Hi, after reading the post that says the majority of batteries in ebay are crap (less than 80% of the mah indicated) i've been thinking of do it by myself and put together 2 stock batteries (or 2 armani batteries) which will give to me 3000 real mah or 3300 real mah, anyone has done it? (is it possible?)
Will I find a back case with the double battery thickness?
sorry for my english.
Thanks in advance.
how about trying the 2700 battery?
I have the momax battery and it is excellent. But I have always wondered if you join 2 or even 3 stock batteries together would it be safe and usable, I don't know enough about batteries to risk doing this, but if anyone has any knowledge please share.
I've ordered a 3000mah battery from a website that sells upgrade batteries for a variety of devices, it comes with an extended cover. free shipping all over the world, dunno if I am allowed to post it here but pm me if you want the address
Yes please do post the address
Batteryupgrade.com
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Its there any battery higher than 1500mah but thats looks exacly the same when it comes to thickness?? Its just that I dont like that fat battery with the horrible backcase =\
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Thanks, but ordered from ebay instead, much cheaper for the same thing.
cubanito0389 said:
Its there any battery higher than 1500mah but thats looks exacly the same when it comes to thickness?? Its just that I dont like that fat battery with the horrible backcase =\
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NOPE Try momax nice design
Get the 2700mAh battery from momax. It's a good battery and comes with a nice back cover and slip case.
I would caution against meddling with batteries unless you really know what you are doing. An exploding battery is not fun.
I bought a 3500mAh battery from ebay, and so far so good. I'm not sure if its really 3500, but it seems to last pretty long. At the end of a day, I usually used to have about 30% left on my original battery, but on this baby, I still have at least 50-60% left. That's pretty good.
Assuming the battery readings are correct, that would put the ebay battery at twice the capacity ( 3000 mAh ), not 3500mAh. But for so little money, who cares ?
I use the 5A PortaPow USB rechargeable battery. Plug it in and it recharges the phone, or plug it in and use it while using the phone.
Saves any case mods. Still got a sleek galaxy S , and a little baggie with a 5A battery in when needed. It's about the same size as an iPod classic, and means I can GPS for hours and hours when out and about. 2 and a bit hours and it's flat on a 1.5A stock battery.
So with a PortaPow and a stock battery I've got 6.5A to resource.
ok, now i have a stock 1500mah, armani 1650mah, and the momax 2700mah (all the things are very cheap so.. jeje).
the momax 2700 is fine, i'm not really sure that this is real 2700mah but the case is nice.
I was interested in this cause if i can put together 2 1650 they will bring me real 3300mah that maybe is the best battery life you can get for this phone.
the 3500mah in reality it is two 1200mah batteries together, (you can find more info in this forum).
So, if they can put together 1200mah why not the 1650mah?.
I have tried the space in the momax case, and the 1500+1650 batterys doesnt fit, only for 1 millimeter (or less) but doesnt fit.
padlad said:
But I have always wondered if you join 2 or even 3 stock batteries together would it be safe and usable, I don't know enough about batteries to risk doing this, but if anyone has any knowledge please share.
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For normal batteries yes it would work, just. You don't get double the life though because the batteries would discharge each other while sitting idle.
However it doesn't work with Lithium batteries such as the ones in phones. These are not simple batteries, but rather lithium cells, a small amount of circuitry and an extra third terminal to talk to the phone's battery management chip. Over discharging, or over charging lithium batteries can cause explosions and the electronics protect against that. Because of these you can't simply hook them up in parallel, you need a battery with physically more cells (higher mAh number.)
Thanks garbz, well explained
so.. i will keep in my phone the momax and forget this thread xD
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Its there any battery higher than 1500mah but thats looks exacly the same when it comes to thickness?? Its just that I dont like that fat battery with the horrible backcase =\
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Yes, there is a 1650mAh battery made for Giorgio Armani Galaxy S (which is known to be compatible with standard Galaxy S). Thats as high as you can go without adding extra bulk. You might find batteries rated even higher on eBay, but those are fake values.
Or you know... you could just use the two batteries sequentially, not blow up your phone, and not have a cinder block back case.
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Yes, there is a 1650mAh battery made for Giorgio Armani Galaxy S (which is known to be compatible with standard Galaxy S). Thats as high as you can go without adding extra bulk. You might find batteries rated even higher on eBay, but those are fake values.
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This is an original Samsung battery. The Armani Galaxy S 1650mAh battery is also used for Samsung Galaxy S variant I9003. So it should be available now. I used it now for a while with my I9000.
Hi will the i9003 battery work in i9000?
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Yes, but not by much... momax just released one with 1700mAh, which goes along fine with the stock back cover.
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Its there any battery higher than 1500mah but thats looks exacly the same when it comes to thickness?? Its just that I dont like that fat battery with the horrible backcase =\
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Just received the battery from mobilecityonline.com. Ordered Tuesday came on Saturday $60 shipped. Here are some pic's will do a review when I can test it. Any question's please ask.
Initial impression:
The battery itself is bigger than the China 3500mah, The back cover doesn't fit over the sedeio battery. The plastic is thinner than the china back cover but thicker than the oem samsung back cover, not able to stand it up on it's side. The case it difficult to put on, but fits very well. It's gonna suck when my phone locks up and i have to pull the battery.
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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy33ssepc-bk.htm
Has anyone tried this? I am bout to order one.
Can be bout cheaper for about $55
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
Just order one came out to about $60 the don't charge tax at least in California. Still have my cheapo ebay 3500mah battery but it still doesn't last me the day. Will post review when i Get it.
Hrm....so then what about those of us that bought the 3000 mAh Innocell? I'm wondering if this battery is actually 300 mAh bigger or if they just changed the rating on the battery. I'd like to get my extra 300 mAh, especially as much as the 3000 mAh cost.
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Hrm....so then what about those of us that bought the 3000 mAh Innocell? I'm wondering if this battery is actually 300 mAh bigger or if they just changed the rating on the battery. I'd like to get my extra 300 mAh, especially as much as the 3000 mAh cost.
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According to androidcentral.com it is a different battery.
http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-accessories/244950-review-seidio-3000mah-extended-life-battery.html
Customer79: Hi Kevin,
Customer79: I have a Samsung Epic 4G phone.
Kevin: hi
Customer79: I see that you have a 3000 mAh and a 3300 mAh battery for this phone. Is this indeed the case or is it a mis-type of some kind?
Kevin: we have updated the 3000 to 3300
Customer79: If I bought the 3000 last week, is it a 3000 or is it in reality a 3300?
Kevin: 3000mAh is 3000mAh
Kevin: the new version is 3300mAh
Customer79: I think I read something somewhere that suggested that the 3000 was originally intended to be a 3300, but was de-rated to correspond better with real-life use. Is this the case? Could I get performance approaching 3300 with my recently purchased 3000 battery?
Kevin: no that is not possible
Customer79: OK. I sure wish I knew the 3300 was coming up before I ordered the extended 3000 batteries for my 2 household phones.
So...I guess the 3300 is a 3300. I think we all have to accept that technology is constantly changing with these phones. You got to hop in when you can and expect things to constantly upgrade and change. Clearly, my battery situation is much better with this 3000 mAh battery. My daily life no longer revolves around find a place to plug in my phone. Is 300 mAh really going to change your day? Not really.
Yea it's not a huge deal to me, at least not enough to go through the process of exchanging my battery. Just wish they would have made some mention of the 3300 coming so I could have just waited. Of course they wouldn't do that, because then no one would buy their 3000's and they'd have a bunch of leftover stock.
Would love to see a test between the 3300 mah and the cheapo 3500 mah batteries. Any chance that you would feel like running a test like that???
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Would love to see a test between the 3300 mah and the cheapo 3500 mah batteries. Any chance that you would feel like running a test like that???
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I planning too when i get the sedio battery.
While I haven't ran a methodical test but I know my Innocell 3000 mAh definitely lasts longer (or so it seems, placebo effect?) than my generic 3000 mAh. Of course, if the Seidio is actually 3000 mAh, then that should be right since the generic 3000 mAh is just two 1200 mAh batteries wired together.
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While I haven't ran a methodical test but I know my Innocell 3000 mAh definitely lasts longer (or so it seems, placebo effect?) than my generic 3000 mAh. Of course, if the Seidio is actually 3000 mAh, then that should be right since the generic 3000 mAh is just two 1200 mAh batteries wired together.
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http://batteryboss.org/
Seidio extended batteries are usually around 82% of rated capacity.
That would put the Seidio 3000mah at around 2460 mah.
That is why I would love to see a test between the two that reduces all variables to make it as fair as possible. Something like putting the phone in airplane mode with brightness and volume maxxed, setting the phone to play a movie file repeatedly until it turns off and measuring the time.
muyoso said:
http://batteryboss.org/
Seidio extended batteries are usually around 82% of rated capacity.
That would put the Seidio 3000mah at around 2460 mah.
That is why I would love to see a test between the two that reduces all variables to make it as fair as possible. Something like putting the phone in airplane mode with brightness and volume maxxed, setting the phone to play a movie file repeatedly until it turns off and measuring the time.
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Ah I see. I would do this if I had my spare phone on hand, but unfortunately I don't. I might do it one of these days when I'm at the library studying.
Are there any other suggestions as to how to test the battery life?
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Are there any other suggestions as to how to test the battery life?
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The only way to test the "battery life" is to see how many charge and discharge cycles you can get. You need a tester circuit that accelerates this process or you will be doing this for a long time. Alternatively you can do a discharge test and so long as you use the same circuit you can then make some intelligent guesstimates in comparing the batteries.
The problem with mfgs are that they don't use the same parameters in testing. Thus two identical batteries can be rated at different capacities.
The short answer: Buy a high quality battery and forget the BS.
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Top Nurse said:
The only way to test the "battery life" is to see how many charge and discharge cycles you can get. You need a tester circuit that accelerates this process or you will be doing this for a long time. Alternatively you can do a discharge test and so long as you use the same circuit you can then make some intelligent guesstimates in comparing the batteries.
The problem with mfgs are that they don't use the same parameters in testing. Thus two identical batteries can be rated at different capacities.
The short answer: Buy a high quality battery and forget the BS.
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I hear that, Hopefully the sedio preforms well. I am starting to realize it makes more sense carrying an extra oem battery then having a cheapo extended one, due to the size it adds.
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I hear that, Hopefully the sedio preforms well. I am starting to realize it makes more sense carrying an extra oem battery then having a cheapo extended one, due to the size it adds.
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I got 3 extra samsung batteries and so extended batteries don't make a lot of sense. I usually get them for free as well.
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I too have a couple of spare batteries, but it was a pain in the ass having to keep them with me and swap batteries, charge batteries, etc etc. I much prefer having one extended as opposed to multiple spares.
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I too have a couple of spare batteries, but it was a pain in the ass having to keep them with me and swap batteries, charge batteries, etc etc. I much prefer having one extended as opposed to multiple spares.
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Same here, the only downside is the thickness the battery adds to the phone. I HAVE to use my extended battery at work since I'm nowhere near a charger, listen to my music all day and paint in a dungeon so there is a lot of crap that could possibly get inside my phone when switching batteries but on the weekends I rock the regular battery.
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Same here, the only downside is the thickness the battery adds to the phone. I HAVE to use my extended battery at work since I'm nowhere near a charger, listen to my music all day and paint in a dungeon so there is a lot of crap that could possibly get inside my phone when switching batteries but on the weekends I rock the regular battery.
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For me, the only disadvantage to the thickness is not being able to use a case. I don't mind the thickness at all (I was a former Treo lover LOL), but it bugs me not having a case on the back half of my phone.
Can be bout cheaper for about $55
mobilecityonline. com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
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The reviews for Mobile City Online are kinda bad on resellerratings. com:
resellerratings. com/store/MobileCityOnline 3/10 stars.
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zomg, it's impossible to have a discussion on the internet without posting links.
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The reviews for Mobile City Online are kinda bad on resellerratings. com:
resellerratings. com/store/MobileCityOnline 3/10 stars.
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zomg, it's impossible to have a discussion on the internet without posting links.
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I didn't read the review, I got an shipping confirmation next day from new york. I payed with my credit card so an problems i have a little security. They better not send me the 3000mah one.
This cover is a pain to put on
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This cover is a pain to put on
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If you are talking about the extended battery cover then you just have to push on it really hard to snap it into place, it also helps to squeeze the edges inward
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I just got my 3300 mAh battery yesterday and charged for about 9 hours...took off charger at , midnight and I still have 15 % left...and I have been trying to kill it
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Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
surrealjam said:
No, they are not the same size. However, the battery from the Armani SGS (i9010) is also a 1650mah and that one is identical in shape and size. Check out the accessories section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743) for more information - there were people selling these on eBay.
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Ah ok. Just noticed that I missed the whole accesories section indeed .
And the i9003 (1650mAh) battery will also fit.
Denizzje said:
Hello everybody,
I am wonder if the battery of the SGS II is compatible with its predecessor. Because the battery seems to have a higher capacity than the one of the Galaxy S I, I am wonder if the battery will fit and work. Has anyone tried this? I could use some extra batterypower.
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If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
chandramohan1986 said:
If u really want a good battery life, Hk and china's online stores have 2700mah and 3000 mah, both are made my different companies, also come with additional back cover, because of high capacity size also big, you cant use regular samsung's back cover, I feel this one is better brand name MOMAX, COmpany from HK, 2700 mah, price is 300 rmb, around 40 USD
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
I am not saying it will inevitably result in spontaneous combustion, nor that you should not do it at all, just that the risk is higher. (The charging circuitry is usually specifically designed for a certian battery, and not hongkonk replacements).
Even if you do use them without problems (I had a few of those myself), please, dispose of it once you observe it seems to "swell", meaning it getting thicker than before.
Consult youtube if you want to know what exactly could happen in worst case (search for lithium battery fire) - lithium burns at higher temperatures than 2.000 degrees celsius.
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That's why I use external wall charger
I never charge high capacity batteries while plugged to the device
T_Frain_K said:
Please, pay attention on this matter.
Usually, cheap and higher-capacity batteries are lithium polymer technology opposed to the safer but more expensive lithium-ion ones you have in your phone.
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From what I've seen, most cheap, higher-capacity batteries are, simply not higher capacity. Someone over in the Captivate forum actually did some quantitative measurements. The results were that none of the cheap, 3rd party batteries came close to their listed capacity. Only the OEM batteries were close to their rated capacity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906611
Edit: The doubles-sized, extended batteries will certainly have more capacity than the OEM stock battery, but it's not likely to have anywhere near the capacity that it says it does. Oh, and, as far as I know, these tests were not done on any of the premium 3rd party batteries - just the cheap ones.
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
Chillaholic said:
I got the 1650mAh Armani battery for about 24€ includet taxes and sending.
Its really great and fits like the stock one. I dont want to buy china-bombs,
that make my phone look like a call booth.
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That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
Denizzje said:
That sounds reasonable. Where did you get it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886743
Its mentioned in the first post.
You have to order by phone.
Here are all the partner shops in europe.
https://www.aswo.com/internet/ICM99_ENG.NSF/(html)/LinkFrame_4?OpenDocument
it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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it costs 600 rupees for the 1650mah battery in india..vfm actually
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The 1650 mAh battery you are talking about is the one for the galaxy SL? Does it fit into the sgs properly?
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The ones using 1650 mah batteries can you tell me that you realized longer battery life?
Since it is only 10 percent higher than the stock battery it should have only 10 percent more battery life. So the extension of battery life for me it is about 2 - 2.5 more hours MAXIMUM and that does not make sense to me.
It should be 10% but for me it feels more like 20-30%.
Maby I loaded my 1500mAh battery wrong,
but it seems to me to be a bigger different between both.
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
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Well the evo 3d battery is 3.8v and ours is 3.7v so that might mess up your phone.
And my extended battery not only is a tiny bit bigger but it also weighs more and gives me about 15 hrs a day.
If you can get the type of battery efficiency I get on a daily basis with normal usage then maybe I might believe you.
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all phones have built in voltage control circuitry. 0.1v is not going to harm anything.
that is how phones can handle a stock battery going from ~4v to ~3v while it discharges.
3.8v vs 3.7v is just the nominal voltage of the battery. the voltage of the evo3d is higher since it's capacity is higher.
Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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Well, sorry to rain on your PSA but I was running stock battery (and quite happy with the performance of the stock btw), I opted to try the Anker battery. With little to no expectations, I was really looking for an extra battery, so spending 12usd wasn't bad compared to my Seidio extended battery for my N1 that cost double of the Anker.
I was simply expecting stock performance and got a bit more than expected. Is it magic? Who the heck cares, it works!
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if it works for you, more power to you
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if it works for you, more power to you
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That's the point, no?
1000th POST LOL
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That's the point, no?
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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haha yes, pun was intended. I'm curious: do you still have your stock battery?
Could you compare thickness with the Anker? if it is thicker, there's where your extra capacity is coming from.
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Yes the Anker battery is a smidge thicker, not much to the naked eye. As posted in another thread, it's slightly heavier as well. And that could account for a bit more capacity.
The Anker battery without a doubt lasts alot longer than the stock battery!
I don't think all these stuff matter as long as user experience/reviews with the batteries prove positive.
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It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
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And what about a pentiline or normal AA battery that would fit in a mp3 player or kids toy or even a dildo? All same sizes and yet thy exists in different capacities?
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he's absolutely right. theres a very large capacity differential between standard batteries of varying internal composition. easiest reference, test out a lithium ion battery versus a nickel cadmium battery (both come in AA), which are exactly the same size, and tell me theres no more capacity in one than the other.
Electrical capacitance, as we have seen throughout history has nothing to do with size, so the OP is arguing against the progression of physics. 50 years ago, a battery capable of powering a sensation would have been as big as a book, and yet they used that "magic" you were saying didnt exist to "cram more mAH" into a smaller battery.
Size means very little. Internal construction and quality mean everything. I have seen D cell batteries that are really a AA inside a D cell case. Perhaps the HTC battery is built the same? I dont know, nor do I intend to find out.
If you drain the battery at a constant rate (no, not with your phone, but with more accurate equipment), then you can easily figure its capacity. There is no arguing with that...The aftermarket batteries have been found to have MUCH GREATER capacity than the HTC battery. That is confirmed, 100%.
Matt
However it may be my ChiChiTec battery permits me to go a whole day without charging whereas the stock did not. That's good enough for me.
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Stock battery is really crappy... I'm still waiting for a decent review about the aftermarket battery's
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It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
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I got the seidio 1900mAh EVO battery and it does weigh a bit more but worth the extra juice on heavy usage days especially with right rom
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vivanshah said:
It is sad, but true. All the ebay, mugen, seidio etc batteries that claim 1800/900/2000/whatever capacity are scams. same size battery = same capacity.
The best bet for additional capacity with the stock backplate is the evo3D stock battery, which is 1.5mm thicker and has a couple hundred more mah.
check out www.batteryboss.org
Notice a trend with every Non-OEM battery?
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you are an idiot.. no offence intended but you havent read any of the threads on here about all the batteries availaible.
QUALITY OF THE CELLS MEANS EVERYTHING!
crap cells wont hold high amounts of energy, they wont hold as stable a voltage under load and wost of all heat up more than a quality cell.
my anker battery does weigh 2g more than the stock battery and is 0.2mm thicker but that amount of extra mass gets me 4-5 hours more use over the stock battery and thats to do with the quality of the cells more than the exta weight and size.
my stock battery heats up a lot and fast under load and causes the whole phone to get stupidly hot. Anker battery DOES NOT do this at all and only the lower part of my phone gets hot.
some cheap batteries are crap, but there are plenty of good ones too.
if you still think same size = same capacity then ask yourself this, why are some batteries worse than the stock one yet still the same size? if some can be worse then some can be better .... Right???
heres a whole website of information about batteries you can disagree with if you like.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Here is a size comparision between the stock battery (top) and the chichitec (bottom):
You guys are missing the point of the op. This is not about comparing 2 different battery chemistries. We are comparing an OEM Li-ion battery to an after market one.
The only evidence of an aftermarket battery ever being superior ( in the case that they are the same size and weight) has only been via anecdotal perception of the buyer.
If an aftermarket battery is larger/heaver, there's a chance it could out perform the OEM unit, but when tested using capacity measuring test equipment, It will usually test well below the label mAh rating, unlike the OEM cell which is usually within 3% of its labeled mAh rating.
That's not to say these batteries are not a good value for the money, they are. $12 for a replacement battery is a really good value, especially if its at least as good as the OEM unit.
The real snake oil is in the high capacity multi cell batteries, where the manufacturers have been caught (by me) to have intentionally over stated the mAh rating.
If you get better phone life from your 1700-1950mAh aftermarket battery, that's great! But I doubt you're getting more than 80% of the capacity that's stamped on the label.
I have not seen any independent tests of Sensation batteries yet, no less one that shows an after market battery delivering its labeled capacity.
After reading the many positive reviews of the Anker 1900mAh battery, I just ordered one. Lets see how it measures.
It was $10 with free shipping so I thought it was worth a shot... I received it about 2 days ago and I cannot tell the difference between the stock battery..
This sucks!
So yes, obviously I didn't expect it to be 4500 mah for $10 but I thought it will be at least 3200 or 3000. It is not.
I just want to warn others before they buy it and to hear other peoples experiences if there are any.
If you want a decent extended battery, buy the Hyperion.
I have that batt and the matching honeycomb case you can get with it and I love it.
I never have to worry about battery life anymore (even running stuff like iheart radio or Sirius online which both totally kill battery life)
I even like the feel/weight of the phone with it installed. When I bought it, I figured I would only use it occasionally. Now that I am used to using it, I never take it off the phone. The phone with the standard battery and my awesome rock quicksand case feels way too thin to me now (something I never thought I would say)
thanks morton....
I will try to see if I can return this battery.
I looked at amazon for the battery you recommended. I found it but I also found another battery: (I can't post a link)
It's called QCell and it is rated at 4200.
Any thoughts on this one?
The one you recommended is more popular but this one has NFC and it also has much more reviews.
Another thing to consider is the separate cradle battery charger that comes with a 2100 battery. This way there is always a battery on charge for a quick swap.
Weigh it. At the most basic, the amount of active material in a battery determines its overall capacity. A 4500mAh battery should be significantly heavier (roughly double) than the stock battery.
Another vote here for the Hyperion 4000 mAh battery. Very happy with it!!!
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What website is this hyperion battery?
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Think I'll wait a bit to see if anyone brings out a slim 2800 to 3300 battery with a matching back.
Hulk0069 said:
What website is this hyperion battery?
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Hyperion Battery
AdamHLG said:
Another thing to consider is the separate cradle battery charger that comes with a 2100 battery. This way there is always a battery on charge for a quick swap.
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I find this to be the easiest for me. I hate extra bulk, so I just have multiple standard batteries ready on tap.
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I bought mine here, and it is fantastic so far. http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Sam...tery-Door-Cover-4300mAh-Black-BATY-I9300-02B/
Shipping took roughly 2 weeks I think.
Hi Guys,
i got my S4 9505 from 1 month and i very very happy with it..also for good battery life, but we have removable battery and maybe there is some battery better than original..
I looking for a battery with the original size dimension but more big than the original..but above all really big.. not only write on it.. but it must to be really extended..
if someone use some battery extended with original size and is certain that is extended can give me information about your battery life, screen on time and link for buy it?
Thanks
No suggestions?
Please note it is not physically possible to accommodate more capacity into the battery for the same size, if that was possible I guess samsung would had done that for us. However why not purchase extra charger and battery case made by samsung.
But I do see Mugen doing a change by providing 2750mAh battery of same size. Check here at amazon.
Or you might have to get large extended battery and find the best the chose from.
I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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No, impossible. They claim to be 3500's but the are not. Most/all of the aftermarket high(er) capacity batteries are bogus, capacity wise.
above user is correct, don't go for chinese counterfeits claiming 3500 in same capacity and dimensions. I think the mugen is the only one out there, but its rather a stupidity.
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No, impossible. They claim to be 3500's but the are not. Most/all of the aftermarket high(er) capacity batteries are bogus, capacity wise.
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above user is correct, don't go for chinese counterfeits claiming 3500 in same capacity and dimensions. I think the mugen is the only one out there, but its rather a stupidity.
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Ah, my bad then. Luckily I haven't buy those.
thanks for the info
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But I do see Mugen doing a change by providing 2750mAh battery of same size. Check here at amazon.
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Seems good, but only 150mAh for $44.95 is too much, to much expensive for only 150mAh..
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Or you might have to get large extended battery and find the best the chose from.
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thanks, but i dont wanna buy extended battery can change the beautiful design.. im looking for more capacity battery with original size..
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I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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thanks, if you try some battery please tell me..
i found this http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1
its seems 3000mAh.. but i dont know this ZeroLemon and if this battery are good..
someone know or use this 3000mAh ZeroLemon?
Ps. Thanks guys for your replys :good:
I had a Zero Lemon slim extended battery on my SGS3. It was 2400mah vs the stock 2100. It was pretty good, giving an extra 30-45 minutes or so extra screen time and another 90-120 minutes of run time. If you find you're just cutting it close at the end of the day and you can't charge mid-day, it's worth the $20 for a pair of them plus a charger. You can get them on Amazon too. I haven't bought the S4 versions yet but I plan to - my wife and I can each get a little more battery life for a total of $20 that way.
You lose NFC, though. that's probably why they have a higher capacity - no NFC antenna. If you use that feature, or S-Beam or whatever, skip the Zero Lemons.
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I had a Zero Lemon slim extended battery on my SGS3. It was 2400mah vs the stock 2100. It was pretty good, giving an extra 30-45 minutes or so extra screen time and another 90-120 minutes of run time. If you find you're just cutting it close at the end of the day and you can't charge mid-day, it's worth the $20 for a pair of them plus a charger. You can get them on Amazon too. I haven't bought the S4 versions yet but I plan to - my wife and I can each get a little more battery life for a total of $20 that way.
You lose NFC, though. that's probably why they have a higher capacity - no NFC antenna. If you use that feature, or S-Beam or whatever, skip the Zero Lemons.
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Thanks, usefull Comment :good:
Hi guys,
nobody have tryed this battery http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1 on GS4?
I'd like to know if is good battery, if is not dangerous and if is true extendend..
thanks
I ended up with a Hyperion because it would fit the Seidio Extended (and it did perfectly). I was not at all impressed with the reviews on teh 3000mah ZeroLemon because it seems like it was thicker than the stock battery and put a bit of a bulge on the battery door. I was afraid it would not fit cases properly so I skipped it.
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Hi guys,
nobody have tryed this battery http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1 on GS4?
I'd like to know if is good battery, if is not dangerous and if is true extendend..
thanks
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these are actually 3000mAh !!
just youtube .....
u can see that it fits the stock battery cover and yes it gives about 1hr of extra screen time ....
zerolemon is a good buy compared to stock
anuj6111 said:
these are actually 3000mAh !!
just youtube .....
u can see that it fits the stock battery cover and yes it gives about 1hr of extra screen time ....
zerolemon is a good buy compared to stock
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Thanks, but is really 3000mAh?
External charger and battery kit from samsung is the best choice for me
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Thanks, but is really 3000mAh?
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i researched a lot on zerolemon ...
their product is good and is as stated no scams !!
i couldnt buy it coz they were charging $19.99 + $17(shipping) and i bought the original samsung battery kit for $32 where i live .....
but i had researched a lot on the company before making the decision towards them.... only regret is samsung gave me 1 battery + charger 1.7mAh .... zerolemon was giving 2 batteries + chrager 600mAh.... so i basically traded only battery for a charger that charges a battery in 1hr and 30mins 0% --> 100% .....
so whats the best rate for getting a good 12 to 14 hour outta your batt