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HTC Sensation official - HTC London Live Event

Looks like the best choice for those looking to upgrade to native Android on a dual core beast
Think I'll be holding on to my HD2 for an extra month as my upgrade is middle of May but will be released in mid June on official carrier partners so fingers crossed O2.
Read the live blog now: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/live-from-htcs-april-12th-event/
Looks like a great phone to me and my ideal replacement.

Not impressed
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.

I think the Pyramid (I'm not keen on the new sensation name) is gonna be my next phone, though my upgrade isn't till next year so maybe something shinier will be around by then.
I have to admit the spec on the Galaxy S2 is impressive but i'm not feeling the looks. It honestly looks like a poorly executed iPhone4

Moandal said:
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.
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The samsung might be good on paper but living with them is a different story,ive had an i8910.looked great on paper at the time,great looking phone but build quility,a major let down,had 3 in total and gave up and got a htc hero at the time,htcs go on for years,much better built

I'm also not keen on the current Galaxy S's screen as comes across with a blue tint, the AMOLED screen doesn't seem to do white well at all. I'm guessing it'll be similar on the S2. Yeah it's smaller, lighter and thinner but I'm not keen on plastic phones tend to break easier, my HD2 has been dropped numerous times and survived with little evidence. I'm liking the Sensation alot regardless of paper comparisons.

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I had a samsung galaxy s and sold it with in 48 hours. I've had so many htc phones and really haven't had a complaint yet. plus htc just purchased cwm, so they care about our community here. And that's the most important to me.
On a side note. Tried the atrix and only liked the web top and hdmi out features. Sold it on the same day I got it. Still rocking the hd2.

Had my G1 up until about 3 months ago when i sold it for 150 and bought my brand new hd2. I am currently available for an upgrade on Tmobile. This will be my next new phone. I hope the 1500 ma battery can hang. I'm wondering if maybe the evo ed's 1750 ma battery will fit the sensation. If that is the case this is gonna be a great phone. It will be a great phone even if it doesnt fit. Since this is clearly a flagship phone I'm sure someone will make a case with the extra battery built in. I'm pumped for this phone. Congrats to me!

if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
With that said, though I like what I am seeing, I am going to have to see what goes on with the AT& T merger. I can see them sneaking some language in there about having to roll over to AT&T if I get that particular phone. If T-mo DOES NOT merge this will be my next phone unless HTC or Motorola is coming out with a phone that sports Tegra for graphics/games.
Until then it will be me and my HD2.

The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos

My next phone. Period.
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steve austin said:
if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.

Moandal said:
What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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excuse me, flash for the camera. most of the world, with cell phones, don't live where there is daylight 24/7. utilization of facebook and other social media sites are major factors when considering a phone. to not have a flash, in 2011, is beyond asinine - irrespective of other specs and features.

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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation

t-mo recently sent me a text about upgrading to the Galaxy. Essentially, giving me an early upgrade option. I hope they do that with this phone (barring any merger shenanigans)

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation
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thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.

steve austin said:
thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.
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Exactly what I was thinking, with the whole merger that it's going to be going down in the future.

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash.
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But it's got that too, so I still don't understand.

DarkStone1337 said:
The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos
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I know that you said you probably wouldn't have time to cook anything again but I always held hope that you would return with another completely innovative idea. Sad to know that you won't even be in this section anymore. Maybe that means I'll have to by a Pyramid and keep hoping over there .

any ideas if telstra or any other att 3g compatible carrier will be getting this? if so it will be my next phone.

Sensation will be this years phone, and i ll buy it.
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[Q] Could HTC have made the Sensation better?

First off, I am an HTC fan. I am intensely brand loyal so please DO NOT begin with Hater/fanboy retorts. This is not why I created this thread. I actually have questions, that I hope some of you can answer/weigh in on objectively for me. Here goes.
I have been waiting to upgrade from my HD2 for almost a year now. The HD2 was my first HTC phone and I was hooked on its build quality and versatility. I had been really excited about the Sensation until i saw some of its specs and equipment. Of note, there are three key areas that are of vital importance to me: Ram, Storage and Battery.
I "assumed" that the Sensation, being a flagship phones, was going to blow the doors off anything in the dual core category. But after seeing these spec comparisons (http://firstain.com/index.php/2011/...roid-bionic-vs-lg-optimus-3d-thrill-4g-fight/) not only does the sensation not lead, but up against its primary competition, it trails the Galaxy and even its won Cousin, the EVO 3D, in these categories making it third. More importantly it comes with the smallest internal memory of ALL the phones being compared...
1. My first question and observation is this. If the EVO 3D has 1 gig RAM and 4gigs internal, why did they NOT do this for the Sensation? This could have been accomplished. Why was it not at least matched to make the phone better?
2. With regards to RAM an its significance see the attached videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCWYZkQRIo. (Go to the 7:35 mark). Why would a flagship phone be so limited out of the gate? This could have been addressed to make the phone better correct?
3. In terms of memory and how fast the phone will process functions, this comes from a review posted here:
"Flaws in this whole situation include the fact that while the Galaxy S II pairs its 1.2GHz dual-core with 1GB of RAM, the HTC Sensation uses just 768MB. Samsung’s device has 16GB of memory packed in, while HTC makes due with just 1GB. There’s an 8GB microSD card in there, but you can add a bunch more memory to the GSII the same way if you want. Davies notes the truth: “[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
Do you buy what the reviewer is saying as opinion or fact? If fact, then, again, why is this offering by HTC not just below the Samsung rival, but that of the EVO 3D with its 1 gig RAM and 4 gig memory? Just questions, no flames please.
Lastly, anyone can attest, that has used a 4.3 inch HTC screen, that a primary complaint is battery life. I dare say that HTC customers make up the majority of people who put the Current Widget app on the map. We are always looking for tips and tricks to squeeze more juice out of the battery. With the screen being the biggest hog, I was sure that HTC would address this with the Sensation. Again, to their credit they did, but again in comparison to the Galaxy, EVO 3d and almost every other battery in the links above, is next to last.
Techradar's HTC Sensation Battery Review:
"We've always been slightly confused by HTC phones when it comes to the battery life, as they seem to offer wildly different experiences depending on who is using them it seems.
The HTC Desire was fine for us when it came to lasting a day, but others found it would be dead by 7PM. The Desire HD was more universally panned for a poor battery, but still some chastised our verdict of it being unacceptable.
Well, it's going to happen again with the HTC Sensation, as the battery life, to us, seems woeful and not up to scratch. We're talking dead by 8PM with no push email, minimal Wi-Fi and about 30 mins of music and video at the most.
We've cycled it a few times to see if it can be improved, but the same things happens: it holds charge averagely well mostly, but then will get very warm and discharge at a rate of 10% per hour... which is a familiar scenario with the Desire HD.
We constantly kept the applications killed and the notifications to a minimum - but it seems only turning off the background synchronisation altogether helped the issue. And don't even think about hammering the camera in the middle of the day, or you'll be without a phone come the evening for sure.
That said, we're going to request another sample to test this out with, as it's probably the poorest experience we've had on an HTC device so far, so it's only fair we test to make sure it wasn't just a diff unit.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...-943466/review?artc_pg=7
Again, I am brand loyal so I will be buying another HTC phone, but to be honest, these three areas were major concerns when I bought the hd2 and still are impacting me since I still use it. I will probably hold off on the Sensation because I don't want another "hd2/hd7" situation happening again. I want the best that htc can offer and I don't think they did that "IMO."I just want to know what you think the reasons are for the lack of details to the Sensation - in particular since the EVO 3D will not have theses problems. Thanks in advance.
PS - I know no phones is "perfect". This is being asked in light of technology today and expectations of HTC's manufacturing expertise.

simply put yes...

Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.

giorgisp said:
Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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yeah, the thinking behind the features is a bit of a head scratcher to me. especially since I see the specs of the Evo 3D. maybe reaching the specs of the Atrix was not their intent with, but I the EVO clearly shows that they "could have" done a bit more for the Sensation. Its the "why not" that is thorn in my side. thanks.

It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.

rumpleforeskin said:
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
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First of all, thanks for the reply. I guess I have a hard time with this logic since I can clearly see that the EVO 3D is a step above the Sensation - and is coming to the market at the same time. Again, when I posed this question it stemmed from the fact that I have visual evidence of HTC having the capabilities to create a device that is on par or above the Galaxy.
I am just talking feature for feature. And in the three categories - that were important to me - the sensation was created below the bar. (Notice I DID NOT QUOTE BENCHMAARKS on purpose because I am willing to let the quadrant people make an app that "accurately" measures dual cores). The EVO and the Sensation will be priced relatively the same so I don't get the price factor making a difference. Hell, give me the specs of the EVO 3d and I will be the first in line on the 8th. That is all.

What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.

I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.

Maedhros said:
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.

aNYthing24 said:
I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
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“[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
According to this, more internal memory would be extremely beneficial speed wise. For the simple fact that its dubbed the "flag ship" you would think they would add internal memory as a basic premium. Guess not.

The evo 3d only has more ram cause of the actual 3d recording and pictures ability. If the evo 3d has 4 gig rom then most likely it has only 1 gig accessible to the user. Cause the system and the nand need memory space as well.
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steve austin said:
I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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Hm.. not sure how to edit polls sorry!
I agree... I dont think the Sensation is a true upgrade from the Desire HD.... For 1, the SLCD is inferior to the One on the Inspire 4G. Secondly Aluminum UniBody what??? I havent held the phone so I cant give an accurate representation however when I imagine Uni Body I immagine...Desire HD and HTC Legend! To me the Sensation looks like its not a Unibody simply because half of it comes off I cant say if any1 else will agree with me, but people who have used the phone say that it does no have the same sturdy feel as the Desire HD.
It seems to me as if HTC took what was good with the Desire HD and just doubled it. And sure that is a good formual... but when all of your competiion is doubling + improving it... doubling alone is not enough.
ATM even if u have the original Desire I would say skip on the HTC Sensation.
**Just so its clear I am a HTC Fanboy, but srsly... HTC has been doing this sort of stuff from the Windows Mobile Days... its getting really ridicules. Don't want to see this happening on Android.
Edit: For those who dont know what I mean.. .In Win Mobil days with HTC u generally brought phones every 2 Generations... simply because between generations there was not a very big difference between phones.
I feel HTC may again start doing this with Android... and it is very disappointing!

steve austin said:
However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.

aNYthing24 said:
Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Cheekie bastids!
Grrrrrrrrr!

The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.

From what I have read, it looks like the Sensation has only the qHD upgraded from DHD, I am waiting for more deep reviews for the camera.
Speaker and screen sunlight performances are the same!
If only we could get a SGS2 with Sense 3.0...

i dont think ram is a big problem on this phone ...
i often get 170 mb free ram after kill all apps with taskmanager ...
i think when we need it we can get it .... especially if we want the most free ram we can get when we want to play games and stuff...
i dont think any app uses more than that at the moment

dladz said:
Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
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Samsung Galaxy S II breaks 1m sales record in Korea
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...essor-in-1h-2011-plus-4g-galaxy-tab-20110530/
The article above clearly shows that you can make a quality product, "push" the envelop on current current technology, get great reviews, break sales records AND sell it a price higher than the Sensation. The technology is there and some company's are using it now.

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The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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How many hours can you go performing theses functions before you have to charge up again?

[Q] HTC INCREDIBLE S or HTC SENSATION

I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation

Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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I say get the sensation! It has dual core and qhd. I am also upgrading from a htc touch HD. I was trying to decide between the desire s and the sensation and I figured if I am going to upgrade I might as well go with a dual core. I t is the future. So, I have made up my mind. I am getting the sensation end of the month or next month when the sim free unbranded handsets come out.

Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.

redbullcat said:
Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.

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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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So ok you are right agree with you that it is going to be only for Sprint but for me iPhone 5 is what making me wait there are lots lots rumors it going to launch in September with ios 5 so that is going to be the benchmark for all phones Samsung galaxy s2 is not a bad phone either so it is very hard for me to choose as I do not want regrets after choosing one beast of a phone and another beast arrives around the corner ios 5 going to have notification and widgets so it could be the complete phone that awaits but can not wait too anxious to make the plunge it is going to be sensation or iPhone 5 if only it comes with larger display do not care for resolution
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO

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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php

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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some

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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.

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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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Im not sure, but perhaps more RAM could help with things moving more smoothly?
I also think the 3D is a gimmick, just saying that on paper it seems like the EVO has slightly better specs, thats all.

So I currently have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G that I really like, I have Cyanogen Mod 7.0.3 running on it, and I get great battery life. I have some dust under the glass, I called and they said that they would happily exchange it, but that they don't have the MyTouch 4G and that they will "upgrade" me to the Samsung Galaxy S2 Looking at the forums it doesn't seem like there is much development for these phones. Should I tell Them that I want a different phone? or are there custom ROMS that I can run on the Galaxy S2 I really like the 16 or so hours of battery life I currently get, plus how fast the phone is.

Regardless, you prove my point that sensationalist (no pun intended) tech blogs stress the qualitative, not the factual. These blogs are composed of a bunch of guys who get together and tell you what they "feel" about a certain device, replete with brand loyalty bias and unrepresentative 'tests', which is why it is precisely the source of the rubbish "SAMOLED >>> LCD" claims in the first place.
Also, each device can implement the same screen 'technology' differently. The HD2 has a better screen than the G2 in terms of color accuracy (and certainly more than the Galaxy S 1's blue tint, pixelation/blur/colorwarping) and even outdoor visibility. And it wasn't even a SUPER lcd. The Sensation probably has a different screen
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2 good points (compared to desire). Visible in landscape mode in polarized sunglasses, good visibility outside. The rest of it is worse than desire slcd. Not sure about incredible s, but hope info helps you.

can someone tell me if incredible s also suffers from wifi signal loss much like the sensation? im seriously thinking of getting IS instead of sensation due to death grip issue... dual core phones can wait for now. thanks.

NEED an HONEST USER opinion PLEASE ^^,

ive posted a soliciting opinion in the galaxy s II forum..of corz most of the answers was inclined to having a galaxy s2..
im torn to choosing between htc sensation and sgs2.
ive read many users opinion and complaint regarding so many issues about htc sensation..one of which is the "death grip" on wifi radio.some are the unresponsive touchscreen and the screen acquiring dust overtime...compared to sgs2 yellowish tint problem and the back side being very hot..
so i want to solicit opinions to the real htc sensation user before buying it..viewing angle is not an issue for me coz i really dont want others on my side to see what im doing with my phone specially when im texting or something..
so if any of u has a hands on with htc sensation and the sgs2..please i need ur help..im using xperia arc as of now and want to buy a phone with dual core cpu ^^,
thanks and more power

Working in a mobile shop I get to play with phones all day. When it come to death grip all smart phones have it sensation and gs2 included. I chose the sensation purely on the build quilty. The galaxy s 2 is plasticy and feels cheap but the screen is amazing. When it come to faulty units HTC has less issues than other manufactures and I see less returns on them too.
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Honestly it's really hard to pick between either.
I honestly went with the Sensation because I like HTC due to their customer service. They were friendly to me and replaced parts on my Touch HD. After heavy usage and heat it went crazy and then HTC fixed it for me even though I bought it internationally and shouldn't have gotten any warranty.
That's not to say Samsung has horrible customer service, it's just after that I very much stayed with HTC.
I could be a rare case though.

I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.

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I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.
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ok..im aware that using benchmarks, etc, sgs2 is really the best..but when im watching reviews, send UI is somewhat on the plus side for me compared to sgs2 touchwiz..im not sure coz honestly i havent held any one of the 2 phones yet..i hope soon coz im really planning to buy one..
since u own both these device, did u xperince a lag using htc sensation?and on ur recommendation, u would recommend sgs 2 basing on the overall user experience?

Benchmarks mean nothing.
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I bought Sensation, because I love good built phones (I don't want to pay 450€ for mobile phone, which is from cheap plastic...) . And because I prefer Sense to TouchWiz.
But anyway, I have a suggestion for you. Flip a coin and say that head is Sensation, and number is SGS2. And when the coin will be in air, you will know which side you hope to be. And then buy one phone, which you are hoping to fall. And not the one that really falls =)
Hope it helps

Sensation vs SGS2
I bought my sensation because:
Stylish (not similar to other devices- ex. apple suing samsung)
Sense UI (best UI, hands down)
Power consumption
Screen (Less power consumption)
Built Quality
P.S.
Death grip can only happen if intentionally done (check youtube)
SGS2 screen technology (AMOLED) "drawbacks include reduced brightness and colors that are often over-saturated. OLED screens also suffer an awkward aging effect, where the red, green and blue sub-pixels will deteriorate and lose efficiency at different rates, which causes brightness and color consistency to worsen over time. While improvements are being made, it's important to understand that this display technology is still relatively immature." ....Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/engadget-primed-all-mobile-displays-are-not-created-equal/

If you can, go to the store and try both. You will see which one you like better
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I was actually torn between getting these two, at one stage I placed an order for the SG2 - lucky paypal was being slow with giving me my money from the sale of my iPhone - Thus after a day I cancelled the order and re-ordered the Sensation purely for the qHD, aluminium unibody and build quality along with what I thought and hoped would be the faster phone!
Hopefully over the coming months the gap will close between the two phones, remember that at 1.5GHz this phone benchmarks better that the SG2 and HTC under clocked it to 1.2GHz, also in benchmarks the phone is pushing something like 25% more pixels

jlevy73 said:
I own both phones and without question IMO, the sgs2 is the best android phone available. I do like the build quality of the Sensation better but I don't care how it feels I only care about how it works.
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Joshhedge said:
I was actually torn between getting these two, at one stage I placed an order for the SG2 - lucky paypal was being slow with giving me my money from the sale of my iPhone - Thus after a day I cancelled the order and re-ordered the Sensation purely for the qHD, aluminium unibody and build quality along with what I thought and hoped would be the faster phone!
Hopefully over the coming months the gap will close between the two phones, remember that at 1.5GHz this phone benchmarks better that the SG2 and HTC under clocked it to 1.2GHz, also in benchmarks the phone is pushing something like 25% more pixels
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thanks bro..im just thinking regarding the back cover..the upper lip of the cover is like coversing the upper part of the phone right?when covering it, the upper part of the back cover that is covering the upper part is sealed well?i mean dust will not likely to go inside freely?and also to the side?that is one thing im worried about coz i dont want dust to go inside the phone for example..as what others are saying that there are dust inside the screen specifically...

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thanks bro..im just thinking regarding the back cover..the upper lip of the cover is like coversing the upper part of the phone right?when covering it, the upper part of the back cover that is covering the upper part is sealed well?i mean dust will not likely to go inside freely?and also to the side?that is one thing im worried about coz i dont want dust to go inside the phone for example..as what others are saying that there are dust inside the screen specifically...
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Dust will go inside the phone from the top and from the camera holes. I clean the inside 1's a week, but dust does not go inside the screen. the good thing about the sensation design is that you can replace the cover with a new one if you damaged it and it will be like new as long as you don't damaged the screen.
I think you should go to a store and play with both phones and decide for yourself which one you like best. Both are great phones with plus and minuses. If you like the design and plastic build of the SGS2 then buy it. I would have bought the SGS2 if it was designed like the sensation.

n1kon said:
Working in a mobile shop I get to play with phones all day. When it come to death grip all smart phones have it sensation and gs2 included. I chose the sensation purely on the build quilty. The galaxy s 2 is plasticy and feels cheap but the screen is amazing. When it come to faulty units HTC has less issues than other manufactures and I see less returns on them too.
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i also like the built quality of htc sentation compare to the sgs2..
when u were playing with both phone..particularly htc sensation, did u notice any lag when opening apps or games or something?how abut in browsing

I have tried very hard to try to recreate this "death grip" and I cannot do anything to lose signal! I wouldnt even put that into your equation right now. As far as the screen, my screen is very responsive an accurate but I do have a bit of dust under it but that is more a minor annoyance. I am a little bias as I am a sensation owner, but Im just saying, I use to be a stock android guy and hated sense, but sense 3.0 is bomb! I would take the sensation over the sgsII almost any day just because of sense 3.0. (Its that good) And then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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i also like the built quality of htc sentation compare to the sgs2..
when u were playing with both phone..particularly htc sensation, did u notice any lag when opening apps or games or something?how abut in browsing
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There is a bit of lag in stock roms but I never use a stock rom I'm all for customs
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I've have owned the sgs2 and currently have the sensation.
The only reason I changed over is cos I missed sense UI, if that isn't a problem for you then I'd say get the galaxy s2.
Galaxy s2 is faster, web browsing is faster, the camera and colours are brill, the speaker is louder and in my opinion better.
I've noticed my sensation hangs on web pages, apps don't open as quick.
Im not sure if I'm correct on saying this but to me it feels that sense 3.0 isnt supposed to run on this device even though my old desire hd handled it flawlessly.
I understand when people say that touchwiz looks very iphonish, and I agree also.
The one thing that bugged me with the galaxy s2 is defo the fact there is no notification light.
I'm gonna finish now and will probably get flamed but its just how I feel.
Like I said I come back to HTC cos I missed sense, but if ur not bothered bout UI then I'd say get galaxy s2.
Hopefully HTC bring out an update that would make my device fly.
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dazza_84 said:
I've have owned the sgs2 and currently have the sensation.
The only reason I changed over is cos I missed sense UI, if that isn't a problem for you then I'd say get the galaxy s2.
Galaxy s2 is faster, web browsing is faster, the camera and colours are brill, the speaker is louder and in my opinion better.
I've noticed my sensation hangs on web pages, apps don't open as quick.
Im not sure if I'm correct on saying this but to me it feels that sense 3.0 isnt supposed to run on this device even though my old desire hd handled it flawlessly.
I understand when people say that touchwiz looks very iphonish, and I agree also.
The one thing that bugged me with the galaxy s2 is defo the fact there is no notification light.
I'm gonna finish now and will probably get flamed but its just how I feel.
Like I said I come back to HTC cos I missed sense, but if ur not bothered bout UI then I'd say get galaxy s2.
Hopefully HTC bring out an update that would make my device fly.
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No Flaming here just manlove I totally agree with you. I switched from touch HD to sensation. I would have bought SGS2 if it was designed differently. I think it is a great phone except I just can't get over the design, it is ugly

I'm going to speak primarily of the Sensation because I have no experience with the SGS2:
Pros:
Build quality (although I honestly don't get why people think this is such a big deal when a lot of people put covers on their phone)
UI (I need to stress that VISUALLY I like Sense 3.0, you'll see what I mean later)
qHD resolution
Design (basically same category as build quality)
Web browsing (qHD makes it really nice, and I've also read that the SGS2 doesn't automatically rewrap text when you zoom in/out like the Sensation does)
Cons:
Screen tech (I will never buy a LCD phone again; LCD is absolutely worthless in direct sunlight and bright areas and I can't see my phone's screen in said situations; and plus as SAMOLED+ technology matures they'll take care of problems like the yellowish tint)
Speaker (there is no way for me to put this other than to say the Sensation's speaker is absolutely ****ty; my brother's old MyTouch 4G has a WAY louder speaker and it's an older phone)
Processor (this is sort of a time-related thing, because in a technical sense the Sensation's chip actually has some advantages on paper like asynchronous cores; the problem is is that Gingerbread apparently doesn't have adequate dual-core support and I don't believe an asynchronous dual-core phone will do as well as a synchronous dual-core phone until ICS, but even then we'll have to see what does better)
UI (while I also put UI in the Pros section for its looks, I have to say that Sense 3.0 is laggy as **** on the Sensation and is not optimized; I'm saying this while I'm on one of the faster custom ROMs, which still is laggy; I don't like the looks of Touchwiz like many on here, but I would kill for its smoothness)
Camera (not that it's bad, it's quite good, but reviews are unanimous that the SGS2 camera is even better)
Internal memory (1 GB vs. 16 GB; need I say more?)
RAM (768 MB vs. 1 GB; again, need I say more?)
Deathgrip (I know people will say that all phones experience deathgrip issues, but I don't think most have it as bad as the Sensation does)
Battery (this is minor, because the battery life is pretty decent, but most top-line phones are coming out with upwards of 1700 mAh batteries these days)
That sums up my views, I may be missing a few points here and there. The only things I like about my Sensation are the design and build quality, the UI, and the qHD resolution. Otherwise, I honestly think that the Sensation was completely out-spec'd even at the time it came out.

I have Sensation for about three months now! I came from a HD2 ( a special case ) and i was expecting the most powerful smartphone in the world. At first i was disappointed (before S-off ). The lag that everyone is talking about WAS there! The phone wasn't really laggy but it was not as i expected. The apps were launching really fast but i knew it could get much better. The gs2 was at the time a lot faster. The normal user couldn't tell the difference and every day experience was the same if not better ( i prefer sense ui too ). I'm writing in the past tense because after the S-off and with a custom rom (IC 2.3.5) my Sensation is blazing fast ( almost as i want it to be ). Anyway, you should go and try both of them. GS2 is a great phone and if you choose to buy it you won't regret it. It's a matter of personal preference! I prefer HTC's quality, looks, qHD screen, customer service and Sense UI. You may prefer the Super Amoled Plus, more built in memory and RAM. It's your choice .

I love my Sensation. Bought 5 of them for the family. Haven't had any issues. Especially now that updates are out and bugs are getting fixed (not to mention custom roms), the Sensation is a super sweet phone.

One S: totally a downgrade from XE! No longer an option..

Yes, it's fat. There, I said it, the Sensation XE is fat and it's heavy. The One S wins hands down there. I have small hands and the One S was easier to hold, more comfortable and it felt more "right"...
But apart from taking up pocket space, what do you actually use the most on a smartphone? It's a trick question.....it's the screen.
I can't understand WHY HTC put a pentile screen on the One S. Compare the screens and the One S is an obvious downgrade from the XE. I didn't think I would mind as much, but when trying out the phone it really REALLY annoyed me. Holding them up side by side, the XE wins hands down. It just looks better.
If we look away from the possibility that it's a supply issue, that there is a lack of better screens, this is yet again clearly a sign of HTC's bad decisions of late.
The only reason I can see for using the pentile screen on the One S, is to make it obvious for potential buyers in-store that the One X is the superior phone. Spec wise, it is across the board, we all know that. But in the shop and in daily use, the difference isn't that noticable. Coming from an iPhone, you won't notice that the One S has lower specs that the X in daily use. But a consumer holding up the S and X next to each other, they will clearly see that the X is better. I think, if the S had the same display as, most MOST (but not all) would choose the S because of the size and they wouldn't care as much about the sprec. So HTC but an inferior screen in so they wouldn't compete against themselves.
The X is too big for my hands, the S is the mainstream perfect size. For now, I'm sticking with the XE and next time, I might just get a Samsung. It's the only way I can show HTC, by how I use my money. Ranting here sure won't help hehe.
HTC need a reality check, like STUCK plummeting, important people getting fired, good staff going to Samsung.

Agreed. I owned a One S for a period of two days. Totally disappointed with the Screen, battery and functionality.
And I also agree, my XE wins hands down, and I was glad to be using it afterwards.
I have a friend who works in "A big Phone Retailer" who has never seen so many returns with the whole range.
HTC needs to change their strategy, because it's losing customers with the "ONE" range. I am one of them.
Regards to the OP.

I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.

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I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
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Agreed, I dont see how any one can make use of such a big device on the daily basis.

my father is getting one in the mail on monday, i cant wait to put it against my sensation

Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.

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Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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Umm... Hardly...
It is an mid-upper range device.
It costs around 400 quid new.

So much rationalization in these forums.
Sensation vs SII, oh the Sensation feels faster than the SII (even though benchmarks and neutral users/reviewers all agree that the SII is a faster device) and the screen of the SII may be better than the Sensation but who cares, etc.
Now you have the One S, which is way faster than the Sensation with a worse screen, most people are still rationalizing about how the Sensation is a much superior device.
If that is the case, then the SII would have been the obvious choice from the beginning if all you want is a good display.

Not really sure what your point is?

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Not really sure what your point is?
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Stop using the screen as an argument for rationalizing about a device you own or to discredit a phone that's markedly faster.
The same people that have been hating on the SII did not care about the screen quality even though the device is faster.
Now you have a new device that has a worse screen that's way faster than the Sensation but the same people that did not care for the display of a device are hating on it BECAUSE of its screen.
Double standards much?

Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.

I wouldn't say it's a downgrade... but there's no compelling reason to upgrade.
While the chipset, camera, and dimensions are better - the screen is iffy (AMOLED but pentile), limited to 16 GB, and no real option (yet) to install a larger battery.
If they supported TMO AWS, I would probably be looking at the Xperia S. Slightly smaller than the Sensation with a 720p screen, more ram, better camera, etc. With the latest rumors that the GSIII has a 4.8" screen... I'm not sure I really want anything like that.

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Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.

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No, the One V is the 'budget' one of the range.

My sensation(running aokp) is an excellent phone and development is outstanding but the sense OS really sucks so I wont be buying a One S. Might try a samsung handset but after rooting and flashing 3 samsungs for friends and family huge PTA by the way I might have to jump ship altogether.

I don't get the point of this rant. Tech-wise, One S is far superior to the One X in my opinion. I mean, apart from the screen, the One X has very little going for it. Tegra3 is a massive disappointment (just like Tegra2 was), and pales in comparison to Snapdragon 4 when it comes to the things that matter for a phone: Speed and battery life.
Yes, One S runs at a lower resolution, so it is close to 'cheating' since we are not comparing like-to-like. One S would probably be a much inferior experience to One X, if it was to run at the same (higher) resolution.
But we are comparing consumer experiences here, and that's where One S absolutely beats One X hands down. It feels faster (even on stock), and its battery life is one of the best I have seen on a phone. It regularly stays alive for over 3-4 days on a single charge, with data and sync on.
Plus, although Pentile, the Super AMOLED is still a work of beauty, delivering incredible colours and blacks. The only thing One X (and XE) have going for them is that S-LCD offers superior pixel density and does not have jagged-lines.
But One S is smaller, lighter, and clearly the better device.

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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.

lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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agreed!
I think I see it 99% every time a new awsm phone comes out

lianw said:
Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
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You have been on a discussion board before....right? :what:
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lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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You're very unique on forums, and I can relate, because we think a lot alike. No matter what comes out, people will always find a way to argue that the Sensation is the better device. It's not unique behavior to the Sensation, nor is it unique to phones (I see the same behavior on car forums I'm on). Saying that the One S is undeniably worse is unreasonable. What would make sense is to say that you don't feel that the One S is enough of an improvement to justify jumping for it. For me, I really care about the display on a phone, and I've read enough bad things about the One S and its bad display to avoid it. I don't really get the rationalization behavior, though. It only took me 3 weeks after getting my Sensation way back when to wish I had waited to get the GS2 instead. I was also very vocal on this forum about how I thought the Sensation was nice for my first Android, but how I was also underwhelmed by it (especially the performance and screen) and I posted a lot in the early Sensation vs. GS2 threads about how I as a Sensation owner had to cede that the GS2 was the better overall device.
Back a little bit on topic, I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the trend we're seeing with Android devices. I really want the One X's screen, but the overall size of the One X is too big for me. The One S has the form factor I want, but not the screen. The GS3 is receiving major hype right now, but we can be fairly confident that it too will have a large 4.6"+ display and consequently large dimensions, so I don't think I can get the GS3 unless they manage to make the screen nearly edge to edge. Will we ever see 4.3" display devices that also get top of the line specs again?