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HTC are reviewing the locked bootloader policy

Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
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LeeDroid said:
Just thought I would dive in and drop a link for anyone that is yet to comment..
And yes, it does belong in the dev section
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
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SO what does this imply

If they lock them down.. its the end of custom roms and kernels on HTC devices
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the facebook post is so generic, and definitely unconvincing

LeeDroid said:
If they lock them down.. its the end of custom roms and kernels on HTC devices
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But isn't that what expert dev's like your self do....find ways to unlock things Isn't everything hackable eventually.....!!!

At least they didn't say [email protected]%k you to us like MOTO did
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If the boot loader gets locked its not impossible to flash custom roms. I'm sure the DEVs here can find a work around. I came from a Sony X10 and the boot loader is locked on that device. The DEV's in the X10 forum were able to get a working CWM to flash different rom's, themes, etc. It would be challenging, but very doable..

S.Reno9 said:
But isn't that what expert dev's like your self do....find ways to unlock things Isn't everything hackable eventually.....!!!
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Well the public key encryption used for signing can be theoretically broken but it takes centuries of brute force. More likely, someone will find a way to bypass the signature checking in the hardware somehow. You only have to flip one bit to make a "if x ..." turn into a "if not x ...", you just have to find the right place and a way to flip it.

It definitely puts a downer on devs willing to work with the phone...

Definitely something they should leave alone. Although HTC clearly knows how to make great mobile devices (in contrast to Samsung, for instance; Sense is light years better than that RFS Touchwiz crap) it's not smart to try to shackle the Android dev community. They will loose market share if they lock the bootloaders.
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HTC already locks the bootloaders on all their devices but this is referring to HTC reviewing if they are going to start unlocking them again or not

Ah, kinda what I thought till I read this post. So, I'll say that it would be better for them to unlock bootloaders.
cordell507 said:
HTC already locks the bootloaders on all their devices but this is referring to HTC reviewing if they are going to start unlocking them again or not
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When I saw this on android central it seemed to imply to opposite. In response to outcries over the locked bootloaders on the EVO 3D they were considering unlocked them.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-were-reviewing-our-bootloader-policy
HTC's statement:
"Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback."

I figure if from now on if all phones are locked down...I'll just stick with what I have so I can keep modding them.
So far the Inspire has been a great phone and my Streak is definately in great shape.
Soon as DJ Steve ports over Honeycomb for the Streak 5...it'll be as good as any out there on the market. Maybe not as fast, but will do the job.

that's what i was thinkin i might just get off the train at the inspire and be done with it

Lol at the third comment. "What are boot loaders!" Lol
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There must be pressure from the 3rd party software contributors to ensure their product is forced on and STAYS on the phone.. I can see no reason else for the locked bootloader.. HTC's are extremely difficult to perm-brick, and with RUU's available they are easily fixable.. If they where open about it, put some damned documentation with it and a failsafe return method, they wouldnt have to worry about warranty issues, and even if it did it MUST be a more expensive proposition to create or license a method of locking the bootloader that wont be defeated in 10 minutes.. not to mention the hit they would take on revenue even if it is only around 2-5%...
I guess its all about the advertising dollars and who pays who..
sickening really..
Hail the AOSP builds...

Cell providers don't want me/you deleting their apps or enabling features on your/my device without paying...tethering for example. It's a numbers game and to them its just business.
They care less about battery life, they want you to buy aftermarket batts from them. they want you/me to pay for every kb/mb/gb we use.
That's the bottom line.
Aside from all that...they don't want it getting out just how crappy their product is. Unless your Motorola.

???
Not sure what this post is suppose to prove. The statement by HTC only states they are looking into the situation concerning the bootloader policy, but doesn't specify what their intentions are. A generic statement at best. For all we know, this could be just another Fakebook post. Until I hear or see an official statement, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
BTW, I've seen no posts on my Facebook by HTC about this...just sayin...

if they start locking down the bootloaders i WILL go to samsung, as much as i love htc

Htc has done it

http://htcdev.com/ this says it all
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It'd be interesting to see if or how this is useful for our developers.
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"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.

I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...

I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.

nrfitchett4 said:
I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
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my thoughts exactly, which is what im sure will come of this though, sacrifice 1 or 2 to figure it out for the rest!

Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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BoulderGeek said:
"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
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They released the OpenSense SDK today...

They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.

eraursls1984 said:
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.

EmmVeePee said:
I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
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My problems must have been user error, the power button was sticking and it was recessed into the phone, another one had a messed up audio jack, the next had the same issue and this one has the audio jack issue as well just not as bad and this new one also has random reboots even on the new OTA GB radio, the last three only had reboots on froyo radios.

Zalatorisaurus said:
Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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The Evo3D has s-off via AlphaRev and Unrevoked's Revolutionary tool....
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Milimbar said:
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
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They always release the source to the kernel, just not always right away. It was posted before on http://developer.htc.com

They'll unlock the bootloader to the evo 3d and sensation but not the tbolt. Their unlocking tool will require you to provide them with your device information to void your warranty. Only good I see is developers might be able to use the tool to unlock other devices like the tbolt and future devices without having to provide htc with any of your phones information.
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mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking

queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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On top of that from what I have been reading it is somewhat limiting when compared to s-off. No hboot, radio, or splash1 flashing. Last I heard kernels had to be fastbooted on. There is probably more I don't know about. Voids your warranty and you can't even switch around to find what radio works best for you. Unlocked my a$$!!
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yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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How come when you go to htcdev.com no verizon phones are listed for unlocking bootloader including the thunderbolt? I wouldn't use the site anyways but trust me when I say no verizon phone will appear on that site, carriers own manufacturers and verizon hates unlocked/rooted/modified phones on their network!
Also thanks for the troll comment in flattered!
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queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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I've been saying that since day one when HTC announced these "plans". I think Verizon has enough "pull" with HTC to make sure none of 'their' phones will be supported.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Glad to see you can read.... From HTC's website for this, they clearly state
You asked for it, we delivered. Use this tool to install custom firmware on selected HTC Android devices.
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I bolded and italicized the important parts since you missed them the first time.
Further, from their FAQ on this subject:
Will all HTC devices be unlocked?
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.
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Chainfire Finds Actually Working Galaxy S 4 Root Method

Often times in the world of media, the first to the story gets to claim they were first. They get the worm, and they get the page views. And we won’t say that page views aren’t great; they are. They end up helping to pay the bills that mount when you grow. The obvious downside to that, is often times that same media outlet can fall victim to their own success, and in turn report on things that aren’t actually real. We’ve done it before, and we’ve had to step up and admit it.
At XDA, we take pride in the fact that most of the mobile development news originates here. We are the source that all others report on. We also take pride in the fact that while we may not be the first to the news, we endeavor to report the real story after it’s been tried, tested, and verified. After all, we are the source.
Recently, news went around the internet that the new darling of the mobile world, the Samsung Galaxy S 4, had been rooted prior to its release. Generally that is great news, but in this case the person who did the “rooting” didn’t have the device to test the process. In many cases, like previous versions of the Galaxy series, that is OK because the way to root Samsung devices has been the same via repacking Samsung’s firmware package with su and then flashing via ODIN. While that old way worked, it doesn’t work on the new S4 as XDA Recognized Developer Odia proved in a thread similar to the original “root” thread.
What is different about the S 4 is that Samsung utilizes a new security feature to enable BYOD to make the S 4 more palatable for the Enterprise customers, and that feature is Samsung Knox. Without going into a lot of detail, Knox effectively isolates your personal side of the device from your companies private side.
XDA Elite Recognized Developer Chainfire began toying with the Qualcomm version of the Galaxy S 4 (GT-I9505) back in early March, and immediately began to have issues with the “tried and true” process for rooting previous Galaxy devices. He noticed that while you could “inject” the su binary into the firmware, the device would immediately reboot when that same binary was executed.
After much testing, Chainfire figured out a way to root the device using his tried-and-true CF-Auto-Root process and posted the method in this thread. Be warned that this currently only works on the GT-I9505 (Qualcomm LTE) version of the S4, with Odia finding that there are issues with the Exynos 5 Octa version. As is always the case, be warned that there is a risk in performing any procedure such as this on your device. Let’s hope that Samsung hasn’t decided to really turn their noses up at the development community.

1. This is old news my friend
2. You straight copied and pasted from XDA's homepage, at least cite your source
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Awesome, chainfire is a boss.
One more reason to get the SD600. Poor exynos is going to fall short in development
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doktor buknasty said:
1. This is old news my friend
2. You straight copied and pasted from XDA's homepage, at least cite your source
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For me it was a new news .
And yes i did copied, so whats the big deal.:silly:
I posted in thread so that guys like me who dint knew it before, will come to know about it.

This time around, Samsung's approach is reminding me of an good old un-hackable Symbian S60v3/v5 devices, Sammy is quickly going in that direction, i will not be surprised when Samsung's devices will be "un-rootable" soon, especially their Exynos chipset's closed sources is clear evidence of what is coming Happy flashing guys

Alipk52 said:
This time around, Samsung's approach is reminding me of an good old un-hackable Symbian S60v3/v5 devices, Sammy is quickly going in that direction, i will not be surprised when Samsung's devices will be "un-rootable" soon, especially their Exynos chipset's closed sources is clear evidence of what is coming Happy flashing guys
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Ho its not true
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Squirrel1620 said:
Awesome, chainfire is a boss.
One more reason to get the SD600. Poor exynos is going to fall short in development
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Exynos will bee rooted from Chainfire
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Zahid Ali said:
Ho its not true
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Indeed not true, but there are some evidence of samsung approach

Alipk52 said:
Indeed not true, but there are some evidence of samsung approach
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But i think no matter what happens, our devs will still find a trick to root the device.

Chainfire words he will root 9500 and 9505
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muhamet said:
Chainfire words he will root 9500 and 9505
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He surely will. He is a man of his words.

Rahil S said:
He surely will. He is a man of his words.
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Talked to a friend who sat through a Samsung presentation today about their new devices and the Knox technology. It sounds like they're trying to have an extremely secure device configuration possible - one which might not be rootable and if it was rootable, it'd be fixed pretty quickly.
But from, http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox:
In addition, Samsung Knox's Secure Boot technology allows the switch of the secure boot root certificate in a secure manner after the devices are shipped. As a result, customers that have high security requirements can purchase regular consumer devices and switch the root-of-trust used for secure boot to better protected ones.
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It sounds like they don't intend to ship all the devices locked down. Hopefully the carriers don't get any genius ideas about this...
From what I read of this thread and others rooting the S4, what has been rooted is a non-Knox'd device. They seem to be switching that stuff on and off during the pre-release tweaking.

This community has ran its course

Most custom rom flashers seem to last 6 mobths on a particular phone. The first bunch defected to the the Note 2 and the last bunch to the Galaxy S4.
Now i feel like i a droid charge owner after the galaxy nexus release. :thumbdown:
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Did you see hyperdrive just had a major update? I admit it has slowed down but we still have a few options left.
Also beans is going to update (if it hasn't already)
There is also a wip for sense 5 for our phones.
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.

Idk about any further, but we'll see 4.2.2 tw for sure I think. I believe I read they're working on it but delayed. Dev work has been better with this than my old phone(droid 3).
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SlimSnoopOS said:
What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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a little bit of this
jmxc23 said:
Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
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a little bit of that

My phone runs way faster then my friend's S4...
Reaching perfection is a bad thing?
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I personally don't feel the sg4 is worth the upgrade, it should be called the sg3+
not too mention it's getting locked down hard..

That is the primary reason why people are still buying the S3.

Yes. Go buy an s4 asap. Development is currently sky rocketing...
Like others have said, this is an unnecessary thread. A bunch of AOSP roms have active nightlies and several TW roms are also being updated. The problem with TW roms are that once you get everything put into them, there's not much more you can do. The code is based off Samsung source so everything is already there. the only thing there is to do is rebase when a new ota comes out.
Go try out an AOSP rom. They really run well on the s3.

Lol AOSP is still booming on the HTC incredible 2. I think that we'll see stuff for much longer since the inc2 with as old and outdated as it is, its still rocking over there.
I'm loving this phone, there's something new everyday for it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!

razz1 said:
All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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THIS . very well said sir. :good:

The HTC One may slow down development when it comes, I for one will be getting that phone. I will still be keeping my SG3 tho. (will be the first phone I actually keep rather than sell to buy new phone, I really love this phone)

It was the Galaxy S III community - and its massive, relevant history + recent topics here - which gave me enough how-tos, tools + what-if ideas that led to my:
1. Bringing a relative's phone back from a watery death
2. Rooting + installing a custom recovery on the resurrected, stock and locked phone - despite it no longer accepting touch screen input (i.e., hardware short was evident on the display connector across at least two pins)
3. Pulling 1.5 years of photos and videos + app settings from the partially crippled phone, making its owner rather ecstatic
It was an AT&T GSIII, but it information - much of it active threads - gleaned across the XDA Galaxy S III provider topics helped me finally do the above.
Heck, when I gave away my HTC Droid Incredible not long ago, even that model still had active ROM development happening.
- ooofest

ricecake2000 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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djwalter said:
Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Ah yes but they did kill the droid x. I can assume we may see an update that will do the same. So watch out.
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Just don't ever take an ota, problem solved.
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djwalter said:
Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Yessir that would be me who did the testing for the Rezound for S-OFF with the Unlimited.IO crew

Email the President of Samsung

As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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42freelancer said:
As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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Samsung gained too much market share and isn't trying to applease the minority. They did this with the s6 sd card slot removal and sales drop but didn't learned their lesson. Money talks, do but the next samsung device and let them know why.
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I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter

BR7fan said:
I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
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I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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42freelancer said:
I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here

rtoledo2002 said:
Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
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You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9

Well if everyone has given up on the Qualcomm version of the S7, then there is no need for this thread. I've seen quite a bit of activity in the Exynos variant threads. Has anyone checked to see if tmobile can be run on it? I'd fork out the cash for one if it were a smart move.
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BR7fan said:
You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again

S-off means literally security off which means your bootloader is unlocked.
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rtoledo2002 said:
thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
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It'll allow you to install updated firmware for your phone

F Samsung, last one. I'm butt hurt, to the level of stiches.
sent from my bootloader locked $700 SM-G930T.

I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.

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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Source?

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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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I'd like a source as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.

AceDaMack said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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42freelancer said:
Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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This also looks promising.
https://mobile.twitter.com/laginimaineb/status/737051964857561093

dogswind said:
I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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I just gave that phone back. Can't see the screen with sunglasses on unless it's sideways. The flow of everything didn't make any sense to me and I didn't find the camera halfway special. Just my opinion andexperience. I had the phone 2 days before giving it back.
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42freelancer said:
Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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We need a good development to test this out plz, thanx in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page35