Often times in the world of media, the first to the story gets to claim they were first. They get the worm, and they get the page views. And we won’t say that page views aren’t great; they are. They end up helping to pay the bills that mount when you grow. The obvious downside to that, is often times that same media outlet can fall victim to their own success, and in turn report on things that aren’t actually real. We’ve done it before, and we’ve had to step up and admit it.
At XDA, we take pride in the fact that most of the mobile development news originates here. We are the source that all others report on. We also take pride in the fact that while we may not be the first to the news, we endeavor to report the real story after it’s been tried, tested, and verified. After all, we are the source.
Recently, news went around the internet that the new darling of the mobile world, the Samsung Galaxy S 4, had been rooted prior to its release. Generally that is great news, but in this case the person who did the “rooting” didn’t have the device to test the process. In many cases, like previous versions of the Galaxy series, that is OK because the way to root Samsung devices has been the same via repacking Samsung’s firmware package with su and then flashing via ODIN. While that old way worked, it doesn’t work on the new S4 as XDA Recognized Developer Odia proved in a thread similar to the original “root” thread.
What is different about the S 4 is that Samsung utilizes a new security feature to enable BYOD to make the S 4 more palatable for the Enterprise customers, and that feature is Samsung Knox. Without going into a lot of detail, Knox effectively isolates your personal side of the device from your companies private side.
XDA Elite Recognized Developer Chainfire began toying with the Qualcomm version of the Galaxy S 4 (GT-I9505) back in early March, and immediately began to have issues with the “tried and true” process for rooting previous Galaxy devices. He noticed that while you could “inject” the su binary into the firmware, the device would immediately reboot when that same binary was executed.
After much testing, Chainfire figured out a way to root the device using his tried-and-true CF-Auto-Root process and posted the method in this thread. Be warned that this currently only works on the GT-I9505 (Qualcomm LTE) version of the S4, with Odia finding that there are issues with the Exynos 5 Octa version. As is always the case, be warned that there is a risk in performing any procedure such as this on your device. Let’s hope that Samsung hasn’t decided to really turn their noses up at the development community.
1. This is old news my friend
2. You straight copied and pasted from XDA's homepage, at least cite your source
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Awesome, chainfire is a boss.
One more reason to get the SD600. Poor exynos is going to fall short in development
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doktor buknasty said:
1. This is old news my friend
2. You straight copied and pasted from XDA's homepage, at least cite your source
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For me it was a new news .
And yes i did copied, so whats the big deal.:silly:
I posted in thread so that guys like me who dint knew it before, will come to know about it.
This time around, Samsung's approach is reminding me of an good old un-hackable Symbian S60v3/v5 devices, Sammy is quickly going in that direction, i will not be surprised when Samsung's devices will be "un-rootable" soon, especially their Exynos chipset's closed sources is clear evidence of what is coming Happy flashing guys
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This time around, Samsung's approach is reminding me of an good old un-hackable Symbian S60v3/v5 devices, Sammy is quickly going in that direction, i will not be surprised when Samsung's devices will be "un-rootable" soon, especially their Exynos chipset's closed sources is clear evidence of what is coming Happy flashing guys
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Ho its not true
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Awesome, chainfire is a boss.
One more reason to get the SD600. Poor exynos is going to fall short in development
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Exynos will bee rooted from Chainfire
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Ho its not true
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Indeed not true, but there are some evidence of samsung approach
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Indeed not true, but there are some evidence of samsung approach
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But i think no matter what happens, our devs will still find a trick to root the device.
Chainfire words he will root 9500 and 9505
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Chainfire words he will root 9500 and 9505
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He surely will. He is a man of his words.
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He surely will. He is a man of his words.
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Talked to a friend who sat through a Samsung presentation today about their new devices and the Knox technology. It sounds like they're trying to have an extremely secure device configuration possible - one which might not be rootable and if it was rootable, it'd be fixed pretty quickly.
But from, http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox:
In addition, Samsung Knox's Secure Boot technology allows the switch of the secure boot root certificate in a secure manner after the devices are shipped. As a result, customers that have high security requirements can purchase regular consumer devices and switch the root-of-trust used for secure boot to better protected ones.
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It sounds like they don't intend to ship all the devices locked down. Hopefully the carriers don't get any genius ideas about this...
From what I read of this thread and others rooting the S4, what has been rooted is a non-Knox'd device. They seem to be switching that stuff on and off during the pre-release tweaking.
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THE REASON WE ARE HAVING SO MANY ISSUES PORTING DIFFERENT ROMS FOR THIS DEVICE IS BECCAUSE OURS AND THE I.S HAS HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES. Read ME: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
HTC's goal was to give us a hard time developing for this device!
READ ME:http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/:
Your second link is dead but I agree that HTC is building their own coffin at this point. That's one of the main reasons why i returned my Atrix. If we buy your device we should be able to freely modify as we see fit!
How does this affect the TB now? Aren't we already past this security with S-OFF and CWM installed?
R.I.P H.T.C
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YES BUT A SOURCE FROM HTC THAT WILL REMAIN UN NAMED. TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES IN THIS DEVICE THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T KEEP SU RUNNING SMOOTH...
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Jaywan said:
THE REASON WE ARE HAVING SO MANY ISSUES PORTING DIFFERENT ROMS FOR THIS DEVICE IS BECCAUSE OURS AND THE I.S HAS HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES. Read ME: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
HTC's goal was to give us a hard time developing for this device!
READ ME:http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/:
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I'm sure it's Verizon behind this, and not HTC doing it by choice. It is in HTC's best interest to just follow Big Red's wishes, and it doesn't appear that they are locking things down in the same way that Motorola is these days. Aside from the "locked" bootloader and memory, what hidden security features are we running into?
Probably not HTC at all.. They are probably just filling a requirement. Its probably the carriers in reality and they need to create products that meet their customers requests.... Verizon, ATT etc and we are their customers. After all they want to make $20 for tethering etc. More they can lock down more they can charge..
So much for Android being "open" forever....
The bootloader hasn't been an issue since basically day 1.
I have a hard time believing there's mysterious secret features in the phone that give us a hard time modding it.
HTC could have gone the Motorola route and encrypted the bootloader, but they didn't.
I haven't had any issues with su.
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YES BUT A SOURCE FROM HTC THAT WILL REMAIN UN NAMED. TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES IN THIS DEVICE THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T KEEP SU RUNNING SMOOTH...
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Hardware based? I'm not an expert but once the kernel source is available wont we have access the all the code meaning we would see any hidden landmines?
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YES BUT A SOURCE FROM HTC THAT WILL REMAIN UN NAMED. TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES IN THIS DEVICE THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T KEEP SU RUNNING SMOOTH...
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I've ran 4 ROM's on my Thunderbolt and since updating to the newest SU I have not had 1 issue with it running smooth...
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Probably not HTC at all.. They are probably just filling a requirement. Its probably the carriers in reality and they need to create products that meet their customers requests.... Verizon, ATT etc and we are their customers. After all they want to make $20 for tethering etc. More they can lock down more they can charge..
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Ive seen the tethering argument made before but I don't see how that would affect anything. Even devices with high security and a signed bootloader can be rooted to allow free tethering, a custom rom is not needed for this. Are there any devices that haven't been at least rooted?
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I've ran 4 ROM's on my Thunderbolt and since updating to the newest SU I have not had 1 issue with it running smooth...
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+1 I waited to root until the new su was available and I have yet to lose root on any rom.
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Yep nor have I had a single issue with su. Its to Vee expected the first week that you have su issues.
That being said i have yet to have a permissions issue. I have changed my rom i have already edited my framework and so fourth with no problems. S off. Stands for security off incase you were wondering
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Look at who Engadget and AndroidPolice sources for those articles (us, TeamAndIRC). So take this comment based on that.
This posting is utterly inaccurate.
We have removed all those cited "security features" in the thunderbolt.
This thread is in the wrong section as well.
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YES BUT A SOURCE FROM HTC THAT WILL REMAIN UN NAMED. TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES IN THIS DEVICE THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T KEEP SU RUNNING SMOOTH...
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SU runs great on my device. Tell your source to hit me up if he wants his su fixed.
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Look at who Engadget and AndroidPolice sources for those articles (us, TeamAndIRC). So take this comment based on that.
This posting is utterly inaccurate.
We have removed all those cited "security features" in the thunderbolt, and they don't exist in the incredible.
This thread is in the wrong section as well.
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Bring the HAMMER down Thanks for the info.
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YES BUT A SOURCE FROM HTC THAT WILL REMAIN UN NAMED. TOLD ME THERE ARE MANY HIDDEN SECURITY FEATURES IN THIS DEVICE THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T KEEP SU RUNNING SMOOTH...
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The superuser issues stem from sqlite db handling, and were addressed before this device launched. The first rooting threads were just distributing older files.
Locking down of devices is likely more carrier influenced than manufacturer, as they have considerably more reasons to want customers locked out of their hardware.
The security mechanisms have been owned, at this point theres not much to worry about (for shipped devices anyways). They could always update the hw to a.newer more secure revision, but that would be quite costly and not likely to happen at all.
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SU runs great on my device. Tell your source to hit me up if he wants his su fixed.
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LOL....awesome post!!!
Wasn't the su issues just from the change made in Sense more than anything else? And I'll join the chorus saying I've had no issues since the updated su.
Most custom rom flashers seem to last 6 mobths on a particular phone. The first bunch defected to the the Note 2 and the last bunch to the Galaxy S4.
Now i feel like i a droid charge owner after the galaxy nexus release. :thumbdown:
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Did you see hyperdrive just had a major update? I admit it has slowed down but we still have a few options left.
Also beans is going to update (if it hasn't already)
There is also a wip for sense 5 for our phones.
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
Idk about any further, but we'll see 4.2.2 tw for sure I think. I believe I read they're working on it but delayed. Dev work has been better with this than my old phone(droid 3).
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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a little bit of this
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
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a little bit of that
My phone runs way faster then my friend's S4...
Reaching perfection is a bad thing?
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I personally don't feel the sg4 is worth the upgrade, it should be called the sg3+
not too mention it's getting locked down hard..
That is the primary reason why people are still buying the S3.
Yes. Go buy an s4 asap. Development is currently sky rocketing...
Like others have said, this is an unnecessary thread. A bunch of AOSP roms have active nightlies and several TW roms are also being updated. The problem with TW roms are that once you get everything put into them, there's not much more you can do. The code is based off Samsung source so everything is already there. the only thing there is to do is rebase when a new ota comes out.
Go try out an AOSP rom. They really run well on the s3.
Lol AOSP is still booming on the HTC incredible 2. I think that we'll see stuff for much longer since the inc2 with as old and outdated as it is, its still rocking over there.
I'm loving this phone, there's something new everyday for it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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THIS . very well said sir. :good:
The HTC One may slow down development when it comes, I for one will be getting that phone. I will still be keeping my SG3 tho. (will be the first phone I actually keep rather than sell to buy new phone, I really love this phone)
It was the Galaxy S III community - and its massive, relevant history + recent topics here - which gave me enough how-tos, tools + what-if ideas that led to my:
1. Bringing a relative's phone back from a watery death
2. Rooting + installing a custom recovery on the resurrected, stock and locked phone - despite it no longer accepting touch screen input (i.e., hardware short was evident on the display connector across at least two pins)
3. Pulling 1.5 years of photos and videos + app settings from the partially crippled phone, making its owner rather ecstatic
It was an AT&T GSIII, but it information - much of it active threads - gleaned across the XDA Galaxy S III provider topics helped me finally do the above.
Heck, when I gave away my HTC Droid Incredible not long ago, even that model still had active ROM development happening.
- ooofest
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Ah yes but they did kill the droid x. I can assume we may see an update that will do the same. So watch out.
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Just don't ever take an ota, problem solved.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Yessir that would be me who did the testing for the Rezound for S-OFF with the Unlimited.IO crew
Hey fellow Note 5 sufferers. I decided to write this post because I've been seeing a lot of fellow XDA members express well deserved frustration about the lacking of Samsung and T-Mobile's lacking to deliver a 2015 update to the their money's well spent Note 5's.
Below are direct Twitter links to T-Mobile's very own beloved CEO, Samsung's CEO, and more!
(Note)
Please be polite when contacting these companies who are responsible for such a massive delay delivering an update which was announced May, 2015.
My point?
My point is for all of you worried Note 5 customers to direct your voice to the right place to be heard.
Goodluck [emoji25]
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1. You have two current forms of marshmallow for the tmobile note 5 (leaked build and my "ported" firmware).
2. If you are to rant about updates taking awhile at least make sure users know they can still get marshmallow just not through an OTA.
3. T-Mobile will take as long as they need to, you should be more angry at Samsung for releasing the S6 update before the note 5.
4. Check out my thread on how to install 6.0.1 on the tmobile note 5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...l/guide-how-to-install-android-6-0-1-t3319144
5. Thanks for this thread!
God stop with all these MM threads. You all know the process it's been the same since Android first launched on the G1. Unless you have a Nexus, it takes time. Google/Samsung/carrier. That's the hand off and it's always been that way. You'll get it when you get it. If you cant wait buy a Nexus.
@ethanscooter Isn't in call audio broken on your port?
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@ethanscooter Isn't in call audio broken on your port?
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Yes, but I also mentioned the leaked 6.0 build from november.
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God stop with all these MM threads. You all know the process it's been the same since Android first launched on the G1. Unless you have a Nexus, it takes time. Google/Samsung/carrier. That's the hand off and it's always been that way. You'll get it when you get it. If you cant wait buy a Nexus.
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I own a Nexus; in fact, I own almost every Nexus to date. Just because I own pure Vanilla NEXUS devices, it doesn't mean I don't own other variants like my Note 5 perhaps. No. Other companies are out pacing SamCrap by delivering Marshmallow without strain. Fact! I'm afraid we're no longer receiving those very important security monthly patches SamCrap promised us. The rant is about demanding proper customer experience not an update.
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I will no longer respond to pointless comments landed on this thread. My post is as irreverent to you as much as you're comment is to me...no pun intended. [emoji6]
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1. You have two current forms of marshmallow for the tmobile note 5 (leaked build and my "ported" firmware).
2. If you are to rant about updates taking awhile at least make sure users know they can still get marshmallow just not through an OTA.
3. T-Mobile will take as long as they need to, you should be more angry at Samsung for releasing the S6 update before the note 5.
4. Check out my thread on how to install 6.0.1 on the tmobile note 5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...l/guide-how-to-install-android-6-0-1-t3319144
5. Thanks for this thread!
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I would flash these updated builds in a heart beat, but my major concern is the voice response issue. By any chance, has the voice issue been fix or is development moving forward?
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Yes, but I also mentioned the leaked 6.0 build from november.
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That leak is trash. Random reboots and cuts battery life in half. Thanks for sharing though.
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That leak is trash. Random reboots and cuts battery life in half. Thanks for sharing though.
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Thanks for the end user experience. I was wondering about those factors you've just stated before I made the leap, but I guess there's mixed reviews because others are promising an much more delightful experience, but with one major exception (voice bug).
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Security updates for what?
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Thanks for the end user experience. I was wondering about those factors you've just stated before I made the leap, but I guess there's mixed reviews because others are promising an much more delightful experience, but with one major exception (voice bug).
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To clarify I was talking about the earlier leaked build from January. This build (the one he is referring to) is official firmware it just has the audio bug issue.
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Seriously
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As much as I love the Note series, I miss my sd card. Jumping to the s7 edge as soon as it drops. Can't wait for the Note 6 thou!
For the love of God and all that is good, go find something positive to do with your life. There's a whole world out there that you AND your Note 5 can can explore, together, in harmony.
How I'd love to take screen shots of posts from people pining for the update, then match then up with posts of people complaining about how it ruined your device. Fortunately I have better things to do like clean the litter bax handed than sit and complain about a F'n phone and the lack of current software.
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For the love of God and all that is good, go find something positive to do with your life. There's a whole world out there that you AND your Note 5 can can explore, together, in harmony.
How I'd love to take screen shots of posts from people pining for the update, then match then up with posts of people complaining about how it ruined your device. Fortunately I have better things to do like clean the litter bax handed than sit and complain about a F'n phone and the lack of current software.
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Lol.
Jammol said:
Security updates for what?
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The security update that would've deterred you from liking that virus comment. [emoji15]
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tommason1968 said:
For the love of God and all that is good, go find something positive to do with your life. There's a whole world out there that you AND your Note 5 can can explore, together, in harmony.
How I'd love to take screen shots of posts from people pining for the update, then match then up with posts of people complaining about how it ruined your device. Fortunately I have better things to do like clean the litter bax handed than sit and complain about a F'n phone and the lack of current software.
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For the love of GOD!!! Why are you commenting on a thread that makes absolutely no sense to you??? This thread is as useless to you as much as your comment is to me. [emoji19] as Ownage Pranks would say it... STOP IT.
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Back on topic. Please. Or I will ask Mod...to look in on the matter because I believe a person or persons are trolling when stating "unless thread" when in fact, their comments are useless and off topic. (Contradicting)
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The security update that would've deterred you from liking that virus comment. [emoji15]
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Wait what? Lol
I understand you guys are upset, I really do. However, I implore you to show force with your wallets instead because we are not the bread and butter of Samsung Electronics or T-Mobile.
Another thing. I support the right to create a thread for voicing against samsuck, but it's not as I'd everyone here didn't know about the track record of carriers and manufacturers. Literally everyone knows that phone updates take a backseat to new phone launches. It's been that way since the first iPhone was released.
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Is there an ETA for the update, i have a note 5 and i am really eager for the update, it was supposed to be released on December 2015, however i do prefer getting a perfect update than a fast and buggy one...
EDIT: I am from the Middle East.
As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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42freelancer said:
As the saying goes, "the squeaky wheel gets the grease," right? I believe if enough of us email Big Sammy about our discrepancy with these locked bootloaders, perhaps we will get some sort of reply? Even if the answer is a no, wouldn't that be better than false hope? I posted the email address in another board yesterday and felt it needed it's own thread. So here goes: [email protected]
I called Samsung four times yesterday, and on the fourth try, successfully got escalated to a level two technical support agent. He, and the other agents I had the pleasure of speaking to, had no information about future updates, bootloaders, or anything pertaining to root. BUT he did say I could email my complaint to Samsungs President. He stated that as a user who typically gains root on his devices, he understood where I was coming from. I asked what phones he has and he replied (paraphrased) "a galaxy S5 international, rooted and an ASUS device, also rooted,". I think Samsung needs to know that they've killed all potential development on a spectacular device and, in turn, have lost loyal customers because of it.
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Samsung gained too much market share and isn't trying to applease the minority. They did this with the s6 sd card slot removal and sales drop but didn't learned their lesson. Money talks, do but the next samsung device and let them know why.
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I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
BR7fan said:
I going to get rid of the phone this week and get the HTC10. Not just because of no root.
1.Phone is to small for my hands.
2. I find the buttons on the bottom of the phone are more troublesome than helpful.
3. The pulldown is always opening Google voice When you swipe down
4.phone is always turning on movies or music in my pocket.
With all that said,I did write the letter
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I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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42freelancer said:
I can't say I blame you. I've noticed that a majority of known developers are leaving for the HTC. I may follow suit once my term is up on my S7. So sad to see such a great device collapse into itself like this. Despite its shortcomings, I really enjoy my S7. However, bloatware, the inability to speed up the device and manage other root privileges is seriously ruining my experience.
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Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
rtoledo2002 said:
Question. isn't Android 6.0 to blame for a lot of the new security features ? aren't the locked bootloaders , to secure all the " PAY " features in these new phones ?
just a newbie question ps I hate my HTC M9 and it is also locked on boot lader has S-ON too
I emailed the " sunshine" crew about removing the S=ON so far no one has contacted me, and I gave the same email I use in here.
since I WILL NEVER put my credit card info into the phone , I could care less if after rooting a phone I get some sort of virus that might steal my contacts , who cares .
sure would like to know what you will develop on HTC 6.0 that you can't on a S7 running 6.0 or 6.0.1 Android OS?
thanks for putting up . old **** here
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You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
Well if everyone has given up on the Qualcomm version of the S7, then there is no need for this thread. I've seen quite a bit of activity in the Exynos variant threads. Has anyone checked to see if tmobile can be run on it? I'd fork out the cash for one if it were a smart move.
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You go to the HTC site to unlock your bootloader (free).
You use PayPal to pay for sunshine unlock,they don't get your credit card number. Sunshine crew is very reputable, they gave me S-off on my M9
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
S-off means literally security off which means your bootloader is unlocked.
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thanks will try your suggestion next. finally got this M9 rooted, all my failures were due to the bootloader that I unlocked, somehow , got locked up again , only thing I can think of is the RESET's I did from settings ?
anyway I re-unlocked it again , and this time TWRP finally installed. now I need to re read posts telling me what S=OFF would do for me.
thanks again
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It'll allow you to install updated firmware for your phone
F Samsung, last one. I'm butt hurt, to the level of stiches.
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I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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Source?
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Well I think an exploit has been found,but Samsung is lurking in xda. They said it safe for all, they're just waiting to do a tutorial for it and avoid samsung from patching. The newest update seem to have patched this certain exploit so don't update.
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I'd like a source as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page27
I quickly threw his post but keep in mind he is working with the sprint variant.
Once they can confirm it's safe.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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This also looks promising.
https://mobile.twitter.com/laginimaineb/status/737051964857561093
dogswind said:
I emailed for you. I don't expect any sort of reply. I already ordered the HTC 10 and have all the tools ready to unlock it and flash away.
If an exploit is found, I would come back to Samsung in a heartbeat, though!
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I just gave that phone back. Can't see the screen with sunglasses on unless it's sideways. The flow of everything didn't make any sense to me and I didn't find the camera halfway special. Just my opinion andexperience. I had the phone 2 days before giving it back.
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Thanks friend. Glad someone is still working for an exploit and that you're skimming the threads. [emoji106] [emoji106]
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We need a good development to test this out plz, thanx in advance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/code-t3379915/page35
Not sure how many of you have heard of the "security" issue discovered on many newer phones but supposedly it can allow someone to request and be granted SU access via even a simple app. I'm not sure exactly how it would work but it's only for those of us with QC chipsets (that's us, the S7 and S7 Edge are listed as "vulnerable"). Until a fix is pushed, it can be accomplished on all stock firmwares. No need to ODIN or push anything through ADB (so far as I can tell).
The company that discovered it recently shared the vulnerability with QC, manufacturers, and I believe even carriers. They are giving them a standard of 90 days to make a patch and push it before they release it to the public. i.e. don't update anything if you want any hope of utilizing this.
For those with the skill and knowledge, is it possible to use this to our advantage?
https://www.neowin.net/news/900-mil...est-flagships-affected-by-new-vulnerabilities
A quick link for those that want to read on it. Google is your friend for other info.
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*Exploit is QuadRooter. Sorry for the typo.
It's likely these security issues were already patched in a recent update. So for most of us, it's probably a no-go.
This has been discussed in another thread... This has been debunked as completely useless. Sorry guys to disappoint you. The good news is we have devs working on a bootloader unlock!!
KillerClaw321 said:
The good news is we have devs working on a bootloader unlock!!
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Really? Can you share some more info on that?
KillerClaw321 said:
This has been discussed in another thread... This has been debunked as completely useless. Sorry guys to disappoint you. The good news is we have devs working on a bootloader unlock!!
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Really? That blows, hard. Any additional info regarding the bootloader unlock progress?
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But what about if we haven't updated the phone since we bought it. Then wouldn't the phone still be vulnerable to the quad root?
goofwear said:
But what about if we haven't updated the phone since we bought it. Then wouldn't the phone still be vulnerable to the quad root?
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It's just a proof of concept. No one has actually used it to gain root access.