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Captivate Windows Phone 7 Port?

Someone apparently ported the Windows Mobile Phone 7 to an HTC.... Hopefully coming to a "Dual-Booting Samsung Captivate" near you?!
I would link it, but I'm apparently not allowed?

This doesn't belong in Development.

If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it

thejewhunter said:
If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it
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no need to bash on other OS because you prefer android. i'd love to see windows phone 7 on my captivate too. first impression doesn't mean anything, you have to play with an OS and knows what it has to offer and the feels of it to pass judgement.

thejewhunter said:
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LMAO +1 to that!

akachay said:
no need to bash on other OS because you prefer android. i'd love to see windows phone 7 on my captivate too. first impression doesn't mean anything, you have to play with an OS and knows what it has to offer and the feels of it to pass judgement.
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I'd be very interested in this. I actually REALLY, REALLY want a Windows Phone 7 device
I like my android, but, Phone 7 looks real nice

No support in the OS for hummingbird processors, if you want a port you would have to write that in. Thats why samsung used snapdragons in the focus and omnia 7.

Blah. 10 char

Having played with win phone 7, I actually like to do the opposite, can we put Android on a win 7 device? knowing windows sysreq, I'm sure it's pretty decent hardware...

Wait
I'm going to wait for Gingerbread, I know WP7 looks great, but I have a feeling that Gingerbread is going to look even better, so I'm going to wait until I have a peek at what it looks like.

+2 to that
Reefermattness said:
LMAO +1 to that!
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I agree with Reefermattness

+1
I know better to judge before I have had a month with the phone. Judgement shall be held until I actually have experience with the phone and os.. Pre judgement is kind of dumb, ios users do it to android all the time. Now people on android do it to wp7.
dirtyballoonot said:
I'd be very interested in this. I actually REALLY, REALLY want a Windows Phone 7 device
I like my android, but, Phone 7 looks real nice
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thejewhunter said:
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That made me LOL

cropythy said:
No support in the OS for hummingbird processors, if you want a port you would have to write that in. Thats why samsung used snapdragons in the focus and omnia 7.
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Exactly
Symmetric said:
Having played with win phone 7, I actually like to do the opposite, can we put Android on a win 7 device? knowing windows sysreq, I'm sure it's pretty decent hardware...
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If WP7 turns out to be a massive failure, or falls behind in the OS race, I bet we'll see it' Otherwise, I doubt it. Hacks will likely go to porting newer versions of WP7 instead. If they wanted android, they'd have bought it, since there are tons of high end android phones wherever they buy their wp7 devices.

I would LOVE to have Windows Phone 7 on this instead. It's basically Android, but with all of it's major problems address (and the introduction of some new ones, I'm sure). But the positives clearly outweigh the negatives... Google needs to take a lesson from Microsoft and make some big changes to Android. Namely, updates straight from them.
But it's not going to happen.

I think it can be done.
The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
So, Whos up for it?!

MikeyMike01 said:
I would LOVE to have Windows Phone 7 on this instead. It's basically Android, but with all of it's major problems address (and the introduction of some new ones, I'm sure). But the positives clearly outweigh the negatives... Google needs to take a lesson from Microsoft and make some big changes to Android. Namely, updates straight from them.
But it's not going to happen.
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How is it android? It's closer to iOS than android.
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The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
So, Whos up for it?!
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No, the focus is not. It's got the same internals basically as an older HTC like the Evo, not a hummbingbird.

carlosjcar said:
The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
So, Whos up for it?!
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no it only borrows the screen. it is spec'd as a snapdragon, not a hummingbird!
and why would anyone in there right mind want phone 7 if they can have android? why not just buy a focus with out dated hardware?
the hts phones running windows mobile are because the hd2 had a bootloader that could support multiple os's. i would like the bootloader ported so we can run multiple android roms like there are doing in the evo forum but id never install phone 7 or winmo 6.whatever from what im looking at the interface is so limited you might as well port iOS 2.2 because they are about the same.

Not going to happen. The hardware is too different, and unlike when you port Android to another piece of hardware, WP7 is not open source.
And yes, the Samsung Focus is NOT a Galaxy S in any way except for the Super AMOLED screen.

Dani897 said:
and why would anyone in there right mind want phone 7 if they can have android?
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Some people prefer things that work. Some people prefer getting the latest firmware at all times. Not this "let's wait 7 god damn months after FroYo is released before you actually get it" crap. Some people want a UI that isn't ugly, lag filled, and unintuitive.
It's not perfect, but for a first release it's pretty damn good.

Ubuntu to make mobile os version. Phone/tablet

Didn't see this anywhere, if it is sorry. This would be awesome though. I love android but ububtu if done correctly would be awesome.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-linux-heads-to-smartphones-tablets-and-smart-tvs/9834
(let's hope a couple of trolls don't jack this thread with "let's hope they don't steal from apple like android" or some other android hater rants.)
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I'm interested in this too!

That could be interesting. I'm a long time Ubuntu user but I recently stopped using it due to Gnome 3 / Unity- really not my cup of tea. I remember thinking at the time that it was better suited to smaller screens/tablets, so maybe that was the plan all along

Don't know how close android is to linux, think it uses a linux kernel, but it would be awesome if it could use android apps like I think blackberry's playback.
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I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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Of course.
I am already trying to get Ubuntu (console version) running on my already existing mobile phones.
For phones they would need to create a suitable gui and phone apps of course (phone book, dialer, etc.). Could be nice.

Don't see Ubuntu on my smartphone but it'll be awesome to install it on tablet.

This looks awesome! I can't wait to see the final product.

Looks nice, a good mobile Linux build not made by Nokia... Epic. I know many who want a real Linux phone.

Kailkti said:
I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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+1
i hate ubuntu 11.10.
and ubuntu would be cool on a phone. they would have to cut a deal with a phone company in order to do it, however. and HTC, samsung, LG... etc... they are already running a linux OS with android. it will be a long time before it is mainstream, and it would not have google supporting it (which would obviously have pros and cons) but i would stick with android simply because it is what i am used to at this point. ubuntu is more of a developer platform and it would basically just be bare bones on a phone. no market, hardly any apps, etc... it wouldn't give me the same experience i would want on a phone.

Kailkti said:
I've kinda lost faith in them since the 11.10 update. But maybe they will redeem themselves.
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You can change unity (the Ugly UI) with other things. XFCE & KDE are booth good choices.
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I hope ubuntu can take the lead of Meego and bring something good for real. Having a real linux with X11 is so practical. At lest for me.

neuTrue said:
You can change unity (the Ugly UI) with other things. XFCE & KDE are booth good choices.
Back to topic:
I hope ubuntu can take the lead of Meego and bring something good for real. Having a real linux with X11 is so practical. At lest for me.
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Oh no i am fine with the ui. Well not so much for it to be the reason I am disappointed. I am disappointed because the update brought many bugs and the system got slower, Atleast for me. It's just not efficient or functional as it should have been.
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And please bring freedom to our phones:
free to install any other operating system / mod
open bootloader of course
no way to brick it by flashing something wrong (simply as you can not brick your computer by installing linux)

Me too that is what open source is about anyway.

Kailkti said:
Oh no i am fine with the ui. Well not so much for it to be the reason I am disappointed. I am disappointed because the update brought many bugs and the system got slower, Atleast for me. It's just not efficient or functional as it should have been.
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I suggest you go with Archlinux or Gentoo (if you got more time) and no more you need to wait for upgrading your distro. Simple update and you are done.

neuTrue said:
I suggest you go with Archlinux or Gentoo (if you got more time) and no more you need to wait for upgrading your distro. Simple update and you are done.
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Thanks for the answer. But I just downgraded back to 11.04 when I experienced 11.10.

Kailkti said:
Thanks for the answer. But I just downgraded back to 11.04 when I experienced 11.10.
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Well, good luck in whatever you pick

bagers said:
And please bring freedom to our phones:
free to install any other operating system / mod
open bootloader of course
no way to brick it by flashing something wrong (simply as you can not brick your computer by installing linux)
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There's so much fail in this post. OS's are dependent on supported hardware, so you'll never have total freedom on OS choice. Bootloaders are always opened up within a month or two of a device being released, private party or otherwise. And yes, you can "brick" your PC if you are a numbskull and improperly load an OS or wipe critical files, it's just much simpler to recover. Phones lack an external keyboard, cd-rom drives, etc, so loading external recovery media or getting to a recovery point is more difficult.
FYI: One reason why carriers don't like users messing with mobile devices is because the majority are on contract extensions, so basically you pay a lowered subsidized cost on the phone in return for your business. This means that they have a vested financial interest in your mobile device. PC's, you buy outright. You don't go under contract to buy a new PC (except for credit card or financing, but they don't care what you buy, you just need to pay back).
As far as Ubuntu mobile, it's a great idea, but it's a pipe dream for at least the next 5 years. There's just too little support and mainstream use for that, and you have Ubuntu backing it, not "household" names like Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. PC's is a completely different target market than mobile devices.

more recent ubuntu isn't coded for armv6 but runs on armv7.
I read anything from lucid on up is only for armv7 or better.
my armv6 optimus v does a lovely job of running the full desktop armel debian squeeze (or sid) in a chroot; it just needs hardware drivers to straight-up boot debian instead of running it with android at the same time.
it wouldn't be that hard to release it as a mobile os, except for the proprietary drivers on all the different phones and tablets.

i hope we can install it on older WinMo hardware

Upcoming Windows 8 Tablet/Laptops (What about Android?)

As many of you probably know from the coverage at CES, a slew of manufacturers are coming out with Windows 8 laptops that will double as tablets too. For instance, Sony has a model in the making where the screen slides down to become essentially a tablet. Another one is Lenovo, with a laptop where the screen turns all the way around to become a tablet. The one and only problem with these offerings is Windows 8. Sure, I welcome Windows 8 as a laptop OS, I've always used Windows. But when it comes to a phone/tablet OS, I don't really find any Windows offering that intriguing. I dread the thought of leaving Android and ending up with two seperate OS's and sets of apps and such on my phone and tablet. I'm sure as heck not moving to a windows phone anytime soon either.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/26...o-tablet-prototypes-future-windows-8-hardware
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/26...-windows-8-laptop-that-bends-backwards-into-a
So my questions are, do you guys think some devs will find a way to dual boot Android onto some of these devices? What will you buy for your phone, laptop, and tablet? I've read a few articles where some manufacturers are going to ship out their devices with BOTH Android and Windows 8, but I can't seem to find where I read that, and I don't believe any of the big name manufacturers were the ones doing it.

Android will at least be able to run in a virtual box, likely more. However, android's presence in the tablet market is... Underwhelming at best.

z33dev33l said:
Android will at least be able to run in a virtual box, likely more. However, android's presence in the tablet market is... Underwhelming at best.
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But right now, Windows 8 looks like a bastard child as a tablet OS. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll have to wait and see until it can be auditioned in person. The fact of the matter is that Android has most the market share for phones. People are going to want the same OS on their tablet for the sake of simplicity and not having to learn a whole new OS and buy a whole new set of apps. I'm hoping some of the big names catch on and send the devices with both Android and Win8. That would be a win-win for both the manufacturer and consumer IMO.

I'm looking forward to seeing what android can do once there's more ICS tablets as far as an ecosystem goes, I still think there's a lot of games and programs that they'll lack opposed to the 15+ years of PC games. I'm shocked that there's not a WoW client for android. Despite disliking WoW, it's not very resource heavy and it is massively popular.

I'm still convinced in the end, Win8 will be a hit.

I Am Marino said:
I'm still convinced in the end, Win8 will be a hit.
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I'm excited to have it on my laptop, but I'm not so sure about on a tablet. I hate the thought of having two seperate OS's on my phone and tablet. Viewsonic made a tablet about a year ago that shipped with the ability to dualboot into win7 and android. I hope Sony and others go for that idea...
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tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...

2020legig said:
tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...
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I don't think they can do worst than Vista

The introduction of the Tablet and the continued development of the phone has given consumers more choice, but has also led to more name confusion.
The Tablet is like a Net-book without a keyboard and is a good name because it doesn't include the name of any particular device or application. For example, you can use a Tablet for making phone calls or taking pictures without having to call it a phone or a camera. A Tablet can be any size, for the name just describes the shape and not it's use, though it is generally accepted as being a multi-function device. So keyboard less smart phones can be called Tablets.
Adding a detachable keyboard to a Tablet makes it better for those applications where a keyboard and extra battery and Ports are useful .
So given these extra choices the consumer has to decide which suits them best.

2020legig said:
tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...
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How can anything be worse than Windows ME? My machine I got when ME came out blue screened right out of the box and needed to be restored. ^_^
I think it really depends on the productivity software available for Android and iOS when Windows 8 tablets/laptops start rolling out. I'm running into a lot of people who want to use tablets instead of laptops for their on-the-go work/computing needs.

Really not feeling Windows 8 at all, I think it'll struggle to outdo 7.
However, there will always be people who jump to get the "latest and greatest" software/hardware so I'm sure it'll do fine

Somewhere I read you could turn off the metro style (tiles) of windows 8. But let's face it, touch integration is the way for the future and I read laptops are moving towards both touch screen with the keyboard and trackpad with optional mouse. But to the user referring to tablets attached to keyboard docks. I think these will be much more than that. I think they will have more power than let's say an Asus transformer with a keyboard dock (glorified netbook). Thus I think these will lean more toward the laptop end, just thinner. At least that's what I hope.
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[Q] TF700

Does anyone know if its possible to have a windows based OS on the TF700.... ive tried to find answers to this but wasnt successful in the search.... my quess is no due to it being more of a hardware issue rather than a software one... Anyone care to comment , more than welcome.. . Thanks

Mixation said:
Does anyone know if its possible to have a windows based OS on the TF700.... ive tried to find answers to this but wasnt successful in the search.... my quess is no due to it being more of a hardware issue rather than a software one... Anyone care to comment , more than welcome.. . Thanks
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We've had this one pass us a few times already, and the consensus seems to be 'no'. Especially Windows 8 is tied to the devices it is specifically marketed on, and cannot be ported to our 700.
I'd like the option myself, too, but you'd have to go Taichi or Book Transformer to get Windows and the rest of the Transformer advantages... (You'll lose the superior battery life of Android in the process, making it a much less compelling package, in my opinion.)

MartyHulskemper said:
We've had this one pass us a few times already, and the consensus seems to be 'no'. Especially Windows 8 is tied to the devices it is specifically marketed on, and cannot be ported to our 700.
I'd like the option myself, too, but you'd have to go Taichi or Book Transformer to get Windows and the rest of the Transformer advantages... (You'll lose the superior battery life of Android in the process, making it a much less compelling package, in my opinion.)
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I appreciate the quick response/feedback ... I love the 700 an what it brings to the table... I just miss the Windows OS feel at times ... Maybe if I have it unlocked/rooted I will get more out of it

Mixation said:
I just miss the Windows OS feel at times ...
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I know what you mean. Though I miss the XP feel, not the new versions. Luckily there's Splashtop, but it's not the same. There are just some things that Windows has that Android doesn't which I can not find words to explain. (errors are part of its charm! ) A taskbar and lots of windows, for one.
But no, as MartyHulskemper said, the new mobile Windows OS can't be ported to the Infinity. No hardware support for it.
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Since it's an Arm based device using win7/8 is impossible. A huge reason why I hate arm. It is dividing the market further making it harder on developers and consumers. But windows rt is arm based and can be put on the tf700 (theoretically). No one has done it but it can be done. I would jot do it though because it is watered down because of the arm processor and it cannot use x86/64 applications.
If you want a good desktop experience and know at least how to use linux go to the dual boot thread in this general section.
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Poll: Windows RT Ports

Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.

bfosterjr said:
Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Still finding value for ports since I just downgraded back to 8.0... Until 8.1 is jailbroken I am still interested in 8.0..

Heck yes. You're doing amazing work and benefiting the entire community with it.

One program I would like ported is the game Osu! It is perfect for tablets and I wish it was ported to the RT platform.

Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.

bartekxyz said:
Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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Im pretty sure there are quite a bit of people who care. Don't expect recognition from the work you've done. Just be glad you made an app that someone can use. Don't ruin it for the people who want more programs ported to the RT platform.

MS is still locking windows rt.desktop app for windows rt is game over.next time I prefer atom based tablet.I will say good bye to metro only device.

bartekxyz said:
Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.

netham45 said:
For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.
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You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.

bartekxyz said:
You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.
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My bad, I misread the username who posted it.
As far as what I see you've posted, I believe all I've used was PrBoom.
That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community, and I'm sure that others greatly value the work you're doing. I know I do.

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That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community....
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Agreed. I've noticed that the most download ports have been Quake and Quake 2. Sadly, a bit of the hype died down by the time the DX9 runtime was found and Quake3 was ported. I realize they're not "ground breaking games".. but they're probably the most influential games which just _need_ to be ported before the platform gets any attention. I know early on there was an effort to have a package manager idea floated around to more easily allow people using the Jailbreak to more 'easily' get apps. I'm wondering if something like that would help boost interest again? Any other ideas?
I've certainly noticed a decline in interest the last couple months. I wasn't sure if people lost interest in Jailbroken related apps.. or if Windows RT is just dying a slow death in general. Hence the poll. I've certainly got more apps I'd like to port.. but it does take significant effort sometimes.. and there only seems to be few others contributing apps.

I dont own an RT device but I do love seeing the work that you guys put in to make this platform viable. I dont see myself getting an RT device until they are substantially cheaper than their x86 counterparts and either microsoft pull the chokes out so we can have unregulated access to run our own applications or I can have linux on it and neither of those are likely to happen. Linux on there would be very attractive to me personally.
The work you guys do though is probably the only thing keeping RT useful. I love the idea of RT, but its been poorly executed. In my opinion for RT to be successful it needs to be the full windows 8 experience on ARM, no limitations for drivers and software, OpenGL (well ES would be an acceptable limitation given the hardware) and the whole shebang.
I think MinGW for ARM will probably help the scene a little more. Once its out there then thats a huge ecosystem of software which might well be portable to run on the RT. Even better would be MinGW for ARM running on ARM but I think with MinGW being able to compile itself that its a given you will have that.

I'm still interested, but it is diminishing over time - running 8.1 now so no JB, using the device more and more as an actual productivity device and less as a fun hacking toy, more apps available, etc...
I've not done any ports in a while (real life cutting into hack time) but I did a couple. Was very fun

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Especially since mamiach's newly uncovered hole in Asus VivoTabs, it seems like an 8.1 exploit will be feasible in the future once 8.1 is officially finalized. So your ports are just as valuable as ever - thanks a ton for all your hard work!
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killer app
so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?

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so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?
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Chrome.
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Chrome.
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GoodDayToDie was attempting chromium (open source chrome) but my understanding is that it was a huge code base for him to try himself.

Pretty much, yep. I'm going to try again with the new release that's based on their new engine. Some stuff, like the sandbox, still will not work; I'm not going to re-write all their API hooking assembly in THUMB-2 until I find myself way lower on number of projects than I have right now - and for the first release I'm also going to probably go with interpreted JS instead of JIT compiled, so it will be a lot slower. Most of the other features (screw NaCl) should work, though.

I am super grateful for the work you guys have put in. I imagine MiniGW is hindering the breadth of things that can be ported. I know the game I am looking for Ultrastar Deluxe (Open Source Singstar) would get a heap of use from me if I could get it on the Surface RT.

another "killer-app" would be VLC-Player With all These super codecs