrant the "said" to be *ahem* fake aluminium on g2x is horrible, it can't scratch from ur fingernail or even cases. Aren't cases supposed to be protecting the phone? :banghead: as for glass cracking, Idk g2x will probably crack first because it is heavier, who knows?
Now if you read my whole post, u must be desparate to find out what phone to get Also remember don't care about what other people think, its ur phone and it's up to you in the end. Leta see how many typos u get because I am in mobile
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Not worth it..go for another phone if u got the $
syl0n said:
Vibrant has official CM9 builds, G2x doesn't Stay with Vibrant or go for a SGS2.
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Vibrant still has intermittent 911 dialing issues on CM 9 builds. Until FaultException changes his threads to indicate otherwise or you test it, you have to assume you can't call emergency numbers. I went exactly that route - Vibrant to G2x.
Now, I'm only on the stock G2x ROM. But I'm on the audio-fixed 2.3.4 ROM (as I just got the phone yesterday, only paid $160 on eBay and it is in totally great shape). Solid as a rock and what appears to be good battery life. I used the GPS for around a 90 minutes of turn-by-turn directions and it never gave out on me.
The Vibrant was my first high-end smart phone. The G2x is my second, and it's pretty great. So it's not getting CM9 or any other ICS? Not a big deal to me; the Vibrant effectively didn't run ICS well enough for me, at least not yet. The battery life is awful on any Cyanogenmod (compared to stock) and GIngerbread on the G2x is nice nice nice. And fast.
That said, if you can swing the cash for a nicer phone, or if you have an upgrade credit coming, look at the HTC One S. If I was on post-paid and had an upgrade credit, that's where I'd be looking. I don't have $500 to blow on a phone, though, so I went a cheaper route and got a phone with great performance and a screen that won't burn in.
It's unfortunate that, due to the recent V21Y and audio updates, the G2X just became what it should have been when it was first marketed. At least it wasn't totally abandoned by LG and T-Mobile although it is now deactivated as a phone sold by T-Moble. Don't expect ICS until/if LG makes it available for the P990/O2X(non WIND model). Even then, it will take a few iterations of development to get it working well which, hopefully, will be able to happen if there are still developers working on the G2X.
Although I am extremely angry with prejudice with LG and NVIDIA, I like the G2X and I sticking with it because it now works well and I have to keep it until my 3 year non-contract-contract WINDTab+ with WIND Mobile pays for the phone which cost $500 when I got it.
Most of the newer generation of phones are not substantial or insignificant improvements, technologically, over the G2X. If you can get decent $ for your Vibrant and pay less than the $ you got for the Vibrant for a G2X, that would be a win-win for you. Even if you wind up selling the G2X later, you won't lose much if any $ as it is probably at its lowest value until LG stops selling the Optimus 2X which has updates that can be made compatible (except for the baseband) with the G2X.