Now, I know I read about a one click solution that was not allowed to come out. My question is, when are we going to have a one click unroot? I have no problems using commands to root my device, I am simply asking the question in a thread form. This way "The Finders of Root" can see there is client base for it. Thanks for any answers or comments.
EDIT: This is meant to be a One click ROOTthread. Sorry for the confusion
eakrish said:
Now, I know I read about a one click solution that was not allowed to come out. My question is, when are we going to have a one click unroot? I have no problems using commands to root my device, I am simply asking the question in a thread form. This way "The Finders of Root" can see there is client base for it. Thanks for any answers or comments.
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I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
Just pm him...it works.
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I hear you, is the method introducted earlier safe to use? What do you mean it works? Have you used it?
I agree that peeps should learn about it so they don't flood the forum with "help I pricked my phone" posts...but at the same time I think there should be an easy alternative for those of us who can't seem to get the hang of using adb. For some reason I can never get adb to work for me...I am however very comfortable changing roms and doing things in hboot. I just came from the incredible and was really looking forward to getting rid of all the crap on my phone that I will never use but I'm not confident enough in adb to obtain root that way...so yes there is a want for an idiot proof way to root the thunderbolt. Just my $.02.
I would like to see the one-click root released only because it is the safest way for a noon like me to root. When you spend $200.00+ on a phone you want to get the maximum out of the phone without bricking it. Why not let the user decide what he wants to use?
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oneders65 said:
I would like to see the one-click root released only because it is the safest way for a noon like me to root. When you spend $200.00+ on a phone you want to get the maximum out of the phone without bricking it. Why not let the user decide what he wants to use?
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
It is much safer having someone without allot of experience rooting their new device by way of say a one click method then entering wrong commands and surely bricking their device. Just my opinion. I have rooted several android phones and the Thunderbolt is allot more involved, much more involved then any rookie should fool with.
So bring on the one click method if it available. I'm sure many are willing to pay for a great app like that. I sure would.
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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adb push panicandcry.txt /forum.xda-developers.com/ ??
<---First post, just learned adb today but too nervous to try rooting, hoping one click method comes out soon or else I'll have to man up
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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A long as you are backing up before you flash then you should never have that problem... Honestly we could go back and forth all day about this but all we are trying to get across is that there is a valid market for a one click root out there
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I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
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That's like saying that we need to learn how to operate a manual transmission when we own an automatic transmission. If it comes up, it comes up, and people can use that guide or any other stickied guide in all the other dev forums to ge themselves out of a jam.
I can tell you that I personally have no intention of ever flashing a custom ROM. All I want to do is root the phone and delete bitbop, blockbuster, etc. Why should I be subjected to arbitrary disciplinary action under the guise of 'for your own good'.
I mean, I donate money to pretty much all the devs who's products I use because I respect their work. So, needlessly stifling efforts to make things easier for the end user, and also someone who may end up buying your lunch, is unproductive and hurtful to the community at large.
jcase said:
I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
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I really hope you're not withholding it because you feel people should learn how to do it the right way. I was in the irc chat for 10 hours both friday and saturday trying to get help but since everyone and their brother was in there i didn't get any help. I understand its tough taking time helping someone out and getting nothing in return. if devs (like you) wanted to get paid for their work i'd happily, happily pay. I have the money, but i dont have the time/patience right now. Some people dont all day to learn how to do something just to get rid of the bloat on their phone. Unless there's another nonroot way, I've been waiting to get all my game data (i.e. angry birds)of my rooted og droid to transfer over to my new phone. Only way i've had luck in the past with titanium backup pro. if I could get help there at least it will be a start.
Wow, a whole thread of people wanting the one click unroot. This should tell people something.
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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boot into recovery and flash the backup you made
or
boot into fastboot and run PASSIMG.zip/PG05IMG.zip...then re-root
just so folks that are new here know: these guys saying you need adb are lying, or don't know what they're talking about. I rooted my Nexus One with one-click and NEVER needed adb either before or after rooting. I flashed hundreds of ROMs and even had a few screwups(lost recovery, bootloops, flashed bad .zips, etc..) and I always recovered NEVER needing adb.
I have never need adb post rooting before either. Unless you screw up the rooting process, otherwise you can just boot into recovery and restore to the nand backup you made.
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I am going to see if I can convince Jaywan or someone to produce one.
It seems like the whole easy-root thing opened a can of worms. I'd be more than happy to release my easy rooter for use by the general public if jcase says it's alright but I think the topic here is unrooting, at least that's what it says in the title. As someone said you should have no problem flashing a stock update file and it is a good idea to have an unroot method for warranty purposes.
its because i am retarded, I meant for the title to say root.
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I'd be more than happy to release my easy rooter for use by the general public if jcase says it's alright
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I would like to second this: at least let dbzfanatic be part of the process or something since he has a one click method ready AND IS WILLING TO HELP US BY RELEASING IT.
If it's about money, I for one would donate to both of you! I'm willing to donate to ALL the folks responsible for development!
or, at the VERY LEAST, tell us the real reason behind not releasing one click because this nonsense about learning adb does not fly at all for the reasons mentioned already in this thread by multiple users. You yourself just said you'd like to see a one click root released:
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I would like to see it.
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I got a LG p500. This is my 1st android phone and I found that "rooting" is the way to go. I googled and I cant really find a good list benefits that rooting can give me. Over the risk involved, that's a lot.
Now let me ask this first, as a casual user, what other benefits can rooting give me? I heard that I need to root before I can install apps to SD but I got an app that can do that. So what else?
What scares me is that I found a lot of posts that says that they got their LG p500 bricked. But reading this forums, I found that there mis now a one click root but I dont see the name of my phone in the compatibility list. Can anyone help me?
I'm not asking for you too spoon feed me, I'm just asking for a right amount of guidance. Thanks in advance!!
Nothing wrong with being a newb... gotta start somewhere, right?
Honestly, if you can do all that you need/want right now without rooting then don't root. Really rooting it is if you want to get into mod'ing, hacking and deep tech-ness from your device. There are some apps out there that require root in order to run, but as you said, you're a casual user.
If you do want to get into mod/hack/tech-guru-ness/etc. more and can wait til there is a safer one-click solution for your device, wait. Don't want to brick and [possibly] void the warranty right?
Best of luck and welcome to the fold, my friend.
takkun1946 said:
Nothing wrong with being a newb... gotta start somewhere, right?
Honestly, if you can do all that you need/want right now without rooting then don't root. Really rooting it is if you want to get into mod'ing, hacking and deep tech-ness from your device. There are some apps out there that require root in order to run, but as you said, you're a casual user.
If you do want to get into mod/hack/tech-guru-ness/etc. more and can wait til there is a safer one-click solution for your device, wait. Don't want to brick and [possibly] void the warranty right?
Best of luck and welcome to the fold, my friend.
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Actually, I just wanna do most of the stuff my phone will allow me, I dont like to be just 'scratching the surface' I wanna go deep and understand android.
with that said, I have used the z4 root, the 1 click root i got from this forums. it worked well. I have also spent a good few hours fixing my adb and i think i got it to work.
Now the problem is the 3 button boot. everytime i do it, my whole phone gets wiped, i figured i'm doing something wrong but what? how can i fix this? thanks in advance!
Look nice and simple i dont have superuser or clockwork but i have s-off for some reason superuser or cw dident flash but i have the dhd rom but no sound all i want is my freakn sound back and to be able to still see check unknown sources how can i do that ??? Just want sound is there a way to flash a kernel or radio to get sound back with out clockwork?
did you even flash the 98sme.zip or whatever it was? i think thats what you didn't do. you seem to have a hard time answering even basic questions or posting in the correct forum. makes it kind of hard to try to help.
i had never rooted an android device before, but i did it yesterday with flying colors. just follow the r34p3rex video, and the read me file from the hack kit., mostly the read me.
Can i flash that without clockwork??
to the best of my knowledge flashing without clockworkmod is a matter of properly formatting the file name to be recognized as a recovery image.
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to the best of my knowledge flashing without clockworkmod is a matter of properly formatting the file name to be recognized as a recovery image.
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I've seen others comment that renaming the ROM package PD98IMG.zip should allow it to be flashed without CWM. When you boot to bootloader it automatically looks for this file, so I would think that this would work. I have not done it myself, but like I said I've seen others comment that they flash this way
Forget all this my atrix was so simple im just going back stock and using wonder machine to load a few apks for him
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I don't get why this is so hard for some people. The readme file lays it out step by step if you want to use the hack kit. There's even a step by step you tube video.
Rooting a phone is not rocket science people. Just take your time, read through the procedure until you UNDERSTAND what each step is telling you to do, if you don't want to take the time to understand how to do something then honestly don't root your phone.
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nucentury08 said:
Forget all this my atrix was so simple im just going back stock and using wonder machine to load a few apks for him
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sir you shouldn't own either of those phones, nor should you be rooting or flashing them. i can't agree more with gunny, the instructions were clear enough i got it the first time.
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sir you shouldn't own either of those phones, nor should you be rooting or flashing them. i can't agree more with gunny, the instructions were clear enough i got it the first time.
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TBH the instructions were very detailed, and had to be followed exactly or else one will not get the right results. Simply adding a space where it shouldn't be could make or break or rooting experience. It takes some patience and diligence to work one's way through to the end. Some just don't have that patience.
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TBH the instructions were very detailed, and had to be followed exactly or else one will not get the right results. Simply adding a space where it shouldn't be could make or break or rooting experience. It takes some patience and diligence to work one's way through to the end. Some just don't have that patience.
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so, what you're saying is, it basically boils down to following directions? who knew?
i have already moved your OTHER off-topic thread to general where it belonged...yet you come right back to Development and start another thread? im closing this thread and let this be your last warning.
I have never rooted my phone before, but would like to do so. I'm running Android version 2.3.6 can someone explain to me what to do or direct me to where I can find out how?
Go here . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526.....it has complete very clear easy to understand directions of how to root.
I was just reading that thread and I seen someone posted that a one click method would be up but I couldn't find it?
Thee acs easyroot one click does not work for 2.3.6
Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
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Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
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What answer are you expecting? I know that sounds incredibly criticizing, not my intention, I promise. I got a laugh. I'm just saying think about it.
My advice though is to watch someone do it on youtube. Even if not for your phone it will help give you an idea of the steps needed and about how long it should take (very useful if something goes wrong and you find yourself sitting and waiting and worrying about how long it is supposed to take)
If you can be patient and follow steps, I'm sure you can. Everyone has a first time.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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You might be surprised how few people research anything before posting. There was a post last week about a guy who bricked his sgsii by flashing a file for a lg Optimus. Then got mad when people said that was stupid.
You're already ahead of the curve with what research you've done.
The nice thing about odin is it's samsung specific software. There may be different details for different phones, but how you connect the phone, the file type you choose, and buttons you do and don't select will be the same. If ever in doubt ask a question. Silver03wrx is easily one of the biggest helps here, much less the rest of the community.
Just know that for now, there's no way to root without tripping your flash counter.
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So there is no way to root without modifying recovery? I would like to preserve my ability to update ota or potentially reverse the process.
You can follow those insruction with odin. The after you flash the superuser zip you can flash stock recovery tar found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943.
And fyi anytime you odin the stock firmware .tar it takes u back to complete stock . Beware though in order to be able to take ota updates u can not delete bloatware. Just freeze it. You need stock recovery and bloatware intact/frozen to be able to ota update
so with a fubar'ed flash counter, i can still receive ota updates? also, will this custom recovery alter my efs folder at all?
All u need to do is have stock recovery and all bloatware to recieve an ota.
Thanks again for your help. This is not the case with my captivate so I was a bit concerned.
I have a LG Mach (AKA Cayenne, LS860) LG Apparently algo named the LU3000 "Mach" as well for w/e reason. There is a distinct lack of ANYbody developing for this phone. I would like to take on doing it myself, but I am unclear on how to start. I managed after about a week to root the stock rom, but I can't find any recoveries for it. How should I go about this?
I understand that this is a very in depth question and for most, it would be too much to tackle. However, I have a background in C++ and Visual Basic (though I am a little rusty). Any direction would be nice and I am willing and capable of learning anything necessary to accomplish this.
Thanks!
Well this is a combination of bump / information. Since there is a lack of information regarding this phone out here, I figured I would share the method I used to root this phone. It works on the stock 4.0.4 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I was thinking about compiling TWRP for this phone myself, but I would like input from everyone if CWM would be a better choice? Input welcome
CorySCline said:
Well this is a combination of bump / information. Since there is a lack of information regarding this phone out here, I figured I would share the method I used to root this phone. It works on the stock 4.0.4 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I was thinking about compiling TWRP for this phone myself, but I would like input from everyone if CWM would be a better choice? Input welcome
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I just won this phone, and I'm putting the term LG MACH ROOT/LG MACH BOOTLOADER in this thread so people can find it via google.
There is pretty much no developer love for this phone...
I don't care which way you do it. Personally I prefer TWRP because of it's touch controls.
Mgamerz said:
I just won this phone, and I'm putting the term LG MACH ROOT/LG MACH BOOTLOADER in this thread so people can find it via google.
There is pretty much no developer love for this phone...
I don't care which way you do it. Personally I prefer TWRP because of it's touch controls.
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Well, it looks like its up to me and you:
Im going to compile TWRP tonight for it, and if all goes well, I will create a new thread with the rooting method and recovery explained. However, know that you will officially be person #2 to use this recovery image. All warnings and potential problems will apply.
Up for some fun?
I haven't got the phone yet actually. Briefmobile informed that I won and that sprint will ship it. I don't know anything more than that :/ I hope soon. It'd be fun to mess with the phone while my college break is going on still.
Sorry about the really slow replies. I should subscribe so that tapatalk notifies me.
I don't know when it will get here :/
But since you have it, do you know if the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable? Google is surprisingly of little use with this phone. I'd love to dink around with this phone since it's not my primary one (and I can't use cellular services on it)
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I haven't got the phone yet actually. Briefmobile informed that I won and that sprint will ship it. I don't know anything more than that :/ I hope soon. It'd be fun to mess with the phone while my college break is going on still.
Sorry about the really slow replies. I should subscribe so that tapatalk notifies me.
I don't know when it will get here :/
But since you have it, do you know if the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable? Google is surprisingly of little use with this phone. I'd love to dink around with this phone since it's not my primary one (and I can't use cellular services on it)
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All good, it takes time to develop these things anyways. I should have a stable TWRP build within a few days, and a CyanogenMod 10.1 (Android 4.2) build complete in the next couple of weeks.
The bootloader is something I am going to tackle tonight. As you can tell, there is zero documentation on the web for this device. In fact, it received more attention when it was a concept than it does now. So for now, I have no answer on the bootloader. I hope so, or all my work is useless lol. However, root is obtained at a bare minimum
Anyone out there that comes across this thread that wants to find information on modding this phone, PLEASE post your interest here. Trust me, you won't find any other resources.
lg locked bootloaders
I have the lg motion, I don't know how close it is to the mach but I've been following a thread for several months that has been trying to figure out a workaround for the locked boot loader. Google all things root guide for lg motion and you might be able to find a decent starting point for your phones maybe even help them figure out the motion
Ok, well I think, for now at least, root is all we are getting . I have managed to develop and compile ClockworkMod Recovery TeamWin Recovery, and Cyanogenmod 10.1 for it, but realized after all that work that the bootloader is not only locked, but also signed with a digitally encrypted key. Basically in laymans terms: We are ****ed. So, if anybody manages to shmooze either Sprint or LG out of these unlock codes, let me know and I'll provide everything else. Otherwise, anything I have made will brick every LS860 it goes on. Sorry guys.
Oh boy is like Motorola all over again... So no flashing recoveries even?
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Hey!
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Mgamerz said:
Oh boy is like Motorola all over again... So no flashing recoveries even?
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Thats correct. At least from my understanding. I could be wrong, but without the ability to unlock the bootloader i dont want to try flashing recovery. Too risky for me. Ill give anyone who wants to try my twrp build but i wont accept any repercussion for it doing anythin negative
Give me your twrp build then
I just rooted it. Was super easy.
Tried adb reboot bootloader. Did nothing. Tried adb reboot recovery. Recovered the device. Can't seem to figure out a way to have it download software. (like nvflash) Wonder if there's a special cable...
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So I already bricked two, lol. Not going for a third. I really wanna root this phone. I went as far as getting the firmware which is a cab file. But then I guess you have to convert that to a kdz file. Then decrypt the kdz file. Well it appears you need to be an LG Service tech to use the program. Was hoping there was work around for all this,
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So I already bricked two, lol. Not going for a third. I really wanna root this phone. I went as far as getting the firmware which is a cab file. But then I guess you have to convert that to a kdz file. Then decrypt the kdz file. Well it appears you need to be an LG Service tech to use the program. Was hoping there was work around for all this,
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I rooted it, it was easy using the sony tool that does the adb backup remount bug, but that's as far as I got. I uninstalled a bunch of crap off of the system partition and its a lot faster now, too bad I can't get that activation screen to go away.
Just pulled the newest OTA. I found it in /cache. I tried to get the URL but instead I made it so it no longer sees there's an update... I have the zip file however, and inside of it there is patches to just about everything in system, and updates to magazines, chrome, and LGBookmarksProvider.
There's also a command to install a recovery image:
#!/system/bin/sh
/sbin/write_recovery /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery
Not sure if it's a good idea to flash that... forgot that it's still locked bootloader
EDIT: Finally figured out download mode... I just held all the buttons down when starting it and voila, it's there. I also hear you can use the LG Software update tool to flash back to stock, so we might finally have root that's safe
Does anyone have the BooksTablet.apk found in /system/app? I'm not sure why but it won't install the update cause the sha1 of that file fails I don't know where to find it.
Dont let this thread die! I noticed there was no dedicated forum for the LS860 development, I really enjoy this phone and would love some level of development for it. I can help as much as I am able.
jfm567 said:
Dont let this thread die! I noticed there was no dedicated forum for the LS860 development, I really enjoy this phone and would love some level of development for it. I can help as much as I am able.
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Can someone rip me their BooksTablet.apk and BooksTablet.odex from their LS860 and PM me a link to it? I really am pissed off at the update prompt (I'm not sure why it's not working, I haven't touched it and I made sure I backed everything up... It won't validate BooksTablet.apk) I'm on the stock original version of the software ZV6 or something... not the ZV7.
I really don't want to go into sprint that much, though I might have to do that soon.
Edit: Just called sprint. They won't do anything for me and I'm not going to pay money for someone to reflash my phone. It's pretty ridiculous how factory images for devices aren't released. You know how many issues this would solve? That's why nexus devices are great. They're practically unbrickable.
Hey guys, try posting the mach in here so maybe it can get a forum for it.... And possibly some development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
Hi, I have LG Mach (LG LS860) - the Root MANY ANDROID! [Upd: 17.04.2013] Sony method worked with software version ZV6, but I have purchased a new LG Mach with ROM version ZV7 (an update from Feb 20) - and this method runs but does not result in root - how can I roll this software version back or else get root in an alternative manner? - please help!
Hey guys.
I have a rooted, unlocked bootloader, custom "recoveryed" Nexus 5, on stock 4.4.4 and stock kernel.
My question is, when Android L comes around, what should I do to update. Doing an OTA update is probably not the best idea right? Since I am rooted and have a custom recovery. So, what would be the steps to take to update. I don´t mind loosing root or making a fresh install.
Anyway just a noob question about something that I never had to do, since I rooted it on 4.4.4.
Thanks for your attention.
Flash a factory image.
Where can I get those?
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Where can I get those?
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On the Google site. Google "nexus factory images"
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You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
Don't use toolkits.
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Don't use toolkits.
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why Ive been using the wugfresh forever now. On my nexus 5 and 7 with no issues.
tevil said:
You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
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I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
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I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
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Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is. Also he obviously knows how to root and install custom Bls if hes done it before.
I very rarely pop in here anymore myself unless there is a major issue but doing things the way Ive been has pretty much eliminated those (jinx). Im still more on the Nexus S forum since I tinker with that more as my mp3 player.
He could always just take a backup before updating and dive in. Ive done that in the past with fine results.
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
tevil said:
Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is.
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they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
tevil said:
Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
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Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
Zepius said:
they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
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Well my bad, Ive never seen that. But toolkits (mainly this one) have very detailed instructions. Let alone the same issues happen when using ADB and push.
Its a double edged sword. I get the , go the long route first, which even I did (but also pre root kits), but In my own defense reading the OP he already did root and BL his phone (to my assumptions) so I didnt think my input was that bad.
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PsychDrummer said:
Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
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I hear ya.
I ran the L beta a while so honestly Im not that worried. JINX, Im sure you will be answering my HELP thread in 4 weeks! lol
There was no animosity from me. I simply said "don't use toolkits" and that was for good reasons which have been well written in the (General) sticky threads that all new users should read
The problem is we have to waste our time trying to explain what fastboot is to someone who broke their phone after only having used a toolkit. This is why we prefer people don't use them or recommend them.
On top of that,many toolkits are multi-device and this can cause bricks when faced with uneducated users.
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Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
J.Diogo said:
Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
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Its not but it still sort of removes some of the manual steps we hope you would learn doing it all manually.
Best place to start is the general sticky thread. My adb and fastboot thread is designed to be a good start for people looking for basic info. Then anyone looking to actually root can move on to the rooting guides which employ much of what was learned in the former thread.
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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No no. As a root method it works fine. Just not as an educational piece
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@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
larwindcunha said:
@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
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you clearly didnt read.
good god look what I started lol.