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My phone has been charging awfully slow on the A/C Adapter. And it drain that battery on 3 hours. I'm still looking at what could've caused this.
Very good thus far. First charge was a little slow which I chalked up to conditioning.
Check Google Talk make sure you are not signed in. Open it, menu then settings and remove auto sign in. Then menu and sign out.
Make sure 4g isn't on
Make sure gps isn't on
Make sure bluetooth isn't on
Same with wifi unless you are using them. They are easy enough to turn on and off as needed.
Screen brightness to auto
Check facebook, twitter, weather etc.. refresh settings.
Check mail settings if not using IMAP. POP3 searching every 5 or 15 minutes in low signal areas can be a huge drain.
I also removed all the bloat crapware that I didn't want on anymore. I also used a program called "Startup Manager" to prevent all the other crap from loading all the time on reboot and randomly throughout the day.
The epic gets a little less signal than my EVO did. Although the EVO had 3 or 4 radio upgrades to get it where it is now but for now it is a little less which will use a little more power until we get a few updates.
I'm getting excellent life thus far.
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Very good thus far. First charge was a little slow which I chalked up to conditioning.
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When I got my phone, surprisingly it was almost drained. So I plugged it for about 3 hours and it completely charged. Now I put it on the AC Adapter and it was around 20% and when I look at the time 4 hours had passed by and still wasn't 100%. I would say it took 4 hours and 20 minutes. And I looked at the Battery used and it said 73% Display. The rest were like 5 things with 3 or 5%.
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I will make this short and sweet. I am arguing with my fiancee cause I just showed her two videos the Epic's camera and how they looks amazing. I saw a few videos taken today on the tube and this was to much to handle. I have an Evo and I compared and yes the Evo has more density due to the extra 3MP but the capture and sharpness of the Epic is amazing. The extra LED is great, a little brighter on Pictures. Not Much! The screen is a tad bit bigger, but horrid in the light, but who's outside like 24? Eh, I need everyone to convince me in.. So I have questions!
Dlna.. How has video Playback been?
Battery Life?
Smoothness, ADW Launcher Pro, Come on guys you know the drill..! I wanna know all the above!
Help another androidian get the Epic!
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Yes.. Yes..! Please Do so tell..
I will make this short and sweet. I am arguing with my fiancee cause I just showed her two videos the Epic's camera and how they looks amazing. I saw a few videos taken today on the tube and this was to much to handle. I have an Evo and I compared and yes the Evo has more density due to the extra 3MP but the capture and sharpness of the Epic is amazing. The extra LED is great, a little brighter on Pictures. Not Much! The screen is a tad bit bigger, but horrid in the light, but who's outside like 24? Eh, I need everyone to convince me in.. So I have questions!
Dlna.. How has video Playback been?
Battery Life?
Smoothness, ADW Launcher Pro, Come on guys you know the drill..!
Help another androidian get the Epic!
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I haven't messed with DLNA yet. Looks like you can stream from the PC and other media devices fairly easily with "All Share" but I haven't had a chance to mess with it. Basic codec support is still significantly better than the EVO. No need for rock player. Although the music player is different than the Touchwiz 3.0 devices which should be updated with Froyo.
My battery life has been equal to my Evo. Maybe a little better.
There is no comparison with smoothness or in Camera / video taking quality. The Epic beats the EVO hands down and this was the big reason my evo is on Ebay right now. Hands down the Epic wins.
Keyboard is very nice. Swype is also nice (had it on my evo as well).
Screen is much better and brighter. It seem to be easier to clean as well for whatever reason.
The downsides?
Nothing major that I can see. Developer support should be good since the Galaxy S has been released on every carrier. Porting to the Epic should be trivial once the keyboard files are isolated.
Regardless, the EVO needs to be rooted to even be a decent phone. The Epic far less so. I've removed some of the crap ware and stopped some of the auto starting apps and that is about it. Thus far the Epic has been very good. It does have a fair bit of crap preinstalled but its easy to remove.
I do find the Epic's screen, while better than the Evo, does seem a bit high in contrast. Its still much better in all regards IMO but I do notice it. We might be able to adjust this at some point.
The side power button is something to get used to, not a huge deal but odd.
Having the micro usb port up top is a mixed thing as well. Its a little farther from the power source if you are on the device talking to if your cord is short it could be an issue. Otherwise its easier to hold IMO without the cord and such getting in the way when resting in your hand while surfing.
I think JuiceDefender is killing my battery.. :S I used it Yesterday without Root and old apps and I could swear the phone lasted the whole day.
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I haven't messed with DLNA yet. Looks like you can stream from the PC and other media devices fairly easily with "All Share" but I haven't had a chance to mess with it. Basic codec support is still significantly better than the EVO. No need for rock player. Although the music player is different than the Touchwiz 3.0 devices which should be updated with Froyo.
My battery life has been equal to my Evo. Maybe a little better.
There is no comparison with smoothness or in Camera / video taking quality. The Epic beats the EVO hands down and this was the big reason my evo is on Ebay right now. Hands down the Epic wins.
Keyboard is very nice. Swype is also nice (had it on my evo as well).
Screen is much better and brighter. It seem to be easier to clean as well for whatever reason.
The downsides?
Nothing major that I can see. Developer support should be good since the Galaxy S has been released on every carrier. Porting to the Epic should be trivial once the keyboard files are isolated.
Regardless, the EVO needs to be rooted to even be a decent phone. The Epic far less so. I've removed some of the crap ware and stopped some of the auto starting apps and that is about it. Thus far the Epic has been very good. It does have a fair bit of crap preinstalled but its easy to remove.
I do find the Epic's screen, while better than the Evo, does seem a bit high in contrast. Its still much better in all regards IMO but I do notice it. We might be able to adjust this at some point.
The side power button is something to get used to, not a huge deal but odd.
Having the micro usb port up top is a mixed thing as well. Its a little farther from the power source if you are on the device talking to if your cord is short it could be an issue. Otherwise its easier to hold IMO without the cord and such getting in the way when resting in your hand while surfing.
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That's perfect, I still need to hear if it gives errors in the DLNA playback. From TV 2 PS3 whichever anyone can confirm. I know the Evo has codec issues when playing video from it. Just wanted to be sure this was not an issue in it there.
Otherwise the camera quality yes is amazing on the epic. I dint get it the Evo is 8mp, err? Anyways I am happy, I am going to exchange my Evo from what it looks like. I guess I have to get used to not having sense anymore. Thats about it.
More would be great if anyone cares to share to a fellow Evo pondered mind?
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Well. I'm gonna find a way to remove root. Since I am 100% sure its draining my battery and fast. It's either that or Juice Defender (Plotter) I took it out of the charger at 5 am, left it on my bed and when I checked on it 55 minutes later it was 94%.
Battery life is exactly the same, all we did was root there are no ROMs to install which could impact battery in a positive or negative way so far. Again all we did was gain super user permissions root does not impact battery life whatsoever.
My battery life appears to drain slower now that I've rooted, that probably is because I have SetCPU underclocking my phone to 200mhz when the screen is off so it won't waste battery. Also if you are draining quickly you can look in Settings> About Phone> Battery Usage as to what is using the most battery. A good chance if you have f.e. Live Wallpapers on or something is that they will drain your battery. Also depending on what you have enabled for email syncing, etc. that may play a role. I keep my phone signed into Google Talk + Google Sync + TouchDown Exchange syncing all day and seem to have no issue at all. (I was at 60% after a full day's use yesterday, and that included some foray into the world of 4G in the area.
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My battery life appears to drain slower now that I've rooted, that probably is because I have SetCPU underclocking my phone to 200mhz when the screen is off so it won't waste battery. Also if you are draining quickly you can look in Settings> About Phone> Battery Usage as to what is using the most battery. A good chance if you have f.e. Live Wallpapers on or something is that they will drain your battery. Also depending on what you have enabled for email syncing, etc. that may play a role. I keep my phone signed into Google Talk + Google Sync + TouchDown Exchange syncing all day and seem to have no issue at all. (I was at 60% after a full day's use yesterday, and that included some foray into the world of 4G in the area.
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All of those settings are off. Email, Facebook, No LWP, no SetCPU. I really think its juice defender the culprit here. Cause it all happened when I restored my apps using Titanium Backup.
When you restored did you restore the apps plus data or the apps by themselves? When you add the data in that can lead to problems because the data was for another phone.
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When you restored did you restore the apps plus data or the apps by themselves? When you add the data in that can lead to problems because the data was for another phone.
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There isn't a backup in Titanium Backup of only apps. You can restore Apps with Data only.
Slow battery charging via USB after rooting? unplug the USB, go to settings and disable USB debugging. Plug the cable back in and select "Charging" from the pop-up.
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i to have noticed significant drain after the one click root process... i have had my phone running for maby 4 hours off a full and with it in my pocket it can go dead.... doesnt happen all the time and i must say as well that the charging is extremely slow for me as well... hopefully there is a fix for this soon.. might have to do a restore and see if that helps.
been off the charger for for 12 hours and 12 minutes and I am at 41 percent
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been off the charger for for 12 hours and 12 minutes and I am at 41 percent
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Ok i think i figured out the problem, i rerooted with the newest version and already noticed a difference since the splash screen is back again... to the op try to reroot with the updates from today
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There isn't a backup in Titanium Backup of only apps. You can restore Apps with Data only.
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Ummm... Yes you can. Open up Titanium Back up, press Menu -> Batch -> (Choose your restore function), then tap the radio button next to "App Only" instead of "App+Data". You can even just restore the data instead of the app!
Am I the only one?
I upgraded to a native android device from a modded HTC HD2 to hopefully have a longer battery experience.
This battery is absolutely trash. My 2 year old HTC HD2 running Sense Android Non-Native ran at almost exactly the same.
I tested my HTC HD2 side by side with a close friend who has an Evo 4g.. Both Devices still being HORRIBLE in battery life performed almost IDENTICAL.
HTC HD2 is TWO YEARS old, why is it so close in performance to our device..
I love the phone in general, it's snappy (once i removed all bloatware).. Boots fast, runs nice.. i have very few complaints about it.
But how does an 1100 MaH battery run the SAME as an 1600 MaH battery?
I thought technology is supposed to improve, but my non native android phone ran almost the same as this one. Took longer to restart/boot up, but general speed is the same, larger screen size.. similar settings, and same battery life. Pisses me off frankly.
That's how I felt. hopefully we will get rom's or gingerbread on this phone soon that will improve battery life. And by gingerbread I mean the leak from Samsung for the i9000. I've been reading reviews and it seems like it Greatly improved battery while speeding up the phone a lot.
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I have to disagree. I've owned may android phones including the evo. This phone has the best battery life in my opinion. I can easily make it almost all day with use without charging
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Well like I said, i admittedly abuse the phone.. but I'm comparing to other phones getting equal abuse. It stands up about the same, better yes, but not by much.
If I'm barely using it however.. let's say, mainly just texting, yes it will last all day. But that never really happens.
I love how people admit that they "abuse" the phone all day and then complain that the battery life sucks. If you're going to use your phone that much, bring your usb cord. Or strap a battery pack to yourself and plug it in for "all day" use and abuse.
It's the screen. If you want the super amoled you have to put up with the battery.
What i don't understand is that why the Droid x which has similar specs to our phone can go up to 10 hours of continuous web browsing when our phone/vibrant can only go up to 4 according to tests. Is it because of the screen? If it is then that's just stupid.
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It was horrible for me at first, but I then realized the system has to calibrate the battery first. I am getting about 16-20 hours with moderate usage now, which is better than the G2 I had before.
My g2 can go up to 28 hours with light texting and 2 hours of web browsing through wifi and 10 minutes of calls (manual syncs and low brightness also). Once I use the gps and browse through hspa, it's a different story. My sister has a SGS4G and her battery seems to drain faster than mine.
Oh, and if I keep my phone charged for a while after reaching the 100% mark, it stays at 100% even after 1 hour of heavy browsing and watching videos. I think we should all just assume that the battery meters are inaccurate.
I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.
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I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.
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WHAT? I have brightness on minimum with juice defender and all I get is 8 hours Max. All i really do on this phone is text and play words with friends so its not like i am abusing it or anything.
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How did you calibrate thee battery
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let the phone die, to the maximus. meaning once it turns off, turn on again until it doesnt turn on anymore. Now fully charge it, once again when fully charged restart the phone and charge it to 100 again. then let it die again, and full charge. should be fine then
i bought a 3500mah extended battery for my phone. the battery is designed to work with vibrant. it really made my life a lot easier.
I noticed if I set the phone to GSM only, battery lasts almost twice as long. If I'm on auto select (WCDMA/GSM), it lasts from 7AM till about 4PM.
But then again, I don't have a very good 3G/4G reception (or 2G connection for that matter), so my phone is probably working extra hard to find signal all day long.
The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.
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The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.
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Same here.
I used to only have dark wallpapers and take all the other extra steps for my battery to make it through the work day, and as soon as i got home i had to charge it.
I'm now running fireflies live wallpaper, abusing the phone a little more then what i used to, and i still have battery to spare, not by the time i get home, but by the time i go to bed!!
i also have installed bali. seems to do well, as said its all about the brightness.
My problem with this phone is that wifi uses way too much battery. I have it to turn off when phone is asleep but i'll have the phone at 100% with wifi on. Put it on sleep. 4 hours later. battery is at 65%.
If i have wifi turned off. Battery will be at 98%.
Look, this may not be a 28nm quad core phone with a 4.5" IPS 720p display, but we're getting there.
This is the best LTE phone still. Samsung has the AMOLED, but HTC gave this one the dual radio chipset and 4 antenna to give you the best reception, and since this phone is all about LTE, that's what makes it the best.
Battery life is the boon of LTE. You can get 3 hours of mobile hotspot if you're serious, but take today for example. Been at work for 4 hours with wifi on, and my battery still hasn't hit 80%.
Why is it I see everyone complain about the TB battery life?
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Why is it I see everyone complain about the TB battery life?
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Because its easy to drain. The phone has a smaller than average battery and the 4G tech is power hungry.
I've had the phone since release, and I'm always testing tweaks to improve the battery life. This phone is a beast, so it can tear through the stock battery, depending on your use. I only have experience with the TB on LTE though, so I'm not sure how it is for the Charge. I wouldn't trade the TB for anything else though.
been using the phone for about a week and battery life really depends on how its used. for example, on days im constantly texting and using apps, the battery lasts me only half a day. but yesterday i was heading into nyc and needed the phone to last me the whole day and once i limited my usage of it, it did last. the phone doesnt drain battery very fast unless its under intense usage.
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been using the phone for about a week and battery life really depends on how its used. for example, on days im constantly texting and using apps, the battery lasts me only half a day. but yesterday i was heading into nyc and needed the phone to last me the whole day and once i limited my usage of it, it did last. the phone doesnt drain battery very fast unless its under intense usage.
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The problem with that statement is we shouldn't be forced to limit our phone use to make it through a day. I am not advocating heavy usage...2 days worth of battery etc, but under normal daily conditions the battery should make it through a day...meaning a combination of all the general things done on a smartphone, and then kinda averaged out to make it thorugh 10 or 12 hours.
I know all the arguments about it all ways...all I am saying is a smartphone should make it through a normal day usage...almost as a standard.
I am still torn on the phone...but I have trouble making decisions for myself...so no suprise to me there...I like some of the features of the phone, but really am just blah on it. The power button is under sensitive, the volume buttons overly sensitive and IMO in the wrong spot...dislike the feel of it in my hand *(had it since Tuesday).
The only appealing factor to me is the fact that AOSP has made it (and HTC's recent annoucement regarding unlocked bootloaders...makes me want to buy into the cause....and is what is deterring me from other LTE phones (I dont know why I give it so much thought we won't have LTE here til sometime before December (hopefully)...I just was ready for an upgrade, figured why not get at least unlimited LTE til sometime in 2013 (at the least..)
I am leaning heavily on bring this back for the charge...or waiting til the bionic....though AOSP is a very important factor for me in choosing a phone
I haven't had my Thunderbolt for long, but I'm enjoying it so far. I've liked HTC phones since my days with WinMo, and the TB is an evolutionary, not revolutionary, step up from the Incredible that I replaced. Digging the larger screen and LTE is fast in my area (Pittsburgh). I think it has a better feel than the Incredible, too. I didn't mind the tiered back, but it felt mostly plasticky. The TB definitely seems to be made out of higher-quality materials.
Battery life is it's weakness, though, but it's not a deal breaker. I can go from the time I wake up until the time I go to bed with it, for the most part (although I was able to go 2 days on a charge with the Incredible). I don't think I'm a particularly heavy user, though... an hour of talking, maybe a dozen texts, an hour on the internet, and sporadic checking of my email or Twitter. I keep my brightness set to about 30%, GPS and Bluetooth are off, all vibration is off, Twitter and email are set to update manually. Weather updates every three hours, contacts whenever.
So far I really like my TB. Battery life isn't the greatest but there are people working on that.
We weren't supposed to get 4G until Dec also but it showed up a few days ago.
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Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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Is not.
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cowisland said:
Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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I wouldn't say it's crappy. I'm not getting static or anything on it. But it does sound a little tinnier than my Incredible did.
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The problem with that statement is we shouldn't be forced to limit our phone use to make it through a day. I am not advocating heavy usage...2 days worth of battery etc, but under normal daily conditions the battery should make it through a day...meaning a combination of all the general things done on a smartphone, and then kinda averaged out to make it thorugh 10 or 12 hours.
I know all the arguments about it all ways...all I am saying is a smartphone should make it through a normal day usage...almost as a standard.
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This is the primary reason I hate my TB. I use Exchange and Gmail push mail and I have done everything I could to reduce battery life, incl. limiting background data like weather, but my phone still only last 5 hours under normal usage. My old iPhone 4, with the same usage, will last another 3 hors at the minimum.
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This is the primary reason I hate my TB. I use Exchange and Gmail push mail and I have done everything I could to reduce battery life, incl. limiting background data like weather, but my phone still only last 5 hours under normal usage. My old iPhone 4, with the same usage, will last another 3 hors at the minimum.
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Wow, 5 hours? That's crazy.
I use my phone to stream music for about 1 - 3 hours a day, sync google calendar, contacts, and gmail, and weather widget and I can get about 20 hours. If I start playing games or make long phone calls, that definitely makes a difference. But I can easily get 20 hours with moderate usage.
Have you thought or rooting and running a different ROM/kernel? I'm running Tesla Coil with leankernel and I love it!
edit: I also leave wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on all day. Wifi is set to sleep after 15 minutes. I'm also in a 4G area.
Well... that is the problem. I'm trying to use my TB professionally. I use it to join conf calls, always with my bluetooth headset, check and reply company emails, etc.
It just doesn't cut it. I always have to recharge it mid day. I never had to do the same with my BlackBerry Curve or Tmobile G2, specially the G2.
Problem is not always I have the option to recharge. And just the fact that I have to pay attention and monitor battery level is not good.
I need a phone that I can use A LOT for email (a lot!!!) and calls, several calls per day, with bluetooth. The TB is not this phone.
I've had mine sine thursday and the battery sucks. It reminds me of the original droid which I ultimately had to buy the Seido extended battery for to get the use I wanted out of it.
If you leave it in 3g it will go all day. On Friday my wife and I went looking at houses (we're shopping to buy) using my wifi xoom to do research while accessing data through the mobile hotspot. We drove around for about 4 hours and the TBolt still had 50%charge when I got home and I still had power when I put it on charge at bedtime. This was on 3g though.
Yesterday we did the same thing but I left 4G on. We drove off at about 2:00PM with a 90% charge on the phone. By 3:15 it was down to 39%. That's ridiculous, and the phone was crazy hot too.
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I've had mine sine thursday and the battery sucks. It reminds me of the original droid which I ultimately had to buy the Seido extended battery for to get the use I wanted out of it.
If you leave it in 3g it will go all day. On Friday my wife and I went looking at houses (we're shopping to buy) using my wifi xoom to do research while accessing data through the mobile hotspot. We drove around for about 4 hours and the TBolt still had 50%charge when I got home and I still had power when I put it on charge at bedtime. This was on 3g though.
Yesterday we did the same thing but I left 4G on. We drove off at about 2:00PM with a 90% charge on the phone. By 3:15 it was down to 39%. That's ridiculous, and the phone was crazy hot too.
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You are probably in a sketchy 4g area and probably used more data. Both will make a huge difference in battery life.
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You are probably in a sketchy 4g area and probably used more data. Both will make a huge difference in battery life.
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Maybe, but it appears to have a pretty good signal. I haven't been watching that cloely but when I have looked it hasn't had below two bars. They claim the whole city is well covered and quite a bit of the countryside around it. Jacksonville Fl. may not have the *most* in population but it is the *biggest* city in the state.
The TB is Verizon's first CDMA+LTE phone & has its shortcomings, just like any other 1st-gen technology. The battery is only 1400mah, so don't expect it to last as long as 3G-only phones with similar battery size. You can extend battery life by disabling nonessential apps/services & turning off 4G when you don't need it. You can also flash a custom rom & battery sipping kernel, but a lot of ppl are not willing to go that far, especially with the recent bricking issues. The best way to ensure you have enough juice w/o recharging is to buy an extra battery & charger. You can get both from ebay for less than $20. Then you won't have to gimp your TB just to make it through the day
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I said the phone on t-bolt was crappy. People who said the word crappy was inappropriate were correct, thanks for that, it is not crappy. But, coming off at&t iPhone I immediately noticed that t-bolt did not sound as good, and this he first time ever I noticed a difference in call sound when switching phones, so got a bit upsetting I guess. By now I am used to it and sounds ok to me.
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When you realize that this phone is more powerful than the computer I took to college and it's running on a battery the size of a saltine cracker, it's only logical that it won't last all day if you're using it nonstop.
Older phones seemed to last forever because all it did was make calls and the occasional text. I had the original enV and if I sat around using AIM and playing what few games were available the battery drained like my bank account at a strip club. Android phones? Fugeddaboutit. We're talking, texting, streaming, listening, WiFi hotspotting, playing, and recording all day long and DON'T think we'll need a power boost? Puh-lease.
Buy a spare battery, keep a charger handy, or just use it more conservatively.
Hey Nexus S forum! hope everyone's enjoying I used to have an iPhone 4 and now after much thinking between the arc and nexus S went for the arc. It is not a bad phone, but I am not satisfied because of the following:
- Battery life sucks, as in with light-moderate usage. For a perspective (since I suck horribly at figuring out how to take a screenshot off the arc), I made an hour long call (59:34 mins to be exact), played around on FPSe for 12 mins, had music playing for around 48 mins, and rest idle with background data off, 3g and wifi off and at low signal areas even airplane mode on.
I get around 16 hrs with just this much usage. I am a heavy user with streaming/music and IM but the battery life drops like a rock once I try any of the two things simultaneously. And it is quite a tease having to keep brightness at minimum all the time.
- Headphones, good headphones, but I cannot use my 3rd party JVC ones which I could with the iPhone. What's the deal? It seems true you need only sony headphones for it...
- Performance: too many browser and ebuddy force closures Especially with setcpu on conservative.
Since its a branded arc I cannot tweak it except for apps. Now I am thinking I should have chosen a Nexus S since it is available on Rogers and the screen looks better to me. Camera I haven't checked but from forum pics thread it looks comparable to the iPhone 4 which is a plus anyway.
I am not going back to the iPhone 4 after experiencing android, but I need a better battery life and if not stock then at least the availability to tweak it using a kernel that will take care of it.
So any of you Nexus S users having that great battery life many forum reviews mention? What about after kernel tweaks. I am thinking of keeping the NS untill fall when the SGS2 will be available on Rogers. I am also a bit of a tweaker and the arc while being "sexy" is not modifiable much.
Thanks!!
from my experience, i dont think nexus s battery life will be any longer than arc. anyway it depends very much on the apps that you installed...
my NS battery life is ard 18-20hrs avg, with moderate usage like
-brightness auto
-backgrd sync ( turned off for fb, twitter)
-15 mins of Modern Combat 2
-90mins of Music
-20min of Web browsing
-15 min of Fb-ing
-The rest of the time are left idling...
all these values are approximate values...
hope it helps
Note: do check up Manage Applications -> Running to see what apps are running, used to install tap tap revenge and realised from there it sucked lotsa battery juice.
phonex1 said:
Hey Nexus S forum! hope everyone's enjoying I used to have an iPhone 4 and now after much thinking between the arc and nexus S went for the arc. It is not a bad phone, but I am not satisfied because of the following:
- Battery life sucks, as in with light-moderate usage. For a perspective (since I suck horribly at figuring out how to take a screenshot off the arc), I made an hour long call (59:34 mins to be exact), played around on FPSe for 12 mins, had music playing for around 48 mins, and rest idle with background data off, 3g and wifi off and at low signal areas even airplane mode on.
I get around 16 hrs with just this much usage. I am a heavy user with streaming/music and IM but the battery life drops like a rock once I try any of the two things simultaneously. And it is quite a tease having to keep brightness at minimum all the time.
- Headphones, good headphones, but I cannot use my 3rd party JVC ones which I could with the iPhone. What's the deal? It seems true you need only sony headphones for it...
- Performance: too many browser and ebuddy force closures Especially with setcpu on conservative.
Since its a branded arc I cannot tweak it except for apps. Now I am thinking I should have chosen a Nexus S since it is available on Rogers and the screen looks better to me. Camera I haven't checked but from forum pics thread it looks comparable to the iPhone 4 which is a plus anyway.
I am not going back to the iPhone 4 after experiencing android, but I need a better battery life and if not stock then at least the availability to tweak it using a kernel that will take care of it.
So any of you Nexus S users having that great battery life many forum reviews mention? What about after kernel tweaks. I am thinking of keeping the NS untill fall when the SGS2 will be available on Rogers. I am also a bit of a tweaker and the arc while being "sexy" is not modifiable much.
Thanks!!
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Well I must confess I am not surprised but still its shocking that you decided to go with ARC over Nexus S. Its anyone's personal preference.
My Two Cents...
NS Battery life for me runs anywhere between 12 hours to 30 hours depending how much I use it. If I play games on it, few phone calls and background sync on all time, with screen auto brightness, news reading for abour 30 mins in morning, 3G or WiFI on, BT on, when I leave for work in morning at 8, battery is fully charged, by 8 pm, if i did all mentioned above, I would generally be at 25%.
With no games all day, I still can squeeze an entire night and would probably not charge till I reach work next morning. That means around 24 hours of usage.
Comparing NS with ARC, NS has a better screen, less MP camera, but 8.1 MP doesn't really mean anything to me as one of my buddy has it and I hate it.
I have used iPhone/HTC/Motorola Headphones with my NS and they all work.
So far I have never experienced a single force close problem with my NS.
ARC still doesn't have any dev support, but NS, man, you can unlock the bootloader and do whatever you want to do with your phone. Root it, tweak it, custom ROM it(Here is the link to all the available ROM summary http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067813)...
Phone is really light in weight, I love the Contour Display/Curvy screen, I wouldn't be sold for the Sony Bravia Engine display.
Its capable of playing almost all the games available in market as of today, I haven't seen any performance Lag.
I think you would be better off getting a NS over ARC. Again, its just my My Two Cents...
Good Luck!!!
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Hey deplate07, are you running it stock or modded? Because I had a captivate with a week with firefly rom and it matched my iphone's battery life with heavy usage. I still regret selling it at times. If ns can do same after modding than sure, I will happily switch because what use is bravia engine and 3g when both are constantly off to save battery and I still get just 16 hrs
Also considering the atrix
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Nexus S for the win! You can just use UV kernel to save your battery life
Although I'd recommend the S based on my own experience, I would caution you not to expect miracles in battery life vis a vis the Arc. I would haver rated the 16 hours you're getting as pretty good. Coming from the iPhone to Android you do have to be a bit more proactive in managing battery life -- dimming the display and shortening the display timeout, turning off unused radios, etc.
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gun26 said:
Although I'd recommend the S based on my own experience, I would caution you not to expect miracles in battery life vis a vis the Arc. I would haver rated the 16 hours you're getting as pretty good. Coming from the iPhone to Android you do have to be a bit more proactive in managing battery life -- dimming the display and shortening the display timeout, turning off unused radios, etc.
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Problem is on the arc I am not even doing much. My brightness is at minimujm at all times. Backlight is off. Bravia engine is off. 3G is on probably 5 mins. for a day only. Wifi is rarely on. Music playback just 30 mins. And only 5-10 mins calls.
This is madness. I probably should have not complained and researched before hand but if people are saying they are getting 16 hours with 50% brightness, syncing at regular intervals, calls and decent music playback I would happily take the 16 hours.
At least the NS can be modded. I think i'll be switching in a couple days with this or a captivate and see how it turns out.
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Hey deplate07, are you running it stock or modded? Because I had a captivate with a week with firefly rom and it matched my iphone's battery life with heavy usage. I still regret selling it at times. If ns can do same after modding than sure, I will happily switch because what use is bravia engine and 3g when both are constantly off to save battery and I still get just 16 hrs
Also considering the atrix
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Yeap, I'm running stock ROM... I think up to date nexus s and nexus one is the most optimized and up to date android phone.
By the way I don't turn off 3G, and one thing I'm sure is that nexus s is pretty easy on battery when idling ...
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Ok so GB is up and running since yesterday at about 5:30pm.
The phone seems snappier and quicker and has a different look to it, but the one thing I was hoping for was better battery life and it seems the same if worse.
I have had any reboots yet, but I'm not willing to say that the issue has been fixed because I don't get them everyday.
If this isn't the official TMO/LG fix, do you guys think there is still a chance they will address battery life because they didn't do anything IMO.
I have to agree. My battery life is no better then it was from FroYo. This better not be the official release.
My battery life is way better on this stock GB than on the stock FROYO. Maybe you have an application that is persistently hogging resources?
I think you may be right. I just noticed that TeleNav was stuck in a continuous restart. I never even opened that POS software. Cannot wait to root with SuperOneClick.
Yeah android as a whole OS needs to release a major update concerning battery life, its easier said than done though the hardware is different on every phone.
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Just another quick piece of advice. If you are coming from a different ROM and/or different kernel let the battery charge to 100 then unplug from charger > Boot into CWM > advanced > Wipe Battery Stats
Exactly, which is why the manufacturers really need to fix battery life for each of the phones they put out.
I really want to wait for ice cream sandwich, but if I get the chance to get an iphone4 I'm going for it, even though it might be considered a downgrade specs wise, the apps, and better battery life make up for all the losses.
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Why wouldn't you wait for the five to come out?
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Well I don't really have cash to spend on a iphone5, if I can do an even trade for the 4 I will.
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Ok so GB is up and running since yesterday at about 5:30pm.
The phone seems snappier and quicker and has a different look to it, but the one thing I was hoping for was better battery life and it seems the same if worse.
I have had any reboots yet, but I'm not willing to say that the issue has been fixed because I don't get them everyday.
If this isn't the official TMO/LG fix, do you guys think there is still a chance they will address battery life because they didn't do anything IMO.
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I decided to use the rooted version that came about yesterday afternoon and let it fully charge overnight and I've had it off my charger for 2hrs. My battery got worse, I'm now at 85% and all I've done was watch 2 short videos and came here a few times for a few mins. Also downloaded the newest cm7 nightly.
Overall I'm not impressed with the work LG put into this, seems like this was the CEOs teenage stepsons work so he could have his devs work on their other pos electronics.
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kdunn1994 said:
Well I don't really have cash to spend on a iphone5, if I can do an even trade for the 4 I will.
I really want to wait for ice cream sandwich, but if I get the chance to get an iphone4 I'm going for it, even though it might be considered a downgrade specs wise, the apps, and better battery life make up for all the losses.
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A friendly word of advice. I came from the iPhone4 to the G2x. Even with the shortcomings this phone has had the iPhone 4 will only make you want your G2x back. Getting caught up in Apple's iron fist of control over your device sucks. I have had every iPhone since the original release. The battery life is decent on the iPhone 4, but not any better in my opinion than what I am getting now since I flashed a different ROM. So from experience I can say that is not a good thing.
I am running CM7 with faux's kernel on my G2x. since doing that I have had great battery life, no re-boots and no other issues. If you haven't done that it's worth a try.
Yeah, now with ios 5 u are no.longer tied down to iTunes, I have tried just about all the roms and kernel combinations, the best I got was 15 hours with heavy optimization that was running cm7 with faux oc UV kernel with set CPU profiles and juice defender, basically I disabled every feature that made my phone a smartphone, if I recall when I had an iPhone 3g (and the 4's battery has to.be better) I never needed to carry around my charger and I could actually play games, I just dropped from 100% to 90% in 27min, cmon, this is running the phone how it was made to run with gb rom from yesterday and bloat removed w root at 20% brightness.
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Whenever I want serious battery life, I just turn on wifi calling. Since it disables the cellular radio completely I get way, way, way more battery time out of it. Just the other day I had the phone off the charger for 18 hours and was at 40% battery life. This on on the stock rom.
I manage cell phones and can confidently say that even the iphone users are unhappy with their battery life, as is nearly every smartphone user coming from a dumbphone or a blackberry.
Oh and I forgot to add, with ios5 you still are forced to use itunes for all of your music and syncing, you just don't have to physically hook up the cables. It's like a wireless tether sync.
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Yeah, now with ios 5 u are no.longer tied down to iTunes, I have tried just about all the roms and kernel combinations, the best I got was 15 hours with heavy optimization that was running cm7 with faux oc UV kernel with set CPU profiles and juice defender, basically I disabled every feature that made my phone a smartphone, if I recall when I had an iPhone 3g (and the 4's battery has to.be better) I never needed to carry around my charger and I could actually play games, I just dropped from 100% to 90% in 27min, cmon, this is running the phone how it was made to run with gb rom from yesterday and bloat removed w root at 20% brightness.
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Apple has absolute control over everything software and hardware, allowing for ultimate optimization. Add that to the massive battery and lack of true multitasking and you have a phone that will last a long time.
What you describe should not be happening though, and I suggest trying juice defender and reading on battery saving tips for android. But understand that phones are getting more powerful, while battery tech stays the same.
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I've done all that, today I'm gonna use my phone the way it was meant to be used, I'm thinking of buying a 3500ma battery off of eBay for $10.
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jrfaulkin said:
My battery life is way better on this stock GB than on the stock FROYO. Maybe you have an application that is persistently hogging resources?
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I don't think I do. I have had this crappy battery life since release day. I tried the factory reset stuff and ran with no apps. Once I noticed it didn't improve battery life I put the apps back on.
To me it is just the cell stand by/phone idle stuff always killing my battery.
I would love to use the wifi calling, but it didn't work very well at my house (no option to do so at work).
For people with battery life changes....Did you just upgrade to GB via the ROM available, or did you use the LG Tool that also updated basebands?
My phone is great on Froyo with the exception of battery life. I had read GB has better battery life. Trying to determine if changing the basebands will also help.
Any advice?
If you think you have bad battery life, my friend has an HTC Thunderbolt he tells me he only gets 4 hours of battery life... Takes him 6 hours to charge to full, 10 AM disconnects from his charger and at 2PM he has less than 10% left.
I get less than four hours if I don't turn off the screen, and constantly use my phone with brightness at 25%.
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