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Now, I know I read about a one click solution that was not allowed to come out. My question is, when are we going to have a one click unroot? I have no problems using commands to root my device, I am simply asking the question in a thread form. This way "The Finders of Root" can see there is client base for it. Thanks for any answers or comments.
EDIT: This is meant to be a One click ROOTthread. Sorry for the confusion
eakrish said:
Now, I know I read about a one click solution that was not allowed to come out. My question is, when are we going to have a one click unroot? I have no problems using commands to root my device, I am simply asking the question in a thread form. This way "The Finders of Root" can see there is client base for it. Thanks for any answers or comments.
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I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
Just pm him...it works.
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I hear you, is the method introducted earlier safe to use? What do you mean it works? Have you used it?
I agree that peeps should learn about it so they don't flood the forum with "help I pricked my phone" posts...but at the same time I think there should be an easy alternative for those of us who can't seem to get the hang of using adb. For some reason I can never get adb to work for me...I am however very comfortable changing roms and doing things in hboot. I just came from the incredible and was really looking forward to getting rid of all the crap on my phone that I will never use but I'm not confident enough in adb to obtain root that way...so yes there is a want for an idiot proof way to root the thunderbolt. Just my $.02.
I would like to see the one-click root released only because it is the safest way for a noon like me to root. When you spend $200.00+ on a phone you want to get the maximum out of the phone without bricking it. Why not let the user decide what he wants to use?
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oneders65 said:
I would like to see the one-click root released only because it is the safest way for a noon like me to root. When you spend $200.00+ on a phone you want to get the maximum out of the phone without bricking it. Why not let the user decide what he wants to use?
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
It is much safer having someone without allot of experience rooting their new device by way of say a one click method then entering wrong commands and surely bricking their device. Just my opinion. I have rooted several android phones and the Thunderbolt is allot more involved, much more involved then any rookie should fool with.
So bring on the one click method if it available. I'm sure many are willing to pay for a great app like that. I sure would.
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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adb push panicandcry.txt /forum.xda-developers.com/ ??
<---First post, just learned adb today but too nervous to try rooting, hoping one click method comes out soon or else I'll have to man up
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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A long as you are backing up before you flash then you should never have that problem... Honestly we could go back and forth all day about this but all we are trying to get across is that there is a valid market for a one click root out there
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I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
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That's like saying that we need to learn how to operate a manual transmission when we own an automatic transmission. If it comes up, it comes up, and people can use that guide or any other stickied guide in all the other dev forums to ge themselves out of a jam.
I can tell you that I personally have no intention of ever flashing a custom ROM. All I want to do is root the phone and delete bitbop, blockbuster, etc. Why should I be subjected to arbitrary disciplinary action under the guise of 'for your own good'.
I mean, I donate money to pretty much all the devs who's products I use because I respect their work. So, needlessly stifling efforts to make things easier for the end user, and also someone who may end up buying your lunch, is unproductive and hurtful to the community at large.
jcase said:
I would like to see it, and hoped it was coming, but there is some debate on it atm.
Some of us feel that users should learn to use adb, and how to flash RUUs, to make it easier for them to recover from a goof in the future.
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I really hope you're not withholding it because you feel people should learn how to do it the right way. I was in the irc chat for 10 hours both friday and saturday trying to get help but since everyone and their brother was in there i didn't get any help. I understand its tough taking time helping someone out and getting nothing in return. if devs (like you) wanted to get paid for their work i'd happily, happily pay. I have the money, but i dont have the time/patience right now. Some people dont all day to learn how to do something just to get rid of the bloat on their phone. Unless there's another nonroot way, I've been waiting to get all my game data (i.e. angry birds)of my rooted og droid to transfer over to my new phone. Only way i've had luck in the past with titanium backup pro. if I could get help there at least it will be a start.
Wow, a whole thread of people wanting the one click unroot. This should tell people something.
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What happens when you flash a bad .zip and you HAVE to use adb to get your phone back to a working state?
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boot into recovery and flash the backup you made
or
boot into fastboot and run PASSIMG.zip/PG05IMG.zip...then re-root
just so folks that are new here know: these guys saying you need adb are lying, or don't know what they're talking about. I rooted my Nexus One with one-click and NEVER needed adb either before or after rooting. I flashed hundreds of ROMs and even had a few screwups(lost recovery, bootloops, flashed bad .zips, etc..) and I always recovered NEVER needing adb.
I have never need adb post rooting before either. Unless you screw up the rooting process, otherwise you can just boot into recovery and restore to the nand backup you made.
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I am going to see if I can convince Jaywan or someone to produce one.
It seems like the whole easy-root thing opened a can of worms. I'd be more than happy to release my easy rooter for use by the general public if jcase says it's alright but I think the topic here is unrooting, at least that's what it says in the title. As someone said you should have no problem flashing a stock update file and it is a good idea to have an unroot method for warranty purposes.
its because i am retarded, I meant for the title to say root.
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I'd be more than happy to release my easy rooter for use by the general public if jcase says it's alright
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I would like to second this: at least let dbzfanatic be part of the process or something since he has a one click method ready AND IS WILLING TO HELP US BY RELEASING IT.
If it's about money, I for one would donate to both of you! I'm willing to donate to ALL the folks responsible for development!
or, at the VERY LEAST, tell us the real reason behind not releasing one click because this nonsense about learning adb does not fly at all for the reasons mentioned already in this thread by multiple users. You yourself just said you'd like to see a one click root released:
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I would like to see it.
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I wanted to know if there is a way to root it yet?
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Answered many times please search...
I believe you can, but you can't use a one click root method. Everybody still says it's easy to do, but I don't quite get it. I'm not an idiot, but I just don't understand some of the stuff they say to do. Apparantly you have to "install nvflasher through clockworkmod". I see where I can download clockworkmod, but it's just a bunch of DLL files and an exe I think. Then I saw something about installing drivers and they lost me. My only guess was the drivers it installs when you plug your phone into your computer via the usb port? I don't know. Anyway, after installing the nvflasher, I guess you can just flash roms. I don't quite understand how to do that either though, lol.
Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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Follow the first part of this video to get clockworkmod recovery on your phone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs)
From there you can flash roms. In the dev section there is a stock rooted ROM by xboarder.
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This.
All the instructions are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 thanks to TGA_Gunnman. I understand a lot of us are new to rooting/flashing but there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
what I don't get is what to do if you only have a mac.
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Are you saying this method works on the stock Gingerbread rom? I thought SOC didn't work with GB on the G2x.
blackerwater said:
You can also use superOne clicks new app. Only works on windows
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-root-t-mobile-lg-g2x-superoneclick-windows-only-21949/
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Just a heads up...I don't think this will work. Unless SOC updated to a new version. Just search the forums use this "how to root after OTA " I recommend NVFLash CWM then if you want 2.3.3 rooted search "stock OTA rooted." Posted by xboarder. Or use a custom rom. This has been asked to many times. Yes it is possible to root some other way. That to is covered by xboarder also. Unless SOC has a new version out with in the last week it wont Work.....read post 4665. But I do have great news......the search options in the forums do work and even Google searches will direct you to xda. If you find a post about something read all of it. Then read the OP(opening post) 3 to 4 time looking at dates and change logs..
So to recap
1) SOC will not work. NVFlash clockwork.
2) use the search/Google.
3) if you read this and did not see xboarders name at least once befor this post, reread.
4) read and reread.....keep reading....the answers are posted.
5) read the OP. Look at dates and change logs.
If you don't like my response to this post go buy an iPhone. The rest of us are sick of seeing the same questions. That is all
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there's so much information just lying around that it's beyond how many times the same question is asked.
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Well said.
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
touge_ninja said:
I was surprised the walkthrough provided here for using NVflash was actually really EASY. whoever made it made sure it was idiot proof. got it on my first try.
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Yeah, I might look at it again and give it a try later on. There's still a few things i'm confused about though.
I didn't know you could flash roms without rooting first. But I guess flashing a rooted rom technically does root your phone? It's just a different way of achieving root? Also, if you are gonna flash roms, I thought you had to do the nvflash routine.. which would root your phone anyway.. lol.
I believe some cases that could be true. Root could be needed to install a flash recovery. Our phone use nvidia. The nvflash utility makes it easy. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. When you nvflash you are replacing the factor/stock recovery with CWM. At that point you could put any Rom you like. I kind of see it like a boot disk. Root allows you to see system folders and such. Kind of like having admin rites on your computers operating system. Root also aloes programs to modify system information. To compare this to the common computer root is like an admin account in windows. Unroot is like a user account that companies give you on their computer. CWM is like having a boot disk. I hope I cleared that up for some one.
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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so I hope the Moderators and the developer for eaglesblood dont mind my following anouncements ne flashing NCFlash does not give you su permissions therefore for people like me (i consider my self a super user and i want to steal a phrase from another post i seen " i got the new gx2 and i have not made it screem my bit** yet" meaning i dont want my phone to act like anyone else phone I have diffrent needs) i do however like the stock rom and Eaglesblood rom is as close to stoc as can get but is rooted i am working on porting a recovery that is just like the stock room when you get it this will take a little time to do and i will start it of by modding the eaglesblood romso i hope that does not make them mad anyways i will not post on here when i am finished with it i wil post on my "LG G2X (official) group on facebook and the link to that is... well it want let me post a link yet so if i could get a moderator to post it that would be great
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Hey I know u mean well but I would first ask doniqcc since it is his rom ya know
Root first?
So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
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So with this whole NVflash thing, does that mean you really don't need to root first, because NVflashing is already rooting it for you?
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Yes and no, in that order. You can use nvflash to replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, such as clockworkmod recovery. Using custom recovery, you can flash any rom that's compatible with the phone. Most of the roms have superuser privileges (root) built into them.
Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
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Good news i found a root for and it works i am so happy and now i dont have to mess with the eaglesblood rom (now offence) but you do have to flash clockworkmod recovery in order to flash the su root package for my info go to facebook and search LG G2x (official)
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Huh? The info has been on this board for weeks how to do that already.
Thanks for the help everyone, I get it now!
Hey everyone, I just want to let you all know that I was able to do the NVFlash, backup everything, and install CM7.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK I WAS WORRIED ABOUT!!!! It was so incredibly easy.
CM7 is installed, however I'm having issues with my APN now working and losing its information, I've posted for help on that in another thread.
Thanks again, and to those out there who worry like I did...have no fear....CWM is a neat tool, ESPECIALLY for backup of your entire phone.
Thanks.
John
I have never rooted my phone before, but would like to do so. I'm running Android version 2.3.6 can someone explain to me what to do or direct me to where I can find out how?
Go here . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526.....it has complete very clear easy to understand directions of how to root.
I was just reading that thread and I seen someone posted that a one click method would be up but I couldn't find it?
Thee acs easyroot one click does not work for 2.3.6
Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
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Got it thanks
So I see that it says you need knowledge with the use of ODIN which I don't have so do you still think I would be able to do it?
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What answer are you expecting? I know that sounds incredibly criticizing, not my intention, I promise. I got a laugh. I'm just saying think about it.
My advice though is to watch someone do it on youtube. Even if not for your phone it will help give you an idea of the steps needed and about how long it should take (very useful if something goes wrong and you find yourself sitting and waiting and worrying about how long it is supposed to take)
If you can be patient and follow steps, I'm sure you can. Everyone has a first time.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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Yeah that's the first thing I did before I decided to post. I always try to do my research before finally asking a question. I read that rooting is different for all phones so I thought why watch a process if it's going to be different from what I will actually be doing it will kind of confuse me even more. Also I search on YT and there were only 2 videos that I found for this phone and both were for version 2.3.5.
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You might be surprised how few people research anything before posting. There was a post last week about a guy who bricked his sgsii by flashing a file for a lg Optimus. Then got mad when people said that was stupid.
You're already ahead of the curve with what research you've done.
The nice thing about odin is it's samsung specific software. There may be different details for different phones, but how you connect the phone, the file type you choose, and buttons you do and don't select will be the same. If ever in doubt ask a question. Silver03wrx is easily one of the biggest helps here, much less the rest of the community.
Just know that for now, there's no way to root without tripping your flash counter.
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So there is no way to root without modifying recovery? I would like to preserve my ability to update ota or potentially reverse the process.
You can follow those insruction with odin. The after you flash the superuser zip you can flash stock recovery tar found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943.
And fyi anytime you odin the stock firmware .tar it takes u back to complete stock . Beware though in order to be able to take ota updates u can not delete bloatware. Just freeze it. You need stock recovery and bloatware intact/frozen to be able to ota update
so with a fubar'ed flash counter, i can still receive ota updates? also, will this custom recovery alter my efs folder at all?
All u need to do is have stock recovery and all bloatware to recieve an ota.
Thanks again for your help. This is not the case with my captivate so I was a bit concerned.
Hello, XDA! and, even though we haven't met yet, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STUFF ON MY PHONE!!!!!! This is my first, and dreaded post.
I'm new to smartphones. My first was an iSUCK 3g. Now, I have the SGS4G! I'm totally new to this wprld, and every day, I'm being blown away by something new. Anyways, I have read two guides on this site already, but I'm still suffering from a little confusion. I think my problem comes from when I first rooted my phone. I was in a hurry to root it, because I needed to unlock the carrier permissions, so I could use my ATT sim. I hadn't found this site yet, sadly. I had tried a few things, to no avail, until I came across a you-tube video with some kid showing me how it's done, and other littler kids screaming in the background. Following the video step, by step, got it done, but he failed to go over, and explain what we were actually doing. Now, I don't know what ROM I have, or what kernel. It's not a big issue, because this phone now totally blows me away, especially the launchers.
I really enjoy this phone over the iSucks, becuase I like computers, and I'm more tech savvy than most. Perhaps that's where more of my confusion comes from... the terminology. So, on to the issue:
My RAM seems to run unusually high! with the GOtskmanager, it's always clocking between %72 - %79. I got RAM Manager Pro, which sometimes brings me down to %65 - %69, but it usually doesn't last long. I think I have it nailed down. I think it comes from certain apps that seem to run themselves. I have auto sync off, and I've DONE MY RESEARCH (some of which, I've yet to comprehend) I know not to use a task killer to routinely kill apps, and I know how the OS works, and allocates its RAM. So, I won't even worry about it if someone says these levels are normal.
Any tips on what I should do with my new phone? I saw a video that I can't find again, where this guy had his homescreen set up in such away, that the apps made this 3d cube of tiny boxes (apps) that moved like a rubik's cube. HOW DO I DO THAT!? It's not in any of the launchers I've tried. Anyways, thank you once again, XDA, you guys are awesome. I'm just a newb. Thank you to the users who made the guides!!
Ram is at 84% right now, NOT DOING ANYTHING!
Look at my guide that i have linked in my sig and read through the second post to find a custom rom that you like (i suggest Valhalla Black) and my guide tells you how to flash it. If you have questions, feel free to ask in the guide thread or pm me
And I believe the 3d cubes are part of SPB Shell launcher
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Thank you Julz! I have read your guide thoroughly. I know to search, and research before asking questions. Like I said, I'm just slightly still confused. Did I not put a custom ROM on my phone when I rooted it?
Do I have to factory restore, or uninstall the current ROM in some way before getting another?
Also, I think I fixed the RAM issue. What is normal levels for my device? I can't find normal RAM levels listed anywhere on the net for my device.
Read the first link in my signature as an addition to Juls' guide. After rooting GB you need a custom kernel. Look for SGS Kernel Flasher in either guide to take your next step.
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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Firmware: 2.3.6
Baseband: TE59VUVKJ6
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-sms-kj6-vo.1.0+
Build: GINGERBREAD.VUVKJ6
I used Heimdall to do this, as per the video guide I followed. I just downloaded Odin, for future tasks. I love the Norse theme to this stuff, I know the Eddas practically by heart, as well as the elder Futhark, and actual history of the ancient Scandanavian Vikings.
Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Thank you very much for the tip. Advice heeded! Now, do you know anything about my ram? Why my Go Task mnger is always reading that my RAM is almost always above 70% used?
Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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I've read the guides, the only thing I don't understand about that process, is that, will I need to set up all my apps again, am I starting my phone from scratch? Which ROM would you personally suggest?
When I'm using a custom ROM, am I restricted in any way? Can I still use the market?
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
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Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
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I didn't read that guide, becuase I'm not on Froyo
Read it.
One more thing. You say start from scratch... Factory Reset? So I will need to root again? Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
I mean with your apps. Factory reset won't unroot you. It isn't a bad idea to do a factory reset between flashings as a precautionary measure.
You shouldn't have to unlock again either.
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Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
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I'm on ATT as well and flash my phone all the time. I've never lost the unlock.
My brother, thank you so very much for the info! I have been reading the guide you mentioned, and now I know why. 2 guides in there! I can't thank you enough, I've hit thanks on all your replies here, because little by little, you're really helping my understanding of it all. It must be frustrating trying to help people like myself! Thanks for trying to push this stuff through my thick head! However, I've encountered another problem, following your guide:
Trying to back up my efs folder, using Astro File Manager... says it cannot do it! I guess this means I need something that requests superuser permissions?
Any program you would recommend? or can I just do it manually with my computer, like save it on my comp or something?
I recommend starting where it talks about SGS Kernel Flasher. Then once you have the custom kernel with CWM - do and nandroid back up and save the nandroid back up on your computer for safe keeping. That will have your efs folder within it. And I recommended Super Manager
And flash this kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25115050&postcount=1
I guess the kernel I have, doesn't have CWM. So, if I flash a new one, do I need to delete the one I have first or anything? Or just go about flashing a new one, like I never did one in the first place? I can try to find the video guide I followed if you think it will help.
Hey guys.
I have a rooted, unlocked bootloader, custom "recoveryed" Nexus 5, on stock 4.4.4 and stock kernel.
My question is, when Android L comes around, what should I do to update. Doing an OTA update is probably not the best idea right? Since I am rooted and have a custom recovery. So, what would be the steps to take to update. I don´t mind loosing root or making a fresh install.
Anyway just a noob question about something that I never had to do, since I rooted it on 4.4.4.
Thanks for your attention.
Flash a factory image.
Where can I get those?
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Where can I get those?
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On the Google site. Google "nexus factory images"
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You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
Don't use toolkits.
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rootSU said:
Don't use toolkits.
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why Ive been using the wugfresh forever now. On my nexus 5 and 7 with no issues.
tevil said:
You can OTA update fine. It will just remove root is all.
Get the wugfresh toolbox and reinstall root after. This is what I do every time.
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I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
PsychDrummer said:
I've been away from the Nexus 5 forum for a while, I come back and this is still happening. Please don't recommend rootkits for people who are clearly new to android modification. As said a million times on these forums, rootkits are fine if you know what you're doing but not for beginners. Beginners need to do things manually because they need to be able to fix their own mistakes if they're simple. Instead of going back here and asking very basic questions which they could have answered themselves if they didn't use a rootkit.
OP: Please do as @rootSU said and flash a factory image. His sig contains all the threads and information you need. It's a very handy tool which can fix your phone's software problems in almost any situation. Especially in the case of Android L (an update with HUGE internal changes), I highly recommend flashing factory image. This is what I will be doing. The factory image completely replaces your OS with stock.
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Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is. Also he obviously knows how to root and install custom Bls if hes done it before.
I very rarely pop in here anymore myself unless there is a major issue but doing things the way Ive been has pretty much eliminated those (jinx). Im still more on the Nexus S forum since I tinker with that more as my mp3 player.
He could always just take a backup before updating and dive in. Ive done that in the past with fine results.
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
tevil said:
Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
That made me think they were bad or something.
Technically like myself he is all stock he said, so aside root hes already pretty much stock OS.
Not sure where the animosity is.
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they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
tevil said:
Okay but thats a fine answer over "dont use rootkits"
Also even IF you do everything manually first and down the line screw up something theres a pretty BIG chance youll be here asking wtf happened. It happens to the best of us at one point or another.
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Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
Zepius said:
they are bad if you dont know what you're doing
the animosity comes in to play when you read the forums daily and you see threads saying "HELP i tried to use such and such toolkit and now my phone doesnt work"
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Well my bad, Ive never seen that. But toolkits (mainly this one) have very detailed instructions. Let alone the same issues happen when using ADB and push.
Its a double edged sword. I get the , go the long route first, which even I did (but also pre root kits), but In my own defense reading the OP he already did root and BL his phone (to my assumptions) so I didnt think my input was that bad.
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Yeah, but that's why we ask people to read all the threads before starting to mess with the device first. If you understand how the basic things work and what you're actually doing to achieve root, it's alot easier to troubleshoot very basic problems yourself. Of course for bigger issues people can feel free to post and get help. Also, if they did read everything and still messed up, when they post they're able to list the steps they've taken in the post so people can help them better. Otherwise, it becomes "help I messed up, I don't know what to do, I pressed the start button on the toolkit and my phone doesn't turn on."
Regarding the first part of your post, I still think it's just better to start fresh. Yeah, you can do a backup and try it but I honestly think it will be wasting time. It's always good to start fresh once in a while even if you don't use xposed/rooted apps. Eventually, your phone gets cluttered with apps and sometimes they conflict and you have battery issues, and other issues, etc. Since L is the biggest update to android since even I've been involved in it (I only started getting involved in XDA around 4.0), I would highly recommend everyone flashes the factory image and starts fresh. That way you will also know if there are bugs with L itself, or if's the fact that you installed on top of kitkat and all your prior data that's causing the issue. Anyway, no hard feelings. You said you don't spend a lot of time here so it's understandable.
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I hear ya.
I ran the L beta a while so honestly Im not that worried. JINX, Im sure you will be answering my HELP thread in 4 weeks! lol
There was no animosity from me. I simply said "don't use toolkits" and that was for good reasons which have been well written in the (General) sticky threads that all new users should read
The problem is we have to waste our time trying to explain what fastboot is to someone who broke their phone after only having used a toolkit. This is why we prefer people don't use them or recommend them.
On top of that,many toolkits are multi-device and this can cause bricks when faced with uneducated users.
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Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
J.Diogo said:
Yhea. I also remember, when I was first serching for ways to root the Nexus 5 on stock 4.4.4, I saw many warnings saying to not use toolkits.
I ended up usung CF-Auto-Root, wich is not a toolkit right? :-/
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Its not but it still sort of removes some of the manual steps we hope you would learn doing it all manually.
Best place to start is the general sticky thread. My adb and fastboot thread is designed to be a good start for people looking for basic info. Then anyone looking to actually root can move on to the rooting guides which employ much of what was learned in the former thread.
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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Right. I was checking the guide from the thread in your signature and saw the way you did the root. I've done the fastboot and bootloader unlock and all those thing, but when I got to the root part I used the CF-Auto-Root. Is this going to give me problems?
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No no. As a root method it works fine. Just not as an educational piece
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@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
larwindcunha said:
@rootSU your point being? I mean, isn't rooting with the CF Auto Root easier.
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you clearly didnt read.
good god look what I started lol.