What's the bad? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Wow,,,, the touch pro forum is saturated with a wide variety of complaints! Can my fellow xda'ers tell me what is the Touch Pro's universal drawbacks? I know that most consider the screen to be a tad small. I think real user insights are much better than "Professional" reviews.

just sold my omnia and got a Touch Pro
I'm totally happy, this keyboard is awesome!

keyboard is the best, 5 rows including a row for numbers.... excellent.

I don't see that many complaints.

Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.

nickba said:
Here are the main problems with the Touch Pro:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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why won't HTC have a ROM update? They offered an update when diamond first came out, I hope they'd offer more updates as TP rolls out in more countries.

100% of that complaint can be fixed with a rom update, those aren't even that many complaints and remember the phone isnt even out yet in the US, most of those complaints originated from users in the US with unlocked european versions that were never meant to be used in the states. Now thats not to say the phone doesn't need work but all those problems could be fixed easily with an update.

I agree that all the complaints could be solved by a ROM update, but I am holding to use it as my primary phone, till a firmware update comes, but I am really disappointed with HTC support.
I am not an USA user...
And I am still using my old P1i as my primary phone, at least the camera works very well, the alarms always work and I don't need to reset it all the time as the Touch Pro.

So maybe the touch pro isn't a fat brick with a tiny screen, a lousy dpad, lagging GPS and half buggy apps? A good keyboard and a high res screen doesn't redeem these issues really.
I sure wish there were something better out there for us. So far a shocking 80% of users are happy.

I am over all very happy with mine, yes it is slow at times and buggy. It will get better over time. My iphone was rubbish I could not restore like I can with my pro. Also having the sat nav is fantastic. I use it purely for emailing, phone and sat nav nothing more and it does them all great.

Well I'm happy with my TP, helped me find this place and managed to pick some great advice and tips up on the way

I think how much you paid greatly affects your satisfaction with the phone. I was very happy with my Fuze, but not happy enough to keep it for the $1,000 I sold it for. When it comes out for $300, it will be well worth the money. It will even be worth the $550 it will sell for without contract with AT&T, but not $1,000.

the mentioned buggy issues in earlier posts are indeed a bit annoying. but overall it is a very nice and goodlooking phone. The keyboard is absolutly brilliant, specialy for me as a former HTC touch user. So, although i am waiting for some updates from HTC, i really am happy with this phone.

nickba said:
!- GPS lags!
2- Camera application is buggy! Slow zoom, touch and focus works only after a dumb picture, after some focuses the auto focus stops to work. I tested it with 3 phones.
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Either I don't have it or am not noticing it that much.
nickba said:
4- virtual keyboard(SIP) keeps popping up when using the real keyboard.
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There's a fix for that in that forum.
nickba said:
3- HTC don't replay to support emails and don't have a ROM update to fix these bugs.
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Why care for support emails when you have a great device?

Hey jamespaulritter, I've started a thread with most frequently TP issues (and solutions/work-around):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2645801
kocureq said:
Why care for support emails when you have a great device?
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Because TP out of the box has some annoying bugs. And the fix for this issues should come from htc.

I remember reading somewhere that the Earphone volume was very low and an issue. Surprised no one mentions that in this thread.
I am contemplating buying one once it is available in my country but I want to be doubly sure before I buy one because I will be using it as my primary phone.
I would love to hear your experiences.

Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.

Best Phone I've Ever Owned...can't Wait For The Hd!

I am very happy with my phone overall. All of the performance issues were solved with a few minor tweaks, I know I will find it even better once i get around to loading up a cooked ROM.
GPS does lag, but there seem to be a number of tweaks to help this and personally i find the gps does work, just not that well. My last phone didn't have a gps. Future roms and cooked roms alike will fix these minor issues, the phone hasn't even been out long, give people some time to work with it.

onderduiker said:
Most of the problems dissapear when I disabled touchflo, only thing still there is the gps-lag witch is a big problem.........so I am not very happy.
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That's definitely a software issue, my Fuze had the AT&T ROM and I can tell you it had no GPS lag at all. It was as good as any GPS unit I've ever used, no less a phone.

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[Q] HTC TOUCH 2 Sensitivity

Are There any '.cab' or Registry Edits that can help increase the sensitivity on my HTC Touch 2.
Many Thanks.
I have noticed that the HTC Touch 2 works much faster if the nail is used , but i guess that this is because it is more like a stylus , but as i really don't have the time to be taking out my stylus every-time i want to use my phone i would like to know if there is any other ways around it.
try with this:
fanty68 said:
try with this:
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Is it working fine?
Don't really think it will work. Sensitivity is influenced by the OS AND (!) the screen's abilities. I think that you can't really increase it. I can't say for sure though, I'll ask my dad for his Touch2 to try it out some time later.
hello
SunnyAutumn said:
Don't really think it will work. Sensitivity is influenced by the OS AND (!) the screen's abilities. I think that you can't really increase it. I can't say for sure though, I'll ask my dad for his Touch2 to try it out some time later.
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for me, not working
This really works. My Touch2 is now a lot more sensitive and is much easier to use. I recommend every one who uses a touch2, as the touchscreen sensitivity is very bad, to download and install this. It works perfectly. Before whenever I recieved a call, and attempted to answer it, clicking the answer button, it would never answer and it end-call. NOW IT WORKS PERFCTLY.
Thanks , it s really work
Thanks
its really works on HTC Touch VIVA
Hello!
Crazy but it works! nice!

Got my desire s today

Hi, I got my desire s today, I sold my dhd and got the desire s. It's rly good looking phone, and sense is faster than on dhd hope its rooted soon!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
Enjoy your new gadget ..
Please share your impressions..
Especially; earpiece & speaker sound quality, camera performance (especially macro shots and 720p video rec. performance..)
Desire S
I have it too, it's a great phone and I really like it so far. I have a bunch of videos on my YT channel showing off the features, so if you want to, check them out..
Because I am new I can't share links, but my username is WesTechnology in case you're interested
I got Mine As well ...
Its a Great Device - however the Device has 2 issues (hopefully they will Be fixes soon!).
- the videoplayback of the Videos taken by the Camcorder aplication are completley laggy-1 fps !
- i have Not managed to get videocalls working on the phone.
Has anyone expirience similar issues ? Is thereany workaround to solve Rhode issues ?
Regards
Papa
papabong said:
- the videoplayback of the Videos taken by the Camcorder aplication are completley laggy-1 fps !
- i have Not managed to get videocalls working on the phone.
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Videoplayback works completely fine for me.
Videcalls never were and probably never will be supported in Android.
wesjdj said:
I have it too, it's a great phone and I really like it so far. I have a bunch of videos on my YT channel showing off the features, so if you want to, check them out..
Because I am new I can't share links, but my username is WesTechnology in case you're interested
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Thanks Westech,
Great videos on your channel. For anyone who is interested, here is the link to Wes's channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/WesTechnology
Reason4444 said:
Enjoy your new gadget ..
Please share your impressions..
Especially; earpiece & speaker sound quality, camera performance (especially macro shots and 720p video rec. performance..)
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Here is a sample of a video recording from the new Desire S, I came across on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdZEcShoxk
papabong said:
Its a Great Device - however the Device has 2 issues (hopefully they will Be fixes soon!).
- the videoplayback of the Videos taken by the Camcorder aplication are completley laggy-1 fps !
- i have Not managed to get videocalls working on the phone.
Has anyone expirience similar issues ? Is thereany workaround to solve Rhode issues ?
Regards
Papa
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About the Video playback, I haven't had any problems at all. Maybe try freeing up the Ram?
Video calls are not supported by Android, but if you want to try it out you can use Tango (iOS, Android) or Skype
Wes
i really want to buy this device....but i think they need to drop the price a little
but what i am really worried about is everyone is obsessed with the upcoming dual-core phones & i am afraid we wont get a community as good as for the htc desire
what do you think guys? will the desire S get a good community ?
(& also can you guys tell me if there is any restarting issue or wifi issue?)
kartkk said:
i really want to buy this device....but i think they need to drop the price a little
but what i am really worried about is everyone is obsessed with the upcoming dual-core phones & i am afraid we wont get a community as good as for the htc desire
what do you think guys? will the desire S get a good community ?
(& also can you guys tell me if there is any restarting issue or wifi issue?)
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I can't comment on the community (as I can't see the future), but as I've got the phone now I really hope that one forms!
I also share your community concern, but hope that not everyone is obsessed with these larger tablet sized phones. (DHD etc...)
I've not had a single restart and the I've had the phone for over a week.
But, the wifi drop problem is real, I don't use the phone in landscape myself so its not that bad, but, I've seen the wifi signal strength fall when I place the phone on my leg when connected to wifi. I only use wifi on the phone when in my house where the signal strength is very good, so the drop doesn't ever cause me to fall off network. (read the tech radar review conclusion).
Battery life is ok even with multiple widgets and email accounts syncing all day and fair internet usage. currently getting about 20hrs...from full charge.
Still a great phone.
ben_pyett said:
I can't comment on the community (as I can't see the future), but as I've got the phone now I really hope that one forms!
I also share your community concern, but hope that not everyone is obsessed with these larger tablet sized phones. (DHD etc...)
I've not had a single restart and the I've had the phone for over a week.
But, the wifi drop problem is real, I don't use the phone in landscape myself so its not that bad, but, I've seen the wifi signal strength fall when I place the phone on my leg when connected to wifi. I only use wifi on the phone when in my house where the signal strength is very good, so the drop doesn't ever cause me to fall off network. (read the tech radar review conclusion).
Battery life is ok even with multiple widgets and email accounts syncing all day and fair internet usage. currently getting about 20hrs...from full charge.
Still a great phone.
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guess i will get the DS
since i use my wifi only in my house & is not a really big issue for me
any idea if sense will be updated on the s?
edit looks like its up to date but not from the first look
I got my Desire S yesterday for $400. It feels and runs smooth. It's a little small like a wildfire(I have an SGS i9000,Nexus One,Galaxy Spica i5700 and LG Optimus One). Good thing the N1 has almost the exact same screen so I used that as a screen guard. Battery isnt that great. My N1 and Galaxy S lasts for almost three days on normal to heavy use. Im happy with it.
where did you buy it from?
My friend got it for me in Singapore. I sold it. Screen too small and the camera wasn't that good. Got an LG Optimus Black now.
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Android 9/PIE update on S9+

I have successfully updated my S9+ to android 9 using Odin.I have used it for over a week now and the ONLY MAJOR issue is the inability to pair with my Samsung Galaxy S3 Frontier. I have several pictures of what Pie looks like on the s9+.
Oh and what about share some download link
Epic htc 1 said:
I have successfully updated my S9+ to android 9 using Odin.I have used it for over a week now and the ONLY MAJOR issue is the inability to pair with my Samsung Galaxy S3 Frontier. I have several pictures of what Pie looks like on the s9+.
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Only this soft is available on the American version of the G965U - Snapdragon Samsung Galaxy S9
MTAVALI said:
Oh and what about share some download link
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https://www.xda-developers.com/install-android-pie-beta-snapdragon-samsung-galaxy-s9/
MTAVALI said:
Oh and what about share some download link
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If you have never had any experience with ODIN or are afraid of turning your phone into a $1,000 paperweight then i strongly suggest leaving this to the pros.I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE NEGLIGENCE.
Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.
aaronisham95 said:
Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.
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Yikes!!!!
Wonder when we will get these leak builds for the exynos
aaronisham95 said:
Tell me about it. I introduced my younger brother to xda and he just got an s9. It's already worthless.
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Even since I started playing around with smart phones, I have never managed to completely brick a phone, especially new phones, how on earth do you fully brick one now days lol.
Is it have navigation gesture?
Fixxcr said:
Is it have navigation gesture?
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Yes it has but currently not working with the current builds
This is for snapdragon, correct?
fit333 said:
This is for snapdragon, correct?
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Yes, it is not suitable for European versions.
Can confirm working on s9+
Only problems I've had is Bluetooth car phone calls apparently sound like garbage to the other person and when the phone call ends it doesn't tell my car it's ended and when it resumes music it sounds like someone putting sound dampening material on my speakers. I have to turn my Bluetooth off and on again and it's fixed.
Also popup view isn't working correctly. The X at the top where you can drag the popup to dismiss it won't leave until you stop the process which is just a quick restart for me.
The original post says dual cameras isn't working yet but it does for me. I have normal and telephoto buttons in the camera app.
WiFi calling also doesn't work. Nor does device care.
I also feel like my Sprint LTE slowed quite a bit. Nothing loads nearly as fast on data.
Zoruda said:
Can confirm working on s9+
Only problems I've had is Bluetooth car phone calls apparently sound like garbage to the other person and when the phone call ends it doesn't tell my car it's ended and when it resumes music it sounds like someone putting sound dampening material on my speakers. I have to turn my Bluetooth off and on again and it's fixed.
Also popup view isn't working correctly. The X at the top where you can drag the popup to dismiss it won't leave until you stop the process which is just a quick restart for me.
The original post says dual cameras isn't working yet but it does for me. I have normal and telephoto buttons in the camera app.
WiFi calling also doesn't work. Nor does device care.
I also feel like my Sprint LTE slowed quite a bit. Nothing loads nearly as fast on data.
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This also just showed up today on my device, also I factory reset my device and my catche in recovery and everything works now,except the bluetooth issue that I'm also having in my car. I did see that there is a beta 3 out now to download. I will upload the file in about 3 hrs
Epic htc 1 said:
I will upload the file in about 3 hrs
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Please do!
does it work in the Brazilian version sm-g9560 with snapdragon 128gb / 6gb? thank you
Epic htc 1 said:
If you have never had any experience with ODIN or are afraid of turning your phone into a $1,000 paperweight then i strongly suggest leaving this to the pros.I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE NEGLIGENCE.
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Well it's not really sold for 1000 ... It's about 700 on Amazon. I bought mine for 600... In a year's time it will go for 500...refurbished 400 yet I don't think any X's will sell under a 1000....
still s9+ is not to be played with unstable Android from xda... It never will work as factory intended...
Anyone wanna play with Android's, buy xiaomi or oppo...
Anyhow, if u hold s9+ in hand vs xs, iPhone easily satisfy double the worth....
As I mentioned I feel hugely let down by Samsung's camera no matter what anyone reviewer say... Android is for geeks, iPhone is for people who want a dependable credible high a quality phone that no Android touches.... End of story
martin80k said:
Well it's not really sold for 1000 ... It's about 700 on Amazon. I bought mine for 600... In a year's time it will go for 500...refurbished 400 yet I don't think any X's will sell under a 1000....
still s9+ is not to be played with unstable Android from xda... It never will work as factory intended...
Anyone wanna play with Android's, buy xiaomi or oppo...
Anyhow, if u hold s9+ in hand vs xs, iPhone easily satisfy double the worth....
As I mentioned I feel hugely let down by Samsung's camera no matter what anyone reviewer say... Android is for geeks, iPhone is for people who want a dependable credible high a quality phone that no Android touches.... End of story
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Does that mean you will never post in these forums again?
Is it known when it will come out on the s9 + exynos version

Make POCO F1 stable

Instead of asking Xiaomi or the POCO team for more features, we should ask them to fix the basic issues such as touch issue(now it is only on the edges on my device with 8.12.27 firmware), and fix the notifications and hide notch options before moving onto new features like 60fps videos and such. It seems like the whole MIUI forum is filled with people asking for new features instead of making it stable.
Also can anyone comment on whether the touch is a hardware issue or a software one? Can it be fixed by devs of XDA?
itscooltime said:
Instead of asking Xiaomi or the POCO team for more features, we should ask them to fix the basic issues such as touch issue(now it is only on the edges on my device with 8.12.27 firmware), and fix the notifications and hide notch options before moving onto new features like 60fps videos and such. It seems like the whole MIUI forum is filled with people asking for new features instead of making it stable.
Also can anyone comment on whether the touch is a hardware issue or a software one? Can it be fixed by devs of XDA?
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it's hardware related, can be fix by software but the fix for some it's not equal to others, so hard to make a universal fix...
Can you clarify please ?
TioCareca said:
it's hardware related, can be fix by software but the fix for some it's not equal to others, so hard to make a universal fix...
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Hi, can you please guide to more info regd it's HW-related ? Thinking of buying one, but quite unclear what exactly going on with this issue.
Thanks in advance
maczpiku said:
Hi, can you please guide to more info regd it's HW-related ? Thinking of buying one, but quite unclear what exactly going on with this issue.
Thanks in advance
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Not really got an announcement for you to read, but if you search here in the forums you can see that different batches of the poco ( month of fabrication)(first batch even got screen bleeding) work better with some firmware versions and others work better with different firmware version, that is related that xiaomi is trying to fix the ghost touches by changing the way screen reacts to touch, but some batches work better in a way that make lag or ultra sensitive touch in others, that happens because the screen is not build the same way hence the "different" screens ...
Depending for what you will use the phone, that's not a really serious problem, noticeable more in some games...
Hope i explained myself good...q
Here are some testimony from users with different batches:
yoprateekyo said:
Touch issues are there in all the pocos except the latest batches now.
Touch issues are not severe are usable.
Some builds fixed half issues other created half.
If you wanna buy just buy you won't regret.
If touch gets perfect i am more than happy if not i can still live with it happily.
Rprpprrp ( i typed pr pr pr pr) this is issue.
But you will become habitual within a day or two. big deal.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Tp firmware is same for all.
But you have different touch panel than others.
Most of us have novatek which is sh*t.
You are lucky user.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Guys : Touch issue is real, face it or go for another model.
As per this thread suggest, even if you get newer touch screen panel, there is no 100 % guarantee that touch will work fine.
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Because : old panels all issues fixed from 8.11.23 beta to 8.12.20 beta, and in this period newer panels got issues.
So they reverted that fix in 8.12.27 beta. But then again same issues are back for old panels. And newer panels are good now.
Now old panel users are waiting for new update which includes 8.12.20 touch firmware.
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So Xiaomi has fix for everyone but they don't know proper way to implement it. ( recognising both users and applying fix upon it)
In coming days they will find it.
And everyone will be happy.
In worst case, you need to go service center for flashing new firmware with new bootloader which can recognize which panel you have.
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So, waiting is best way for it.
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mario123m said:
Oh that's interesting. Some people here claim that newer batches don't have the touch problem yet you seem to have the exact same issue as my unit which was assembled in July 2018. Full four months and the issue still there... That is why I don't believe there are Poco users who don't have this problem.
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rudge79 said:
Some things are a pattern: it involves all Poco f1 made in August 2018.
8.12.27 is the latest firmware we can use.
Any firmware which is more recent gives the black screen. So we must have a different display manufacturer.
The only solution I see is to update vendor and firmware without the display drivers.
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jineshpatel30 said:
From what i understood and feel by flashing almost every Pie beta & stable is, there are atleast 2 set of touch screen that Xiaomi used in POCO F1, so we are getting conflicting results/reviews in term of touch response.
So, if you try to satisfy ones for whom touch is good enough with Pie stable of current beta build other segment will cry-out loud with issue, if you go with older beta build like 8.12.20 then people like me whose device work good enough on stable Pie will face touch issue.
So, it's never ending game and Xiaomi should accept the hardware issue, replace & be done with it.
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Blurry front camera

I love my pixel 3a, even the front camera selfies (even though it has a fixed focus). The phone takes awesome pictures, also with the front camera.
However, during video call (whatsapp or snapchat), the video quality is very very very bad. I mean like there is water in the lens or something or it just can't focus or its trying to smooth out everything till infinity. I don't get how this is possible. I know android doesn't have the best social media camera (compared to iphone, which is better optimized), but my galaxy s8 is doing whatsapp and snapchat video's just fine and in focus.
Other people have experience with this? it's really a pity, because it's the only thing i really dislike at the moment.
Any help would be appreciated.
With kind regards
Bengaal
Bengaal said:
I love my pixel 3a, even the front camera selfies (even though it has a fixed focus). The phone takes awesome pictures, also with the front camera.
However, during video call (whatsapp or snapchat), the video quality is very very very bad. I mean like there is water in the lens or something or it just can't focus or its trying to smooth out everything till infinity. I don't get how this is possible. I know android doesn't have the best social media camera (compared to iphone, which is better optimized), but my galaxy s8 is doing whatsapp and snapchat video's just fine and in focus.
Other people have experience with this? it's really a pity, because it's the only thing i really dislike at the moment.
Any help would be appreciated.
With kind regards
Bengaal
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HI Bengal
Same issue with me, I'm hoping this issue is software of whatsapp app. should be fixed next update or next update Android 10.
What base model do you used? Mine is QQ3A.200605.002
Thanks!
Regards
Asep
asepuhuybok said:
HI Bengal
Same issue with me, I'm hoping this issue is software of whatsapp app. should be fixed next update or next update Android 10.
What base model do you used? Mine is QQ3A.200605.002
Thanks!
Regards
Asep
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Thanks for your reply Asep,
I am running the same build number as you. Yes I hope it's fixed in the next update. Have you heard other people have this problem? can't seem to find many people with this problem. I would assume many people would have this issue.
Bengaal said:
Thanks for your reply Asep,
I am running the same build number as you. Yes I hope it's fixed in the next update. Have you heard other people have this problem? can't seem to find many people with this problem. I would assume many people would have this issue.
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I haven't find same issues from other forums either hope next update can fix this, I have trying to clear cache but still no fixed.
asepuhuybok said:
I haven't find same issues from other forums either hope next update can fix this, I have trying to clear cache but still no fixed.
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Just updated to the July patch. Unfortunately still have the same problem. I guess we're just unlucky and it's somehow a hardware issue. I can't imagine that the rest of the pixel 3a owners have the same thing but aren't bothered by it. I read on reddit of one guy who was talking about blurry front camera, but after phone was replaced the problem was gone.
I've had the same problem! My build number is QQ2A.200501.001.B2. I just got a new Pixel 3a as the last camera just died, but it was also an issue on the previous Pixel 3a as well.
Any news on this? I've found several threads on Google support sites regarding this issue but they've ve all been closed without a solution. There must be more people with this issue though and I'm not sure at the moment if this is a hardware issue or not.
Since last night we're in a serious lockdown here in the Netherlands and this is becoming a dealbreaker, cause the front camera is our most used lifeline with friends and family.
I'm on RQ1A.201205.003 and using WhatsApp for video calls.
Edit: see for example this thread from Google support: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/63843045?hl=en

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