How does the screen look outdoors?
I know its ips not the ips+ gorilla glass that is on the prime. How do they compare?
Is it readable and usable or do you find yourself using a makeshift sun visor with your hands to read the screen?
Display units in stores always have good lighting and great screen but Best Buy won't let you test tablets out in the parking lots. While most of the time I will use a tablet indoors, on occasion I will be outside, sitting out on a deck or using it in as a passenger in a car. Web browsing and using the office applications would be general use of the tablet. Some movie watching and angry birds in the mix.
dzslacker said:
How does the screen look outdoors?
I know its ips not the ips+ gorilla glass that is on the prime. How do they compare?
Is it readable and usable or do you find yourself using a makeshift sun visor with your hands to read the screen?
Display units in stores always have good lighting and great screen but Best Buy won't let you test tablets out in the parking lots. While most of the time I will use a tablet indoors, on occasion I will be outside, sitting out on a deck or using it in as a passenger in a car. Web browsing and using the office applications would be general use of the tablet. Some movie watching and angry birds in the mix.
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You can definitely see the screen outside, to be honest i think the fingerprint smudges make it most difficult to see the screen in bright sunlight rather than the brightness being too low. If you wanted to realistically be able to use it outside then you would probably have to find somewhere in the shade, unless its a cloudy day, then youll be fine.
One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
jhbryaniv said:
One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
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Lol I was wondering about that
Op - its the fingerprints that kill it
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jhbryaniv said:
One issue I have, and living in South Florida it is kind of a big deal, is that turned portrait with polarized eyeware on the screen goes black. Turned landscape no issues... Coming from the original transformer this disappoints me. I had no issues on the og tf...
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Yep, that's how a polarizer works with all LCD screens. I won't bore you with the physics.
Citruspers said:
Yep, that's how a polarizer works with all LCD screens. I won't bore you with the physics.
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Only taken entry level waves, but don't lcds emit polarized light in the first place?
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Well in the UK we're having a sunny spell right now and as I type I'm on my TF300 in the sunlight. I'm facing the sun so it's behind my tablet, I've got Polarised glasses on and I'm having no issue seeing the screen. It seems fine for web browsing though to be fair I'm yet to try a video. Wiht polarised glasses on I can still see the screen no matter the direciton. If I face the screen to the sun it's only clear enought to read black text on white.
I just took a picture of my tablet on my DHD in the sunlight. It's clearer for me than what it shows in the picture but it might give you an idea.
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So I went to watch Pokemon 8) in the sun, was quite difficult to see clearly. It was impossible to see an object a similar colour to the background.
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I just recently had an idea about the terrible viewing angle of the Gtab's screen. the basics of a LCD screen is a sandwich of glass, liquid crystal, electrodes, and more glass. but the most important part is the back-light, it allows you to see what is displayed on the glass. the back-light on most monitors consists of a row of LED lights and many sheets of paper that evenly spread and carry that light.
my thought being what if we replaced the the films and papers behind the glass to distribute the light better.
sorry for the long post but i realized this after watching a tare down video of an LCD screen. also after thinking when i turn my gtab upside down i can see it at most viewing angles (seeing as the LED strip is directly shining from that angle)
would this be possible?
how about finding a way to flip the screen around?
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how about finding a way to flip the screen around?
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Hmm that still doesn't solve the problem. You still get that weird angle in portrate and I don't think the cables would reach from the other side.
Good thought though.
the viewing angle has nothing to do with the backlight. A stronger backlight would be better for outdoor viewing though.
There is another long thread on the site with most of this info in it.
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I'm not saying its the backlight but the distribution of that light that is the problem
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butchconner said:
There is another long thread on the site with most of this info in it.
Rev
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Link plz. Sorry didn't see it when I searched
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Issue with viewing angle are due to the circular polariser in front of the lcd and also to the material used in the capacitive film, I doubt you will get much by playing with the backlight...
That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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I personally have zero issue with the screen. My Dell Mini 9 is the same way and I just view it head on. When I use my Mini9, I angle the screen to it's perpendicular to my view. I do the same with my Gtab.
Would it be better if it had an IPS with RGB LED backlighting? Yes, but it would also be about $400 more to buy.
That being said, I may ask LG for a sample through work, for one of their new IPS screens, just to see what a difference it makes.
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Issue with viewing angle are due to the circular polariser in front of the lcd and also to the material used in the capacitive film, I doubt you will get much by playing with the backlight...
That said the spec of the screen are not the worst I have seen, far from it...
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i know im talking about that capacitive film
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I personally have zero issue with the screen. My Dell Mini 9 is the same way and I just view it head on. When I use my Mini9, I angle the screen to it's perpendicular to my view. I do the same with my Gtab.
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i dont have much of an issue till im typing or lay it flat on a table
Why do viewing angles matter on a cellphone? I can understand on a Television that is being watched by people in a room that are not sitting centered to the screen, but on a cellphone? Do people use their cellphone while it is flat on the desk off-centered?
It really seem quite odd to me. In reviews they make it seem like a big deal when an LCD screen looks washed out when viewed at an angle. Then they praise these iPhone IPS screens which are not usable in direct sunlight. I rather a screen that works in direct sunlight personally over one with great viewing angle.
Poor viewing angles = privacy screen
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Why do viewing angles matter on a cellphone? I can understand on a Television that is being watched by people in a room that are not sitting centered to the screen, but on a cellphone? Do people use their cellphone while it is flat on the desk off-centered?
It really seem quite odd to me. In reviews they make it seem like a big deal when an LCD screen looks washed out when viewed at an angle. Then they praise these iPhone IPS screens which are not usable in direct sunlight. I rather a screen that works in direct sunlight personally over one with great viewing angle.
Poor viewing angles = privacy screen
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Same reason some reviews on cars with heated/ac seats vs cars without exist. I'm with you on this. I personally don't want a screen that someone seated next to me somewhere can also glance over and clearly read. I'll leave that kind of fuss to the tech snobs.
I understand what you are trying to say but I guess I do not see the analogy. I can see the utility of heated seats. Maybe not in Florida or California as much but I can see how having seats that apply heat directly to your body without making the entire cabin like a sauna useful (I had an Infiniti with heated seats but admittedly never used em)
But when do you need to look at your phone at a 170 degree angle?
hello,
Are you satisfied with the tf300t screen quality? I think the black on mine is a little uneven with really faint lines when the screen is completely black.do you think it is normal?
thanks
It would be way better if it weren't for the large areas of light bleed around the edges and corners! Other than than, I'm satisfied.
I get loads of backlight bleeding on mine. The screen as a whole (including the glass surface) seems a step backward from the TF101.
I just started noticing light bleed on the left and right sides of mine. Nothing major, only really noticeable on the loading screen and to a lesser extent, my primarily black wallpaper (a style I tend to favor).
Other than that, I have no complaints. Although, if I fire up Angry Birds Space and put it right next to my girlfriends iPad 2, it definitely does not look quite as nice.
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My old Prime had some noticable bleeding several places around the edges, but that was only visible when displaying black and at a high brightness.
I've always hated light bleeding, and also uneven black-levels, but I always get devices with these errors no matter what... I've had 6 different LCD-TV's, and every one of them has had various problems with light bleeding / uneven backlight / black levels - so i started to think it wasn't possible to get it perfect, and that it was only me who was being too demanding.
However, my TF300T seems perfect - guess I'm lucky with this one
I just bought this tablet and there is one spot (about the size of my thumb, in the lower left quadrant of the screen) that shows up lighter against a dark background-- for ex. when it's booting up.
It's bothering me but I haven't decided if I'll attempt to get it exchanged (I could get a worse one?).
well,I just found a tiny little dot on the screen.It doesn't seem to be a dead pixel but a tiny hole in the polarizer...
On my second device. Traded my 16 for a 32gbversion when they first released them. My 16 screen was perfect out of the box, no bleed, no dead pixels. My 32 looks like a shop light when booting but i don't notice it during use. Watch out,the screens scratch soooo easy. Definitely pick up a screen guard, this isn't gorilla glass.
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On my second device. Traded my 16 for a 32gbversion when they first released them. My 16 screen was perfect out of the box, no bleed, no dead pixels. My 32 looks like a shop light when booting but i don't notice it during use. Watch out,the screens scratch soooo easy. Definitely pick up a screen guard, this isn't gorilla glass.
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i can confirm this as well although it doesn't bother me at all, the scratches are light so you don't see them when the screen is on. i'd rather have a few light scratches then a screen protector since i always get lint or dust stuck under the protector, even when i'm extra carefull and this bothers me more than scratches.
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I took the plunge and decided to try out the S6... 32GB in black (don't need 64GB). Anyway, I'm already sketched out about AMOLED screens as it is since I am OCD when it comes to screens. I tried to stick with LCD/IPS but all current IPS Android phones suck, such as the G4 and the M9. Most of the market now uses AMOLED screens.
Well... I get the phone home and I was actually amazed that it was decently uniform, no horrible pink areas, grays seem as even as I can get on an AMOLED screen, so I guess it'll work. HOWEVER... when angling the phone downward, or looking at the phone from the top, I notice these strange "scratches" or whatever. They're not on the glass and they don't appear at any other angles, including both sides and from the bottom. I've attached some pics to show you what I'm referring to.
Has anyone seen this kind of thing before? Just my luck that I think I finally get a screen that's as perfect as can be and there's still something wrong with it. Honestly as long as it doesn't get worse I guess I'll live with it, I hate playing the AMOLED screen lottery like I've done in the past.
Use the phone looking straight on rather than an angle like that as it is intended to be looked at.
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Any other remarks other than from the peanut gallery above?
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Didn't the launch S6 have issues with various scratches under the glass? I could have sworn that was a legitimate issue. If anything try taking it back to the store to see if they will replace it for you without having to hassle with the insurance if you have it.
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Yeah those pink scratches don't look right, I would ask them to turn on new phone and you do your inspection before they transfer line over.
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Didn't the launch S6 have issues with various scratches under the glass? I could have sworn that was a legitimate issue. If anything try taking it back to the store to see if they will replace it for you without having to hassle with the insurance if you have it.
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Yeah those pink scratches don't look right, I would ask them to turn on new phone and you do your inspection before they transfer line over.
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I did look up the assumed "issue" and didn't turn up anything, just the issue with the outer glass being scratched on new Edge models.
Honestly I don't see them until I turn the phone at that angle, which I'm sure 95% of the time won't be viewing the screen from that position anyway. And honestly with my OCD with AMOLEDs and this screen being acceptable is a sigh of relief, so as long as the pink marks don't spread or become visible with normal viewing I'll deal with it. That, and I got the phone at a good price so it's still a win for me I guess.
This was a very hot issue at launch and it effected all variants not just the edge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3070278
Disregard this thread. Because of the junk speaker, horrible LTE and wifi reception and terrible battery life this phone went back. Very disappointed with Samsung.
I'm glad I don't really have any of those issues...or at least I'll pretend like I dont.
As some of you may know the S6 had one of the worst polarizers to ever be put on a flagship phone. Wearing polarized sunglasses made it almost impossible to use the phone.
Can anyone test this with S7 and tell me if its been improved or does it still look like an oil puddle?
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I don't think it's different.
Can you explain more why s6 polarizer is bad?
I have never seen any people complain about it.
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he's wearing polarized sun glasses in the club and complains about bad samsung screens
I've had no problems with mine. Nor, apparently, did DisplayMate:
Can be Used with Polarized Sunglasses
Almost all displays emit polarized light. As a result, if you are wearing polarized sunglasses the display may appear dark or invisible in either the portrait or landscape orientations. This is almost always the case with LCDs and many manufacturers still seem oblivious to this problem, which I pointed out back in 2012 in this news article. But it’s still an issue – for example, with polarized sunglasses the iPhone 6 and 6s screens are significantly darkened in the normal portrait orientation (rather than in the less used landscape orientation). The ideal solution is to set the polarizer angle to 45 degrees so that the display is equally bright in both landscape and portrait orientations – unfortunately many LCD technologies can’t do that. OLED displays don’t emit polarized light, however, all of the Galaxy OLED displays (including the S6, S7, and Note 5) include a polarizer (as part of a Quarter Wave Plate) to significantly reduce screen Reflectance of ambient light, and… it’s oriented at the ideal 45 degree angle so you can watch the OLED screen with polarized sunglasses in both the portrait and landscape orientations!
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
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he's wearing polarized sun glasses in the club and complains about bad samsung screens
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Troll or moron?
meyerweb said:
I've had no problems with mine. Nor, apparently, did DisplayMate:
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm
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Sounds like complete Bulls***
S6 edge looked like an oil puddle in landscape and even in portrait it's only unaffected at a direct angle.
There is no such issue at any angle on my iPhone as an example.
I use polarized sunglasses all the time when I'm out fishing, and no problem, perfectly clear view...