I just recently had an idea about the terrible viewing angle of the Gtab's screen. the basics of a LCD screen is a sandwich of glass, liquid crystal, electrodes, and more glass. but the most important part is the back-light, it allows you to see what is displayed on the glass. the back-light on most monitors consists of a row of LED lights and many sheets of paper that evenly spread and carry that light.
my thought being what if we replaced the the films and papers behind the glass to distribute the light better.
sorry for the long post but i realized this after watching a tare down video of an LCD screen. also after thinking when i turn my gtab upside down i can see it at most viewing angles (seeing as the LED strip is directly shining from that angle)
would this be possible?
how about finding a way to flip the screen around?
cruiser771 said:
how about finding a way to flip the screen around?
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Hmm that still doesn't solve the problem. You still get that weird angle in portrate and I don't think the cables would reach from the other side.
Good thought though.
the viewing angle has nothing to do with the backlight. A stronger backlight would be better for outdoor viewing though.
There is another long thread on the site with most of this info in it.
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I'm not saying its the backlight but the distribution of that light that is the problem
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butchconner said:
There is another long thread on the site with most of this info in it.
Rev
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Link plz. Sorry didn't see it when I searched
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Issue with viewing angle are due to the circular polariser in front of the lcd and also to the material used in the capacitive film, I doubt you will get much by playing with the backlight...
That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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I personally have zero issue with the screen. My Dell Mini 9 is the same way and I just view it head on. When I use my Mini9, I angle the screen to it's perpendicular to my view. I do the same with my Gtab.
Would it be better if it had an IPS with RGB LED backlighting? Yes, but it would also be about $400 more to buy.
That being said, I may ask LG for a sample through work, for one of their new IPS screens, just to see what a difference it makes.
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Issue with viewing angle are due to the circular polariser in front of the lcd and also to the material used in the capacitive film, I doubt you will get much by playing with the backlight...
That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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i know im talking about that capacitive film
h3llphyre said:
I personally have zero issue with the screen. My Dell Mini 9 is the same way and I just view it head on. When I use my Mini9, I angle the screen to it's perpendicular to my view. I do the same with my Gtab.
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i dont have much of an issue till im typing or lay it flat on a table
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So, I was just admiring my i9023 in a cab. Noticed that when the sun reflects off of the glass, the reflected image is a square with a neat little "X" in the middle. Anyone else notice this? Haha, it's pretty whatever but, I thought it was kinda nifty. I guess it's cos of the curved glass.
How about a picture?
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So, I was just admiring my i9023 in a cab. Noticed that when the sun reflects off of the glass, the reflected image is a square with a neat little "X" in the middle. Anyone else notice this? Haha, it's pretty whatever but, I thought it was kinda nifty. I guess it's cos of the curved glass.
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i'm not sure, but deejay may be onto something here. i've just had a go at trying to reflect some light, and saw somewhat of an x in the middle of the screen - it didn't look like finger smudges as it was too perfect an 'X' (no screen protector here!)
this will be awesome for burning ants when they attack in x-formation!
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i'm not sure, but deejay may be onto something here. i've just had a go at trying to reflect some light, and saw somewhat of an x in the middle of the screen - it didn't look like finger smudges as it was too perfect an 'X' (no screen protector here!)
this will be awesome for burning ants when they attack in x-formation!
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Haha, yeah! I thought it looked like smudges at first too.
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How about a picture?
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I tried taking a picture with the FFC but, it was awkward. My phone's being replaced; I found a dead pixel.
Hm on my xoom you can see lots of tiny little X's but thats the digitizer, are you guys talking about a X like in the boot up? but a stationary image?
It's like
XXXXX
XXXXX
XXXXX
XXXXX
XXXXX
XXXXX
I noticed it when I first got my phone 3 months ago. I thought my phone was scratched up..
i have the 9020 and i dont see any x's.so its only the 23? that has it?
I will post a picture when I get a replacement phone from Samsung.
I believe what it is that you are seeing has something to do with the S-LCD screen of the i9023 model of the Nexus S and those of us with the i9020 varients will not see this as our screens are SAMOLED.
My HTC HD7 has a bunch of little dots in it when you look at it in the light and it has an LCD display.
I have just looked at my Nexus S in the light and see nothing and again I have an i9020 model with SAMOLED screen.
I'll try to post a picture too asap, I must say this phone looks amazing when it's naked!
And I used to like the iPhone's design...
Yeah I think that any LCD variant has the XXXX in sunlight, but not any variant of Amoled. My Touch Pro2 did this (regular LCD) and both my N1 and NS don't do this.
It's the digitizer, for the love of god, not a design pattern.
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It's the digitizer, for the love of god, not a design pattern.
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LOL, he's right. Move along now fellas.
That is actually pretty neat
How does the screen look outdoors?
I know its ips not the ips+ gorilla glass that is on the prime. How do they compare?
Is it readable and usable or do you find yourself using a makeshift sun visor with your hands to read the screen?
Display units in stores always have good lighting and great screen but Best Buy won't let you test tablets out in the parking lots. While most of the time I will use a tablet indoors, on occasion I will be outside, sitting out on a deck or using it in as a passenger in a car. Web browsing and using the office applications would be general use of the tablet. Some movie watching and angry birds in the mix.
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How does the screen look outdoors?
I know its ips not the ips+ gorilla glass that is on the prime. How do they compare?
Is it readable and usable or do you find yourself using a makeshift sun visor with your hands to read the screen?
Display units in stores always have good lighting and great screen but Best Buy won't let you test tablets out in the parking lots. While most of the time I will use a tablet indoors, on occasion I will be outside, sitting out on a deck or using it in as a passenger in a car. Web browsing and using the office applications would be general use of the tablet. Some movie watching and angry birds in the mix.
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You can definitely see the screen outside, to be honest i think the fingerprint smudges make it most difficult to see the screen in bright sunlight rather than the brightness being too low. If you wanted to realistically be able to use it outside then you would probably have to find somewhere in the shade, unless its a cloudy day, then youll be fine.
One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
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One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
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Lol I was wondering about that
Op - its the fingerprints that kill it
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jhbryaniv said:
One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
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Yep, that's how a polarizer works with all LCD screens. I won't bore you with the physics.
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Yep, that's how a polarizer works with all LCD screens. I won't bore you with the physics.
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Only taken entry level waves, but don't lcds emit polarized light in the first place?
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Well in the UK we're having a sunny spell right now and as I type I'm on my TF300 in the sunlight. I'm facing the sun so it's behind my tablet, I've got Polarised glasses on and I'm having no issue seeing the screen. It seems fine for web browsing though to be fair I'm yet to try a video. Wiht polarised glasses on I can still see the screen no matter the direciton. If I face the screen to the sun it's only clear enought to read black text on white.
I just took a picture of my tablet on my DHD in the sunlight. It's clearer for me than what it shows in the picture but it might give you an idea.
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So I went to watch Pokemon 8) in the sun, was quite difficult to see clearly. It was impossible to see an object a similar colour to the background.
I only recently noticed that a strip along the top of my screen is lighter than the rest of the screen. This is different than the screen bleed, which is gradual and you see really at only extreme viewing angles. This lightness is even and follows along several rows of pixels.
Here are some pictures I took: http://imgur.com/a/P9G0a
I should note that I am using Franco Kernel, but I don't see why that would result in this kind of strip.
Is this a screen defect? What would cause this?
Thanks!
I have the same issue. It doesn't bother me too much though, and I'm not sure if its an LCD thing (my previous screen was an AMOLED)
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I only recently noticed that a strip along the top of my screen is lighter than the rest of the screen. This is different than the screen bleed, which is gradual and you see really at only extreme viewing angles. This lightness is even and follows along several rows of pixels.
Here are some pictures I took: http://imgur.com/a/P9G0a
I should note that I am using Franco Kernel, but I don't see why that would result in this kind of strip.
Is this a screen defect? What would cause this?
Thanks!
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I have the same issue. I'm not sure if it was like that from the beginning or just happened gradually.
Did you end up exchanging it or keeping it?
mines the same the whole way round the phone
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mines the same the whole way round the phone
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What do you mean?
You have a light strip on all four sides?
Hi Everyone,
I recently bought a Oneplus one and am a bit disappointed with the display. Besides having the yellow part at the bottom, when I look a little at it at an angle I see the screen tint to whitish almost blue and this effect increases as my eyes level to the surface, this is best seen by looking from the right corner of the screen with a black background. Is this normal? I only need my head to be slightly away from the screen to notice it. Also I notice light bleed from the top.
Let me know if this is just an effect of the LCD display and if its normal. I've used amoled displays before this.
Regards,
Bobbie
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Hi Everyone,
I recently bought a Oneplus one and am a bit disappointed with the display. Besides having the yellow part at the bottom, when I look a little at it at an angle I see the screen tint to whitish almost blue and this effect increases as my eyes level to the surface, this is best seen by looking from the right corner of the screen with a black background. Is this normal? I only need my head to be slightly away from the screen to notice it. Also I notice light bleed from the top.
Let me know if this is just an effect of the LCD display and if its normal. I've used amoled displays before this.
Regards,
Bobbie
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I don't have this issue on mine. Honestly though, why is it such an issue? The scenario you're describing would just never happen in the normal use of the phone, nobody looks at their phone on such an angle when using it.
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I don't have this issue on mine. Honestly though, why is it such an issue? The scenario you're describing would just never happen in the normal use of the phone, nobody looks at their phone on such an angle when using it.
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Hi Heisenberg,
Thanks for the quick reply. I do notice it during normal use otherwise it wouldn't be a problem. The phone is on the left side of my computer now and as i'm looking at it I notice the whitish blue tint while using a black background.
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Hi Heisenberg,
Thanks for the quick reply. I do notice it during normal use otherwise it wouldn't be a problem. The phone is on the left side of my computer now and as i'm looking at it I notice the whitish blue tint while using a black background.
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Fair enough. Dunno what to say though, I have two of these and neither of them have a tint when viewed on any angles. I initially thought my screen protector might be why but that can't be the case because one of them doesn't have a protector on it.
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Fair enough. Dunno what to say though, I have two of these and neither of them have a tint when viewed on any angles. I initially thought my screen protector might be why but that can't be the case because one of them doesn't have a protector on it.
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Mine does have a screen protector on it that was already on it when I received it, could it cause some kind of tinting? I only see it from an angle not if i just look down from the top to the bottom of the phone, then it looks perfect.
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Mine does have a screen protector on it that was already on it when I received it, could it cause some kind of tinting? I only see it from an angle not if i just look down from the top to the bottom of the phone, then it looks perfect.
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It's possible. Those films that come already on the phone aren't actually screen protectors as such, well they're not meant to be used for an extended period of time anyway, they're really just to give light protection during the shipping process. I'd recommend you remove that one and get yourself a good tempered glass protector. The Nillkin 9H is exceptional and it's quite cheap too (less than $10).
Anyone else notice the lines hidden in the front glass? It's definitely part of the construction and is impossible to see from the light on the lcd. You can see it if you catch glare from a lightbulb and only on the exact spot of the glare.
Just curious, but to me this looks like a ridging pattern to make the glass strong. Has anyone seen this on other phones or this phone?
I noticed the lines too last night.
Yep but its an LCD panel with Sharps edge technology. Otherwords: it is what it is. The screen looks fake once I turn it on.
sometimes I notice the lines from the touch layer in the right lighting on nearly all my devices... is that what your seeing?
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sometimes I notice the lines from the touch layer in the right lighting on nearly all my devices... is that what your seeing?
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I haven't had a device yet where the sensor could not be seen in the correct light.
Even my Nexus 6P shows lines with light at the correct angle.
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sometimes I notice the lines from the touch layer in the right lighting on nearly all my devices... is that what your seeing?
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I believe so. They are definitely inside the glass. I've just never seen them on another phone. Like I said I cant see them unless it's a direct glare hitting it from a lightbulb or something.
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I believe so. They are definitely inside the glass. I've just never seen them on another phone. Like I said I cant see them unless it's a direct glare hitting it from a lightbulb or something.
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That sounds normal. I don't have the device yet, so I'm just going by my own experience on other devices.
While it is much more distinct on this device. It's normal. I can even see it on my pixel XL if I'm looking for it.
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