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I think it would be very hard to develop for a phone without having that specific model especially if your talking about ROM development.
The peolple that have develope floyo hands out to them im talking about out side developers none want to touch this phone same on them.
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why don't you start developing yourself?
From what I can understand, you are expecting people who do not own this phone to spend hours/days/weeks of their time developing on this phone for free. If that's correct then you are making an absurd complaint.
It's absolutely amazing that we have people like Khal, Mioe7ae and others working on the XT720 like they do for no charge. It is semi-understandable in their case though since they have the XT720 and therefore do gain somewhat from their hard work (even so, it's still amazing what they do for us for free). To expect developers to give up their time to work on a phone they don't own for free (not to mention the fact that it's more difficult to develop on a phone you don't have like 3rdstring said) is just plain absurd. To say "shame on them" for not working on it -like you are entitled to have a team of slaves working 24/7 to make your phone better - is just downright disrespectful.
Forgive me if I've misunderstood what you're saying.
I fully agree to syrenz. It´s amazing what the guys here do for us!
I´m really impressed how people from all over the world can work together to create better software for our phone!
Thank you for this!
agreed 100%
I not talking about are people have done great i would to see some take some interst in the xt720 we have possiable was of making this phone true open source.
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Bootloader locked...full stop..
I think we should be thankful that these guys here work on our phone in spite of the locked bootloader!
Don't forget that the devs here are not payed for their work. They do this voluntarily. If I was a dev I really would think twice about creating a ROM for guys like you!
Whatever you say..
I didn't say I was a dev but I sure do appreciate the work done here by the devs and don't expect those without the handset to add to it.
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There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel. That's why they have that leaked 2.3 ROM and CM7 on the Defy. We could use that too. I already mentioned that a few times, but they just ignored that.
But I do really have a lot of respect for the guys that do development for our phone. Thanks a bunch, guys!
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There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel. That's why they have that leaked 2.3 ROM and CM7 on the Defy. We could use that too. I already mentioned that a few times, but they just ignored that.
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Can you please be a hero and post a link? All I can find is that Defy does not have 2nd-boot. If they had 2nd-boot, they wouldn't need a leak...
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There is indeed 2nd boot which the Defy uses to boot from another kernel.
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I compiled and get 2ndboot working for our phone.
But.. after re-launch mine kernel i can't get access to baseband.. so no phone(gsm module) working...
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I compiled and get 2ndboot working for our phone.
But.. after re-launch mine kernel i can't get access to baseband.. so no phone(gsm module) working...
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Great! I think that's where the A853 has been stuck, too. Are you using XVilka's 2ndboot-ng?
youp, with yakk's patchs.
As far i can get, mbm don't pass control of baseband to new kernel.. so problem... only in that momment.
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Can you please be a hero and post a link? All I can find is that Defy does not have 2nd-boot. If they had 2nd-boot, they wouldn't need a leak...
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They have 2nd-boot for all ROMS except the leak as that one is official. Rest is 2nd-boot.
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youp, with yakk's patchs.
As far i can get, mbm don't pass control of baseband to new kernel.. so problem... only in that momment.
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Wow, thanks for getting so far already Hopefully you'll work the baseband-problem out
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They have 2nd-boot for all ROMS except the leak as that one is official. Rest is 2nd-boot.
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Every Defy ROM I've looked at seems to be 2nd-init from what I can tell. So, specifically, since Defy's CM7 is 2nd-init, there exists at least one 2nd-init ROM for Defy and I have logically negated your statement.
Nevermind. CliqXT doesn't check boot.img for signatures.
Second hand, but it sounds like the CLIQ/DEXT people have just figured out how to 2nd-boot with working radios. This was what reddit user Druuseph had to say about the announcement that CLIQ was now an officially supported CM7:
Druuseph 9 points 1 hour ago
The real news here that no one seems to be touching is the way in which they got it running. The Milestone team pioneered using kexec and init to boot into second kernels but it essentially turned your phone into an Android powered iPod touch; No radio access at all. Apparently the devs of the CM7 Cliq port used a second init after boot that allows the radio to load. CVPS caught wind of it and is going to apply this to the Droid X. If he can get it to work the DX might finally be brought into the fold.
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So I can't quite tell if they are saying it's using a hybrid 2nd-init/2nd-boot or if it's just using 2nd-init. I'm researching this.
Edit: the boot.img the Cliq XT CM7 is being distributed with does not seem to contain Motorola signature blocks, so this looks promising...
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Sorry for distrub. I was newbie on use motorola xt720. Just last week buy motorola xt720 from another guy. I want to flash CM6 in my phone. But try many time also failure. I find solution on internet. Also can't settle. I have flash uk sbf to my phone already and open root access already. I try use openrecovery to put cm6 inside. But is failure. Can i know how to step by step to do?
this is my phone info
milestone xt720
firmware
2.1-update1
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2.6.29-omap1
thank u everyone
Sorry can't be done yet
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not yet possible. the locked bootloader ****s up!
but cm7 was ported to xt701 that is similar to our xt720 and so it could be ported to our xt720 again maybe.
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not yet possible. the locked bootloader ****s up!
but cm7 was ported to xt701 that is similar to our xt720 and so it could be ported to our xt720 again maybe.
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Except that you don't have a working camera then, which is why many of us bought this phone.
Anyways, I don't understand why it's taking so long for 2nd init to get working. Many Motorola-devices already have 2nd init to boot custom ROMS.
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not yet possible. the locked bootloader ****s up!
but cm7 was ported to xt701 that is similar to our xt720 and so it could be ported to our xt720 again maybe.
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I also like the CM7. Because my bro use milestone with cm7 already.
but he say will very lag with here milestone
my 1 is singapore version xt720
don't know is enough to use cm7 or not?
i want put all app run from sdcard
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Except that you don't have a working camera then, which is why many of us bought this phone.
Anyways, I don't understand why it's taking so long for 2nd init to get working. Many Motorola-devices already have 2nd init to boot custom ROMS.
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We already use 2nd-init on all of the Froyo ROMs. Maybe you mean 2nd-boot?
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Yeah, maybe that's what I meant. They use that already on for example the Defy to boot custom kernels including Cynanogenmod.
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Except that you don't have a working camera then, which is why many of us bought this phone.
Anyways, I don't understand why it's taking so long for 2nd init to get working. Many Motorola-devices already have 2nd init to boot custom ROMS.
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is the camera not working on xt701 or won't it work if we flash it to our x720?
It's not working on XT701. Flashing it on the XT720 results in a bootloop.
that means no change to put CM6 to my xt720?
Nope. But the CM7-port is going very well. See the topic in this subforum. So we should have CM7 on our XT720 very soon.
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Nope. But the CM7-port is going very well. See the topic in this subforum. So we should have CM7 on our XT720 very soon.
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Does it will improve camera framerate ?
cm7 on xt720 with everything working (including cam and so on)??
@Zachary and Knoedelkopf: How will I know? It's in dev. It's almost bootable now and when it boots, we'll see what works and what not and what we can fix.
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Nope. But the CM7-port is going very well. See the topic in this subforum. So we should have CM7 on our XT720 very soon.
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cant find it... but i remembered reading one of the more "pro" members saying something about working on the cm7 port. still on?
edit: saw the post, thanks. OMG I CANT WAIT FOR CM7! i prefer the more stock looking roms. was excited about miui but after i installed it i found that it wasn't to my liking.
It's HERE!!!!
http://cincinnatibell.com/milestoneupgrade/#howtoupgrade
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It's coming in July.
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LOL you beat me to it i saw it too swwweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!
They should have released 2.3 by now......but anyways.....I'm happy!
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It's coming in July.
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thanks for sharing this information man ..it's a good news for us..can't wait to try it already...hope CB will give us the Froyo with new kernel or unlocked booloader
wow!... they are only late for like more than a year since 2.2 was released. LOL
considering we have been enjoying our own Dexter 2.2 for the past 6 months
well i guess it's better late than never
Would the bootloader be unlocked??.....can someone ask CB??
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Would the bootloader be unlocked??.....can someone ask CB??
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We almost have 2nd init working, so the bootloader unlock isn't needed.
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We almost have 2nd init working, so the bootloader unlock isn't needed.
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??? I must have missed that one. What does that mean exactly?
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We almost have 2nd init working, so the bootloader unlock isn't needed.
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Ok, terminology nazi here:
2nd-init is what we already use.
2nd-boot only works without the radio (no phone).
I don't think there has been any success yet getting the radio working even on A853 where 2nd-boot was pioneered. Baring a miracle, bootloader unlock is most definitely desired.
Yes, I meant 2nd-boot. Thanks for correcting me
I get confused every time b/w 2nd-init and 2nd-boot. When if finally works, I probably won't be confused anymore
I don't see what's the big deal.Official Froyo.... whatever. I have fully working ROM with excellent preformance and fjkernal.
Go eat my shorts Motorola. And ty to Dexter, Khal, Mioze, Fj, reverendkjr and everybody else who are responsible for this.
Hi this is Cincinnati bell this on their own and you care remember we still have same 2.1 kernel possible unlocked bootloader would be really but for Motorola they really suck.
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Hats off to CincyBell
CincyBell making me proud! Hats off to them.... You don't see Verizon/T-Mo/Att doing this! they are doing this without Motorola's support. Wonder if moto will reverse course & offer their own upgrade once they are embarrassed by Cincybell.
Hope they include an updated Kernal, that will only make the Dexter/Khal roms even better!
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Wonder if moto will reverse course & offer their own upgrade once they are embarrassed by Cincybell.
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This guy is the only Motorola developer who is working on XT720's Froyo so far, but it looks promising... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBuxlXyVIHc .
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This guy is the only Motorola developer who is working on XT720's Froyo so far, but it looks promising... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBuxlXyVIHc .
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Well, I don't think so... he seems slightly too advanced. Looks more like management material to me.
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This guy is the only Motorola developer who is working on XT720's Froyo so far, but it looks promising... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBuxlXyVIHc .
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ooooooohhhh......
This guy rocks. I can't believe he was able to get Honeycomb on the XT720!!!
OMGLOLWTFJKJK!!!!!!11111one
i don't get it, thw link is about a vdo clip says nothing but a dog gets wet, why is a dog have to do with xt720??
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i don't get it, thw link is about a vdo clip says nothing but a dog gets wet, why is a dog have to do with xt720??
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It's coming in July.
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Good news.
I hope there will be some new advantages. Meaning that there are more possibilities excluding froyo itself.
Otherwise I would prefer v4 rom
Hope this update will have new 2.6.32 kernel
User Kholk says he has a working bootloader bypass for the GSM razr, which basically allows him to run a unsigned kernel on the razr, which has a locked bootloader, it works, but still loading the motorola bootloader and kernel, but after booting the stock bl and kernel, it bypasses them and boots again in a unsigned custom kernel. here is the razr thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519448 and here is a thread about talks of porting it to the droid 3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594406&page=3 . if they port it to the droid 3 id say there is a good chance it could be ported to the atrix 2 and other similar moto devices.
This basically wont be much different that having a fully unlocked bootloader XD and will lead to easier AOSP based rom development, and of course allow for custom kernels to be loaded !!!
We already have e memebr here that is working on the port and as soon as he gets permission will get it to us
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We already have e memebr here that is working on the port and as soon as he gets permission will get it to us
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Sweetness, finally stupid moto locked bootloaders D: . maybe we will see fully working CM9 soon or atleast cm7 .
Oh and btw is there anyone with a working safestrap setup on the atrix 2 who would be willing to test my cm9 build? I dont have access to a atrix 2 atm to test my self.
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We already have e memebr here that is working on the port and as soon as he gets permission will get it to us
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Not asking for a time of release, but just curious when did they begin working on the port?
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We already have e memebr here that is working on the port and as soon as he gets permission will get it to us
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I'm not being rude I swear I'm just wondering why only one person can can work this port at a time, isn't it kinda the more minds the faster it goes? I'm sure there is some red tape or a good decent reason I'm just curious...
I wasn't saying you couldnt work on it, I was just stating that we have a memeber here who has been working on it and probably has it ready to release, he is just waiting for Kholk to release it and word that he can relaease it.
Just trying to save some of you some time, thats all
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I wasn't saying you couldnt work on it, I was just stating that we have a memeber here who has been working on it and probably has it ready to release, he is just waiting for Kholk to release it and word that he can relaease it.
Just trying to save some of you some time, thats all
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Kholk released it today, for razr, but cpu1 (2nd core) still isnt working, but its something XD
AT&T put extra security measures in the a2.those are making the kexec bypass much harder to implement on our phone.the member working on it is working closely with kholk,embeem and others to get this done.
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I wasn't saying you couldnt work on it, I was just stating that we have a memeber here who has been working on it and probably has it ready to release, he is just waiting for Kholk to release it and word that he can relaease it.
Just trying to save some of you some time, thats all
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Oh OK I see I was just making sure it wasn't rude to try on my own... thank u
does it mean:
compile a kexec module and install it after booted, and change kernel while system running. is this right?
thank you,
How long???
I have 15 days left before I can return my Atrix 2. I truly despise this POS device because of the lack of an open bootloader. That is my fault for not checking on here before I bought it. My questions is, should I just return it or is an unlocked bootloader on the horizon, (3 weeks or so. Heh heh). Thanks.
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I have 15 days left before I can return my Atrix 2. I truly despise this POS device because of the lack of an open bootloader. That is my fault for not checking on here before I bought it. My questions is, should I just return it or is an unlocked bootloader on the horizon, (3 weeks or so. Heh heh). Thanks.
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As far as the bootloader goes we'll call it even odds on being unlocked eventually. However I have spoken with the developer working on kexec for the A2 and it is nearly ready. He's just got a couple of issues to work out before releasing it to everyone. Don't give up a2 owners,hope is on the horizon!
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As far as the bootloader goes we'll call it even odds on being unlocked eventually. However I have spoken with the developer working on kexec for the A2 and it is nearly ready. He's just got a couple of issues to work out before releasing it to everyone. Don't give up a2 owners,hope is on the horizon!
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Yeah don't give up hope!! We will have a bootloader bypass, and ICS/CM9 soon enough!
Ok, ok, you guys convinced me. I want so badly to have my A2 working like my A1 was. So bummed I dropped it. Don't drink and text, kids!
Am I beating a dead horse..... This seems to be the answer same bootloader as raz should be able to get something going.....
Hope something amazing comes out of this!
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Hey bpear what do you mean safestrap system? And great job on rebal rom.I flashed it on my Atrix 2 and my gf,brother, and friends exhibit 2
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Hey bpear what do you mean safestrap system? And great job on rebal rom.I flashed it on my Atrix 2 and my gf,brother, and friends exhibit 2
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Im pretty sure bpear's mom indefinitely restricted him from her A2 lol
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If you take a look in the bootloader unlock thread, I posted a link to grab the one Kholk released. I worked on this for months, and tested it and compiled and worked with these guys and on my own.... But Kholk has released it, and it has been tested and it is working, but we now need a kernel. I am working on releasing my CM7 kernel and build here very soon.
Hi, I have noticed a ton of people curious about why AT&T people do not have ICS yet, so I thought I would answer that once and for all. I admit that I and others have gotten a little mad whenever people ask about this, but it seems they are not able to really find a clear answer, so here it is.
If you feel like this is well done, please sticky it at least until we get it all figured out.
I figure this would be best said i a Q and A type form.
Q: What is ICS, and why does everyone want it so bad?
ICS or "Ice Cream Sandwich" is android version 4.0.x. the next version, 4.1 Jellybean was just released as a slightly less important update, but ICS brought huge changes from Ginger Bread (2.3.x) the previous phone version (3.x HoneyComb was tablet only). ICS brings a slicker, darker, and better looking user interface, as well as many performance enhancements. Most of us want it more because it seems like we should than because it is actually that much better. That said it is still a great update, and most people will be happy to see it.
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Q: Why is it so hard to get ICS for our phone, while others have it even though it is not officially out?
The main reason is our locked bootloader. That means it is not possible to flash or boot a custom kernel unless it is signed with Motorola's key. That is obviously impossible.
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Q: What is a kernel?
the kernel is a major part of any operating system. you can think of it as a sort of layer between hardware and software. It is the part of an OS that communicates directly with a device's hardware. Android is based off the open source Linux kernel, meaning it is free for anybody to build and modify. However, Motorola has only released the source for the ME865, and partially for the MB865, meaning we can't really build a kernel anyways. Then of course, even if we could build one, we wouldn't be able to boot it with our locked bootloader.
ICS is not really complete without the newer kernel that goes with it
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What is Kexec, and is there any way to unlock the bootloader
The fact that I grouped these together would probably lead you to correctly believe they are related. Lets start with the second half. Simply put, NO. I hate to say it, but there is very little hope of EVER unlocking our bootloader, unless Motorola decides to do something like HTC did and allow unlocking.
Kexec is a method of hot switching kernels while still booted. It is actually just a linux tool that you can use on a computer, but it has been built for android essentially allowing you to bypass the bootloader. Theoretically it would be an easy way to run custom kernels. Then why don't we? Well a few reasons. One, we can't really get one built to begin with, especially because, at least to my knowledge, jimbridgman is the only one who actually knows what he is doing with kernel building, and he is only half here now that he got his fany new SGS3. Two, it does not work great. I am not sure the latest version is working at all on our phone, and even if it did, only one processor comes up, meaning it is really slow.
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Q: What's the deal with these Droid 3 builds that supposedly boot?
Some people managed to build ICS for the droid 3 based of a 2.3.6 kernel. that means you can boot it on a stock GB kernel, and therefore you do not need to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately that means it is not totally ICS, but it is still pretty good. Of course they are for a cdma phone, so that means no data, no calls, and no gps, making it kind of useless.
I am not going to give a link to them, but if you are really interested go search around. any of the Droid 3 AOKP and CM9 builds will boot just fine. Find more info in the dev section, but please don't start a thread asking about it.
We have been trying to port these to work for us, but that is proving more difficult than expected, and with ICS just around the corner, I don't want to put time into it. I do think it is possible, and if you are a dev looking to give it a shot, PM me and I will tell you all I know, and try to help out as much as I can.
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Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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jimbridgman said:
Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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thanks. I felt it was needed. let me know if I forgot to say something important.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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Nice work kras, as always.
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Hell i thought this thread was going to give me info on why att hadn't released ics for us yet. Just kidding, good job. If this thread falls down the list ill bump it so maybe it will help some of the new people and we won't get any more new threads about ics.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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that's why I asked for sticky
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The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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Fall of Enosis said:
The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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so is September
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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yep. same thing. we have a hard time compiling any also source as you need a custom kernel
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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You are not right. I can prove it. The latest droid 3 AOKP and Cm9 builds will boot just fine, with no radio
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM9
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Couldn't be more wrong....they both boot just fine and are pretty functional, the problem lies in getting the radio to work.
Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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jimbridgman said:
Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Agreed, They actually run extremely well, but obviously I can't stick with them with no radio.
P.S. this is my new best thought for porting, might take some extra build.prop work too. It did not boot for me, but I think we should be able to get it to. Then it is just a question of whether or not the radio will work. there is way more in build.prop on that than I would think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
hankbizzo5 said:
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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WOW, did I really forget to add that? that was kind of one of the main points of this post I'll fix it tomorrow (actually today, I guess it is after midnight), but I need some sleep.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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I have tried this method along with every idea that popped in my head of things to alter after following this guide. I have a highly modified build prop that AOKP boots with that I replaced with a lot of our build prop but there are still some things missing as no luck yet
Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2
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Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2
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seriously?? can a mod just lock this before it explodes
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I dont know anything...but its a harsh truth that moto wont unlock bootloader..
Locked boot loader means NO CM7/9.
PERIOD.
Whatever the defy boys have is probably some half-arsed hacked port.
Please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, search before you ask next time.
Here, I'll do it for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=will+cyanogenmod+work+on+a+locked+bootloader?+
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seriously?? can a mod just lock this before it explodes
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Agreed. I hope we don't start seeing a bunch of these, "Well this phone or that phone can have (whatever) so what's up with the ATRIX 2?"
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Hmmm
hemanbond said:
Every other good phone has it...even the ones with locked BL like defy......
Come on guys..we have one of the best phones .....atrix 2 aint bull****...if not everything then maybe CM would atleast make most of us happy......be a team ..if not many then atleast one awsomely working CM ....i dont want samsung or htc....look at them ..brick bug or touch issues or battery backup........we have no issues except BL ......
And can someone tell me when kexec comes out.. usable for us.....
Im happy though with my A2
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i know u r right...since i had defy with cm7 though its bootloader is unlocked ....but u cannot complain about it .....u bought the phone ...nobody forced u ......be happy with what u got nd devs can offer ...if u cant help....dnt expect to get help /......fair enough ,....not to be harsh ,its just as simple as that
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i know u r right...since i had defy with cm7 though its bootloader is unlocked ....but u cannot complain about it .....u bought the phone ...nobody forced u ......be happy with what u got nd devs can offer ...if u cant help....dnt expect to get help /......fair enough ,....not to be harsh ,its just as simple as that
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Or the OP could learn how to dev and try and compile CM9 for himself and see where he gets. Most of our devs did not start out as devs.
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Or the OP could learn how to dev and try and compile CM9 for himself and see where he gets. Most of our devs did not start out as devs.
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+1 to that A BIG ONE
This is getting to be a every day thing here and i personally am running out of patience because of people not taking five minutes to read up on their already answered questions. I propose that we start ignoring these type of posts from now on. That to me is the best solution.
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This is getting to be a every day thing here and i personally am running out of patience because of people not taking five minutes to read up on their already answered questions. I propose that we start ignoring these type of posts from now on. That to me is the best solution.
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Agreed.
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@OP yea good attitude now go do RnD for yourself, you cant search sh!t in first place and you dare to order other respected people ? Just cut your [email protected] and stop posting useless threads.
+1 tmease. I concur.
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BOOMSHAKALAKAAAAA!
(That's this thread exploding :-D )
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Not a bad idea. I came from defy.
They basically run cm7/9 with an existing signed moto kernel.
Myself, am interested in porting the 2nd init from defy. Really hope I can do it.
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Not a bad idea. I came from defy.
They basically run cm7/9 with an existing signed moto kernel.
Myself, am interested in porting the 2nd init from defy. Really hope I can do it.
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Do a search... we already have done something similar, it is slow, and not worth it, since we don't have space on the internal storage to put the 2nd ROM, so it MUST go on the SDcard.
It was abandoned due to the fact that it was so slow it was unusable. Besides there are many of us that have been working to get CM7 and CM9 working from a port without success.... but you are more than welcome to jump in and lend a hand, we have a post in the dev section about it for aokp and CM9.
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Do a search... we already have done something similar, it is slow, and not worth it, since we don't have space on the internal storage to put the 2nd ROM, so it MUST go on the SDcard.
It was abandoned due to the fact that it was so slow it was unusable. Besides there are many of us that have been working to get CM7 and CM9 working from a port without success.... but you are more than welcome to jump in and lend a hand, we have a post in the dev section about it for aokp and CM9.
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Do you mean as in a multi boot?
The Defy I had, I flashed a defy+ sbf too then plonked cm9 on, no 2nd rom/boot or such.
My understanding was that the purpose of 2nd init was to hijack the init process and allow to boot into boot manager.
I'm also guessing bootmanager would need to be built from source to suit the A2?
I've read a few of your posts mate, worked with Linus? Legend.
You will by far know more than I do these days, but I'll see what I can do to help.
First I'll deodex the ics leak I'm running and make a Cwm backup to upload. Not sure how useful it will be due to the kernel.
The U.S, Europe and Asia hardware is all different?
The one last thing I remember from defy was I had to use at&t baseband since telecom nz uses the same carrier frequency.
And ran the defy+ rom on old red lense ddfy without a single issue at defy+ stock clock freq
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lukensteinz said:
Do you mean as in a multi boot?
The Defy I had, I flashed a defy+ sbf too then plonked cm9 on, no 2nd rom/boot or such.
My understanding was that the purpose of 2nd init was to hijack the init process and allow to boot into boot manager.
I'm also guessing bootmanager would need to be built from source to suit the A2?
I've read a few of your posts mate, worked with Linus? Legend.
You will by far know more than I do these days, but I'll see what I can do to help.
First I'll deodex the ics leak I'm running and make a Cwm backup to upload. Not sure how useful it will be due to the kernel.
The U.S, Europe and Asia hardware is all different?
The one last thing I remember from defy was I had to use at&t baseband since telecom nz uses the same carrier frequency.
And ran the defy+ rom on old red lense ddfy without a single issue at defy+ stock clock freq
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Yeah we used a util called safestrap that another dev and I patched to make it work on this phone that was originally from hashcode.
It allowed us to boot another ROM on say our SDcard, but again it still has to use our kernel due to the bootloader issue...
The only way around the bootloader as of now is by using kexec, and that only works with 1 CPU and can only load a "stock based" unsigned kernel, so the CM stuff is out.
We are working to get CM9 and or AOKP booting from a port on our phone using the stock GB kernel. There is a post on it in the dev section.
Yeah Linus is a Friend, a great guy and I can't say enough good things about him. I have not seen him since the last Linux world / Opensource world now as it is called.
Yeah you should jump in and join the frey, we can always use more help in here.
Well it wasn't hard to work out how to get a 2nd init style boot. (As in, blue light, press vol down, gets bootmenu)
Except bootmenu is garbled screen. I need to test more, and probably mod some of the scripts.
Heres a system nandroid of ICS http://www.4shared.com/archive/bp3qzA9o/Atrix2-ICS-NANDROID__672112asi.html
Dunno how much use it will be since I didn't get the kernel.
Got it.... thanks