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I have been reading over the Sensation forum and it appears to have even more bugs than the G2X. What the hell are these manufacturers doing? Also, has anyone seen the video reviews of the Sensation. Theres no reason for all that lag in a high end Android device these days. Our G2X appears much faster.
Lastly, it looks as if HTC really **** the bed with the new version of Sense. Samsung has made positive changes to TouchWiz over the last year while Sense has done nothing but add useless eye candy that hogs up system resources. TouchWiz is now the least intrusive manufacture UI and I applaud Samsung for toning it down.
The Sensation is definitely off of my wish list now. Glad I went with the G2X and possibly the SGSII.
People like sense because it looks easy and pretty. Stock android does not look pretty in comparison. The average user does not care about system resources.
A majority of the people do not buy a g2 for stock android they got it for a keyboard. Most people did not get a g2x for stock android they got it for a larger screen and maybe dual core goodness because it sounds good. Most buyers don't care about quadrant scores and custom roms they want fast large pretty looking eye candy and Facebook.
I'd bet the number of users on this site don't even account for half of 1% of the total android users worldwide.
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+1 awesome post. I agree 100%.
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I think most phones out now have nearly as many issues being complained about on the forums. I haven't noticed any major lag in sensation vids except a couple where they show it being booted up. Every phone I've owned so far had had at least SOME lag to it, especially when booting.
Except for the 1gb of useable internal storage, I really like the phone. My wifes mt4g and my old g2 didn't have much of an issue with that much space.
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I have to agree with the post above. I didn't get the phone for vanilla android. I got it for dual core power, the 8mp camera with autofocus and flash, the 4 inch screen, and HDMI out. like I said, the hardware is so polished, but the software is not. and some stuff out there doesn't even work right, like the toggle widgets on beautiful widgets.
thats what people keep saying but
tackleberry said:
People like sense because it looks easy and pretty. Stock android does not look pretty in comparison. The average user does not care about system resources.
A majority of the people do not buy a g2 for stock android they got it for a keyboard. Most people did not get a g2x for stock android they got it for a larger screen and maybe dual core goodness because it sounds good. Most buyers don't care about quadrant scores and custom roms they want fast large pretty looking eye candy and Facebook.
I'd bet the number of users on this site don't even account for half of 1% of the total android users worldwide.
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i hear this less than 1/2 of 1% all the time. i find it hard to believe that htc would come out and say they are opening bootloaders to please 1/2 of 1% of users.
while this may be true with all android phones i think this % is low for the g line of tmobile phones. and other high tech ones.
I agree though many like sense because its pretty. thats why there are so many copycat clock/weather apps out so we can get it without the rest of the bloat.
i havent had a phone with any of them coming from the droid to the g2x both stock.
but from everything i have read it seems that the only one i see with complaints of causing serious lag with the phones is motoblur.
I did find the perfect phone finally!
its the one that comes out just after the one you bought.
This should make you guys grin...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4416/...8x60-phones-htc-sensation-4g-and-htc-evo-3d/2
eagle1967 said:
I did find the perfect phone finally!
its the one that comes out just after the one you bought.
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Or the one that doesn't come out...the TMO SGSII
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This should make you guys grin...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4416/...8x60-phones-htc-sensation-4g-and-htc-evo-3d/2
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That's highly amusing - our "outdated" Tegra 2 phones running a whole 200MHz slower than the Sensation and Evo 3D - spank the hell out of both and that's not even with Gingerbread...
I have to disagree with the ideas here. I bet a large percentage of iPhone users are jailbroken.
Same with android. I know so many people with androids now and I've been asked if I can root and flash an updated rom for them.
These are random house wives and joe smoes. Android is known for its customization and people take advantage of that.
As far as the sensation, I wrote it off my list a while ago. Too many negatives with just hardware specs let alone what software bugs are found. Still no root or unlocked bootloaders.
I'm following the sgs2 and they seem to be making some headway. Root and custom CWM kernels. I don't think they have much on the custom roms yet. Ouch though, their methods are complicated ones. Seems like a pain.
I don't think I'd trade my G2x for a SGS2 but it would be a first choice if the G2x was magically unavailable.
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Or the one that doesn't come out...the TMO SGSII
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...but Samsung Hercules (Infuse with dual-core CPU) is coming.
Do you remember I made a thread few days ago after I tested Sensation, but that one I complained for the poor LCD (SLCD please).
I totally switched from the Cliq 2 to the G2x mainly based off having Vanilla Android, the Cliq was my first android phone, I had it for a month, and just couldn't stand motoblur.
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...but Samsung Hercules (Infuse with dual-core CPU) is coming.
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Too big!! The SGSII not coming to TMO makes no sense.
I got this phone because I knew I can do so much to it, I can't lie the UI setting HTC offers is nice but I look for more than the interface and such, Iam interested in the processor, the advantages of the rooting process, and the speed of the phone. Besides we can still make our phones look nice with custom roms and themes so Iam happy with my g2x
TMobile G2X
ROM Version: Cyanogenmod7
Just because people ask for root it does not mean they should have it because they have no clue.
My estimate is probably very low but you get the idea.
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I have been reading over the Sensation forum and it appears to have even more bugs than the G2X. What the hell are these manufacturers doing? Also, has anyone seen the video reviews of the Sensation. Theres no reason for all that lag in a high end Android device these days. Our G2X appears much faster.
Lastly, it looks as if HTC really **** the bed with the new version of Sense. Samsung has made positive changes to TouchWiz over the last year while Sense has done nothing but add useless eye candy that hogs up system resources. TouchWiz is now the least intrusive manufacture UI and I applaud Samsung for toning it down.
The Sensation is definitely off of my wish list now. Glad I went with the G2X and possibly the SGSII.
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-1 ... Sorry - too many quality control issues with the G2x ...
I'm tired of hearing how dominant the iphone4 is , i love this g2x, doesn't the g2x blow the iphone4 away? Did anyone have an iphone4 before? Judging by those specs, definitely looks like it.
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I'm tired of hearing how dominant the iphone4 is , i love this g2x, doesn't the g2x blow the iphone4 away? Did anyone have an iphone4 before? Judging by those specs, definitely looks like it.
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You cant really compare them directly because Android and iOS offer different user experiences. They're both good devices but iOS obviously isnt for everyone and neither is Android.
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-1 ... Sorry - too many quality control issues with the G2x ...
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In all reality, there aren't that many issues. Minor screen bleed and wonky battery driver. As long as you the screen bleed isn't bad, the phone is pretty solid. The battery driver is being fixed by the great devs over in the Android Development section.
At least the GPS isn't worthless, or the cellular screwed up, or the bootloader encrypted, or limited touch screen multi-touch.
When put into perspective other other phones and their issues, the G2x is a pretty solid phone. Nothing a little polish from XDA can't make shine.
I believe it is time for another upgrade, i've been upgrading almost like every 2 months for the past 8 months or so.
- HTC Magic
- HTC Tattoo
- LG Optimus One
- Samsung Galaxy S
- LG Optimus 2X - Present
I've got a buyer of my LG 2X in my family, so i wont buy any device at it's full price.
So in my country i've got SGSII at 499€ or the Optimus 3D at 459€
Share your thoughts with me, is O3D worth it for 40€ less than the SGSII?
I'm starting to get sick of LG, and all of its *upgradeable* while not being upgraded. (officially OFC, i'm running latest miui now)
I originally got the sgs2 and had enough problems with it (overheating etc). Gave it back as DOA when it burnt a pixel on day10 and got the lg 3d. Don't regret it even for a minute. I like it more. It feels and IS fast and all that on 2.2 froyo. I guess it will be even better on 2.3. Got it to reach 3600+ quadrant and though benchmarks aren't everything it is really fast man. And all those without any overclocking at all and stock rom v10k. Though sgs2 heating problem is (reportedly) solved i wouldn't go anywhere near it again.nice colors on screen but really bad resollution when you zoom in on text for example, plus some colors appear glitched (see angry birds sky up close). Battery was lasting me as long as o3d does give or take half an hour difference and i am a really heavy user...(sometimes i charge twice a day)
Plus o3d feels nice in your hand and build quallity is great whilesgs2 felt like a piece of cheap plastic (which it really is)... hope i helped
4 me it's a very simple question, and has a very simple answer...
Do you like and want 3D sbs effects on your phone? yes= buy lgo3d
no= buy samsung sgs2
Thats basically my question, i believe that the SGSII is a better device, and i would only go to the 3D if i wanted 3D, since i don't the 3D technology today is going to revolucionize anything, is it worth?
Plus i think that asking this questions here, i will most likely be convinced by O3D people xD
What about updates? FFS this is October, ICS is almost launched! Why are we still using Froyo?! and please don't give me the "stability" answer, froyo is more stable simply because LG worked on Froyo and not on GB.
Software-wise i believe that Samsung is doing a greater job.
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Thats basically my question, i believe that the SGSII is a better device, and i would only go to the 3D if i wanted 3D, since i don't the 3D technology today is going to revolucionize anything, is it worth?
yes and not.. 4 me it's just a new way to sell products...
Plus i think that asking this questions here, i will most likely be convinced by O3D people xD
What about updates? FFS this is October, ICS is almost launched! Why are we still using Froyo?! and please don't give me the "stability" answer, froyo is more stable simply because LG worked on Froyo and not on GB.
you'll find all your answers if you'll take a look in this forum
Software-wise i believe that Samsung is doing a greater job.
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i agree
Hello,
If you can deal with its screen, sure SGS2 is a very good phone.
I couldn't deal with the crazy colors, so far from real ones. I can't bear to read Internet pages that are supposed to be white displayed in a pale blue...
Without this screen i would have go for it.
Here in France the O3D can be found new at 349€. So that's 150 less than SGS2. So it does make a difference.
And the feeling in hands for SGS 2 was not pleasant.
hmm, nice point webgelato...this might actually be the best argument in my own *personal* research of what is the best...
I seems that the main (and actually only serious) complaint about the SGSII is the weird way that the SAMOLED+ likes to treat colors... blueish tintings and yellow tints in some cases...
If i knew things what i know now then i would go with the sgs2. This fones specs are respectable but software is a nightmare. No real custom roms yet. I really get mad sometimes with this phone where simple things such as SMS typing turns a nightmare cause the keyboard acts out regardless the softkeyboard weather stock or installed one. And also you have to reboot the phone at least every week or so because is get really sluggish. As of today i wouldn't recommend this phone even if u want three d
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I've come from the Optimus 2X running MIUI and I can honestly say I don't regret getting this phone for 1 minute, I do have to admit that this phone hasn't got the developers that the O2X has got and I do miss changing roms all the time but I think it will only be a matter of time before it has. I personally think that the sgs2 is a damn good phone but I just think it feels a little plastic and fragile where as the O3D feels a little more solid.
If you can put up with the lack of updates and developers for a while, I think this phone will then get a lot better...
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I do have to admit that this phone hasn't got the developers that the O2X has got
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Exactly!
No one has even tried to port anything for O3D yet. When I had my SonyEricsson X10 and we were stuck with Android 2.1 and a locked bootloader, developers managed to port awesome ROMs. We had a fully working MIUI Gingerbread and lots of Gingerbread ROMs.
But now with O3D, not even a buggy port! Nothing at all! Not even a massively buggy MIUI port to at least taste the MIUI on our phone.
And all the current Custom ROMs that say "LG stuff is removed" are lying. For example the AcuraTeam and King3D ROM have removed the Social+ widget but you can still see the Social+ settings in the Account settings menu.
SelfKANG2 is still so buggy and needs attention but there hasn't been an update for the past three weeks. Aremcee is mainly working on Optimus 2X and Optimus Black.
I regret that I didn't buy a Galaxy S II instead of O3D.
I would recommend you to stay with the 2X a while and then decide.
O3D is a stupid buy at the moment, but since Cyanogenmod is releasing their mod in a few weeks, O3D will be much better.
We have a dual core phone using Froyo. That's like saying we have a Lamborghini with a 1.0L engine.
Froyo doesn't support dual core like it is suppose too.
The O3D has a OMAP4 chip which today is probably the best chip ever for mobile phones and other devices.
We will be able to use Linux on our phones without any big portings since there is already stable releases for different linux distros for OMAP4.
I have a O3D but I'm still using my DHD. I didn't buy my O3D for the 3D function, i bought it for the dual core, the 4.3" screen and the OMAP4 chipset.
KurdX said:
I would recommend you to stay with the 2X a while and then decide.
O3D is a stupid buy at the moment, but since Cyanogenmod is releasing their mod in a few weeks, O3D will be much better.
We have a dual core phone using Froyo. That's like saying we have a Lamborghini with a 1.0L engine.
Froyo doesn't support dual core like it is suppose too.
The O3D has a OMAP4 chip which today is probably the best chip ever for mobile phones and other devices.
We will be able to use Linux on our phones without any big portings since there is already stable releases for different linux distros for OMAP4.
I have a O3D but I'm still using my DHD. I didn't buy my O3D for the 3D function, i bought it for the dual core, the 4.3" screen and the OMAP4 chipset.
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Am aware of the power of the TI chipset and it's awesomeness. I still think that LG sucks software-wise, and that everyone will be waiting impatiently for an outdated Android version GB. Thats my big downside for choosing LGO3D
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I would recommend you to stay with the 2X a while and then decide.
The O3D has a OMAP4 chip which today is probably the best chip ever for mobile phones and other devices.
We will be able to use Linux on our phones without any big portings since there is already stable releases for different linux distros for OMAP4.
I have a O3D but I'm still using my DHD. I didn't buy my O3D for the 3D function, i bought it for the dual core, the 4.3" screen and the OMAP4 chipset.
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That is the main reason for me choosing the O3D over the O2X mainly because of the bigger screen and the OMAP4 and of course aremcee saying thats its a damn good phone was the final thing that made me want to change.
I post very rarely, cause I am a very capable leech and can use the search button. In this case I feel like the g2x isn't getting enough love. Yes, in all likelihood we will not be getting official ICS support, but we will get CM9. Even though the 2 cores wont be completely utilized, the tegra2 will probably be faster than that qualcomm SoC. Anyone I know that has moved to the sensation has stated the g2x is a faster device. Anyways, I am using a Cherry Pick cm7 nightly from... that other site, with faux's kernel and decided to give that V6 supercharger a try. It is buttery smooth, no APN problems, no BSOD, battery life under heavy use is incredible. I have used Weapon, White's Miui, EB, Axura, and CM7.1. Take your pick, they are all amazing. We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset. I will now retreat back into my hole. Might be fun just to have a thread not so negative ya know!
I know I might be jumping the ship. I'm on MIUI with faux 4.3 UV kernel and I love this phone. Everything is fast, everything works. However as far as future proof the only reason I am thinking of switching is because of the support. The dev section for the g2x is dying. We have 2 or 3 ROMS that are actually good and get updated frequently. Have you looked at the sensation dev section? There are about 8 active threads. The mytouch 4G(my old phone) is much older than this phone and still has a more active dev section. Its disappointing.
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I agree. Seems as though imo lg and nvidia are the reason. I may be wrong but from what I understand the devs just have a hard time with the drivers they are provided.
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
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Higher processor speed =/= better performance.
That's not how CPUs work.
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I get it, its not as exciting. I had the g1 while it development was peaked. We still got a device that is gonna be future proof long enough to get to the kal-el powered phones. Which is when I will probably think it will be worth upgrading. Remember the software has not yet caught up to this hyper powered hardware. Most of the development so far has gone to getting the operating system to a point where they can start optimizing it. Shadow Gun doesn't even start to flex the power of this chipset. Well, that is my ignorant impression of the android situation.
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I know I'm just saying but we've been able to overclock the gpu too and right now our neocore nemamark etc. scores are high as hell lol get it.... But yeah dont hate and in real world performance its silky smooth. That's what she said xD
Oh and I hope you guys get that devs support you need gl with that
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Hey, I'm not hating, I'm just sayin.'
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We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset.
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+1
I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
You people kill me. How many roms do you intend on running on your phone? You can only run one unless you have dual boot. You talk about the devs abandoning g2x or not enough development. Well what do you want to see that hasent been done? There are nightlies out everyday. Somebody must be developing something. Here's what you do, pick a rom, any rom and stick with it.
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Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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It was the second Android on Verizon. They could let us with foyo and then dropped us they did that phone wrong. It had bad dialer lag that foyo would helped. It was a crap phone.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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Very bad speaker quality I might add also, tho I still loved the heck out of my ol' g1,mt4g.
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon.
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What makes you say that? They backpedaled a bit on the no ICS statement but only so far as to say they were still testing phones for compatibility, which basically means nothing.
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Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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+1
I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
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+1
keep up the great work devs....and remember children will act like children. Do not let the negative kids chase you off. Most of us appreciate the hard work.
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Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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Very well said.
You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? We have CM7 for the AOSP crowd, MIUI for the iPhone lookalikers, and Weapon for stock lovers. Throw in Ultimate for 2.2 and Eaglesblood for minimalism and I really don't see what we're missing out on.
More != better.
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You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? ... More != better.
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Agreed, how often do most people change ROMs anyway? (I'm not talking about nightlies or new versions, but about swapping between say CM7 and MIUI.) I'd rather have a handful of well-developed projects than a dozen or so ones that meander along without ever really completing.
Thanks as well to the devs - loving the work!
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
My unbranded GS2 Miui Exnoys 1.5Ghz OC is pushing 6000 quadrant beat that
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op is right, I am on 182 + Faux CM + v6 charger @ Balance 3, oced @ 1.2 for daily use, smooth like butter. Only problem with Google navigation doesn't auto rotate.
hi,
What is better choice 3d or 2x? or where is better support....
lets see what ppl say about this....
2x has a bigger community, much more roms to choose from and is generally better supported. If you don't need 3D and you can live with a smaller screen and slightly lower performance you can buy 2x a fair bit cheaper than O3D. Also, LG confirmed that 2x will receive official ICS.
I think LG made the same commitment for the O3D regarding Ice Cream Sandwich, so that's no issue
I agree with the rest of your post though, if you want the latest and fastest and are interested in playing and recording 3D content, get the O3D. Otherwise, get the 2X which is cheaper and more supported by third parties, though I hope that with the update to Gingerbread starting to roll out more parties will be interested to make roms for the O3D.
Or wait and get a quadcore based phone next year
Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
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Besides hardware and specs... its a question of do you want your cake now or later? 2x has more roms and stuff but look at how much the O3D and Thrill forums are blowing up. Things are coming along here and soon we will have just as much as everyone else. Also I think most of the roms for this phone are pretty well put together. You might have a lot more rom choices right now on another phone but how many of them are even worth flashing? O3D and Thrill are just getting off the ground and have some pretty new tech in them and we already have a good amount of roms and now kernels are being brought out. We are going to be one of the first to get CM9 and once everything for this phone is figured out I am sure it will blow the 2x and many other phones away.
...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
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Well spoken.
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Optimus 2X has the Harmony Tegra2 Chipset.
There's NO support whatsoever from NVIDIA for that chipset.
There's NO open source drivers for that chipset.
There's serious doubts about the possibility of implementing ICS on Harmony without the binary blob from NVIDIA.
On the other hand, TI releases all their code for the OMAP platform.
It's an ideological reason, but for me (and for the medium/long-term implications) I choose the open option.
@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
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@Beriaru
Can I conclude from your post above that the Optimus 3D (aka P920) would be a better option due to having a more open source policy regarding the drivers?
I am having the same question as the OP of this thread. LG is giving 100 EUR mone back for buying this phone, which puts it at a very competitive price range.
I would like to ask if the P920 has:
1) Unlocked bootloader
2) Will it support ICS?
How is the battery life on it? I have an HD2 running NAND Android and I would like to know if it would be as good, better or worst in your opinion. (I understand it has to do with the way we use it, but for normal use (some phone calls, sms, music and light web surfing).
Thank you all for your help.
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Good man, another one who came from the HD2 side! I also had an HD2 and was heavy into flashing and playing with it, running Android NAND most of the time, GB 2.3.7 so I think my opinion here is about the most accurate you might get.
If I use my O3D the same as I did the HD2 it would last pretty much the same, with light web surfing, chatting most of the day, a few phone call here and there. The HD2 had a much longer standby time though due to the ROM I was using having a 6ma draw when Idle. The optimus is not quite there yet.
So comparing the upgrade in hardware with a very slighly less battery life, I'd say the optimus sticks to the HD2 pretty well (battery life wise)
Here, have a look at the state of development of CM9 for O3D and O2X:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Thanks Willievi (+1) for that information. I am getting 4mah wit my current HD2 ROM, so I am quite pleased with that. I think that once this phone gets gingerbread and hopefully ICS the battery life (at least in standby) should be improved considerably.
Do you find it in any way slow, or are you reasonably happy with it?
@Beriaru
Thank you very much for that link to googleplus. It is always nice to see a fellow Portuguese (at least the name suggests that), is working on this phone.
bioweb said:
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LOLz
I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
Shoqovi said:
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I think comunity goes for 2x because nVidia,but nVidia failed here .....
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Too bad for nvidia... great chip, but closed source.
So, I'm getting a new phone. I have a Cliq 2 at the moment and I'm currently debating between this phone and the LG G2x. I've heard tons of good things about both phones.
So, how is this phone? What are its good, and bad things? How is the keyboard?
I'm not asking about which phone I should get, I'm just asking about what are the ups of this phone, and what are its downs? How's the stock rom? How are all the custom roms? And any other useful things you guys can throw in about this phone.
Thanks!
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So, I'm getting a new phone. I have a Cliq 2 at the moment and I'm currently debating between this phone and the LG G2x. I've heard tons of good things about both phones.
So, how is this phone? What are its good, and bad things? How is the keyboard?
I'm not asking about which phone I should get, I'm just asking about what are the ups of this phone, and what are its downs? How's the stock rom? How are all the custom roms? And any other useful things you guys can throw in about this phone.
Thanks!
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I don't want to sound overly negative but this phone...cons
Very little ROM support
Stock is MySense 3.0 which is watered down Sense 3.0 and sucks
The dual cores don't seem to fire like they should...my MT4G was faster and only one core..
Keyboard is flat and hard to type....
Pros....
Hmmm Camera is cool....
some love the tv out....
and it should get 4.0
Love it. I amazing build quality, amazing camera, amazing keyboard. Sense launcher sucks and stock it sucks but with a rom its awesome.
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Pros:
Very stable
Easily rooted
Gets even faster once the Sense launcher and Rosie are both gone
Cons:
Only two devs actually working on this device (Undeadk9 and Kornyone)
No stable CyanogenMod builds yet
Stock ROM is almost pure bloatware
Well I think this phone is pretty snappy myself.
Undeadk9 has created a very stable Rom with an aosp feel and minimum sense just for the dialer and camera, which is perfect for me atleast.
Undeadk9 also is the first to get gpu ui rendering on any rom, so the phone is finally using the most out of its great hardware specs. I think the dual cores are perfect already, but once we get ics, I think the phone will fully utilize both cores
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Pretty good phone. Easy to root. New version of Bulletproof coming out soon.
I had been using a G1 from the start and took some doing for me to switch. Tried 2 different g2s that didn't work.
I really like the G1 keyboard but am getting used to the 4g slide's.
Only draw back is I work in a roaming area during the week and have trouble getting and making calls. Network problems with T-mobiles "roaming" partner network.
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Undeadk9 also is the first to get gpu ui rendering on any rom, so the phone is finally using the most out of its great hardware specs...
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Not quite true - the pre-1.0 version of Bulletproof had hardware rendering set as the default behavior, which I removed for the 1.0 release, and that was a while ago.
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I love this device, it's fantastic. Beefy hardware and a nice, smaller package, the capabilities of the device we are opening up is fantastic.
love the keyboard, aftermarket anker battery makes the package, and some nice cases out for it now.
Hardware rendering is a bit buggy, and i'm pretty sure it's a kernel issue that can be addressed - i've been studying this problem since about the middle of august and will start to address the issue in another week or so.
It works fine on the phone itself, but once you start using the TV-out function of the phone it gets weird at times.
If nto using hardware decoding, though, playing video games and watching movies on a TV is a fantastic feature without having to carry around the bulky MHL adapter some phones need, and the screen stays active which means you can use it as a controller for whatever you are playing on the TV.
Love the phone, you probably will too if you pick one up.
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Not quite true - the pre-1.0 version of Bulletproof had hardware rendering set as the default behavior, which I removed for the 1.0 release, and that was a while ago.
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I love this device, it's fantastic. Beefy hardware and a nice, smaller package, the capabilities of the device we are opening up is fantastic.
love the keyboard, aftermarket anker battery makes the package, and some nice cases out for it now.
Hardware rendering is a bit buggy, and i'm pretty sure it's a kernel issue that can be addressed - i've been studying this problem since about the middle of august and will start to address the issue in another week or so.
It works fine on the phone itself, but once you start using the TV-out function of the phone it gets weird at times.
If nto using hardware decoding, though, playing video games and watching movies on a TV is a fantastic feature without having to carry around the bulky MHL adapter some phones need, and the screen stays active which means you can use it as a controller for whatever you are playing on the TV.
Love the phone, you probably will too if you pick one up.
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Okay, cool. Before this phone came out I wanted it so bad, but for some reason I just forgot about it haha.
And oh, no CM? My I have it installed on my Cliq2 and I love it. The more custom roms the better haha
Edit: nevermind, just looked at the development section and saw there was a CM rom.
Why did someone say earlier not many ROMs? From what it looks like, there's a lot
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I like it, Im getting used to the keyboard, but it works. The Bulletproof rom is nice and snappy, feels good in my hands.. its a nice improvement over the 3g slide I used to have.
It has a lot of nice features that will be amazing once rom devs (like Blue6IX) tweek the kernel further
And its one of the few dual core phones with a slide out keyboard.
kornyone got himself added to the CM team by porting the majority of it to this device.
He released a rough alpha version of CM7 for the device, which was freakin' awesome! - just with the release of ICS by Google the entire CM crew is working around the clock to get ICS ported back to older devices, so the CM7 project for this device got shelved for a bit.
Because kornyone was interested in this device enough to go ahead and start getting CM7 ported to it, i'd like to think that puts this phone in a good position to get whatever ICS goodness they are working on.
I'm a bug fan of their work, I run CM7 on my Nook Color and love it - it's amazing what they've done.
For this device, personally, i'm preferring to work with Sense, which I know doesn't appeal to everyone. Once ICS hits the phone I think it'll be important to maintain a Sense option for people who would prefer to keep some of the proprietary technologies they've paid for (like TV-out).
I dunno, I bought a second one of these phones for development purposes, so if that says anything about how much I like it
i like the phone a lot as well, and i just can't get myself to flash CyanogenMod on it, haha(i have a G2 for that ). i personally feel HTC did a good job on this Mysense... even on stock, everything seems to work, and it looks great. granted i haven't used tv-out yet, and it sounds like the playback isn't stellar.... yet. the phone also doesn't seem as blazing fast as one might expect, but it is fast enough. i look forward to trying the next release of Bulletproof because it sounds like Blue61x has slimmed it down, while maintaining stability and all the Sense goodies.
I love this phone. I got it through rma from t mobile, brand new. Took a few to get one that I loved, but I'm much pickier than most. Feels very solid, I think its blazing fast.
I'm not sure what people are talking about when they say it isn't fast. I think this phone is a monster. Fastest phone I've used (mt3g, hd2 with android, mt4g). Notice I've only ever had touchscreen phones. I was in love with the galaxy s2, and thought for sure it would be my next phone. Then I got this thing, and I'm pretty darn sure I won't be switching anytime soon.
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I love this phone. I got it through rma from t mobile, brand new. Took a few to get one that I loved, but I'm much pickier than most. Feels very solid, I think its blazing fast.
I'm not sure what people are talking about when they say it isn't fast. I think this phone is a monster. Fastest phone I've used (mt3g, hd2 with android, mt4g). Notice I've only ever had touchscreen phones. I was in love with the galaxy s2, and thought for sure it would be my next phone. Then I got this thing, and I'm pretty darn sure I won't be switching anytime soon.
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Agreed. I own this since a few days. Its fast as hell...I'm using it with cm7, its working pretty well with it, except the cm7 has 720p video recording only. I'm okay with that. Otherwise its one of the best phones with keyboard. The screen resolution tho is a bit lagging behind the current best ones, but at least this phone fits well in the pocket.
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I'm thinking about getting this phone when I get my discount next month. I've had a chance to handle it a couple times, really like the feel of the slider, and the camera is just great(especially when compared to other HTC phones before it)!
It also looks like there's a couple great devs working on it. I'm following Blue's threads and I'm very impressed, plus korny seems to be making great progress with ICS.
Any chance someone could post a video overview of Bulletproof 1.1? I'd really like to see it in action
Can anyone tell me how the sound quality is - earpiece and speakerphone (calls and music) compared to HD2?
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Can anyone tell me how the sound quality is - earpiece and speakerphone (calls and music) compared to HD2?
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Personally this phone kicks ass. I have both a Sensation, and HD2 along side this baby. The sound quailty is amazing. I kick back, and relax to some biggie all the time. The screen is WVGA, not as clear as a qHD but is still good. The keyboard is much better than the Q2. I need a hardware keyboard since I text the Wife constantly, and its never let me down. The Duel Core shows off its power along side the 220 gpu. Speaker is load, performance is gooood. I use this over my sensation all the time.
But there's not many ROMs for it Xo there's more ROMs by the banished one on rootzwiki. Bulletproof is a good mysense rom, but there's a lot of neet roms. Where getting a true sense 3.0 rom soon. This phone is a must buy.
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... Where getting a true sense 3.0 rom soon. ...
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The stock Sense version is true Sense 3.0, not sure what you mean by this?
Maybe you are thinking Sense 3.5?
The phone is a beast on the spec sheet, but the stock rom is a bloated mess. If you're willing to root it, and freeze some of the bloat, stock isn't bad.
The keyboard is not as good as the MT3GS's, but I'm sure that was a tradeoff for the better specifications.
Basically, if you want a high end phone with a keyboard, there really just aren't many alternatives. I'm hoping we get some sort of ICS ROM (either cyanogen or HTC), as that'd extend the phone's life at least another year.
To Lifesorrows and Johnycat26,
Thanks a lot for the info - I just ordered the phone. I'm really impressed with Android on the HD2, but I really miss a hw kbd and having a great camera (and the extra ROM and RAM don't hurt either!)
To Blue61x, maybe he means a regular Sense ROM not the T-Mo modified "My-Sense" (for example w/o shortcuts on lock screen)?
I just got this phone today! I am loving it. So far. The hw keys a little hard to work with, that's about it though. Otherwise.this thing is a beast!! I love it. Came from a SGS4, big difference. That phone was so slow!!.o waving bye bye to it now. Had.a mytouch 4 h before and mt3h slide before that..o also had a cliq .and a.blackberry 9700. ........
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