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Wow,,,, the touch pro forum is saturated with a wide variety of complaints! Can my fellow xda'ers tell me what is the Touch Pro's universal drawbacks? I know that most consider the screen to be a tad small. I think real user insights are much better than "Professional" reviews.

just sold my omnia and got a Touch Pro
I'm totally happy, this keyboard is awesome!

keyboard is the best, 5 rows including a row for numbers.... excellent.

I don't see that many complaints.

Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.

nickba said:
Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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why won't HTC have a ROM update? They offered an update when diamond first came out, I hope they'd offer more updates as TP rolls out in more countries.

100% of that complaint can be fixed with a rom update, those aren't even that many complaints and remember the phone isnt even out yet in the US, most of those complaints originated from users in the US with unlocked european versions that were never meant to be used in the states. Now thats not to say the phone doesn't need work but all those problems could be fixed easily with an update.

I agree that all the complaints could be solved by a ROM update, but I am holding to use it as my primary phone, till a firmware update comes, but I am really disappointed with HTC support.
I am not an USA user...
And I am still using my old P1i as my primary phone, at least the camera works very well, the alarms always work and I don't need to reset it all the time as the Touch Pro.

So maybe the touch pro isn't a fat brick with a tiny screen, a lousy dpad, lagging GPS and half buggy apps? A good keyboard and a high res screen doesn't redeem these issues really.
I sure wish there were something better out there for us. So far a shocking 80% of users are happy.

I am over all very happy with mine, yes it is slow at times and buggy. It will get better over time. My iphone was rubbish I could not restore like I can with my pro. Also having the sat nav is fantastic. I use it purely for emailing, phone and sat nav nothing more and it does them all great.

Well I'm happy with my TP, helped me find this place and managed to pick some great advice and tips up on the way

I think how much you paid greatly affects your satisfaction with the phone. I was very happy with my Fuze, but not happy enough to keep it for the $1,000 I sold it for. When it comes out for $300, it will be well worth the money. It will even be worth the $550 it will sell for without contract with AT&T, but not $1,000.

the mentioned buggy issues in earlier posts are indeed a bit annoying. but overall it is a very nice and goodlooking phone. The keyboard is absolutly brilliant, specialy for me as a former HTC touch user. So, although i am waiting for some updates from HTC, i really am happy with this phone.

nickba said:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
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Either I don't have it or am not noticing it that much.
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4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
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There's a fix for that in that forum.
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3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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Why care for support emails when you have a great device?

Hey jamespaulritter, I've started a thread with most frequently TP issues (and solutions/work-around):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2645801
kocureq said:
Why care for support emails when you have a great device?
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Because TP out of the box has some annoying bugs. And the fix for this issues should come from htc.

I remember reading somewhere that the Earphone volume was very low and an issue. Surprised no one mentions that in this thread.
I am contemplating buying one once it is available in my country but I want to be doubly sure before I buy one because I will be using it as my primary phone.
I would love to hear your experiences.

Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.

Best Phone I've Ever Owned...can't Wait For The Hd!

I am very happy with my phone overall. All of the performance issues were solved with a few minor tweaks, I know I will find it even better once i get around to loading up a cooked ROM.
GPS does lag, but there seem to be a number of tweaks to help this and personally i find the gps does work, just not that well. My last phone didn't have a gps. Future roms and cooked roms alike will fix these minor issues, the phone hasn't even been out long, give people some time to work with it.

onderduiker said:
Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.
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That's definitely a software issue, my Fuze had the AT&T ROM and I can tell you it had no GPS lag at all. It was as good as any GPS unit I've ever used, no less a phone.

Camrecord Poor quality problem

hello folks ?
what's going on ?
so im newbie in this forum although i have been reading it since 2 months ago cuze this is a nice forum and i've learnt a lot stuff thanx this forum.
Today Im leaving a new Thread cuze i have a problem with my motorola xt720.
I have no idea why the problem is happening . but for some strange reason my motorola is recording video in hd mode with a poor video quality.
this is the example :
youtube plus /obD6zNfl7r4 ( i wrote in this way cuze im newbie and i cant post links )
my phone is the version with 550mhz proccesor and i have a 8gb sd card class 2.
sometimes when im recording some video, android says me that it has a problem with read/writing my sd.
also another times i can record some video with nice quality.
i had thought that the problem could be the cam was damaged but always i can take nice pics with no problems....
im thinking to change my sd and get some sd 6+ class. but i need fix this problem.
so if somebody can help me , plz leave me to know..
Thanx for all and my regards form Barranquiilla, Colombia....
So long

Hola mijaelstand,
First off, what ROM are you using? Do you have the Motorola Stock 2.1 ROM or have you flashed to anything else?
If you can sometimes record with nice quality and other times will poor quality, this may be a memory issue or a background app problem. The processor on this phone seems to need every bit of power it can get out of the CPU to record high quality video. Android 2.2 usually does a decent job of memory allocation but it depends on your minfree settings. Also background apps (if not killed by minfree) can take cpu cycles.
So as a test you can manually force close the majority of running apps under Home Screen->Menu Button->Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->Running TAB, kill things like adobe flash, facebook, maps, etc. And then try capturing a video to see if it helps the quality.
Next, if android says it has a problem with the sd card, it might be a good idea to replace it.
Lastly, I got a 404-Not found when I added the extension "/obD6zNfl7r4" to youtube[dot]com. So unfortunately, I couldn't see your video.
-J

thejaycan said:
Hola mijaelstand,
Lastly, I got a 404-Not found when I added the extension "/obD6zNfl7r4" to youtube[dot]com. So unfortunately, I couldn't see your video.
-J
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You have to add obD6zNfl7r4 after "/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\"

geez, it's getting late over here... thanks Zachary
mijaelstand, I now watched the video and I think I've changed my position. When you said poor quality I thought you meant frame skipping. The video seems to have banding issues. So my recommendations may not work for your problem. I've never seen that before on my XT720.

Hi dude. Thanx for reply. : ).....
I have my phone with the original room from factory.. still i have updated it. So im 2.1 eclair android version but im planning to update it .
I have setCpu app installed with motorola milestone overclockling app and it's running at 1000mhz on demand and it's smoothin. Very nice.
Also i uploaded a video where you can watch it and it has a nice quality. Look at this:
youtube.c/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_play. er&v=_H-SzGy9TxYr
So in this way i dont think the problem is some issue with the cam... also i have my sd in 2 partition cuze lin2sd can works. Also I dont know if the problem is the processor. So i need test it as u told me.
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using XDA App

Hey,
This seems like a pretty standard recording. My XT720 performs in the same way. The only issue I think you have is lighting. The camera performs really poorly in low light and well outside. Try taking a video outside and post it. Goodluck.

Sorry im going to upload some example video. Thanx
Sent from my Milestone XT720 using XDA App

Skype sounds terrible

Does skype for you guys sound crap as well? I just got my friend a ATT One X and she is P.O ed that skype sounds so bad. Tried it for myself and there really is terrible cracking when calling. Any fixes or such?

I have this issue too, it's more obvious while Skype is ringing when you are trying to make a call.

afzalarsalan said:
Does skype for you guys sound crap as well? I just got my friend a ATT One X and she is P.O ed that skype sounds so bad. Tried it for myself and there really is terrible cracking when calling. Any fixes or such?
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Yep, sounds like Sh*t. Seems like multi core studdering.

Bump
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA

Yup, same here. Sounds kind of like the artifacts you hear when you turn up a set of crappy speakers up too much - a static/crackling type sound. Seems to be isolated to skype too - sound in my other applications and normal phone calls are fine. I also have a friend with this phone who has the same skype issues.
Kind of surprised there hasn't been more posted about this issue actually. Hopefully it will be fixed with the next skype software update.

It actually crashed on me when i tried a video chat with my mom!
I think the reason is that One X is still not certified with Skype to run smoothly.
The same thing happens with my Xoom running Team EOS' ICS.
Just give it time. Skype will do an update pretty soon

I actually didn't have any issues like this. I video Skyped the first day that I got the phone and the only issue either of us had (me and the person I talked to) was that on her end the video and audio wasn't synced.

More to it, the video looks like **** too, after a while shows pink artifacts, and they grow in size, soon the whole picture become pink...On the other end they see me perfectly fine. Oh and their connection is 10mb/sec both ways...
Also one time the phone started ringing (skype) but nothing showed on the screen, not even in the notification bar. If skype used the same ringtone as the phone I would never guessed what's going on...
Skype as used be one of the buggies/resources hog/bloatware, as it is now, as it will ever be, it's not gonna change I guess. And yet, I'm using it...go figure.

afzalarsalan said:
Does skype for you guys sound crap as well? I just got my friend a ATT One X and she is P.O ed that skype sounds so bad. Tried it for myself and there really is terrible cracking when calling. Any fixes or such?
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Yep, I've got that problem too! I've tried a couple of different builds of Skype and still the audio is clipping, clicking, crackling all the time. To add salt to the wound, Skype sounds fine on my older SGS2.
Did you find a fix yet?
Thanks!

I can confirm the issue as well.
I would try using Tango.

+1 for suck call quality on skype. Viber runs way much better, its even better than the regular voice call
Sent from my HTC One XL

+1. Skype on HOX sucks.

any fixes?
Any updates/better apk's? sorry to always be a leech on here.

Android 9/PIE update on S9+

I have successfully updated my S9+ to android 9 using Odin.I have used it for over a week now and the ONLY MAJOR issue is the inability to pair with my Samsung Galaxy S3 Frontier. I have several pictures of what Pie looks like on the s9+.

Oh and what about share some download link

Epic htc 1 said:
I have successfully updated my S9+ to android 9 using Odin.I have used it for over a week now and the ONLY MAJOR issue is the inability to pair with my Samsung Galaxy S3 Frontier. I have several pictures of what Pie looks like on the s9+.
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Only this soft is available on the American version of the G965U - Snapdragon Samsung Galaxy S9

MTAVALI said:
Oh and what about share some download link
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https://www.xda-developers.com/install-android-pie-beta-snapdragon-samsung-galaxy-s9/

MTAVALI said:
Oh and what about share some download link
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If you have never had any experience with ODIN or are afraid of turning your phone into a $1,000 paperweight then i strongly suggest leaving this to the pros.I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE NEGLIGENCE.

Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.

aaronisham95 said:
Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.
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Yikes!!!!

Wonder when we will get these leak builds for the exynos

aaronisham95 said:
Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.
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Even since I started playing around with smart phones, I have never managed to completely brick a phone, especially new phones, how on earth do you fully brick one now days lol.

Is it have navigation gesture?

Fixxcr said:
Is it have navigation gesture?
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Yes it has but currently not working with the current builds

This is for snapdragon, correct?

fit333 said:
This is for snapdragon, correct?
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Yes, it is not suitable for European versions.

Can confirm working on s9+
Only problems I've had is Bluetooth car phone calls apparently sound like garbage to the other person and when the phone call ends it doesn't tell my car it's ended and when it resumes music it sounds like someone putting sound dampening material on my speakers. I have to turn my Bluetooth off and on again and it's fixed.
Also popup view isn't working correctly. The X at the top where you can drag the popup to dismiss it won't leave until you stop the process which is just a quick restart for me.
The original post says dual cameras isn't working yet but it does for me. I have normal and telephoto buttons in the camera app.
WiFi calling also doesn't work. Nor does device care.
I also feel like my Sprint LTE slowed quite a bit. Nothing loads nearly as fast on data.

Zoruda said:
Can confirm working on s9+
Only problems I've had is Bluetooth car phone calls apparently sound like garbage to the other person and when the phone call ends it doesn't tell my car it's ended and when it resumes music it sounds like someone putting sound dampening material on my speakers. I have to turn my Bluetooth off and on again and it's fixed.
Also popup view isn't working correctly. The X at the top where you can drag the popup to dismiss it won't leave until you stop the process which is just a quick restart for me.
The original post says dual cameras isn't working yet but it does for me. I have normal and telephoto buttons in the camera app.
WiFi calling also doesn't work. Nor does device care.
I also feel like my Sprint LTE slowed quite a bit. Nothing loads nearly as fast on data.
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This also just showed up today on my device, also I factory reset my device and my catche in recovery and everything works now,except the bluetooth issue that I'm also having in my car. I did see that there is a beta 3 out now to download. I will upload the file in about 3 hrs

Epic htc 1 said:
I will upload the file in about 3 hrs
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Please do!

does it work in the Brazilian version sm-g9560 with snapdragon 128gb / 6gb? thank you

Epic htc 1 said:
If you have never had any experience with ODIN or are afraid of turning your phone into a $1,000 paperweight then i strongly suggest leaving this to the pros.I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE NEGLIGENCE.
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Well it's not really sold for 1000 ... It's about 700 on Amazon. I bought mine for 600... In a year's time it will go for 500...refurbished 400 yet I don't think any X's will sell under a 1000....
still s9+ is not to be played with unstable Android from xda... It never will work as factory intended...
Anyone wanna play with Android's, buy xiaomi or oppo...
Anyhow, if u hold s9+ in hand vs xs, iPhone easily satisfy double the worth....
As I mentioned I feel hugely let down by Samsung's camera no matter what anyone reviewer say... Android is for geeks, iPhone is for people who want a dependable credible high a quality phone that no Android touches.... End of story

martin80k said:
Well it's not really sold for 1000 ... It's about 700 on Amazon. I bought mine for 600... In a year's time it will go for 500...refurbished 400 yet I don't think any X's will sell under a 1000....
still s9+ is not to be played with unstable Android from xda... It never will work as factory intended...
Anyone wanna play with Android's, buy xiaomi or oppo...
Anyhow, if u hold s9+ in hand vs xs, iPhone easily satisfy double the worth....
As I mentioned I feel hugely let down by Samsung's camera no matter what anyone reviewer say... Android is for geeks, iPhone is for people who want a dependable credible high a quality phone that no Android touches.... End of story
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Does that mean you will never post in these forums again?

Is it known when it will come out on the s9 + exynos version

Blurry front camera

I love my pixel 3a, even the front camera selfies (even though it has a fixed focus). The phone takes awesome pictures, also with the front camera.
However, during video call (whatsapp or snapchat), the video quality is very very very bad. I mean like there is water in the lens or something or it just can't focus or its trying to smooth out everything till infinity. I don't get how this is possible. I know android doesn't have the best social media camera (compared to iphone, which is better optimized), but my galaxy s8 is doing whatsapp and snapchat video's just fine and in focus.
Other people have experience with this? it's really a pity, because it's the only thing i really dislike at the moment.
Any help would be appreciated.
With kind regards
Bengaal

Bengaal said:
I love my pixel 3a, even the front camera selfies (even though it has a fixed focus). The phone takes awesome pictures, also with the front camera.
However, during video call (whatsapp or snapchat), the video quality is very very very bad. I mean like there is water in the lens or something or it just can't focus or its trying to smooth out everything till infinity. I don't get how this is possible. I know android doesn't have the best social media camera (compared to iphone, which is better optimized), but my galaxy s8 is doing whatsapp and snapchat video's just fine and in focus.
Other people have experience with this? it's really a pity, because it's the only thing i really dislike at the moment.
Any help would be appreciated.
With kind regards
Bengaal
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HI Bengal
Same issue with me, I'm hoping this issue is software of whatsapp app. should be fixed next update or next update Android 10.
What base model do you used? Mine is QQ3A.200605.002
Thanks!
Regards
Asep

asepuhuybok said:
HI Bengal
Same issue with me, I'm hoping this issue is software of whatsapp app. should be fixed next update or next update Android 10.
What base model do you used? Mine is QQ3A.200605.002
Thanks!
Regards
Asep
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Thanks for your reply Asep,
I am running the same build number as you. Yes I hope it's fixed in the next update. Have you heard other people have this problem? can't seem to find many people with this problem. I would assume many people would have this issue.

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Thanks for your reply Asep,
I am running the same build number as you. Yes I hope it's fixed in the next update. Have you heard other people have this problem? can't seem to find many people with this problem. I would assume many people would have this issue.
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I haven't find same issues from other forums either hope next update can fix this, I have trying to clear cache but still no fixed.

asepuhuybok said:
I haven't find same issues from other forums either hope next update can fix this, I have trying to clear cache but still no fixed.
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Just updated to the July patch. Unfortunately still have the same problem. I guess we're just unlucky and it's somehow a hardware issue. I can't imagine that the rest of the pixel 3a owners have the same thing but aren't bothered by it. I read on reddit of one guy who was talking about blurry front camera, but after phone was replaced the problem was gone.

I've had the same problem! My build number is QQ2A.200501.001.B2. I just got a new Pixel 3a as the last camera just died, but it was also an issue on the previous Pixel 3a as well.

Any news on this? I've found several threads on Google support sites regarding this issue but they've ve all been closed without a solution. There must be more people with this issue though and I'm not sure at the moment if this is a hardware issue or not.
Since last night we're in a serious lockdown here in the Netherlands and this is becoming a dealbreaker, cause the front camera is our most used lifeline with friends and family.
I'm on RQ1A.201205.003 and using WhatsApp for video calls.
Edit: see for example this thread from Google support: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/63843045?hl=en