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HTC Thunderbolt Bootloader Unlocked, ClockworkMod Recovery Loaded

YES!!! Awesome work devs!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
*EDIT* Sorry, I didn't realize this was already posted/linked in both of the root threads under the Development section. Mods please feel free to remove...

hellz yeah!

Hahajahhahahahahahahahaha
That's the pre production device that was shipped with s-off so no work was needed to root
So no, its not happened yet
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no its not. the pre production device says HTC at the top not verizon!

Photoshop my friend.... photoshop
Plus cwm is at 3.0.0.8 not .5 so why would the load a old recovery?
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superchilpil said:
Photoshop my friend.... photoshop
Plus cwm is at 3.0.0.8 not .5 so why would the load a old recovery?
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EDIT: removed link just to keep from confusing anybody...

chimpsnest said:
Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bolt-instructions-by-team-andirc-v1-20110318/
It has been done.
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FYI, that's the "old" method that does NOT have S-OFF and you CANNOT load a custom recovery.
What is posted in the OP is apparently new and just done late last night. It allows S-OFF and loading of custom recoveries. That's different than what is posted in your link.
Not really sure what is happening at the moment....

mrjinglesusa said:
FYI, that's the "old" method that does NOT have S-OFF and you CANNOT load a custom recovery.
What is posted in the OP is apparently new and just done late last night. It allows S-OFF and loading of custom recoveries. That's different than what is posted in your link.
Not really sure what is happening at the moment....
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Yes, sorry, true true, my excited brain is over zealous this morning - stay tuned.

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Yes, sorry, true true, my excited brain is over zealous this morning - stay tuned.
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Ha ha. No worries, everyone is excited about this. Just trying to keep people from getting confused!
What we know:
1) Originally, on March 18, they had a "dirty" perm-root method that required loading an old version of the software. This gave root, but no S-OFF and no way to load a custom recovery. There are instructions posted for this method.
2) Late last night, they managed to find a "new" root method and gives S-OFF and allows loading a custom recovery. This news is posted in the link in the OP of this thread. At this time, they have not yet posted the method for doing this. I expect we'll see it later today when they wake up. LOL
So patience guys and gals, we'll have FULL root, S-OFF, and custom recovery of our TBs very soon!

mrjinglesusa said:
Ha ha. No worries, everyone is excited about this. Just trying to keep people from getting confused!
What we know:
1) Originally, on March 18, they had a "dirty" perm-root method that required loading an old version of the software. This gave root, but no S-OFF and no way to load a custom recovery. There are instructions posted for this method.
2) Late last night, they managed to find a "new" root method and gives S-OFF and allows loading a custom recovery. This news is posted in the link in the OP of this thread. At this time, they have not yet posted the method for doing this. I expect we'll see it later today when they wake up. LOL
So patience guys and gals, we'll have FULL root, S-OFF, and custom recovery of our TBs very soon!
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Anything that is faster than the ****ing root time on the Incredible is fine by me. That was a painful thing to wait for.

I have been following the developement on the andirc channel. these guys are amazing! As long as HTC's software policies remain what they are today, I will no longer be purchasing moto phones. I had to suffer through the DX's bootloader fiasco after coming from the OG D1. DX devs made it bearable, but custom kernals...no. Thanks for all the work jcase and company!

I'm a relative newb as far as hacking and even I got root + S-OFF + unlocked eMMC + Clockwork, etc working as per the rooting instructions updated today on AndroidPolice. It has been done and these guys and gals are that much more amazing for it.
The only question is: how the hell do you select an option in Clockwork recovery? On my Droid I could use the camera button, but here the Power, Home, and Menu button all just hide the menu. Vol keys only scroll. /confused

I haven't actually rooted mine yet as I'm a wuss and waiting for a one-click, but I read tonight that Kousch (sp?) already made an updated CWM to fix that issue on the TB. Maybe try updating via ROM Manager?
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PorscheGuy said:
I haven't actually rooted mine yet as I'm a wuss and waiting for a one-click, but I read tonight that Kousch (sp?) already made an updated CWM to fix that issue on the TB. Maybe try updating via ROM Manager?
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I'm right there with you, I rooted my D1 back before any of the oneclick solutions existed using the Motorola flashing software. I extremely tempted to try installing abd on my Linux machine and give it a shot but I'm a little scared too having never used adb before. And it seems that there's still. A few bugs to work out so I will let them get those straight. I'm hoping too one click root by Tuesday and ROM by months end. Hopefully on CM7.x
Also hi everyone! Been lurking here since I picked up the thunderbolt Thursday morning. Can't wait to crack this thing open. SenseUI is driving me nuts.

Rooted and removed bloat from my TB! I love it!

Hello Board Members. I just signed up today as I picked up my TB yesterday. I'm a former iPhone user (since 2009) and then went to Verizon for a Droid X. This new phone came out, so we dropped the X and went for the TB. Just my short intro to the Android world.
Anywho, for those that rooted the TB, was it a painless process? And the instructions posted on the AndroidPolice post (saw it in Google), do I run all of this from the TB or on the computer?

Milestone xt720 we dont get support from developer

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I think it would be very hard to develop for a phone without having that specific model especially if your talking about ROM development.

The peolple that have develope floyo hands out to them im talking about out side developers none want to touch this phone same on them.
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why don't you start developing yourself?

From what I can understand, you are expecting people who do not own this phone to spend hours/days/weeks of their time developing on this phone for free. If that's correct then you are making an absurd complaint.
It's absolutely amazing that we have people like Khal, Mioe7ae and others working on the XT720 like they do for no charge. It is semi-understandable in their case though since they have the XT720 and therefore do gain somewhat from their hard work (even so, it's still amazing what they do for us for free). To expect developers to give up their time to work on a phone they don't own for free (not to mention the fact that it's more difficult to develop on a phone you don't have like 3rdstring said) is just plain absurd. To say "shame on them" for not working on it -like you are entitled to have a team of slaves working 24/7 to make your phone better - is just downright disrespectful.
Forgive me if I've misunderstood what you're saying.

I fully agree to syrenz. It´s amazing what the guys here do for us!
I´m really impressed how people from all over the world can work together to create better software for our phone!
Thank you for this!

agreed 100%

I not talking about are people have done great i would to see some take some interst in the xt720 we have possiable was of making this phone true open source.
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Bootloader locked...full stop..

I think we should be thankful that these guys here work on our phone in spite of the locked bootloader!
Don't forget that the devs here are not payed for their work. They do this voluntarily. If I was a dev I really would think twice about creating a ROM for guys like you!

Whatever you say..
I didn't say I was a dev but I sure do appreciate the work done here by the devs and don't expect those without the handset to add to it.
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There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel. That's why they have that leaked 2.3 ROM and CM7 on the Defy. We could use that too. I already mentioned that a few times, but they just ignored that.
But I do really have a lot of respect for the guys that do development for our phone. Thanks a bunch, guys!

Vistaus said:
There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel. That's why they have that leaked 2.3 ROM and CM7 on the Defy. We could use that too. I already mentioned that a few times, but they just ignored that.
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Can you please be a hero and post a link? All I can find is that Defy does not have 2nd-boot. If they had 2nd-boot, they wouldn't need a leak...

Vistaus said:
There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel.
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I compiled and get 2ndboot working for our phone.
But.. after re-launch mine kernel i can't get access to baseband.. so no phone(gsm module) working...

fjfalcon said:
I compiled and get 2ndboot working for our phone.
But.. after re-launch mine kernel i can't get access to baseband.. so no phone(gsm module) working...
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Great! I think that's where the A853 has been stuck, too. Are you using XVilka's 2ndboot-ng?

youp, with yakk's patchs.
As far i can get, mbm don't pass control of baseband to new kernel.. so problem... only in that momment.

Mioze7Ae said:
Can you please be a hero and post a link? All I can find is that Defy does not have 2nd-boot. If they had 2nd-boot, they wouldn't need a leak...
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They have 2nd-boot for all ROMS except the leak as that one is official. Rest is 2nd-boot.

fjfalcon said:
youp, with yakk's patchs.
As far i can get, mbm don't pass control of baseband to new kernel.. so problem... only in that momment.
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Wow, thanks for getting so far already Hopefully you'll work the baseband-problem out

Vistaus said:
They have 2nd-boot for all ROMS except the leak as that one is official. Rest is 2nd-boot.
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Every Defy ROM I've looked at seems to be 2nd-init from what I can tell. So, specifically, since Defy's CM7 is 2nd-init, there exists at least one 2nd-init ROM for Defy and I have logically negated your statement.

Nevermind. CliqXT doesn't check boot.img for signatures.
Second hand, but it sounds like the CLIQ/DEXT people have just figured out how to 2nd-boot with working radios. This was what reddit user Druuseph had to say about the announcement that CLIQ was now an officially supported CM7:
Druuseph 9 points 1 hour ago
The real news here that no one seems to be touching is the way in which they got it running. The Milestone team pioneered using kexec and init to boot into second kernels but it essentially turned your phone into an Android powered iPod touch; No radio access at all. Apparently the devs of the CM7 Cliq port used a second init after boot that allows the radio to load. CVPS caught wind of it and is going to apply this to the Droid X. If he can get it to work the DX might finally be brought into the fold.
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So I can't quite tell if they are saying it's using a hybrid 2nd-init/2nd-boot or if it's just using 2nd-init. I'm researching this.
Edit: the boot.img the Cliq XT CM7 is being distributed with does not seem to contain Motorola signature blocks, so this looks promising...

[Q] Revolutionary vs MoDaCo

I got my MTS4G last week. I rooted my phone before I installed anything. I wanted the ability to use my full version of Titanium. In this I suceeded.
BUT
When I tried to use my copy of ROM Manager, it will not let me do anything with it because I need the Clockwork Mod. My phone is not listed.
Here, I keep seeing references to MoDaCo.
When I had my G2, I rooted with a long process through adb then updated back and forth with ROM Manager. Mostly I had the CM7 nightlies.
Now, there is nothing for my new (replacement) phone. Just saw a new one posted yesterday but it needs MoDaCo to install.
So, where do I go from here?

Instructions on how to get the recovery is in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179125

giangdude said:
Instructions on how to get the recovery is in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179125
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That's really just the Modaco recovery. There is no "official" koush ClockworkMod Recovery for the MT4GS. And there is still not yet support for the MT4GS in ROM Manager so you're not going to see your device there yet. Just keep your eyes peeled, sooner or later we'll get full official support once they realize how kick ass this device truly is!

Agreed. New devices don't always have full dev support right off the bat. It usually takes a couple of months before CWM supports a device and another month or two before it sees CM.

so there is still hope we will be supported officially? I am s-off and rooted, I have been waiting to do the same to my boyfriend's phone, because he has no experience dealing with any small problems that may come up, like the charging issue. I am hoping by getting supported with an "official" recovery he will let me root his phone, and CM7 would be awesome....still waiting on the kernel though....

yellowjacket1981 said:
so there is still hope we will be supported officially? I am s-off and rooted, I have been waiting to do the same to my boyfriend's phone, because he has no experience dealing with any small problems that may come up, like the charging issue. I am hoping by getting supported with an "official" recovery he will let me root his phone, and CM7 would be awesome....still waiting on the kernel though....
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I mean there's some hope. We had word that koush was working on an official recovery but I haven't heard anything in a long time from anyone so who knows. If he doesn't know how to handle any issues that may come up then you'd be better off not rooting his phone honestly. The kernel will come out eventually but probably another month or so. CM7 will be a while too, as there aren't many devs out there that care about our phone - which is unfortunate cause it's such a beast. But for the meantime there are some great stock(ish) ROMs in the dev section and the support for them is incredible!

unclespoon said:
But for the meantime there are some great stock(ish) ROMs in the dev section and the support for them is incredible!
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I think UndeadK9 posts here in his sleep he's here so often!
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Noooooooo.........Zzzzzzzzzzzz oh sorry fell asleep. Zzzzzzzzz sh*t I did it again.
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ATRIX 2 dev tools

Just wondering if anybody saw this. Here's a link for everybody to check out.
http://community.developer.motorola...-2-development-resources-available/td-p/19569
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tylercarter said:
Just wondering if anybody saw this. Here's a link for everybody to check out.
http://community.developer.motorola...-2-development-resources-available/td-p/19569
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Yeah, unfortunately it is not the source code yet, just the parts for the emulator and pieces needed for Devs to write apps specifically for the Atrix2.
I wish there was more there for us to use to get this thing cracked open. Hopefully we can get a ROM developer to jump in here soon and help us collect what they need to get started on ROM development. Although we will need someone like Th3ory who is not afraid of making ROMs for devices with locked bootloaders, because I have a feeling it will be after ICS before we have an unlocked bootloader.

An emulator as in a full emulation of our phone? So if one were to try to develop a ROM for this thing could that be used to test rather than risking a brick?

jimbridgman said:
Yeah, unfortunately it is not the source code yet, just the parts for the emulator and pieces needed for Devs to write apps specifically for the Atrix2.
I wish there was more there for us to use to get this thing cracked open. Hopefully we can get a ROM developer to jump in here soon and help us collect what they need to get started on ROM development. Although we will need someone like Th3ory who is not afraid of making ROMs for devices with locked bootloaders, because I have a feeling it will be after ICS before we have an unlocked bootloader.
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Jim I'm curious. What recovery are you using? Bionic bootstrapper? And is it safe yet? I've read on it a little. Is it one of those things where unless your a bit of a dev not to try it?
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@PeteSeiler2010:
Yes this could be used to test a Developed ROM, however until we get a hold of some kind of code for this thing, there can't be too much development of ROMs and such, unless someone knows something I don't. And "code" can be anything from an fxz to the released source code for the Atrix 2 build.
@tylercarter:
For a "Recovery" this is the one you want, link below. And yes it is not 100% yet, but it does what we need it to right now, the only issue is if you crash, you can't get back to it on boot, you have to use the bootstrap to boot into it, from your app drawer. This is again something that can be done after a bootloader unlock. This will allow back up and restores though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346977
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I use the emulator for a lot of the work I have been doing to see what will happen, without risking a screwup on my phone directly. Then once I have tested it out there, on the phone it goes. You can even test apps from the market as well, just to see. It is really for app developers, to do their testing of the apps they build, but we can also do something similar for our "hacking".

Thanks for info Jim, I am going to download it and check it out and see if there is anything I do with it.
Also, Jim, have you done many restores on your phone? I have been hesitant to try one...its just so risky without the sbf.

PeteSeiler2010 said:
Thanks for info Jim, I am going to download it and check it out and see if there is anything I do with it.
Also, Jim, have you done many restores on your phone? I have been hesitant to try one...its just so risky without the sbf.
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Not a FULL restore, but there are others who have tried one of the updates in the bootloader unlock forum, that have been able to restore back to before the update successfully.
I have restored files, and even directories, but not the whole thing yet.

[Q] New here.. Desprately need help..

Hi.. I'm going to be as brief as I can..
I had to get my phone replaced because it got all "defective" on me.. No joke.. it wouldn't Charge, wouldn't call, txt, turn off, tried everything.
called tmobile they said that it was a known issue and that I would have to call samsung about the warrantee. Called Samsung "Call Tmobile"
called tmobile "can't help sorry". Took the phone into the store.. "oh you have the $7.99 insurance! call them" Called Insurance.. "It's not covered call Tmobile". called tmobile "call insurance". finally got someone to actually listen to me after about 6 hours of being on my husbands phone! Got tmobile to send me a replacement. It was the very same SGS4G that I have loved for years.. Then I turned it on... New Load Screen... Gingerbread... (I was on froyo 2.2 before and NEVER had a problem with anything until the phone went completely nuts)
So now my phone....
Can't Send txts without it being MMS
Bounces from 4G to Searching whenever it wants (most of the time it's in searching or just enough signal to make calls)
takes forever to download even the smallest apps..
Basically it's become a phone that I want nothing to do with..
So I talked to my dad knowing that he did alot of rooting stuff to his Droid
He told me "Root the Phone! Put the Rom you want on it and Make it work how you want it. Look up Xda-developers" <-- for a solution it didn't seem to get better than that!
That was my Headache.... Now for my Problem..
As I was reading through tons of stuff on here I saw that there was Slim ICS.. then I saw the "Not Working" section..
then there were different programs that are needed to install different things...
not to mention that I don't want to over work my processor which is a 1Ghz processor
As for a Modem... no clue which to pick... I just need a better connection altogether..
Could You please let me know which things run the best together..
Which programs do I need to root, install etc.. these things
and I'm soo confused right now it's not even funny.. My dads droid was soo easy for him to root and change that he's confused at the process that the SGS4G needs..
Any advice or help at all would be amazing!
I will be eternally grateful for any help at all!
Please feel free to laugh at my situation.. I know I am..
This all started as a desperate cry for something better than what my phone has become.. although I think that this whole thing is going to become one big funny story lol

First of all, you need to root your phone, then we'll talk after that. Go read the how to root thread in this forum. It is an easy process. Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375517
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gizmoscoop said:
First of all, you need to root your phone, then we'll talk after that. Go read the how to root thread in this forum. It is an easy process. Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375517
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One Slight problem with rooting it lol... from all of the info I'm getting here on the site it says I need to download something to root it...
I would really love to get all of the stuff needed so that once I root I can just get the whole process done with.
My dad is also on thephone with me right now.. yes at 3:35am lol..
He's trying to help me look through Roms and help me pick the best one. However he doesn't know much about my phone because he's with verizon...
What I need to know is what stuff works best together.. You know, the least amount of bugs and problems. I want to know from someone more experienced than ether me or my dad because We have been looking at this stuff for almost 10 hours... o_0 and it's not getting any less confusing lol.
Thank you
Serenity

Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=, it has all the download links.
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Follow the guides to root your phone. Then start looking at roms.
Most likely you'll want to start out with a GB rom and move around from there, you still have to root it to install those.
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vopezy said:
Follow the guides to root your phone. Then start looking at roms.
Most likely you'll want to start out with a GB rom and move around from there, you still have to root it to install those.
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I already have GB... that's what is messing me up badly.. I don't want to have GB anymore.

gizmoscoop said:
Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=, it has all the download links.
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so the link told me..... "No thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"
as far as the first link.. there are different programs to root your phone with... which one works the best.
The first one that you sent me to which is the One-Click thingy... sounded great at first! However I also have to download some C ++ thingy and something else before I could even use the program to root the phone..
Honestly a good program would be 1 program to root, one program to install. That kinda thing..
not 1 program to root... wait before you root install these 2 programs then stand on your head and download program 3... i mean honestly that kind of multi program stuff makes me wonder where the "Take this survey to unlock your download" screen is gonna be... lol

What would be the fun if you just clicked a button and everything worked.. Clearly something happened to your phone and you paid good money for it to work the first time. Luckily all this is free.
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vopezy said:
What would be the fun if you just clicked a button and everything worked.. Clearly something happened to your phone and you paid good money for it to work the first time. Luckily all this is free.
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I hear that lol... although it took my phone 2 1/2 years to mess up lol.. but yes this is free.. and very very very confusing... but free lol

The least confusing way to do this is a heimdall one-click. Yes, you gotta have Java and the c++ runtime for windows installed but the links are provided right in the first post of the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
Starting from stock gb if you wanna go to ics download Eollie's one-click in the second post.
Now you should have the correct recovery to get to ics.
Currently the most functional ics rom I think is aokp which has auto-brightness working right out of the box.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
A few things here and there aren't quite working on any ics rom:
Wifi calling
Tv out
...can't think of more now but those are probably most notable.
All you gotta do is follow instructions on the links I just posted. That's as easy as it gets. Really.
O. I forgot, to get into download mode turn off phone, hold volume up and down, plug phone into pc.
To get into recovery turn off phone, hold volume up and down, hold the power button until the second screen comes up, keep holding volume buttons. Recovery will come up.

You should also understand that as great as ICS is, you sacrifice some battery life over GB. There are so many great ROM's for this phone, you just need to see which works best for you. Check out this link... All of the information you need regarding ROM's, kernels, modems, etc. can be found here.
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464066

Wait! This thead again?! Yay! Like we haven't answered it already about a thousand time.

Serenity8525 if you haven't bricked your device because you were linked to advanced level posts. Click on the purple link in my signature. In that thread there is a guide linked by lumin30 called fresh out of the box now what? Read that thread. Yes it is long and might take a while to get through, but once you are done and did not rush through you should be comfortable enough to use the one click linked in my signature.
For the others that have attempted to help. Remember in the future lumin30's guide should always be linked to new people. It is very detailed and noob friendly.

Dude you gotta get that stickied

TwitchyEye said:
Dude you gotta get that stickied
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Report it and ask to have it stickied. I believe lumin30 stated once he didn't like having those posts stickied because people ignore the stickies. /shrug
Plus if you want to help people its best to know what all is available and easiest for a complete noob.

eollie said:
Report it and ask to have it stickied. I believe lumin30 stated once he didn't like having those posts stickied because people ignore the stickies. /shrug
Plus if you want to help people its best to know what all is available and easiest for a complete noob.
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eollie said:
Serenity8525 if you haven't bricked your device because you were linked to advanced level posts. Click on the purple link in my signature. In that thread there is a guide linked by lumin30 called fresh out of the box now what? Read that thread. Yes it is long and might take a while to get through, but once you are done and did not rush through you should be comfortable enough to use the one click linked in my signature.
For the others that have attempted to help. Remember in the future lumin30's guide should always be linked to new people. It is very detailed and noob friendly.
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chrisbo4 said:
You should also understand that as great as ICS is, you sacrifice some battery life over GB. There are so many great ROM's for this phone, you just need to see which works best for you. Check out this link... All of the information you need regarding ROM's, kernels, modems, etc. can be found here.
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464066
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Ok so I would like to say thanks for everyones help... No the device isn't bricked because I haven't even rooted yet.. I want to get all the info all the things that I will need, understand the process then start the process of "NOT Bricking my phone" lol...
I don't think that it's possible to sacrifice some battery when my phone only stays alive for 20-30 minutes... the GB update messed the phone up soo bad it's not even funny... if I was still on Froyo I wouldn't have any desire to Root or change the OS.
As far as that link.... it's not usable... it's listed there 2 times back to back. I did however shorten it until it worked and thank you
Just I do know how to get into DL and Recovery mode I have had to do this a million times over when on the phone with Tmobile trying to trouble shoot the issues that have come up since i got the replacement phone with GB. I can not begin to count the number of factory resets this phone has on it...

Serenity8525 said:
If I was still on Froyo I wouldn't have any desire to Root or change the OS.
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Heh, I said that about going to GB, then going to ICS. Now I dread when I have to run GB to see how things worked "back then" when doing dev work.
The good news is that with the one-click-back-to-stock packages now available, along with a good backup utility like Titanium Backup Pro, it is a lot easier that it once was. I won't say it's "fool proof" as there are many people who are foolish enough not to read current threads about how to flash and upgrade an SGS4G, or foolish enough to flash a ROM, kernel, or "tweak" that isn't intended for the SGS4G or the Android version they are running.

Serenity8525 if you know how to get into DL mode download the one click in the purple link it will get you onto stock plus root with custom recovery. Then from there follow the directions in the ICS thread you want to flash. Just make sure it is from this forum and not the sister phones. As long as you follow the directions you will be hard pressed to brick the phone.
Like jeffsf stated once you get on a working form of either ics or gb you will wonder how you ever dealt with froyo. I suggest however to flash a different rom once you get the one click in my sig flashed. And just for safety's sake flash it twice and the second time click the flash bootloaders box.

eollie said:
Serenity8525 if you know how to get into DL mode download the one click in the purple link it will get you onto stock plus root with custom recovery. Then from there follow the directions in the ICS thread you want to flash. Just make sure it is from this forum and not the sister phones. As long as you follow the directions you will be hard pressed to brick the phone.
Like jeffsf stated once you get on a working form of either ics or gb you will wonder how you ever dealt with froyo. I suggest however to flash a different rom once you get the one click in my sig flashed. And just for safety's sake flash it twice and the second time click the flash bootloaders box.
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sounds like a plan... although i know it will ultimately come down to personal preferences but is there a specific setup that works best?
setup as in...
Rom
Modem
Kernel
etc...?
honestly thats what the main question was. Yea I gave background and what not. Yes I asked what program was easiest to use. People have answered those. However what people didnt answer was the setup variations that work well together.
I mean after all the rooting and rom gets installed and im still on GBis there a combo i can use to get my signal going again? Right now if I want to make a call I have to use wifi calling... since that isnt working in ICS... I dont want to get ICS and not be able to make anycalls. I have a tower about 2-3 miles away from me and never have signal. If rooting the phone doesnt fix the signal what would i need to change to get it working?
so I'm gonna start out simple..
Root with GB cause from what I can tell WIFI calling still works on a GB Rooted phone.
I'm guessing that just rooting my phone and staying with GB will mean that better Kernels and modems will not be compatible?
If that's true then my signal will still be nothing..
but with
ICS
I will need ether wifi calling to work or upgrade the Kernel or Modem... so...
I need setup ideas
GB rooted
Kernel?
Modem?
etc...
and just to play it safe if you guys could help with the ICS setup too
ICS rooted (I think the post was about AOPK?... which has the most stuff working. so that will be the one I would use)
Kernel?
Modem?
etc...
Again Thank you everyone who has been helping me

eollie said:
Serenity8525 if you know how to get into DL mode download the one click in the purple link it will get you onto stock plus root with custom recovery. Then from there follow the directions in the ICS thread you want to flash. Just make sure it is from this forum and not the sister phones. As long as you follow the directions you will be hard pressed to brick the phone.
Like jeffsf stated once you get on a working form of either ics or gb you will wonder how you ever dealt with froyo. I suggest however to flash a different rom once you get the one click in my sig flashed. And just for safety's sake flash it twice and the second time click the flash bootloaders box.
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So looking further into the Roms... went to..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
They gave me a quite a bit of info but they also had other links there like the feature list and what not... anyways I eventually ended up here...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28279-aokp-galaxys4gmtd-july-08-milestone-6/
not quite sure what to do cause one place says to install one way and the other talks about gapp... don't know what gapp is lol