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I cannot go a full day without charging this thing twice. Even if i dont turn on wifi, gps, or BT.
Lastnight i had my phone charged to 100% by 12am when i went to sleep. By 7am when i woke up my phone was at 30% battery. The phone was unplugged and in standby the whole time. I didnt not get any incomming calls or sms. I only had the phone radio on, and no others except that i have it set to check for web email every 2 hours. I get great service in my house so i dont get it.
This is my 3rd battery and my second touch pro, and they were all this bad. How can this be? the f***ing thing uses 10% of its battery per hour in standby?
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It could be a program running in the background that drains it. If you really want to know for sure, just master reset your phone and see if it drains.
YL Groper said:
I cannot go a full day without charging this thing twice. Even if i dont turn on wifi, gps, or BT.
Lastnight i had my phone charged to 100% by 12am when i went to sleep. By 7am when i woke up my phone was at 30% battery. The phone was unplugged and in standby the whole time. I didnt not get any incomming calls or sms. I only had the phone radio on, and no others except that i have it set to check for web email every 2 hours. I get great service in my house so i dont get it.
This is my 3rd battery and my second touch pro, and they were all this bad. How can this be? the f***ing thing uses 10% of its battery per hour in standby?
This is a problem
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hello, have you recently flashed your phone? have you tried a different radios, radios make a huge difference. is your data connection staying on all the time?
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let the phone drain down completely and turn off before you plug it in. My Fuze was draining very fast when I got it. So I let it run down until it powered off.
I went 3 more days with my phone running on 4% battery. I think it was 96 hours or something. I took it off the charger at 8pm Wednesday and it died Friday around 9pm.
Since it has been pretty good. I noticed that when i am at work, with no signal... it'll eat my battery. My Samsung Blackjack and Epix didn't do this.
I'm using the stock radio btw
my stock battery was actually pretty good. it would easily go 24 hours with some texting, a call and internet browsing. i usually always have 3g off until i really need it. now i have the seidio 1500 mah battery and its even better.
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new rom
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Thanks for all the replys...
Im alittle confused by what you are saying about "new radios". How can you try new radios? Not a physical radio, right? is it a different driver for your wifi or something? kind of lost.
Also, when I first got the phone i stretched and set the memory in the battery. I charged completely without turning it on at first>then used the phone until it died completely (it wouldnt even turn on anymore)>then complete charge>complete death>complete charge>complete death.....So i did that three times. I think the battery is good.
How exactly do i turn off 3g? would that be the "data connection" in comm manager? I installed this comm edit that shows 10 icons in comm manager; there is a 3g switch but it always shows as off and when i click it it does nothing. Now the data connection seems to shut on an off at different times. Im assuming that is due to the 2 hour send and recieve or any mms that i get. How do i turn 3g on only when i want it? I do have an "EV" (Evdo) icon in my system bar even when the data is off.
What data goes through 3g? mms? browser (of course), send and recieve, Weather?
If I have my weather set to auto update, does it only do it when i go to my wheater tab? it seems that way. What about the web mail send and recieve, once its done does it shut the data back off?
Thanks for all the help, i hope im providing enough info.
I’m sorry for coming off as such a noob, it’s embarrassing; Mostly because im a friggen MCP who works in desktop support and has configured countless WM devices for exchange access.
I think my issue is that this is my first personal windows mobile device.
Thanks for humoring my noobisms.
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Im alittle confused by what you are saying about "new radios". How can you try new radios? Not a physical radio, right? is it a different driver for your wifi or something? kind of lost.
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A ROM package you flash onto your phone sometimes doesnt always only consist of an OS update (eg.: ROM) but sometimes comes with a "bios" update too, an update for the Radio-ROM (eg.: radio) which handles your phones connectivity deep down inside it.
How exactly do i turn off 3g? would that be the "data connection" in comm manager?
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3G means UMTS which is the fastest standard cellular network based data connection widely available today. Its the third generation of cellular data connectivity evolutions, hence 3G. The "data connection" button in your comm manager establishes or disconnects a data connection the device has, independent of what technology it uses, eg. 2G or 3G.
I installed this comm edit that shows 10 icons in comm manager; there is a 3g switch but it always shows as off and when i click it it does nothing.
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You can edit the standard 6 button manager to show a 3G icon, several of the so called tweaking tools can do that.
Why it doesnt work on your specificly edited manager, I dont and cant know.
Now the data connection seems to shut on an off at different times. Im assuming that is due to the 2 hour send and recieve or any mms that i get. How do i turn 3g on only when i want it? I do have an "EV" (Evdo) icon in my system bar even when the data is off.
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A "big" EV icon next to the signal bar means thats the technology available in your area right now and which your phone is using. So an EV plus two bars means mediocre EVDO connectivity possible. If you have a small EV above the signal bar, this means a data connection is open and active using EVDO. There is also G for GPRS, E for EDGE, 3G for UMTS, H for HSDPA and obviously EV for EVDO.
What data goes through 3g? mms? browser (of course), send and recieve, Weather?
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Think of it that way: what data goes through my network cable at work? Well, all data trying to reach the intranet, extranet or internet. So similarily all data at that moment goes over your currently open connection whatever program is its origin.
once its done does it shut the data back off?
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After a horrendeously amount of time Windows Mobile caps the connection, I think. But you can for example use the Schaps Advanced Config Tools to set a much lower timer, mine for example is set to 3 minutes so an idle connection gets stopped after 3 minutes.
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I got my Raphael two days ago, I switched from an XPERIA X1 because the build quality got annoying. I'm quite shocked, the Touch Pro performs much worse than the X1 does or did. I'm aware of the battery size discrepancy, this is more some kind of a general statement as in "fuch the TP battery really DOES suck that much"...
I've noticed that turning the bluetooth off gives me a huge boost in battery life.
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my battery was really bad ,until yesterday when i installed an app i shouldnt have made my touch pro go nuts so i had no more options but to do a hard reset,ive noticed a huge differance,i also do my email manually now and i unchecked allow incomming beams ive read that doing makes a diff i charged my phone last night at 10pm took it of charge it was 100% at time i hsvent charge it since its 9am now n ive been on web for 3 hrs now n still have 40% lol cant belive it this is on stock rom
Where can you buy 1500 mAh.. I couldn't find one on ebay either?
How bad does the 2500 +mAh looks like? Does anyone have a photo to show the working HTC Touch pro?
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=171884 battery bank, external battery
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=172018 1800MAh battery
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=169457 1340MAh battery (the one which comes with the device)
Ok so this has happened every night I have had the Captivate (3 nights), I go to bed at night and in the morning where my signal bar should be I have a circle with a slash through it (no network). When I go to bed I will have like 2-4 bars of service but something must happen and I lose all network functionality. I have to restart the phone which solves the problem but is a serious pain. This also happens sometimes randomly throughout the day.
Any ideas if this is a common problem with all Captivates or if it is a hardware or software issue?
I like this phone and if I can get it to work properly I love it more than my iphone but not getting service is a buzz kill and I will return it. (Bought it unsubsidized for $500 because I couldn't deal with my iphone anymore)
Note: I live in Tampa which generally has good AT&T service and have had no other problems with other phones
Did you turn off the phone and remove the sim card for a few minutes?? According to an at&t rep doing that solves network issues.
The problem I had today was that the phone showed full bars, but I couldn't send a text or make calls. I took the reps advice and it's fine for now.
Well I will give that a try tonight and see how it goes and post back tomorrow with my results. I really love everything. Else about this phone and would be a shame of I had to get rid of it because of silly antenna issues. Thanks for the advice!
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Are you sure you don't have any power saving apps on that are turning off the radio after a few hours? Did it happen when it was stock with no programs installed? Might try and flash it back to stock and see if that solves the problem.
Otherwise you could always walk into an AT&T store and ask for another one and see if it still happens.
Well last night it did the same thing after removing the sim for about 10 minutes before bed.
And as far as knowing if it did this before I rooted it.....well...I owned the phone for maybe 10 minutes after unboxing it before I rooted it. So I have no idea if it is because it is rooted. I don't have any apps on it for power saving purposes and nothing should be killing the radio. Problem is that it isn't like airport mode is on...its completely out of service and the only way to get service back is to reboot. Turning the radios on and then off again while the phone is on won't work...it must be a reboot.
I will probably end up returning it and trying one more Captivate before I look else where for a new phone. But after seeing this screen it would be hard to look at any other phone twice.
iphone4 would be a good screen alternative
ur antenna issue is unique and a new phone will probably fix it. id get that sim replaced too.
The new iPhone would be ok...but I can't go back to an iPhone. I have had 4 of them (2 first gens) and I am so bored of them. And I know people rave about the iPhones new screen but side by side with this phone I would take the extra screen real estate anyway.
And I did consider getting a new sim card too. I think I will wait until towards the end of my 30 day return policy and trade in for a new one.
Thanks for all the help guys
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Ok so this has happened every night I have had the Captivate (3 nights), I go to bed at night and in the morning where my signal bar should be I have a circle with a slash through it (no network). When I go to bed I will have like 2-4 bars of service but something must happen and I lose all network functionality. I have to restart the phone which solves the problem but is a serious pain. This also happens sometimes randomly throughout the day.
Any ideas if this is a common problem with all Captivates or if it is a hardware or software issue?
I like this phone and if I can get it to work properly I love it more than my iphone but not getting service is a buzz kill and I will return it. (Bought it unsubsidized for $500 because I couldn't deal with my iphone anymore)
Note: I live in Tampa which generally has good AT&T service and have had no other problems with other phones
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I've had mine since July 18th and had never have this happen...till this morning. When I pulled it off charger I noticed the signal meter what a circle with a slash. Well, I dont get great reception in my apartment so it didnt phase me until I was on my way to work and still didnt have a signal. So, I turned it off and back on and then it had a signal. So I dont know what was up with that. I'll keep an eye on it tomorrow to see if its something thats going to happen regularly.
Hmmm...so I'm not the only one having this problem. Yeah I don't get superb service in my apartment but I have also never really had any other network problems with other phones.
Wonder if there is something that kills the network if you don't have a decent signal for a certain period of time. I just wish it wasn't everyday. On the brightside nobody will wake me up with emails or texts or calls.
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I find that if I'm in a fringe 4G area, that my phone will often not connect to either 4G or 3G. At home my 4G signal is strong and I always connect to 4G 100% of the time. At work, when i'm in the middle of the building I often get no 3G or 4g signal. From my office I always got 3G with my D1. With my Charge about half of the time i get no signal unless I reboot. It seems like the phone gets confused if there is a weak 4G and a decent 3G. How is the Charge in a 3G only area?
I saw the EE4 release notes and it looked like it was meant to solve this problem. However, I'm seeing the same behavior. What is everyone else's experience.?
I should also add I'm using Juice Defender. I think I"m going to try disabling it to make sure that isn't causing a problem.
I'm going to guess that it could be JuiceDefender causing the problem, disabling data until a more reliable signal comes about. I have had times where I've lost 3G service, or 4G service, but it comes back on its own after a few seconds. I'm guessing that despite the improvement, there are still some bugs, which is to be expected with the new technology. I do notice that I loose my data connection much less often than before, and the improvement in battery life is worth any minor issues for me.
Get rid of Juice Defender, it will cause you many more problems than its worth. All it really does is enable/disable data when it doesn't think you need it to save battery, but you're much better off doing that yourself with the power widgets in the notification bar. I spoke with a VZW network engineer after confusing the various tech support reps because I actually have some idea of how their network operates (go figure), and he confirmed that something like that is not a great idea, especially on the new LTE network. It doesn't save much battery, since its always forcing data to re-sync when it thinks it should even when I don't need it, and sometimes turns it off when I do want it. Also, it seems to take much longer for it to sync or switch 3g/4g when JuiceDefender is running.
I completely uninstalled it, and when I pull my phone out, if I plan on using the internet, I turn on mobile data. If I'm putting it away for awhile, using media/apps/games on the phone that don't require data for some time, or planning on making a long phone call, I'll turn it off. It syncs up right away when I need it, so that works very well for me. In fact, if you keep your apps from auto-synching, it will idle most of the time its not being used anyway, meaning its not using much power anyway.
Just like auto task killers, juice defender seems to be one of those things that's an attempt to save battery power and improve performance, but is typically misunderstood and used improperly, actually hurting the things you want to improve. It seems that proper understanding of how Android works, and learning how to efficiently manage it yourself works better.
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Get rid of Juice Defender, it will cause you many more problems than its worth.
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You guys rock. I've uninstalled juice defender and have had zero issues for the last 3 hours. Still too soon to tell, but it looks promising.
I'm having issues with this the last few days. I've never had Juice Defender.
Especially tethering as the wife and I were driving around looking at houses. She likes to pull them up on the laptop while doing so. Before the EE4 update everything worked great, now it cut out enough to make it too aggravating to continue to use. And each time it cut out the phone had lost 4g and I had to toggle LTE in the network settings to get it to come back.
Anyone else had similar issues? I thought EE4 was supposed to fix these, not cause more!?
Well, my 4G has improved slightly since EE4.
I actually occasionally get 4 bars of 4G in my office at work, where I never had connection to 4G in the past. It still seems a little dicey with random hand-offs between 3G and 4G, though.
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Well, my 4G has improved slightly since EE4.
I actually occasionally get 4 bars of 4G in my office at work, where I never had connection to 4G in the past. It still seems a little dicey with random hand-offs between 3G and 4G, though.
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Yeah I'd agree with that, better 4G when I have it, but very bad handoffs.
Update, not a single outage since removing Juice defender.
I just tried to make the switch from at&t to t-mobile. I had my sensation for about a week, and just returned it this morning.
Reasons I loved the sensation.
Decent battery life *(not as great as everyone made me expect.
Awesome Camera, especially outside- I really could see myself using this phone as a replacement for a cheap point and shoot.
The hardware was pretty much all around fantastic. Great feel in hand. A ton thinner than the evo 3d, especially around the edges. This phone has such a nice shape that it almost gets lost in my pocket. I actually found myself grabbing my pocket to make sure it hadn't fallen out.
The wifi-calling was a great value add.
The screen was fantastic. My next phone will have to have a qhd or better display (no sgsII for me). Say what you want about contrast ratios, but I rarely use my phone outside. Having the extra pixels however was absolutely awesome for browsing the web. The extra pixels also made living without a hardware keyboard a little bit easier to bare *(when in portrait mode).
The unlock page that came with sense 3.0. Other than that sense just seemed to get in my way.
FM radio. I'm the guy who wants to watch and listen to the tv-s at the gym.
Why I just couldn't risk spending 2 years with it.
I had no reception at my house or work on t-mo. This is really the biggest reason why I had to return my phone.
Because of the above the cell radio was draining the battery attempting to connect to the networks. I really don't want to spend two years having to remember to turn off the cell radio every time I get home.
T-mobile support was an exercise in frustration to deal with.
Will I still even get 3g/4g service in 2 years? This is debatable. AT&T will have to repurpose some of T-mo's spectrum from somewhere.
The built-in picasa upload is broken *(I use this all the time).
No way to jump to the galery app when in camera mode. This seems like a really obvious omission.
The speakephone volume over wifi calling really shouldn't be considered a speakerphone at all. I couldn't test speakerphone over t-mo because I never had reception when I wanted to make a call.
There was no setting to auto disable the cell radio when connected over wi-fi and wi-fi calling was enabled. I admit this is a nit-pick, but it really would have been nice.
I counted at least 3 backup apps all of which were trying to send my contacts to different parts of the world. Why do I need to backup any of my contacts? For me everything is in google, that's why I want an android phone. The killer part about this is that these apps will suck your battery dry.
Currently no way to remove all the crap-ware that t-mo stuffs it's phones with. There is a lot of it. I bet that is why there is so much discussion about the a performance problem between the sensation and the evo 3d screen rotate speed.
No NFC. Not really a deal-breaker, but it is disappointing.
So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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Why I just could risk spending 2 years with it.
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I think you accidentally a conjunction in there
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I think you accidentally a conjunction in there
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Lulz irony abounds, he missed a conjunction and you omitted a word from your sentence, pointing out his omitted conjunction @[email protected]
npoc said:
I just tried to make the switch from at&t to t-mobile. I had my sensation for about a week, and just returned it this morning.
Reasons I loved the sensation.
Decent battery life *(not as great as everyone made me expect.
Awesome Camera, especially outside- I really could see myself using this phone as a replacement for a cheap point and shoot.
The hardware was pretty much all around fantastic. Great feel in hand. A ton thinner than the evo 3d, especially around the edges. This phone has such a nice shape that it almost gets lost in my pocket. I actually found myself grabbing my pocket to make sure it hadn't fallen out.
The wifi-calling was a great value add.
The screen was fantastic. My next phone will have to have a qhd or better display (no sgsII for me). Say what you want about contrast ratios, but I rarely use my phone outside. Having the extra pixels however was absolutely awesome for browsing the web. The extra pixels also made living without a hardware keyboard a little bit easier to bare *(when in portrait mode).
The unlock page that came with sense 3.0. Other than that sense just seemed to get in my way.
FM radio. I'm the guy who wants to watch and listen to the tv-s at the gym.
Why I just could risk spending 2 years with it.
I had no reception at my house or work on t-mo. This is really the biggest reason why I had to return my phone.
Because of the above the cell radio was draining the battery attempting to connect to the networks. I really don't want to spend two years having to remember to turn off the cell radio every time I get home.
T-mobile support was an exercise in frustration to deal with.
Will I still even get 3g/4g service in 2 years? This is debatable. AT&T will have to repurpose some of T-mo's spectrum from somewhere.
The built-in picasa upload is broken *(I use this all the time).
No way to jump to the galery app when in camera mode. This seems like a really obvious omission.
The speakephone volume over wifi calling really shouldn't be considered a speakerphone at all. I couldn't test speakerphone over t-mo because I never had reception when I wanted to make a call.
There was no setting to auto disable the cell radio when connected over wi-fi and wi-fi calling was enabled. I admit this is a nit-pick, but it really would have been nice.
I counted at least 3 backup apps all of which were trying to send my contacts to different parts of the world. Why do I need to backup any of my contacts? For me everything is in google, that's why I want an android phone. The killer part about this is that these apps will suck your battery dry.
Currently no way to remove all the crap-ware that t-mo stuffs it's phones with. There is a lot of it. I bet that is why there is so much discussion about the a performance problem between the sensation and the evo 3d screen rotate speed.
No NFC. Not really a deal-breaker, but it is disappointing.
So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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- Also to the OP: A bunch of these problems are fixable with root, also there is a way to go to the gallery from the stock camera app... and even if there wasn't why wouldn't you just DL a camera app from market that would allow you to do what you wanted?
- Turn off the other contacts backup services... I did
- Why wouldn't you have 4g in 2 years? 4G will actually be much faster in two years and will be approaching "actual" 4G speeds.
- You couldnt do a one click disable of the cell radio while on wifi and wifi calling was enabled because that happens automatically.
- Speakerphone was too low on wifi calling? Wow, that's probably fixable as well.
- And if you have a smart phone YOU will need to learn how to manage its battery life. The Sensation actually does have preeettty good battery life for a smartphone.
Cheers, good luck on ATT we'll all probably be there next year anyway.
Thats def not a good experience; as you say it sounds mostly coverage related which is the case for most carriers. Tmo has always been good to me where ive lived (4g here where i work and around my home).
Every phone/network won't work for everyone. Although the NFC is something that initially gave me pause, but I really don't see that being something i won't be able to live without in just 2 years; it's barely rolled out; not to mention text transactions and CC soda machines are also on the rise.
I am personally a little annoyed with how sense handles (or doesn't) the picasa gallery (Why can't i make a slide show with my picasa stuff).
Enjoy your G1 even with cyanogen; not sure I could go back THAT far even if I had crappy service
I am missing my MIUI though, still running my N1 with MIUI latest and it's been getting amazingly robust the past few updates (5 way unlock specifically).
I believe the Cell Radios turn off when you activate WiFi calling. And I have a way to get to the gallery from my camera app...
A G1 though?! I'd rather take all the cons you listed than go all the way back to that poor thing, on EDGE no less. G1 was awesome back in the day, but now you're just torturing the poor thing.
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So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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Unless you buy an unlocked manufacturer phone from overseas your stuck with carrier bloatware and hardware/software changes. That or one of the Nexus series. And your only choice for NFC right now is Nexus. So I think we've found your next phone.
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I believe the Cell Radios turn off when you activate WiFi calling. And I have a way to get to the gallery from my camera app...
A G1 though?! I'd rather take all the cons you listed than go all the way back to that poor thing, on EDGE no less. G1 was awesome back in the day, but now you're just torturing the poor thing.
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I'm pretty sure i had to manually disable the cell radios if I wanted them off when on wi-fi. It did however route my calls over wi-fi automatically. It did not automatically turn off my cell radio when wi-fi calling was enabled. When I was at work or at home, the power graph was pretty ugly with the cell radios on.
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Lulz irony abounds, he missed a conjunction and you omitted a word from your sentence, pointing out his omitted conjunction @[email protected]
- Also to the OP: A bunch of these problems are fixable with root, also there is a way to go to the gallery from the stock camera app... and even if there wasn't why wouldn't you just DL a camera app from market that would allow you to do what you wanted?
- Turn off the other contacts backup services... I did
- Why wouldn't you have 4g in 2 years? 4G will actually be much faster in two years and will be approaching "actual" 4G speeds.
- You couldnt do a one click disable of the cell radio while on wifi and wifi calling was enabled because that happens automatically.
- Speakerphone was too low on wifi calling? Wow, that's probably fixable as well.
- And if you have a smart phone YOU will need to learn how to manage its battery life. The Sensation actually does have preeettty good battery life for a smartphone.
Cheers, good luck on ATT we'll all probably be there next year anyway.
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As I said the big reason I had to return it was poor reception.
Being a t-mo customer you are not guaranteed anything over the next 2 years. AT&T is trying to acquire t-mo to repurpose some of t-mo's spectrum. What part of their owned spectrum is anyone's guess
I agree that all the firmware issues are fixable, but they are still annoyances that I shouldn't have to deal with. I don't know how long it will take for HTC to unlock the sensation's bootloader or for someone to get root on the phone, but I had 14 days to make a decision on whether I wanted to be stuck with a 2 year contract. The speakerphone is a firmware deal-breaker for me atm, as I do have to use my phone for conference calls.
As for me my current plan is to find a recent boot-loader unlocked AT&T *cough* 4g compatible phone on craigslist, and then sign a contract on ATT or VZ when the right phone comes up.
in settings, there is an option to what you want it to do...cell preferred, wi-fi preferred, or wifi only
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in settings, there is an option to what you want it to do...cell preferred, wi-fi preferred, or wifi only
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You completely missed the point. Wi-fi was preferred, but it leaves the cell radio on which drains battery. Better luck next time.
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I'm pretty sure i had to manually disable the cell radios if I wanted them off when on wi-fi. It did however route my calls over wi-fi automatically. It did not automatically turn off my cell radio when wi-fi calling was enabled. When I was at work or at home, the power graph was pretty ugly with the cell radios on.
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I get pretty good service even though I live in a basement (I was barely getting any bars on Sprint and Verizon before that). However, I still use WiFi calling to maximize my battery life (and it's working), and I use a Tasker profile to automate turning on wifi, turning off cell radio when it detect the cell towers by my house and my wifi ssid.
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I get pretty good service even though I live in a basement (I was barely getting any bars on Sprint and Verizon before that). However, I still use WiFi calling to maximize my battery life (and it's working), and I use a Tasker profile to automate turning on wifi, turning off cell radio when it detect the cell towers by my house and my wifi ssid.
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Good suggestion, I will have to use that if I ever go back to T-Mo. Still, T-Mo should have made that a setting in their app.
I am about to return mine after 4 days of use. I love the phone and will be exchanging it for a new one.
Mine has started randomly making calls while sitting on my desk charging, The unlock ring started bouncing around the screen when I unlocked it and I had to turn off phone to get it to stop, it can charge all night long and still only show 75%, and I am dropping calls. Not what I want from a $600 device. I hope my second one is up to par. I have never had to exchange a phone with Tmobile before for these reasons.
A few notes.
If you used WiFi calling you wouldn't have to (nor CAN you) turn off the radio. It doesn't drain the battery in WiFi calling mode, you know nothing about how it works.
I upload to Picasa no problem.
Speakerphone volume is always low, the speakerphone sucks.
AT&T support and/or customer service is horrible. If you are speaking with a regular T-Mobile rep (one that does NOT introduce themselves as Android or PDA support) for phone issues you are speaking to the WRONG representative.
I couldn't ever see my self going back to a G1, may as well get out the bag phone again
I'm coming from Sprint and switched to T-Mobile primarily because of WiFi-Calling, and secondly because of the HTC Sensation. Not a single carrier has signal inside my apartment unit. Sprint gave me an Airave which works well for about a year, but recently started giving me problem where I cannot hear the caller, but the caller can hear me most of the time. With T-Mobile's WiFi-Calling, it works all the time. The sound quality may not be the greatest, but acceptable enough that I can have a conversation using it over an hour. On a full charge, 0 bar signal, using WiFi-Calling for almost half an hour, I did not see a drop on my battery charge, not even 1%, last time I checked.
I'm sad to leave Sprint, but T-Mo's WiFi-Calling is unbeatable, specially when travelling overseas.
Hey guys,
Long time lurker, first time poster here
Forgive me if this is a duplicate post, I tried searching and couldn't find anything exactly what I'm talking about.
Most days, my HOXL is fine. I'm a pretty light user so sometimes I can get through two days without charging it. There's the odd time though (maybe a few times a month) that my phone will get really hot and the battery life just tanks. The phone gets extremely slow and it'll be dead in an hour or so if I don't reboot it. I've just gotten used to rebooting it as soon as I feel it getting really hot in my pocket. :silly: I haven't been able to track it down to anything in particular except that it seems to be wifi-related. Whenever it's in that state, I find my wifi is mysteriously disconnected and I'm not able to get it started. I tried turning off the 'best wifi performance' option in the settings but it hasn't made a difference.
I'm just running the stock Rogers ROM at the moment.
Anyone seen anything related to this?
Thanks.
Hi, welcome to the forums.
One thing I'd say is, turn off best WiFi performance as it doesn't help much with extra range but sure eats battery using it.
My phone got hot a couple times while it was unrooted, whether it was and most likely a app hanging up an keeping cp in high use or, a fringe area to your mobile signal where you're partially on lte and hspa.
You could try switching your phones lte off in mobile settings an test for a couple days an or use a task manager to close out apps when you're done with them.
Another route is, boot loader unlock it, flash a recovery like twrp and try clean ROM here in the forums, its close to stock, just it actually works pretty good.
I bet its a poor signal situation in your case though.
WR
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Mine was doing the same thing but daily. Rogers has a local repair shop here and when they opened it up he found the battery contacts were corroded and causing issues with the battery discharging. He cleaned up the contacts and coated them to prevent the corroding again and sealed the phone back up. I have not had a problem with the phone since and I get 2 to 3 days off a charge now. I'm not an heavy user.
This may or may not be your problem but it's maybe something to have checked.
The repair guy told me that even minor condensation from sitting in a pocket when we are sweating or going in and out of major temperature changes due to winter would be enough to do it with the contacts being uncoated.
josh3794 said:
Mine was doing the same thing but daily. Rogers has a local repair shop here and when they opened it up he found the battery contacts were corroded and causing issues with the battery discharging. He cleaned up the contacts and coated them to prevent the corroding again and sealed the phone back up. I have not had a problem with the phone since and I get 2 to 3 days off a charge now. I'm not an heavy user.
This may or may not be your problem but it's maybe something to have checked.
The repair guy told me that even minor condensation from sitting in a pocket when we are sweating or going in and out of major temperature changes due to winter would be enough to do it with the contacts being uncoated.
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That's interesting. It's the first time I've heard of something like that. Did you take it in to a Rogers store to get them to look at it? The people at the closest Rogers to me wouldn't even consider an exchange/repair unless they can see the problem. If they won't help, I can always try to take it apart. It seems pretty easy to access the battery.
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Hi, welcome to the forums.
One thing I'd say is, turn off best WiFi performance as it doesn't help much with extra range but sure eats battery using it.
My phone got hot a couple times while it was unrooted, whether it was and most likely a app hanging up an keeping cp in high use or, a fringe area to your mobile signal where you're partially on lte and hspa.
You could try switching your phones lte off in mobile settings an test for a couple days an or use a task manager to close out apps when you're done with them.
Another route is, boot loader unlock it, flash a recovery like twrp and try clean ROM here in the forums, its close to stock, just it actually works pretty good.
I bet its a poor signal situation in your case though.
WR
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Yeah I might go ahead and flash clean ROM and see if it makes any difference. Worst case I'll get some new features to play with :laugh:
I forgot to mention that I've left my phone on HSPA and the best performance option has been off for at least a month.
I'm not convinced it's a signal issue though. The reception in my house is almost full and the problem is fairly intermittent. The phone itself crawls, barely registering touches. Wifi just turns off and gets stuck trying to turn it back on. It seems like something is stuck in a loop, just burning CPU cycles.
I might try getting a task manager and start killing processes once it happens again and see when the phone starts responding.
Sounds like a bad app the more detail you offer.
Corrosion damage and repairs are usually the result of individual usage rather then a broad general issue.
I don't see that being the issue myself.
No offence but just saying.
WR
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Maybe grab cpu notify from the market and it'll give you a visual representation of CPU in notification bar.
If you like, that is.
I use it.
WR
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I don't think it's corrosion either now reading the extra details.
If your not up to flashing a new rom just yet you could try better battery stats and see if something is running continuously.
If you do flash Clean Rom try not to re-install apps with data if you can help it.
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Sounds like a bad app the more detail you offer.
Corrosion damage and repairs are usually the result of individual usage rather then a broad general issue.
I don't see that being the issue myself.
No offence but just saying.
WR
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Maybe grab cpu notify from the market and it'll give you a visual representation of CPU in notification bar.
If you like, that is.
I use it.
WR
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Fair enough. I've attached screenshots I took last night when it happened. You'll notice wifi is off (I left it on) and both Wi-Fi and Android OS are taking the majority of the battery usage.
Thanks for the tip on CPU notify. I'll install it and monitor it the next time it happens.
josh3794 said:
I don't think it's corrosion either now reading the extra details.
If your not up to flashing a new rom just yet you could try better battery stats and see if something is running continuously.
If you do flash Clean Rom try not to re-install apps with data if you can help it.
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Yeah I think you're right.
Are there cases where an app can be going rogue and not show up on that list?
You have wifi and lte on in them pictures.
Looks like maps might have been using a lot of juice.
WR
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There are lots of apps that can go rogue and suck up the battery.
Better battery stats will show you what apps are using your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Out of curiousity are you rooted and is your bootloader unlocked? if not you would have to do that before flashing a new rom.
If not you may want to start with the 2 apps recommended to try and hunt down the problem just in the off chance you do have to return the phone for repair. I don't think you will get to that point but spending a few days recording what your phone is doing won't hurt.
Mine can get warm and eat battery when in a poor lte area, which I'm being this is a case of.
WR
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You have wifi and lte on in them pictures.
Looks like maps might have been using a lot of juice.
WR
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LTE actually shows "LTE" as an icon in my notification bar when it's on. It is odd that wifi says it's on when the notification bar shows 4g I can't connect to the internet when I'm in that state though I'm not sure if it's attempting to use wifi or data.
Thanks for the replies by the way, I really appreciate them.
Hmm, 4g is lte signal indicator as well.
In Canada, ours shows lte unless on a custom rom like asop ones.
You're stock right?
WR
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Very well could be. Rogers LTE coverage is pretty spotty. We don't have it in my area yet so I turn it off.
If I leave it on it doesn't make a difference on battery life though as it has nothing to connect to here.
From what I have read the battery draw happens when it connects and you either have constant disconnects or poor signal.
looking at your screenshots I wonder if maybe your having an issue with your wifi and mobile network fighting for connection.
Do you have both on all the time? If your in a low signal area for either one the other in theory should try and connect. Your phone may be spending a lot of time trying to connect to different networks.
josh3794 said:
There are lots of apps that can go rogue and suck up the battery.
Better battery stats will show you what apps are using your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Out of curiousity are you rooted and is your bootloader unlocked? if not you would have to do that before flashing a new rom.
If not you may want to start with the 2 apps recommended to try and hunt down the problem just in the off chance you do have to return the phone for repair. I don't think you will get to that point but spending a few days recording what your phone is doing won't hurt.
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I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet, but I'll get around to it soon. Makes it easier have a Rogers phone
You're right, I probably won't get an answer until I just do some monitoring. I did notice one time the battery usage screen said *wakelock* was taking up a decent amount of battery but I couldn't find out which app was holding it. Better Battery Stats will hopefully help out with that.
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Hmm, 4g is lte signal indicator as well.
In Canada, ours shows lte unless on a custom rom like asop ones.
You're stock right?
WR
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I'm running the stock Rogers ROM. It's looks like the attached photo when I'm on LTE. Staying on LTE really drains my battery fast because you can see the signal is weak.
Thanks again for the replies! :highfive:
I don't have LTE in my area but there are a lot of threads about LTE and low to no signal causing battery drains and other connection issues. I would almost suggest turning LTE off unless you need it and you know your in a good coverage area. You problems may disappear doing that.
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Very well could be. Rogers LTE coverage is pretty spotty. We don't have it in my area yet so I turn it off.
If I leave it on it doesn't make a difference on battery life though as it has nothing to connect to here.
From what I have read the battery draw happens when it connects and you either have constant disconnects or poor signal.
looking at your screenshots I wonder if maybe your having an issue with your wifi and mobile network fighting for connection.
Do you have both on all the time? If your in a low signal area for either one the other in theory should try and connect. Your phone may be spending a lot of time trying to connect to different networks.
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Hmm yeah I leave both on all the time. It's possible there's an issue with my wireless network at home. I wouldn't know how to verify it though. Every other device in our house seems fine =/
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I don't have LTE in my area but there are a lot of threads about LTE and low to no signal causing battery drains and other connection issues. I would almost suggest turning LTE off unless you need it and you know your in a good coverage area. You problems may disappear doing that.
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Yeah I always leave mine off unless I have a need for the extra speed (which isn't that often) and always turn it back to HSPA when I'm done with it.
Hmm, odd to me.
Lte indicator is correct for stock on rogers, though I can't understand the 4G one...
I ran Rogers 1.94 ROM briefly on Rogers before using it on Telus and I can't remember seeing that.
After flashing and using asop based ROMs, its expected on yank ROMs
Now using clean ROM, it reports lte and hspa correctly and I only see 4g when on CM10, so why it's showing on yours stock baffles me a bit.
WR
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If you need a constant data connection maybe try your day with your wifi off unless you are actually using it. If you don't need the data connection on all the time try running with it off as well unless you need it. You will find you get a longer battery life that way as a side benefit.
I'm thinking that if you don't have both running constantly and connecting off and on you won't have the battery issues your having.
Josh, you're a fellow beaver eater right?
Ever see 4g on your stock ROM?
WR
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