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I have the chance to get a new phone, and I have decided its going to be between the G2 and the Samsung Captivate. I'm on the AT&T network, and I'm probably not gonna have data, so the speeds of data and 2G/3G network speeds shouldn't be that much of a factor. I did research on them and both of them seem pretty good but I'm not sure which of the two I should actually get.
I do text a lot so the keyboard on the G2 would be a little helpful, but the Captivate has that nice Super AMOLED screen. I do however plan to be doing a lot with the phone, like rooting it, so please keep that in mind as well.
What would some of you suggest? Any help would be great. Thanks.
Captivate.
Don't know much about the g2 but I do currently own a captivate and its a great phone very easy too root and install roms. I would start from there research which one is easier too root and which ones have the best roms and what not.
Never was a big fan of a physical keyboard. so I can tell you that the typing on the captivate is pretty accurate. Also the screen is bigger! Lol but enough about my bias opinion just find out the hacking capabilities of both as well and go from there
But to make a long story short like the guy ahead of me.
Captivate FTW
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If you plan to stick with the stock ROM then get the G2. Otherwise, get the Captivate. With a custom ROM the Galaxy S phones blow all the others away.
Both are great phones, but I think all of the people recommending the Captivate are forgetting that the G2 is sort of 'future-proof' in that it has HSDPA+ built in for T-Mobile's kinda-sorta 4G network. It's really up to you if you think you'd need that.
Another question to ask yourself is do you need a physical keyboard or not. And finally, which phone do you prefer as of right now?
Well I'm not really sure about the physical keyboard, if the touch keyboard thats on the Captivate is good, then I guess I wouldn't really need the physical keyboard. I also remember hearing that it has Swype on it as well, so I dunno if Swype is actually faster than a physical keyboard or not. The 4G connectivity would be good, but I don't have T-Mobile so it doesn't really apply to me all that much
Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
Pickx said:
Do you require a keyboard or have a lot to gain from having one? If so, htc Vision is your best bet in the market right now.
Otherwise, save your money because single core processors will be phased out in a matter of months.
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Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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The G2 is the fastest (other than games... its close tho) with a little overclocking, and has a clearer, smaller but less bright screen. I wish I had that extra .3" sometimes. Physical keyboard is sweet, but I can type near as well with the on screen keyboard on the galaxy s'. They also have a better vibrate-on-keypress. Did I mention that this phone is fast? Stuff just does what you tell it.
Also, I know this is just the general forum but the dual core info... I wouldn't believe much of it
If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
well said I forgot all about gps
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shanghei said:
If you plan on using GPS at all, stay away from the Captivate.
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+1 also if u dont want to be wait for official roms get the Vision [i have a vibrant too so just saying]
Tchem said:
Its funny you say that they are coming out with dual core processors but still using the same battery as single core. So imagine how fast the battery will fade on you. On top of that the price of the phone will almost double. So I give em late 4th quarter 2011 before these phone will actually blow up.
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Double the cores doesn't always mean double the price or battery life.(Nor should people expect double the performance) Being a mobile platform, I'm sure one of the major points they worked with is battery life. Different from dual processor, which you power both cpus, both sockets, and everything on each cpu. Where as one chip, you just power one chip. Same thing goes with price. a quad core cpu is considerably less than 2 dual cores. I'm not saying that it will cost as much and use as much power as a single core, but it's not going to be as high as you think.
I don't know quite who Google is pitching the Nexus S at... To me, it makes no sense but I'd like to get the opinion of owners and why you upgraded (or if, indeed, this is your first Android phone)
As I see it, the NS makes no sense whatsoever except perhaps that panel availability for the N1 may have forced their hand - I'm wondering if the switch to Samsung as a manufacturer relates to the availability of AMOLED displays... Both the GS and the NS feel very flimsy to me compared to HTC devices... Although the GPU is much faster, I don't think that alone really justifies it and regardless of my feelings for Samsung as a manufacturer I just can't understand why Google didn't just release 2.3 for the N1, and wait for multicore Cortex A9-based SOCs like Tegra 2 to come to market and give people an actual upgrade regardless of the manufacturer of the device, rather than just the same thing in a different shell, creating yet more market fragmentation?!
Edit: And I've owned a lot of 3G phones with front-facing cameras over the years and have yet to use one! NFC might prove useful, but surely it could've waited for the next 'proper' upgrade to the 'Google Phone'?
Why? Why not.....its powerful, fairly priced, good looking, cutting edge OS, no bloatware, great screen, and it is nice and exclusive.
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Why? Why not.....its powerful, fairly priced, good looking, cutting edge OS, no bloatware, great screen, and it is nice and exclusive.
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Hmm, but that's my point... Which one of those did the N1 not fulfil? Sure, we expect a manufacturer's lines to be upgraded on a regular basis these days, but I just don't think it's enough of a step forward to justify the change... Why spend money on R&D, advertising, etc for a new device that really isn't an upgrade from the one it replaces? And it leaves N1 owners dead in the water for no good reason - I'd be a little less peeved about potentially not getting official updates from Google any more (if I were an N1 owner) if the replacement model were actually an upgrade, with a fancy dual core CPU, higher DPI screen, etc, etc... But it isn't. It just makes no sense
I mean... Imagine if the Nexus One had actually been just a G1 with a different chassis and a faster GPU, yet retained the sluggish CPU, HVGA screen, 3MP camera, etc? Everybody would have laughed at them, yet they do this with the NS and they get applauded. Tegra 2 phones are about to hit the market - does this mean another Google Phone release 6 months down the line?
I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
- Multitouch is way better
- Visibility outdoors is way better
- Capacitive buttons are way better
- gpu is way better
- CPU is better
-External speaker is better
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
- Read/writes to internal memory much faster than class 6 micro sdcard
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
- Build quality is great
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
The Nexus S makes perfect sense to me. The only thing lacking is a car dock and desktop dock. 4G would have been nice but we don't get it in my area anyway. NS is pretty much the perfect phone for me right now.
Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the N1. I just like the NS more.
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Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
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Let's remember that Android have to be optimized for dual cores to fully use its processor. And we all know how manufacturers are with OS updates
+1 for Nexus
Not coming from N1 I cannot comment. However it is fair to say that the original nexus had a long long life....I look at my wife's HTC desire, which we brought when it came out....its obsolete now. All phones get bettered....this time next year I expect dual cores will be rather past it. You will wait forever for the next best thing. Right now a Nexus S is a top drawer device.
Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.
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I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
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Hmm, that's a matter of opinion. I find 4" phones uncomfortable in the pocket.
- Multitouch is way better
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Hmm, that's true, the N1/Desire touch panel is a bit rubbish.
- Capacitive buttons are way better
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I'd prefer physical buttons either way.... Which is the main reason I got the Desire over the N1!
- CPU is better
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Not according to the benchmarks I can find. It's the same, or perhaps just a little slower MHz-to-MHz vs the Scorpion core in the Snapdragons.
- External speaker is better
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True, but they're both pretty tinny compared to some older phones like my Nokia 6233. That should be the benchmark!
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
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I have a 32GB MicroSD in my Desire... I'd like to have that option! No memory slot seems like a massive downgrade to me. Admittedly, I can't upgrade beyond 32GB, but when SDXC becomes more mainstream I can't see that its worth manufacturers cutting corners with the memory card slot. It was one of the most annoying things about my iPhone.
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
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I guess somebody has to use it! I'm glad I've finally heard of somebody who does. Every phone I had between about since 2003 'till the iPhone has had a video calling cam, as do many people I know's phones yet nobody actually seems to use them. Perhaps the prohibitive cost of video calling in the UK is part of the reason, but I'm happy enough talking to people!
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
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If it's not a pentile display, that definitely counts as an upgrade Looks are very subjective - I wouldn't call the Nexus S an 'inspired' design, but at least its not ugly like the Desire HD To me, it looks no better than the N1. The iPhone 4 is prettier, but then I'm an Apple-design whore and could never live with iOS again after using Andoid
- Build quality is great
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Feels flimsy to me... But then, so do all Samsung phones. Mmm, plasticy!
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
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I got 2495 on Quadrant on my Desire running MIUI. Really? And do benchmarks actually matter anyway? I've played with an NS, and it didn't 'feel' any faster than my phone running 2.3. Plus, surely I could have had that performance 10 months ago when the GS was released?
At the end of the day, I'm not questioning that the NS is a better phone than the N1, just whether such a minor upgrade justified it when new generation Android hardware is starting to hit the market now.
unremarked said:
Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.
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I'm not asking anybody to justify anything, I just wonder why Google have made such a move.... I'm sure the NS is a great phone, as for that matter is the GS which is pretty much identical and you could've had nearly a year ago!
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I got 2495 on Quadrant on my Desire running MIUI.
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NS hits 4100 on Quadrant. Check out the bionix kernel thread for screenshots.
Benchmarks don't mean everything but they do mean something.
EDIT: CM7 with 1.5ghz morfic kernel:
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1-star rating for yet another "NS sounds like it sucks, why should I get one?" thread... How many times have all these same questions/challenges/answers been discussed in multiple other threads?
I think anyone who says that the NS isn't a significant improvement over the N1 hardware-wise has probably never touched an NS. Now, if you want to say that the NS isn't a signficant improvement over the Galaxy S line, I wouldn't argue too much.
The display (SuperAMOLED) and touchscreen that actually does more than two points on multitouch, and does it accurately, are leaps and bounds ahead of the N1's overly-red, can't-be-used-in-sunlight display and touchscreen that is prone to inaccurate registration.
The internal ROM space is larger and faster, and you don't have to screw around with apps2sd.
The GPU is the best you can get for the near future.
It's purpose is to show manufacturers what the minimum hardware performance is, and it's market is to target users who wanted the best hardware available at the time of release with the latest version of the OS.
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I think anyone who says that the NS isn't a significant improvement over the N1 hardware-wise has probably never touched an NS. Now, if you want to say that the NS isn't a signficant improvement over the Galaxy S line, I wouldn't argue too much.
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Look... I'm not slagging you, or anybody else who bought a Nexus S off - it (like the N1) is a brilliant phone. Obviously, nobody would buy an N1 over an NS now, since they're a similar price. I'm slagging Google off for needlessly diluting the market with a product that simply doesn't need to, or have a reason to exist, rather than holding out only a couple of months for a new platform which would actually have given customers something they couldn't have bought before.
And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S. Not for long, but for long enough to know that it's exactly the same phone as the Galaxy S (a phone I did borrow for a week or so while deciding which Android phone to buy) which I could have bought 10 months ago. The fact that it is a phone I passed over to buy the Desire due to its smaller size, better build quality and less broken software (at the time, although I'm sure both the original Galaxy S and Nexus S have brilliant software even if you stick to official releases NOW.) is irrelevant to the point I'm making and purely my opinion.
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Look... I'm not slagging you, or anybody else who bought a Nexus S off - it (like the N1) is a brilliant phone. Obviously, nobody would buy an N1 over an NS now, since they're a similar price. I'm slagging Google off for needlessly diluting the market with a product that simply doesn't need to, or have a reason to exist, rather than holding out only a couple of months for a new platform which would actually have given customers something they couldn't have bought before.
And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S. Not for long, but for long enough to know that it's exactly the same phone as the Galaxy S (a phone I did borrow for a week or so while deciding which Android phone to buy) which I could have bought 10 months ago. The fact that it is a phone I passed over to buy the Desire due to its smaller size, better build quality and less broken software (at the time, although I'm sure both the original Galaxy S and Nexus S have brilliant software even if you stick to official releases NOW.) is irrelevant to the point I'm making and purely my opinion.
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Doesn't need to exist? Sounds like you just don't like Samsung.
I own a Nexus One, Vibrant, Droid X, Nexus S, G1, etc.
The Vibrant used to be the fastest of them all. The Vibrant was my main phone but there was one problem. RFS file system. It needed stock Google. I even worked on ROMs trying to clone stock Google onto the Vibrant, then the Nexus S came out with Gingerbread.
The Vibrant itself is superior to the Nexus One. The Nexus S is better than the Vibrant because of stock Google, lack of RFS, and because of Gingerbread's Hummingbird CPU JIT optimizations.
Now, the Vibrant running Froyo was still smooth and sleaker than any phone I've touched including the G2 etc. But the Nexus S is the next level up because of Gingerbread.
The Hummingbird is superior to the Nexus S Snapdragon. However the MyTouch 4g and G2 have about equal processing power as the Hummingbird, BUT the Hummingbird has the best GPU out, and WILL continue to have the best GPU out until the Qualcomm dual core or Orion comes to phones. The Tegra2 has a worse GPU than the Hummingbird. The GPU is what makes everything smooth.
The Nexus S will be top of the line until Q4 of 2011. Just like the Nexus One was pretty up there until Q4 of 2010.
Educate yourself on the processors, Hummingbird, Tegra2, Orion, Qualcomm, etc.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...ion-samsungs-implementation-of-arm-cortex-a9/
You may say the Nexus S was unnecessary, but in all honesty it couldn't be more necessary. We needed a new stock Android with a 4" screen, a Hummingbird or better CPU/GPU combo, front facing camera, and a Super AMOLED.
This phone will be hot stuff. Tegra2 isn't a worthy upgrade to a Hummingbird. They're about equal when you balance out CPU / GPU.
I'm crossing my fingers for a 4g Nexus running Honeycomb, with a Super AMOLED / retina combo (extra high resolution), and a Samsung Orion processor / GPU combo at the end of 2011. That would be the fastest device possible, and I won't be upgrading until that is out. Also it should have support for both T-Mobile HSPA+ and AT&T LTE and 3g, and Euro 3g standards. Be a multi-carrier device, just in case I need to move.
Now I'm not saying the Tegra2 is bad, but it's not heaps better than the Hummingbird.
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And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S.
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Doesn't matter to me at all.
What's the point of coming into a forum dedicated to the use of a specific device and throwing out remarks like yours?
It's clear you think the device isn't worth the money, and no one's going to convince you otherwise, so why bother? Go off and enjoy your Nexus 1 or whatever you're using - only Google/Samsung can your original questions, and they're not here...
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I'm not asking anybody to justify anything, I just wonder why Google have made such a move.... I'm sure the NS is a great phone, as for that matter is the GS which is pretty much identical and you could've had nearly a year ago!
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'cept I didn't want a Vibrant.
As there is only one poster on these forums, as far as I'm aware anyway, who actually works for Google, they are the only ones qualified to answer you on "why Google made such a move." The rest of your statement pretty much confirms you're yet another snarky poster from another section of the XDA forums who is posting here asking us to justify our purchases because you think we either A) need your permission/approval or B) are incapable of making rational and informed decisions ourselves.
Your question has been answered in the stickied FAQ in this section. I hope a mod will lock this thread soon.
unremarked said:
Q: My toys are better than your toys! Hahahaha!
Stop it and grow up. Different strokes for different folks. People spend their money on what they want to spend it on regardless of your agreement on their choice. Not to mention that this kind of behavior goes against the spirit of this community.
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I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
- Multitouch is way better
- Visibility outdoors is way better
- Capacitive buttons are way better
- gpu is way better
- CPU is better
-External speaker is better
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
- Read/writes to internal memory much faster than class 6 micro sdcard
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
- Build quality is great
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
The Nexus S makes perfect sense to me. The only thing lacking is a car dock and desktop dock. 4G would have been nice but we don't get it in my area anyway. NS is pretty much the perfect phone for me right now.
Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the N1. I just like the NS more.
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^ What this guy said. Plus the nexus s is not flimsy. I also own the nexus one and I can see the quality of build in both, even if one is aluminium and one is plastic. The nexus s is fantastic and the *best* android phone I have ever used, and I have owned plenty, including the dhd. Everything just works, and it's one of the first times on an android phone where a custom rom is really not required - there is enough space for a crap load of apps and music, and gaming on it is fantastic. Nothing is out of bounds on the nexus s.
for me the selection was simple
I wanted a SAMOLED phone that works in 1700+2100
with at least 1 Ghz stock CPU and 16 GB RAM, with GPS, and all the xtra toys and wishes it can pack inside this nice an think wafer
the only unfortunate thing is missing the external SD support
unremarked said:
Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.
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Agreed
Ugh really getting tired of these thread, my fault for even reading them though.
I know that's just like my opinion and stuff, most tech blogswill vote for 10.1tab or ipadpon 2 but we know which tab was the greatest of 2011 without a doubt. First honeycomb, first everything.
I own a Galaxy SII and a Xoom (MZ605, 3G + Wi-fi). I am extremely happy with my SGS2 and very disappointed with the Xoom.
The Galaxy is a much better android device than the Zoom. I know we're comparing onions to potatoes here, but if the Galaxy S II is any indication of what the Galaxy Tab is, then I regret immensely to have bought the Xoom instead of the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
The sgsII is imo the best phone out right now. Lack of sd card and plasticy back make the tab ten.one less desirable for me than xoom. It's just that the xoom came out way before the tab so I was basing my opinion on the fact that we have had much more experience with the honeycomb ui than most tab owners. Either way both tablets provided the best android experience available in 2011 and can't wait to see what next year brings.
I love my Xoom... to me it has been the best of the bunch in overall comparison for 2011, and it still has plenty of life in it. I would love my next tab to be a Xoom as well, but the new ones don't impress me.
I have now owned 5 tabs total including the "almighty" Galaxy 10.1 and the Xoom was the only one that didnt end up on Craigslist! The only thing the Galaxy had over my Xoom was the screen colors. Not enough to justify trading up though, i love my Xoom......
I live my xoom, but its too big for most tablets. Lots of then are so much smaller really thinner. I don't understand why this thing is so thick? But it does gave an sd card slot and that makes a huge difference to me, but the screens also kinds sucks!
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I live my xoom, but its too big for most tablets. Lots of then are so much smaller really thinner. I don't understand why this thing is so thick? But it does gave an sd card slot and that makes a huge difference to me, but the screens also kinds sucks!
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I prefer the thick, heavy metal feel of the Xoom. I pick up other tablets and most feel like toys, don't really give something solid to hold on to. With all the features and the tank-like build I am sold. Coming from a Tegra phone it is also cool to see how cool the Xoom runs while under a heavy overclocked load. Just a real nice platform.
Some like their Phantoms, some like their Miatas. I'll keep my Rolls Royce!
The Xoom was the best to me because of speaker placement. When shopping for tablets I found the Xoom to have the best sound...bar none.
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Lack of sd card and plasticy back make the tab ten.one less desirable for me than xoom.
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That`s exactly why I chose the Xoom over the GTab 10.1. I like the fact that I can simply upgrade my uSD card rather than have a device whose storage can't be upgraded.
I already bought a Class 10, 32Gb uSD card from DealExtreme.
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I love my Xoom... to me it has been the best of the bunch in overall comparison for 2011, and it still has plenty of life in it. I would love my next tab to be a Xoom as well, but the new ones don't impress me.
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I think the next xoom after the xoom2 will be really impressive. Probably sometime in April/may one year after most of us have had our of xoom they will come out with quad core,2560 x 1600 screen, 2gb ram, my wish list could go on but I mean tablets are so new that motorola should be able to get their act together and bring us another groundbreaking tablet like the og xoom.
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The Xoom was the best to me because of speaker placement. When shopping for tablets I found the Xoom to have the best sound...bar none.
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I don't like the speakers on the back because when I try to listen to something by myself the sound shoots behind the tablet into other rooms, I would have liked front facing.
If you place something behind it or cup your hands around the speakers... even in a case, it sounds like surround sound.
I have an Sg2 phone....the best by far in my opinion. I also have a Xoom tablet which I also think is the best. The specs on the Galaxy tab fell short because of the lack of SD card. My other beef about android in general is the latency factor....as I understand it about 100ms v 10ish on an ipad. It's almost (though not quite) enough to make me go for an ipad
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I'd say best Android tablet of the year for sure. In spite of "not being an iPad killer", 4G/SD debacle, there was very little trade-off with the Xoom. Might be a little thick and heavy, but with the OTG cable, SD slot after root, direct HDMI out, 32GB base storage, and typically the quickest OS updates I don't see how this wasn't the ultimate Android tablet this year. GED. Year end promise of ICS.
Samsung had some "wow" factor with it's thin sleek device, and it probably got more consumers considering Android than the Xoom. But there's more trade-offs with no expansion, no built in HDMI, multiple dongles. I agree with the less solid feeling on that tablet too. I always give phones and tablets a good bend test and the Samsung did not pass.
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I'd say best Android tablet of the year for sure. In spite of "not being an iPad killer", 4G/SD debacle, there was very little trade-off with the Xoom. Might be a little thick and heavy, but with the OTG cable, SD slot after root, direct HDMI out, 32GB base storage, and typically the quickest OS updates I don't see how this wasn't the ultimate Android tablet this year. GED. Year end promise of ICS.
Samsung had some "wow" factor with it's thin sleek device, and it probably got more consumers considering Android than the Xoom. But there's more trade-offs with no expansion, no built in HDMI, multiple dongles. I agree with the less solid feeling on that tablet too. I always give phones and tablets a good bend test and the Samsung did not pass.
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Neither did the original ASUS Transformer! I guess they have addressed that with the new Transformer Prime.
double1 said:
I know that's just like my opinion and stuff, most tech blogswill vote for 10.1tab or ipadpon 2 but we know which tab was the greatest of 2011 without a doubt. First honeycomb, first everything.
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Agreed. Rooted, overclocked, Moray ROM and Odachi kernel. The best product I've aquired all year.
What people off, was the stories about signal issues & death grips. Or did HTC just not do as good as job as Samsung when it came to selling it?
Not sure really. I do think Samsung promoted the GS2 more than the Sensation.
Also, reviews did make out the GS2 to be slightly better than the Sensation which might have had an effect.
i believe it was because of SA+ and its speedy performance..
i mean 1gb vs 768mb...
I bought my sensation because I dont want to hold some cheap plastic device in my hands. And looks of course. Sensation has got some good curved corner/edges vs gs2 somewhat bricky/blocky looks.
And Sense 3.0 of course. This is just me though. I am sure others prefer sensation for a different reasons.
I was thinking of getting a Sensation after I sold on my GS2 because I didn't like its ergonomics, but what put me off I admit was all the talk about it having signal problems. From the aesthetic standpoint & build wise the Sensation looks better than the GS2. But I just couldn't get past my concerns about this issue & I wonder how many others were put off by it too?
Super Chimp said:
I was thinking of getting a Sensation after I sold on my GS2 because I didn't like its ergonomics, but what put me off I admit was all the talk about it having signal problems. From the aesthetic standpoint & build wise the Sensation looks better than the GS2. But I just couldn't get past my concerns about this issue & I wonder how many others were put off by it too?
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I was somewhat worried about it but I haven't had any issues yet.
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chukis13 said:
I was somewhat worried about it but I haven't had any issues yet.
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Is this an issue that may have been over-played then?
townay said:
i believe it was because of SA+ and its speedy performance..
i mean 1gb vs 768mb...
I bought my sensation because I dont want to hold some cheap plastic device in my hands. And looks of course. Sensation has got some good curved corner/edges vs gs2 somewhat bricky/blocky looks.
And Sense 3.0 of course. This is just me though. I am sure others prefer sensation for a different reasons.
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Honestly the Ram doesn't make a noticeable difference, the only thing that slows the Sensation down is Sense and not having true H/W Acceleration in Sense/GB... Purely marketing, HTC doesn't seem to make many televised adverts in the UK compared to Samsung.
I actually sold my Galaxy S2 & bought a HTC Sensation, basically i was having alot of problems with my Galaxy S2, after sending it back to Samsung twice i got fedup.
My HTC has been flawless upto now, as it doesn't suffer from the problems people on here have been having like the death grip or dust under the screen or heating up ect, but did notice mine was made pretty late on last year November to be excact.
First thing is did buy for it was an Anker 1900 mAh Battery, which now i can near 2 full days out of it between charges, the HTC battery only lasted a day if i was lucky.
I've not even bothered rooting or sticking custom roms on it neither, as it works fine for me as it is, & Sence 3.0 is miles ahead of Touchwiz.
Plus only having 768mb hasn't been a problem, everything that worked on the Galaxy S2 runs just as good on the HTC Sensation.
The only thing that let this phone down slightly is the camera, while it good it isn't to the same standard as the Galaxy S2 which was really good for a Smartphone.
Overall though im much happier with the Sensation than i was with the Galaxy S2.
Im even gonna skip a generation this time around as i don't need what on offer from the Smartphones that are due out this year.
sorry to interrupt all of you but what do you think about dhd I think it is more confortable to take in hands and more solid. I other specs sensation is better
the sg2's 1gb ram and amazing screen
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the sg2's 1gb ram and amazing screen
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Explain to me how the 1gb makes life so much better than the Sensations 768mb? ^_^
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the sg2's 1gb ram and amazing screen
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Yeah I can't see 1GB making that big a difference.
The screen has amazing colours but the resolution isn't that great IMO.
I agree with you guys , 1gb ram doesn't really make huge difference.
The only things that make SG 2 better are the screen technology, colours are more vivid and black levels are deeper (res sucks tho) , Exynos SoC performance and 16gb storage size. I mean seriously 1gb is joke on a smartphone produced in 2011.
So I think these three factors were the major points why Sensation lost out
With the help of our great devs here in xda, I can equal or surpass that sg2 anytime hehehe.... Love my sensation... I won't probably change phone until this beast becomes obsolete, not anytime soon.... Here in California its in the tv probably every other day, with sensation, I don't see anything...
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Because it's a good phone and because it was marketed well, with Samsung and the carriers pushing it hard.
People, as in people out there, not people on this forum really don't care about specs. Just look at how the iPhone is marketed.
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I agree with you guys , 1gb ram doesn't really make huge difference.
The only things that make SG 2 better are the screen technology, colours are more vivid and black levels are deeper (res sucks tho) , Exynos SoC performance and 16gb storage size. I mean seriously 1gb is joke on a smartphone produced in 2011.
So I think these three factors were the major points why Sensation lost out
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I think the screens are equal in different ways. The Sensations is probably better for browsing, reading, texting etc. while the GS2's seems more suited to multimedia. It really comes down to what is right for you.
Agree about the Exynos, seems like a very powerful processor and the storage options are better if you need them. Personally, I just stuck a 32GB SD card in and I was sorted but HTC should really have put in at least 8GB of internal memory for a phone built in 2011.
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Because it's a good phone and because it was marketed well, with Samsung and the carriers pushing it hard.
People, as in people out there, not people on this forum really don't care about specs. Just look at how the iPhone is marketed.
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Maybe they dont care about advanced specs but partition size is pretty simple and I know that people ask about that stuff.
So how much I can put into this device?
GS 2 16gb (12gb accessible) + microSD card
Sensation 4gb( about 1gb accessible ) + microSD card
See the difference?
People love big numbers
If the Sensation and GS2 came out the same time here in the states for T-Mobile, I would have probably got the GS2, but thankfully it didn't and I already had my eye on the Sensation since rumors in the beginning of the year of 2011. And also no rom support for the T-Mobile version of the GS2 so thankfully it worked out perfect for me.
I could say T-Mobile did advertise the Sensation here in the states, as well as HTC with the girl on the piano commercial, but HTC released the Amaze and then the SG2 it killed the Sensation.
I think part of it must lie in Samsung having a bigger/more long term market presence/larger following than HTC. Plus them marketing the heck out of the device before its launch.
better marketing, to tell the truth EVERYONE and their mother know about the SGSII
ive often had people asking me "what phone is that?" when they see my sensation
After reading a few reviews for the tab various websites complain about the apparent stuttering or lag when doing basic activities and all have different minor complaints. So my questions to the xda community are:
1)Would you recommend somebody buy this tablet for £200? If not what would you recommend?
2)Any complaints about the physical components of the tablet? - the screen matters to me the most tbh.
3) Do the custom roms fix any software related complaints you have of the device?
Thanks in advance!
I'm quite happy with the device, for the price. Sure you can better tablets for more and worse ones for less.
screen is fine, lag doesn't bother me too much though. I just wanted something to work out the box with no messing about as my partner wanted to use it a lot. If it were just for me I would be more tempted to mess about with roms and rooting.
For sure. I had 4 other 7 inchers before this one. I've had mine a month or so I guess and I'm happy with it. If I wasn't I would have surely returned it. I'm quick to take things back.
Plus, there's some kick ass development going on for this tablet.
For the price.. yeah, especially if you bought it at Costco. I just wish I could get a 4g version that works with T-Mobile.
Only reservations on recommendation is cause I would wait for the nexus tablet to do a comparison first.
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Probably. For the pricepoint I think it's still the best option on the market for the moment.
It'll also depend which phone you're coming from for a reference point as far as expectations. For the vast majority of phone devices out there the performance on this feels just as responsive. If you're using a Galaxy S2 device though it does feel a step down from that. Likewise the screen (while higher res) is definitely no AMOLED when it comes to wow factor. The slightly older Plus flavor of this tablet gives you that, but at an additional cost. For this price I think the screen's fine.
My biggest complaint is the memory card issue. And that really is a larger Android issue not specific to the device itself. You can put a 32GB card in. But it's essentially useless as far as most apps are concerned as most are programmed to only see the much smaller internal SD card. If you root there's ways around that, but it's frustrating that you have to do so. Most nicer Android devices now have both internal SD with an option for external SD so Android needs to start accounting for that at the system level.
Thanks for the replies, may hold out until google i/o before purchasing though.