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my dad is going to get me a samsung captivate for my birthday next week, and I really want to get the most out of the device. I have several questions that I could not find the answers to:
1. what is the chance that loading a custom rom will brick the device? I see a ton of disclaimers on rom pages and stuff. how dangerous is this?
2. can you fix a "bricked" captivate? is it possible to flash it back to stock, or does bricked mean perminatly dead?
3. how long will it be until there is a gingerbread rom? I wanted to get the nexus s, but I have to go att. how long will I have to wait for that gingerbread tastyness?
thanks for the help.
ghost55 said:
my dad is going to get me a samsung captivate for my birthday next week, and I really want to get the most out of the device. I have several questions that I could not find the answers to:
1. what is the chance that loading a custom rom will brick the device? I see a ton of disclaimers on rom pages and stuff. how dangerous is this?
2. can you fix a "bricked" captivate? is it possible to flash it back to stock, or does bricked mean perminatly dead?
3. how long will it be until there is a gingerbread rom? I wanted to get the nexus s, but I have to go att. how long will I have to wait for that gingerbread tastyness?
thanks for the help.
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1. There is always a chance to brick your phone even if it is .00009% it is still there.
2. Make sure you can get into download and recovery mode with the 3 button combo. As long as you can get there then you can just about always recover no matter what you do to it. Key word being almost. There are also other ways to recover, look around and I am sure you will find them.
3. That part is still up in the air. Untill we get a full port. Right now we are still waiting (well at least some of us) for an offical 2.2 update let alone a 2.3 update.
Make sure you read at least the first page in the rom thread you are gonna flash for any extra instructions
so pretty much it is unlikely that I will brick it, and even if I do, it is possible to fix?
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so pretty much it is unlikely that I will brick it, and even if I do, it is possible to fix?
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It is highly unlikely that you will brick it. Most bricks can be recovered from. The only time I have not been able to recover is when att did the OTA and it bricked my phone and I didn't know about jtag at the time so I sent back to att and it was replaced. Is it 100% umbrickable? No but i would say 99% as long as you read up first and follow the directions to a T you will be fine. I have flashed about 1500 times and nothing i could not recover from
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thanks. I just wanted to make sure that it was fairly safe to modify, because the phone is not cheap,and it would kind of suck to brick the device 10min ito owning it.
ya I was the same way as you, kind of nervous about bricking my new phone. Just read up on all of the various rom threads. If you have a good idea what you're doing the chances of bricking should be quite small.
I agree (with all of the above) and there is an excellent how-to link to YouTube vids in the Development section (too late and heading to bed or I'd link it) that steps you through rooting and installing ROM. I've been there, done that but it's a great reference for anyone thinking about installing a custom ROM....nice to SEE someone do it to ease the fears.
I wanted to know if there is a way to root it yet?
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Answered many times please search...
I believe you can, but you can't use a one click root method. Everybody still says it's easy to do, but I don't quite get it. I'm not an idiot, but I just don't understand some of the stuff they say to do. Apparantly you have to "install nvflasher through clockworkmod". I see where I can download clockworkmod, but it's just a bunch of DLL files and an exe I think. Then I saw something about installing drivers and they lost me. My only guess was the drivers it installs when you plug your phone into your computer via the usb port? I don't know. Anyway, after installing the nvflasher, I guess you can just flash roms. I don't quite understand how to do that either though, lol.
Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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This.
All the instructions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 thanks to TGA_Gunnman. I understand a lot of us are new to rooting/flashing but there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
what I don't get is what to do if you only have a mac.
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Are you saying this method works on the stock Gingerbread rom? I thought SOC didn't work with GB on the G2x.
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Just a heads up...I don't think this will work. Unless SOC updated to a new version. Just search the forums use this "how to root after OTA " I recommend NVFLash CWM then if you want 2.3.3 rooted search "stock OTA rooted." Posted by xboarder. Or use a custom rom. This has been asked to many times. Yes it is possible to root some other way. That to is covered by xboarder also. Unless SOC has a new version out with in the last week it wont Work.....read post 4665. But I do have great news......the search options in the forums do work and even Google searches will direct you to xda. If you find a post about something read all of it. Then read the OP(opening post) 3 to 4 time looking at dates and change logs..
So to recap
1) SOC will not work. NVFlash clockwork.
2) use the search/Google.
3) if you read this and did not see xboarders name at least once befor this post, reread.
4) read and reread.....keep reading....the answers are posted.
5) read the OP. Look at dates and change logs.
If you don't like my response to this post go buy an iPhone. The rest of us are sick of seeing the same questions. That is all
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there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
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Well said.
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
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I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
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Yeah, I might look at it again and give it a try later on. There's still a few things i'm confused about though.
I didn't know you could flash roms without rooting first. But I guess flashing a rooted rom technically does root your phone? It's just a different way of achieving root? Also, if you are gonna flash roms, I thought you had to do the nvflash routine.. which would root your phone anyway.. lol.
I believe some cases that could be true. Root could be needed to install a flash recovery. Our phone use nvidia. The nvflash utility makes it easy. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. When you nvflash you are replacing the factor/stock recovery with CWM. At that point you could put any Rom you like. I kind of see it like a boot disk. Root allows you to see system folders and such. Kind of like having admin rites on your computers operating system. Root also aloes programs to modify system information. To compare this to the common computer root is like an admin account in windows. Unroot is like a user account that companies give you on their computer. CWM is like having a boot disk. I hope I cleared that up for some one.
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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Hey I know u mean well but I would first ask doniqcc since it is his rom ya know
Root first?
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
pioneers2001 said:
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
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Yes and no, in that order. You can use nvflash to replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, such as clockworkmod recovery. Using custom recovery, you can flash any rom that's compatible with the phone. Most of the roms have superuser privileges (root) built into them.
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
brannondean09 said:
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
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Huh? The info has been on this board for weeks how to do that already.
Thanks for the help everyone, I get it now!
Hey everyone, I just want to let you all know that I was able to do the NVFlash, backup everything, and install CM7.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK I WAS WORRIED ABOUT!!!! It was so incredibly easy.
CM7 is installed, however I'm having issues with my APN now working and losing its information, I've posted for help on that in another thread.
Thanks again, and to those out there who worry like I did...have no fear....CWM is a neat tool, ESPECIALLY for backup of your entire phone.
Thanks.
John
Hello, XDA! and, even though we haven't met yet, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STUFF ON MY PHONE!!!!!! This is my first, and dreaded post.
I'm new to smartphones. My first was an iSUCK 3g. Now, I have the SGS4G! I'm totally new to this wprld, and every day, I'm being blown away by something new. Anyways, I have read two guides on this site already, but I'm still suffering from a little confusion. I think my problem comes from when I first rooted my phone. I was in a hurry to root it, because I needed to unlock the carrier permissions, so I could use my ATT sim. I hadn't found this site yet, sadly. I had tried a few things, to no avail, until I came across a you-tube video with some kid showing me how it's done, and other littler kids screaming in the background. Following the video step, by step, got it done, but he failed to go over, and explain what we were actually doing. Now, I don't know what ROM I have, or what kernel. It's not a big issue, because this phone now totally blows me away, especially the launchers.
I really enjoy this phone over the iSucks, becuase I like computers, and I'm more tech savvy than most. Perhaps that's where more of my confusion comes from... the terminology. So, on to the issue:
My RAM seems to run unusually high! with the GOtskmanager, it's always clocking between %72 - %79. I got RAM Manager Pro, which sometimes brings me down to %65 - %69, but it usually doesn't last long. I think I have it nailed down. I think it comes from certain apps that seem to run themselves. I have auto sync off, and I've DONE MY RESEARCH (some of which, I've yet to comprehend) I know not to use a task killer to routinely kill apps, and I know how the OS works, and allocates its RAM. So, I won't even worry about it if someone says these levels are normal.
Any tips on what I should do with my new phone? I saw a video that I can't find again, where this guy had his homescreen set up in such away, that the apps made this 3d cube of tiny boxes (apps) that moved like a rubik's cube. HOW DO I DO THAT!? It's not in any of the launchers I've tried. Anyways, thank you once again, XDA, you guys are awesome. I'm just a newb. Thank you to the users who made the guides!!
Ram is at 84% right now, NOT DOING ANYTHING!
Look at my guide that i have linked in my sig and read through the second post to find a custom rom that you like (i suggest Valhalla Black) and my guide tells you how to flash it. If you have questions, feel free to ask in the guide thread or pm me
And I believe the 3d cubes are part of SPB Shell launcher
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Thank you Julz! I have read your guide thoroughly. I know to search, and research before asking questions. Like I said, I'm just slightly still confused. Did I not put a custom ROM on my phone when I rooted it?
Do I have to factory restore, or uninstall the current ROM in some way before getting another?
Also, I think I fixed the RAM issue. What is normal levels for my device? I can't find normal RAM levels listed anywhere on the net for my device.
Read the first link in my signature as an addition to Juls' guide. After rooting GB you need a custom kernel. Look for SGS Kernel Flasher in either guide to take your next step.
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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Firmware: 2.3.6
Baseband: TE59VUVKJ6
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-sms-kj6-vo.1.0+
Build: GINGERBREAD.VUVKJ6
I used Heimdall to do this, as per the video guide I followed. I just downloaded Odin, for future tasks. I love the Norse theme to this stuff, I know the Eddas practically by heart, as well as the elder Futhark, and actual history of the ancient Scandanavian Vikings.
Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Thank you very much for the tip. Advice heeded! Now, do you know anything about my ram? Why my Go Task mnger is always reading that my RAM is almost always above 70% used?
Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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I've read the guides, the only thing I don't understand about that process, is that, will I need to set up all my apps again, am I starting my phone from scratch? Which ROM would you personally suggest?
When I'm using a custom ROM, am I restricted in any way? Can I still use the market?
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
lumin30 said:
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
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I didn't read that guide, becuase I'm not on Froyo
Read it.
One more thing. You say start from scratch... Factory Reset? So I will need to root again? Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
I mean with your apps. Factory reset won't unroot you. It isn't a bad idea to do a factory reset between flashings as a precautionary measure.
You shouldn't have to unlock again either.
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Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
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I'm on ATT as well and flash my phone all the time. I've never lost the unlock.
My brother, thank you so very much for the info! I have been reading the guide you mentioned, and now I know why. 2 guides in there! I can't thank you enough, I've hit thanks on all your replies here, because little by little, you're really helping my understanding of it all. It must be frustrating trying to help people like myself! Thanks for trying to push this stuff through my thick head! However, I've encountered another problem, following your guide:
Trying to back up my efs folder, using Astro File Manager... says it cannot do it! I guess this means I need something that requests superuser permissions?
Any program you would recommend? or can I just do it manually with my computer, like save it on my comp or something?
I recommend starting where it talks about SGS Kernel Flasher. Then once you have the custom kernel with CWM - do and nandroid back up and save the nandroid back up on your computer for safe keeping. That will have your efs folder within it. And I recommended Super Manager
And flash this kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25115050&postcount=1
I guess the kernel I have, doesn't have CWM. So, if I flash a new one, do I need to delete the one I have first or anything? Or just go about flashing a new one, like I never did one in the first place? I can try to find the video guide I followed if you think it will help.
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??
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Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??
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1st: I bolded the part in your statement that I was talking about in my first post. I appreciate the help a lot, so no offense, but I have no idea what that sentence even meant.. Will you please speak more clearly, and, to be honest, dumb it down a lot for me. I seriously know nothing about this stuff.
2nd: I don't want help installing custom ROMs. I want to go back to the way my phone was BEFORE having to use any custom ROMs. In other words, I don't even want Jelly Bean on my phone the way it is anymore. I want Ice Cream Sandwich back (I'm pretty sure that was the last one, right? Lol) so that from THERE I can update using VERIZON's Jelly Bean update.
The reason is that I've had problems with my phone that I NEVER had before rooting/downloading this custom "nightly" ROM. The main problem, I can not play ANY games on my phone without it crashing minutes in. I have a Galaxy S3, for crying out loud, so the games obviously aren't too much for the phone itself to handle. I think the nightly ROM I downloaded was just a bit buggy.
Another main reason I want to is because I miss all of the developer options my phone had before, i.e screenshots by swiping hand over screen, Kies Air, etc.
If someone could please help me a bit more in depth I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!
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Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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How bout this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867253
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I assume you didn't root yourself. I would ask whoever did it for you to undo it.
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Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.
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I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.
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You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
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kintwofan said:
You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
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lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks
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lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks
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Yes full unroot from app will unroot you. Or just delete the app and take the ota
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I'm really sorry to do this but.. Lol. This honestly should be my last Q. The rest seems quite clear to me but is the part of that guide under section 5 titled "*Flashing a Stock Radio with Odin or a Custom Recovery" applicable to what I'm trying to do as well? It's kind of offset like it's something optional/different but do I need to do that also to take my phone back today? Thanks.
Hey guys.
I have a rooted, unlocked bootloader, custom "recoveryed" Nexus 5, on stock 4.4.4 and stock kernel.
My question is, when Android L comes around, what should I do to update. Doing an OTA update is probably not the best idea right? Since I am rooted and have a custom recovery. So, what would be the steps to take to update. I don´t mind loosing root or making a fresh install.
Anyway just a noob question about something that I never had to do, since I rooted it on 4.4.4.
Thanks for your attention.
Flash a factory image.
Where can I get those?
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Where can I get those?
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On the Google site. Google "nexus factory images"
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You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
Don't use toolkits.
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rootSU said:
Don't use toolkits.
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why Ive been using the wugfresh forever now. On my nexus 5 and 7 with no issues.
tevil said:
You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
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I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
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I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
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Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is. Also he obviously knows how to root and install custom Bls if hes done it before.
I very rarely pop in here anymore myself unless there is a major issue but doing things the way Ive been has pretty much eliminated those (jinx). Im still more on the Nexus S forum since I tinker with that more as my mp3 player.
He could always just take a backup before updating and dive in. Ive done that in the past with fine results.
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
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Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is.
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they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
tevil said:
Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
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Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
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they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
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Well my bad, Ive never seen that. But toolkits (mainly this one) have very detailed instructions. Let alone the same issues happen when using ADB and push.
Its a double edged sword. I get the , go the long route first, which even I did (but also pre root kits), but In my own defense reading the OP he already did root and BL his phone (to my assumptions) so I didnt think my input was that bad.
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Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
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I hear ya.
I ran the L beta a while so honestly Im not that worried. JINX, Im sure you will be answering my HELP thread in 4 weeks! lol
There was no animosity from me. I simply said "don't use toolkits" and that was for good reasons which have been well written in the (General) sticky threads that all new users should read
The problem is we have to waste our time trying to explain what fastboot is to someone who broke their phone after only having used a toolkit. This is why we prefer people don't use them or recommend them.
On top of that,many toolkits are multi-device and this can cause bricks when faced with uneducated users.
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Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
J.Diogo said:
Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
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Its not but it still sort of removes some of the manual steps we hope you would learn doing it all manually.
Best place to start is the general sticky thread. My adb and fastboot thread is designed to be a good start for people looking for basic info. Then anyone looking to actually root can move on to the rooting guides which employ much of what was learned in the former thread.
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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No no. As a root method it works fine. Just not as an educational piece
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@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
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@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
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you clearly didnt read.
good god look what I started lol.