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YES!!! Awesome work devs!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...orkmod-recovery-loaded-rom-floodgates-opened/
*EDIT* Sorry, I didn't realize this was already posted/linked in both of the root threads under the Development section. Mods please feel free to remove...
hellz yeah!
Hahajahhahahahahahahahaha
That's the pre production device that was shipped with s-off so no work was needed to root
So no, its not happened yet
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no its not. the pre production device says HTC at the top not verizon!
Photoshop my friend.... photoshop
Plus cwm is at 3.0.0.8 not .5 so why would the load a old recovery?
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superchilpil said:
Photoshop my friend.... photoshop
Plus cwm is at 3.0.0.8 not .5 so why would the load a old recovery?
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Read this:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bolt-instructions-by-team-andirc-v1-20110318/
It has been done.
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FYI, that's the "old" method that does NOT have S-OFF and you CANNOT load a custom recovery.
What is posted in the OP is apparently new and just done late last night. It allows S-OFF and loading of custom recoveries. That's different than what is posted in your link.
Not really sure what is happening at the moment....
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FYI, that's the "old" method that does NOT have S-OFF and you CANNOT load a custom recovery.
What is posted in the OP is apparently new and just done late last night. It allows S-OFF and loading of custom recoveries. That's different than what is posted in your link.
Not really sure what is happening at the moment....
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Yes, sorry, true true, my excited brain is over zealous this morning - stay tuned.
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Yes, sorry, true true, my excited brain is over zealous this morning - stay tuned.
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Ha ha. No worries, everyone is excited about this. Just trying to keep people from getting confused!
What we know:
1) Originally, on March 18, they had a "dirty" perm-root method that required loading an old version of the software. This gave root, but no S-OFF and no way to load a custom recovery. There are instructions posted for this method.
2) Late last night, they managed to find a "new" root method and gives S-OFF and allows loading a custom recovery. This news is posted in the link in the OP of this thread. At this time, they have not yet posted the method for doing this. I expect we'll see it later today when they wake up. LOL
So patience guys and gals, we'll have FULL root, S-OFF, and custom recovery of our TBs very soon!
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Ha ha. No worries, everyone is excited about this. Just trying to keep people from getting confused!
What we know:
1) Originally, on March 18, they had a "dirty" perm-root method that required loading an old version of the software. This gave root, but no S-OFF and no way to load a custom recovery. There are instructions posted for this method.
2) Late last night, they managed to find a "new" root method and gives S-OFF and allows loading a custom recovery. This news is posted in the link in the OP of this thread. At this time, they have not yet posted the method for doing this. I expect we'll see it later today when they wake up. LOL
So patience guys and gals, we'll have FULL root, S-OFF, and custom recovery of our TBs very soon!
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Anything that is faster than the ****ing root time on the Incredible is fine by me. That was a painful thing to wait for.
I have been following the developement on the andirc channel. these guys are amazing! As long as HTC's software policies remain what they are today, I will no longer be purchasing moto phones. I had to suffer through the DX's bootloader fiasco after coming from the OG D1. DX devs made it bearable, but custom kernals...no. Thanks for all the work jcase and company!
I'm a relative newb as far as hacking and even I got root + S-OFF + unlocked eMMC + Clockwork, etc working as per the rooting instructions updated today on AndroidPolice. It has been done and these guys and gals are that much more amazing for it.
The only question is: how the hell do you select an option in Clockwork recovery? On my Droid I could use the camera button, but here the Power, Home, and Menu button all just hide the menu. Vol keys only scroll. /confused
I haven't actually rooted mine yet as I'm a wuss and waiting for a one-click, but I read tonight that Kousch (sp?) already made an updated CWM to fix that issue on the TB. Maybe try updating via ROM Manager?
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PorscheGuy said:
I haven't actually rooted mine yet as I'm a wuss and waiting for a one-click, but I read tonight that Kousch (sp?) already made an updated CWM to fix that issue on the TB. Maybe try updating via ROM Manager?
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I'm right there with you, I rooted my D1 back before any of the oneclick solutions existed using the Motorola flashing software. I extremely tempted to try installing abd on my Linux machine and give it a shot but I'm a little scared too having never used adb before. And it seems that there's still. A few bugs to work out so I will let them get those straight. I'm hoping too one click root by Tuesday and ROM by months end. Hopefully on CM7.x
Also hi everyone! Been lurking here since I picked up the thunderbolt Thursday morning. Can't wait to crack this thing open. SenseUI is driving me nuts.
Rooted and removed bloat from my TB! I love it!
Hello Board Members. I just signed up today as I picked up my TB yesterday. I'm a former iPhone user (since 2009) and then went to Verizon for a Droid X. This new phone came out, so we dropped the X and went for the TB. Just my short intro to the Android world.
Anywho, for those that rooted the TB, was it a painless process? And the instructions posted on the AndroidPolice post (saw it in Google), do I run all of this from the TB or on the computer?
Okay I literally just got this phone yesterday and I see all this talk about Gingerbread and how great it is so I decided I want to try it. I know next to nothing about all the technicalities about this phone so I youtube'd how to do it and found this video that I plan to use to help me in the process. - watch?v=YuURgkUYn1A
So if I follow that process and use the files he uses, I should have Gingerbread and still have my connection to AT&T, GPS, and WiFi? Also, when AT&T finally does release it officially, will I be able to just go to Software Update on the menu and get the official AT&T Firmware and not have to worry about all this technical stuff again?
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Okay I literally just got this phone yesterday and I see all this talk about Gingerbread and how great it is so I decided I want to try it. I know next to nothing about all the technicalities about this phone so I youtube'd how to do it and found this video that I plan to use to help me in the process. - watch?v=YuURgkUYn1A
So if I follow that process and use the files he uses, I should have Gingerbread and still have my connection to AT&T, GPS, and WiFi? Also, when AT&T finally does release it officially, will I be able to just go to Software Update on the menu and get the official AT&T Firmware and not have to worry about all this technical stuff again?
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Try THIS link out, its got pretty much everything you want to know to get started(including vids). The only things that don't work on GB currently HDMI and on some of the roms, bluetooth. If you want to get the official OTA when it drops you will have to go back to stock, easiest way is to use THIS method. Also when GB does drop, Devs most likely will make their own roms based on the official GB.
Once your rooted and have recovery installed use THIS thread to find the ROM you want...
This is just a rough overview, so make sure you READ carefully and take your time, any question you have is usually answered in the appropriate thread.
Here is a link to the latest AT&T Gingerbread leak. Use Odin to flash it, and if you stick with the included stock kernel, everything works as it should. It looks very close to being ready for release. If you want it rooted, flash Entropy's kernel and then use CWM recovery and the Superuser zip you can find on here to install su. Then, flash the stock kernel again to keep everything working (video, bluetooth, etc.).:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366801
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Here is a link to the latest AT&T Gingerbread leak. Use Odin to flash it, and if you stick with the included stock kernel, everything works as it should. It looks very close to being ready for release. If you want it rooted, flash Entropy's kernel and then use CWM recovery and the Superuser zip you can find on here to install su. Then, flash the stock kernel again to keep everything working (video, bluetooth, etc.).:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366801
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Lol all that makes sense to me and you but, you probably just judo chopped his cerebral cortex with that post...
xIC-MACIx said:
Lol all that makes sense to me and you but, you probably just judo chopped his cerebral cortex with that post...
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Agreed, but in your earlier post, you gave some good links that show how to get started. If he reads the information in those threads, and tries out rooting stock Froyo, installing the modified recovery, and flashing some custom roms, that post shouldn't be too hard to follow.
jscott30 said:
Agreed, but in your earlier post, you gave some good links that show how to get started. If he reads the information in those threads, and tries out rooting stock Froyo, installing the modified recovery, and flashing some custom roms, that post shouldn't be too hard to follow.
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Lol yeah let's hope so, seems like lately the Q&A is getting flooded with previously answered questions
Everything is working on catyrom after I update to UCKK4 with rooted custom kernel...don't believe the hype....it can work if you know what your doing
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dman3285 said:
...don't believe the hype....it can work if you know what your doing
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Ha, you were my source for the hype. In your rooted UCKK4 thread, you said:
dman3285 said:
Here is the flashable rooted version...
If you want video working, flash the stock kernel
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So, you have a custom kernel with CWM and everything working with UCKK4 in catyrom?
I figured we would have to wait until AT&T / Samsung released their Gingerbread source to compile a completely working kernel. Can you point me in the direction of a custom kernel w/ CWM that has video and everything working in stock rooted UCKK4?
Yes..that was then this is now...lol...with some mods to some jars and framework it will work...learned that myself...
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Haven't released the KK4 version yet...soon
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dman3285 said:
Haven't released the KK4 version yet...soon
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That's legit Dman, it seems you learn a new trick on a daily basis; ports, roms and now kernels. I'm loving how the infuse development is still kickin!
So back on topic lol. Xia, Dman's CatyRom is one of the most recent GB roms (and plenty more), it's based off of the leaks from At&t. Once your ready, look into that!
Edit: Nevermind my question, dman, thanks anyway for what you're doing.
To the OP, a good AOSP Gingerbread rom that I keep coming back to is Serendipity VII. I hope that MikeyMike will still come back to update that one when we get the official AT&T Gingerbread.
You can find that here.: http://serendipityinfuse.weebly.com/
I'm sure what I've done is no new news to the other devs
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xIC-MACIx said:
Lol all that makes sense to me and you but, you probably just judo chopped his cerebral cortex with that post...
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LMAO!!!!!!
xiacexi said:
Okay I literally just got this phone yesterday and I see all this talk about Gingerbread and how great it is so I decided I want to try it. I know next to nothing about all the technicalities about this phone so I youtube'd how to do it and found this video that I plan to use to help me in the process. - watch?v=YuURgkUYn1A
So if I follow that process and use the files he uses, I should have Gingerbread and still have my connection to AT&T, GPS, and WiFi? Also, when AT&T finally does release it officially, will I be able to just go to Software Update on the menu and get the official AT&T Firmware and not have to worry about all this technical stuff again?
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you should head over to the devs section and download dmans rooted gb 2.3.6 its the shi* :O
xIC-MACIx said:
Lol all that makes sense to me and you but, you probably just judo chopped his cerebral cortex with that post...
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Couldn't help seriously laughing out loud to this comment. I consider myself to be pretty computer literate but still have to step away from the electronics everyonce in awhile for fear of judo chopping my own. My best advice to all noobs is... take your time and read. Its all right there in front of you. That is all.
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Soo excited, i was afraid to do it for past few weeks, but finally decided to do it, lol had no prior experience on rooting and this was my first phone rooting EVER, but following guides helped me and downgraded, temp root, than perm rooted with S off , and finally a custom ROM without a problem in like 1 hour XD.
See pics below of my MT4G running the MIUI ROM.
So basically i was wondering what rom i should get(already bored of the MIUI XD), just give me some suggestions, and also what else can i do with perm root S-Off except for flashing roms and installed root only apps, is there anyways i can possibly change the Bootscreen where it says MyTouch 4g to something else? thanks
first off, congrats buddy, and welcome
personally i really like miui, the themeing and customization imo is one of the most powerful and best on a rom, and it's cm7 based, gotta love dat cm7
the new ICS, now that the camera works, and actually even before the camera (but having one is better than not), is what i'm running right now and i'm loving it alot, super smooth like butter.
have fun flashing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956434
Check this thread, then search the themes and app forum for splash screen-there are several threads that have custom splash screens sized for our phone, am sure you will find one you like
aznanimedude said:
first off, congrats buddy, and welcome
personally i really like miui, the themeing and customization imo is one of the most powerful and best on a rom, and it's cm7 based, gotta love dat cm7
the new ICS, now that the camera works, and actually even before the camera (but having one is better than not), is what i'm running right now and i'm loving it alot, super smooth like butter.
have fun flashing
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Which version of ICS u using? any link if possible?
IceColdInsomnia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551456
aznanimedude said:
IceColdInsomnia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1551456
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does facial recognition work?
and do i just wipe everything and flash?
adnw hat is that ->? kernel is provided at http://tiamat-dev.com/msm7230/
shahzod said:
is there anyways i can possibly change the Bootscreen where it says MyTouch 4g to something else? thanks
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be careful with this part. If u brick your phone, and it doesnt have the original splash screen, you 99.99999% wont be able to get a warranty replacement if u turn it on and it gets stuck on the splash screen saying anything but the official logo. I love customizing, but after bricking my last phone just by taking the battery out, I've chosen not to take risks like that. thats the only thing im keeping the same.
shahzod said:
does facial recognition work?
and do i just wipe everything and flash?
adnw hat is that ->? kernel is provided at http://tiamat-dev.com/msm7230/
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Facial recognition does not work in IceColdInsomnia 6.2.1. A planned update will include that feature (read the OP, it's all in there). If you're dying to try out face recognition unlock, give Zip's Creamed Glacier a shot. However, his version is completely stock (AOSP) whereas IceColdInsomnia is AOKP, meaning it has been modified with tweaks and customizations, the most significant which is ROM Control. It basically gives you a few more options in the settings to tweak to your liking; it also includes the option to skip tracks by long-pressing the volume buttons while the screen is off. That is one feature I cannot live without...
Anyways, yes, you wipe everything and flash it. You can disregard the kernel posted at the link because one is already included in the ROM.
check out "Zips Creamed Glacier"
c707h3j said:
Facial recognition does not work in IceColdInsomnia 6.2.1. A planned update will include that feature (read the OP, it's all in there). If you're dying to try out face recognition unlock, give Zip's Creamed Glacier a shot. However, his version is completely stock (AOSP) whereas IceColdInsomnia is AOKP, meaning it has been modified with tweaks and customizations, the most significant which is ROM Control. It basically gives you a few more options in the settings to tweak to your liking; it also includes the option to skip tracks by long-pressing the volume buttons while the screen is off. That is one feature I cannot live without...
Anyways, yes, you wipe everything and flash it. You can disregard the kernel posted at the link because one is already included in the ROM.
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the most well rounded ICS Rom in my opinion is "Zips Creamed Glacier"
*usb works
*facial recognition works
*low mic issue has been resolved.
*both cameras are working
i've been using it for the past three days and i don't have anything negative to say. check it out im pretty sure u guys won't be disappointed.
Personally I believe this ROM is the best:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563576
It combines the two best ICS ROMs together, forming the most optimal one for now. Too bad the download has been taken down for the time of being.
I finally talked my wife into letting me root her mt4g. I jumped into mine too fast and had issues. Actually I had my bootloader unlocked by htc, and it took me many tries to reverse the damage of HTC method, but i finally got mine right. But today, from the time i pryed it outta her hand til i finished, took me about 10 to 15 minutes, since i have all the files in the right places. Im pretty good now, but i was just ignorant a few weeks ago! I enjoyed doing hers. But she didnt want ics yet, so i put Darkside Sense 4 on hers for now. I am waiting just a tad bit longer, the I'm gonna move on to ics...
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Congrats on the root!! Like you I also rooted my glacier, about 6 months ago though. I flashed my new boot image but I've seen some apps that might flash it for you - check out rom toolbox
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I am currently running Zips Creamed Glacier 3.11. Its awesome apart from a few small issues. But Zips has promised to resolve them and bring in some more awesome goodies. Can't wait. You should give this ROM a try.
yeh ive been tring to download it but the links say : "taken down for the time being..."
I want to try it though =/
Congrtulation Man
shahzod said:
Soo excited, i was afraid to do it for past few weeks, but finally decided to do it, lol had no prior experience on rooting and this was my first phone rooting EVER, but following guides helped me and downgraded, temp root, than perm rooted with S off , and finally a custom ROM without a problem in like 1 hour XD.
See pics below of my MT4G running the MIUI ROM.
So basically i was wondering what rom i should get(already bored of the MIUI XD), just give me some suggestions, and also what else can i do with perm root S-Off except for flashing roms and installed root only apps, is there anyways i can possibly change the Bootscreen where it says MyTouch 4g to something else? thanks
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HTC mytouch 4g my first android phone, I really want to root it.
I Unlocked the bootloader and then I can do nothing(downgrade always fail).
can you help me to root my phone?
Thank's a lot.
snayfer said:
HTC mytouch 4g my first android phone, I really want to root it.
I Unlocked the bootloader and then I can do nothing(downgrade always fail).
can you help me to root my phone?
Thank's a lot.
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Did u unlock the bootloader via HTC if u did big mistake
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snayfer said:
HTC mytouch 4g my first android phone, I really want to root it.
I Unlocked the bootloader and then I can do nothing(downgrade always fail).
can you help me to root my phone?
Thank's a lot.
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SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME FOR SOME REASON SOME HTC MYTOUCH 4gs WONT LET YOU MANUALLY DOWNGRADE don't know why. I have rooted over 3 mytouch 4gs and never had this happend.. Will I found a solution to finally root mine.
use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
**Make sure you do the Fast boot Method INSTEAD OF MANUEL DOWNGRADE if you are having the problem where you can't downgrade MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY GOOD LUCK**
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Ok, so having transferred back to Sprint after an arduous ordeal with Verizon, I now have my new LG LS840 'Viper'[A.os v2.3.3] and have rooted the system. This was definitely not my preferred choice (I wanted the HTC Evo LTE), but it seems like you all got to them first. Now having said this, I find it alarming how few (if I manage to find any @ all) posts there are about the above mentioned LG.
I have run into a few problems. As in things like; I have root and su# capability. System apps. which require root seem to work fine(i.e. mem. optimizers and CPU controls etc.). That is until I try Clockwork Recovery which sends the device into reboot. Also, trying to access the bootloader in the common android fashion (Pwr+Vol.Dn) does nothing more than send me to a 'Factory Data Reset' option.
Now please understand that I am new to LG, as all my experience is with HTC, both at Sprint prev.(HTC EVO 4G wi-max) and at Verizon (HTC Thunderbolt LTE) I think I simply got conned into this fone.
So, If any one reading this post has any experience with the LG Viper, or any other LG device, or both (preferably), Please, give me the run down on how these devices work or any input on the above listed issues.
Also, any links to information (etc.) will be highly appreciated.
Thank You, JLM
p.s.
I should also probably mention that I rooted the device using the SuperOneClick method listed @ Androidcentral.com
I have LG P509 Optimus T to access recovery home, volume up and power. I'm using AmonRa 3.0.6 but same button combination for Clockworkmod recovery.
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Have you installed a cutom recovery yet? You will need it to flash rom's and make backups.
fdaconta said:
Have you installed a cutom recovery yet? You will need it to flash rom's and make backups.
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Not yet. I thought that S1C would load it. I have currently found a user program that is supposed to work with LG viper. I have yet to try and run it. Here is the url address http://d-h.st/GFZ. with a little more time maybe I can have it worked out.
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Not yet. I thought that S1C would load it. I have currently found a user program that is supposed to work with LG viper. I have yet to try and run it. Here is the url address http://d-h.st/GFZ. with a little more time maybe I can have it worked out.
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Perhaps I should mention that the SuperOneClick version I used successfully was v.1.7 and not the v.2.3.3 that is listed in the Androidcentral Forum. With v.2.3.3 it always froze trying to load Superuser.apk
I jut got one of these todays. Cannot figure out how to get to the boot-loader yet.
JzMac said:
I should also probably mention that I rooted the device using the SuperOneClick method listed @ Androidcentral.com
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^^ boss
LG
LG is a good brand was thinknig of getting it
I've had this phone for about 6-8 weeks now and still cannot find any roms to flash.
Jelly Bean release
I get the feeling the Viper is suffering because of LG's decision to release it with GB when ICS had been available for so long. Maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel. I did find at least one rumor saying it will get a Jelly Bean Update in the Sept/Oct time frame. It might be enough to get some interest back into the device. Without some interest on the part of Devs, this isn't going to move much at all. It might already be past a critical adoption time too.
Since I'm a noob, I can't post a link, but go ahead and Google:
List of AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile Phones that will get Jelly Bean
Its actually a pretty slick little device for the price. Can't beat free
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Give it some more time. Things are in the works.
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If anyone is that desperate ... Donate to one of the hard working dev teams...i can name a few...once we get fully stable clock work mod recovery we're of to the races.
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Name em when I get paid ill donate
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I'm quite disappointed with this phone and the lack of development. It's been a great phone despite the fact that something fried inside my first one, and now my 2nd may be suffering from the same thing. I might keep this phone as a spare and upgrade to something better soon.
I'll have to agree with earlier, this little thing (my main is a SII Epic 4g Touch) is not bad. My girl had got one, said she was having problems so I switched, giving her my Photon 4g, but since I've had it, and rooted it, I haven't had a lick of problem out of it. One thing that has surprised me is also the what has seemed an extreme lack of support on it (I've had a custom rom on every one of my phones since my first cappy 3 years ago). Another is the external speaker....my goodness!! this thing is twice as loud as my SII....of course LG has been slowing falling off the bandwagon, but somehow holding on in the android race. And tho I'm a Galaxy S freak, this phone is alright. For free, a hell of a deal.
Net-Jester said:
I've had this phone for about 6-8 weeks now and still cannot find any roms to flash.
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from what ive found on the internet the only way to have custom roms on the lg viper is to flash back to GB with the lg flashtool and then flash a rom. I think the bootloader is locked and that's why you cant do anything with it. I haven't tried to unlock with any programs or anything cause I don't think im that advanced but if you want to try go ahead. this is all just info ive gathered from the internet though. I have managed to root ics zvk though. just don't freeze or uninstall google play movies and tv. it gives a security error.
if you want to root zvk follow these steps though;
1) install lg flashtool and flash phone to zvi
2) root with Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15
3) install ota root keeper(voodoo ota rootkeeper)
4)temp unroot in ota rootkeeper
5)install update to zvk
6)restore root in ota rootkeeper
7)enjoy!!!
It's late, but I'm playing with it. I'm using a thread to summarize what I find.
i am new to the one s but not to flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s sprint epic. while i was on that, cm10.1 & 10.2 were great advancements to the stock gb which always seems to take forever for updates. but with this huge leap in smartphone power, do i really need to root & flash? even with all the bloatware that i don't use, the phone is very fast. and i can get two days easily from my battery (which i charge every night so that's not an issue). i used to flash just to have the latest but i think i just want functionality. also, i don't put that much on my phone so 16g should be plenty, even with all the bloatware. not that i wouldn't flash to get better use out of my device but i just don't think i need to. please convince my otherwise.
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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The stock experience is great IMO. Only point in rooting is to remove bloatware
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I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
thedarkside44 said:
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
rugmankc said:
I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
Goatshocker said:
Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
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explain why?
why?
i guess i wasn't clear. i know the benefits of root. i've been flashing roms on my last 3 devices. the answers i was trying get were more along the lines of what are the main changes people are making to their stock phones. does all the bloatware inhibit speed or limit space? are there roms or tweeks that people can't live without? or do people unlock, root and flash just because they like to mess with their phones/have the latest even if it doesn't work correctly?
only1penny said:
should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
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No, it is in General--It's all good--
When I get my Note 2/3 I will probably only root for Nandroids and Titanium BackUp. I think that phone and maybe SGSIV may stand on their own without a need to flash roms. Might be wrong though-- There are still more sweets after Jelly Beans--
Your last question answered your own question. Today's smartphones don't really require root, UNLESS you like tweaking your phone.....which most of us love to do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You can easily get rid of bloatware with a new launcher. IE: Nova or Apex are my favorites. Just disable and hide them, you'll never see them again. Back in the day people rooted mainly to get the latest OS quicker....these days the newer smartphones already come with the latest OS, so it's all a matter of whether you like tweaking your phone or not. There are still great benefits to rooting, but these days it's more personal preference over flashing the latest OS.
Just my 2 cents.
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only1penny said:
explain why?
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I can explain it in one word: Control.
I want to be in charge of the device, not letting the device be in charge of me. If you want that you might as well go with apple, who makes good devices with a terrible OS, imo.
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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TheFreediver said:
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
only1penny said:
is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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Can't comment on stock but Blackout rom has been good for me.
I root because you can never seem to turn the screen brightness down far enough without root access, that and I don't like being locked out of a file system by manufacturers who don't trust my common sense.
I flash only when a device is older and/or no longer getting updated and something like CM gives me a major improvement.
Even if you want to run a stock ROM, unlocking/rooting (and flashing a custom recovery) enables you to make and restore nandroid backups and use tools like Titanium. It's also makes it easier to repair if you ever run into trouble like boot loops.