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What the HTC Incredible S, Experia Arc, myTouch HD and Inspire 4G have in common

**Update: The just announced HTC Incredible S has the same processor, same amount of RAM, same amount of Internal phone storage as well.
The Inspire 4G isn't looking that ancient anymore is it, yeah no dual core but that's another weight class altogether.
----->> http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Incredible-S_id5229/fullspecs
CPU: 32 bit Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255/Qualcomm Scorpion
Graphical Controller: Qualcomm Adreno 205
Youre going to see a Quadrant benchmark score of around: 2055 (highest recorded value) and much more after its rooted, overclocked and flashed with a custom rom down the line.
Heres a video of the real deal in action using the Quadrant benchmark app:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbRKbnUUr0
Someone has achieved a score of 2432 with the following using their Desire HD: Cyanogen RC2, Buzz kernel OC/UV and 1.22 GHz o/c by 22%
The above results indicate its only a few points under a stock LG Optimus 2X (Quadrant benchmark of 2514) which has a dual core... this is saying ALOT.
What the HTC Incredible S, Experia Arc, myTouch HD and Inspire 4G have in common

Direct copy paste of the review for the Sony Ericsson XPERIA Arc
"As far as general performance is concerned the Sony Ericsson XPERIA Arc does splendidly. It’s powered by a Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon System-on-a-chip featuring a 1 GHz Scorpion CPU and the Adreno 205 GPU. Yet the further optimizations brought by Gingerbread helps it do a bit better than the Desire HD at the CPU benchmarks.
Even at this early stage the XPERIA Arc is getting some excellent score on popular benchmarks
But it’s not so much synthetic benchmarks that should concern you – it’s the real life performance that matter here and the XPERIA Arc feels as smooth as butter. Even at these early stages of its development the handset didn’t treat us to any irritating lags or nasty holdups, which is really promising to say the least."
(legend221 says: "Its more than likely Gingerbread will be coming to the Inspire 4G down the line either from those amazing xda devs or directly from HTC")
Video of early Gingerbread development with the Desire HD/Inspire 4G:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5TR_5OERFY

How will this compare with what could be done with the Atrix? I am assuming it will be locked down but will the stock dual core and GPU they are using be comparable to what will be done with a rooted and rom'd Inspire?

awtryau89 said:
How will this compare with what could be done with the Atrix? I am assuming it will be locked down but will the stock dual core and GPU they are using be comparable to what will be done with a rooted and rom'd Inspire?
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I will have to wait and see what the Quadrant score is and compare.
Regardless, if its Motorola its going to be trouble and a lot more risky to manipulate than a trusty HTC device.
That's why I'm so adamant about the XDA community... we have soo much talent not even the manufacturers can officially release anything that compares to the custom Roms we are graced with.
Looking forward in seeing how the Inspire 4G develops.
Sent from my HTC Dream - Weighing whats out there for my next Android and or Network

Going to do a Quadrant score and post it later today as well.... looking forward to it!

legend221 said:
Going to do a Quadrant score and post it later today as well.... looking forward to it!
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Just ran a Quadrant score and received a 1786 and for comparison see the photo below taken from the net
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The Atrix quadrant run I saw had a result of 2500+. That thing is powerful for sure. The good thing about a March 6 release is that I'd be within my 30 days if I decide to go from Inspire to Atrix. Personally, I prefer Sense to Blur but the hardware is tough to ignore.

waltah! said:
The Atrix quadrant run I saw had a result of 2500+. That thing is powerful for sure. The good thing about a March 6 release is that I'd be within my 30 days if I decide to go from Inspire to Atrix. Personally, I prefer Sense to Blur but the hardware is tough to ignore.
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With a bit of OverClock, a custom Rom and some and Kernel love we are up there, just a few points under the over hyped Atrix 4G
This is what a Desire HD scores with the options below:
Model
HTC Desire HD
Benchmark App
Quadrant
Score
2432
OS
Android 2.2
Customization
Cyanogen RC2, Buzz kernel OC/UV
CPU
Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
CPU Clock
1.22 GHz o/c by 22%
GPU
Adreno 205

The HD2 has the same guts as the Inspire and look at its highest score, WOW
The potential is most definitely there, see direct quote below:
"Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:24 AM
I have a non android phone, T-mobile HD2, Converted to android, running 2.2 androind. This build is the NAND SuperRam from Dark Stone and is where I have managed to achieve on quadrant a score of 3692!!!! I am also NOT over clocked AT ALL! This is stock setting that he has for the build."

As most of that score comes from IO I assume that the NAND being used is just much faster then most other phones.

zizux said:
As most of that score comes from IO I assume that the NAND being used is just much faster then most other phones.
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You got that right, this phone is the best Android to be under AT&T so far.
Posted yesterday, Quadrant score: 1786

[Q] Nexus S getting very low scores on Quadrant

Hi everybody!
I've been using my Nexus S for one and a half weeks by now, and I've noticed that the phone itself is very cool etc. but it's Quadrant scores (Standard Edition) are only about 1250-1390, basically. It does the "hallway" part quite well (about 40 fps), but in the "planet" and the "dna" section it's framerate drops to 10-15 fps.
Here are the average framerates of each section:
"Sun surface" - 19
"Hallway" - 45
"Flashing room" - 37
"Planet & Moon" - 11 (WTF??)
"DNA" - 19
Final result: 1385
Hope you understood my terms
The phone is running Android GB 2.3.1 (still waiting for 2.3.3), and I have heard people say that Quadrant doesn't fully support Gingerbread, but I'm still childishly annoyed about a Quadrant score so low on a such high-end(for now) device!
Do you have any explanation for this?

Quadrants mean nothing. But if it really feeds your ego, you need to update to a custom ROM + kernel to get higher numbers.
Also, there has been reports of people not getting the update to 2.3.3. So you should probably manually update to 2.3.3 (find it in the general forums "2.3.3 link" thread)

I get the same odd low scores that you do, but I get 2800 in quadrant. CM7 #36
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Yeah not to mention the stock kernel doesn't have this ext4 boost thing in terms of I/O speeds. it was explained by supercurio.

I get 1931 pts with mine, Nexus S GT-I9023 stock (2.3.3, GRI40, Radio KB3...)

Quadrant score means nothing.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

kemsiro said:
Quadrant score means nothing.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Yeah thanks for just repeating what i said -.-

I suggest manually installing 2.3.3 update if you really want to stay stock... other wise, CM7 rc4 or nightly with ogdobber "james bond" kernel.. it's fast, super fast.. 3200+ points on quadrant with no OC..

well, on my NS i even hit 4539 (top till now) so i can say i got no complain.. although yes it is true in the planet section especially it get REALLY low fps

NS Zaapo said:
Hi everybody!
I've been using my Nexus S for one and a half weeks by now, and I've noticed that the phone itself is very cool etc. but it's Quadrant scores (Standard Edition) are only about 1250-1390, basically. It does the "hallway" part quite well (about 40 fps), but in the "planet" and the "dna" section it's framerate drops to 10-15 fps.
Here are the average framerates of each section:
"Sun surface" - 19
"Hallway" - 45
"Flashing room" - 37
"Planet & Moon" - 11 (WTF??)
"DNA" - 19
Final result: 1385
Hope you understood my terms
The phone is running Android GB 2.3.1 (still waiting for 2.3.3), and I have heard people say that Quadrant doesn't fully support Gingerbread, but I'm still childishly annoyed about a Quadrant score so low on a such high-end(for now) device!
Do you have any explanation for this?
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For some reason 3D part of the app runs like crap dev didn't do anything to improve this on NS
galaxy s runs same hardware yet caps out at 56fps on every graphic test
This is just another reason on top of the IO exploit that we shouldn't use this crap benchmark as a benchmark standard but try telling this to people who will continue to pop a boner over their exaggerated IO scores

NS Zaapo said:
Hi everybody!
I've been using my Nexus S for one and a half weeks by now, and I've noticed that the phone itself is very cool etc. but it's Quadrant scores (Standard Edition) are only about 1250-1390, basically. It does the "hallway" part quite well (about 40 fps), but in the "planet" and the "dna" section it's framerate drops to 10-15 fps.
Here are the average framerates of each section:
"Sun surface" - 19
"Hallway" - 45
"Flashing room" - 37
"Planet & Moon" - 11 (WTF??)
"DNA" - 19
Final result: 1385
Hope you understood my terms
The phone is running Android GB 2.3.1 (still waiting for 2.3.3), and I have heard people say that Quadrant doesn't fully support Gingerbread, but I'm still childishly annoyed about a Quadrant score so low on a such high-end(for now) device!
Do you have any explanation for this?
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nexus s quadrant score at 1.44ghz(1st) and 1.544ghz(2nd) using cm7 and the trinity kernel..
i dont see anything low with that
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he isn't talking about io hacks and overclocking
he is talking about the low FPS is 3d test that has been present since day one of the nexus s and dev has completely overlooked for what ever reason

Multi-Thread Linpack

Linpack has a new multi-thread app out. The best SGS2 score has been 155.597 MFLOPS. The Zoom is the reigning champion. Any of you run it yet?

Looks like the Evo 3D to me with 201.754
I'm getting crap with CM7 lol. 39.807 for both single and multithread
Of course I'm running stock everything. Be interesting to see what a EXT4 kernel with a 1.5ghz OC gets.

I don't know if I'mdoing it right, but it only takes about half a second to run the test? And I'm getting results all over the place between 81 and 101.
edit: Oh, that was at 1300MHz...when I pumped it up to 1500, I'm getting values between 93 and 113 on multithread.
Running EB 1.05 w/faux 0.0.3 1500uv/oc

I noticed mine says "Inconsistent Result" for Precision. Seems goofy. Very weird. Doesn't seem accurate.
If I keep doing it, sometimes I get a value for "Precision" but the MFLOPS are all over the place. Like above but mine go from high 30's to low 100's.
Again with CM7.

CM57 + Morifc @ 1.5/1.5 = 107.568
Update: Saw the Evo 3d scores were off the hook so I ran it on my Sensation (same exact processor) and got 15 wtf

lol.
15 eh?

player911 said:
lol.
15 eh?
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appears they worked this app with the evo and x2.
and made it work for those processors.
someone said the evo3d and sensation are same processor but i thought that the
sensation was a 1.2GHz Qualcomm MSM8260
evo3d was a 1.2GHz Qualcomm MSM8660
did this change. if not this may explain why its not working on the sensation as it does on the evo even though the chips are simialair their must be some differences.
???????

appears to be the worlds worst benchmark tool

eagle1967 said:
appears they worked this app with the evo and x2.
and made it work for those processors.
someone said the evo3d and sensation are same processor but i thought that the
sensation was a 1.2GHz Qualcomm MSM8260
evo3d was a 1.2GHz Qualcomm MSM8660
did this change. if not this may explain why its not working on the sensation as it does on the evo even though the chips are simialair their must be some differences.
???????
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Right you are. The difference is because of the different radios, one being GSM the other CDMA. Could explain things.

I got a score of 140+ but it was Inconsistent Result. But when it does go through it is around 118 OC @ 1.55. I think it still has some bugs to be worked out for sure.

My stock Atrix is now hitting almost 90mflops!
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I get 115 118 on oc 1500 but says inconsistent most times.
I believe from my experience with benchmarks is that these are made to favor certain setups ( ie. A specific phone.) I have no problems oc to 1500 all benchmarks run fine.
But on the smartbench 2011 it will give me invalid results on the 1500 oc every time. But the test run fine with no issues. Just my thought on this. Totally take these with a grain of salt.
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dual core + ics

I'm currently running virtuous inquisition 1.3.0. I've tried all ICS roms and I must say I havent' seen much speed increase running single core vs dual core (enabled via system tuner pro). ICS was supposed to take full advantage of the dual core processor but - it's not doing that. I ran tests and after disabling one core the phone actually performs a bit faster - using all the tests I could find: linpack, Quadrant and CF-Bench. Could well be that it's just such an early release of ICS. But GB is actually performing better vs ICS at the current state of affairs.

Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
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moto211 said:
Synthetic benchmarks are far from definitive.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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I'm comparing apples to apples numerous times, the disabled secondary core results are always a bit higher.

It's a test ROM. What did you expect?

1. It's an internal test LEAK with a pre-official base
2. Asynchronous smp. Wtf do people not understand about our phones being asynchronous smp architecture? Ics WILL NEVER change this. Ics made the whole rom multithreaded (taking advantage of multi core) and made apps aware of multicore, but nowhere did it EVER say it would change our phone from asynchronous smp to synchronous smp.
Our phones are only built to have cpu1 come on when the load (not speed) on cpu0 reaches a certain threshold.
ICS WILL NOT MAKE BOTH CORES STAY ON ALL THE TIME! this would mean changing the CPU architecture which is not happening after the whole SoC has been designed, layed out, and built (the physical chip and its design).
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

aNYthing24 said:
It's a test ROM. What did you expect?
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I was expecting dual core perform at least on par with the single core, as ICS finally able to do it.
But you may be right - got trip's experimental beta and without even looking if it's running dual core - his rom smokes competition flat. Much better results than even the famed Galaxy S2.

I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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ivicask said:
I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt

mrg02d said:
Which Rom are you using? My benchmarks suck...
Matt
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Using RCTeam first release 1.0 version.
Except i was inpatient to wait so i zipaligned and PNG optimized entire rom my self, and deleted bunch of HTC crap i dont use, including loggers...

ivicask said:
I dont understand what are you guys talking about, im running ICS with sense for few days and its faster than anything before and benchmarks confirm it
2600 in quadrant and 6250 in AnTuTU and i couldn't get that much even with custom tweaked kernels with overclocked GPU..
Only problem is as its early stage dev rom, scores are some times "quirky" and drop in half but most of the times you get this high ones.
Also Browser is noticeable smoother, scrolling pages (XDA Sensation development) is smooth now and was laggy with ALL roms EVER. EStrong file manager also smooth as it should be..
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quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.

sromer said:
quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
Matt

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quadrant doesn't support dual core & isn't a reliable benchmark.
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So your saying by disabling 2nd core you get same score? And tell me why is CPU usage on 100% during test for both cores if it doesnt support it..doesnt make sense to me..but who knows maybe your right...

mrg02d said:
Enough with Quadrant bashing. It shows useful FPS information and is relative. Now, if it only went to 2500 no matter what ROM you are using then yes, it would be useless. But getting a 1400 on it with one ROM and then getting a 2600 on it with another ROM AINT useless information.
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I'm not the only one on here that believes that it isn't a reliable benchmark.
Have a look at some of the threads about it.
Since android is a multi-tasking OS results will always vary from test to test in Quadrant.

Lets see some ICS ROM benchmarks

Hey guys, now that we have been playing with the various ICS ROMs, lets see some benchmarks along with your ROM and any tweaks that you feel got you to your score. I saw reports of some great benchmarks, however mine suck. Id love to see which ROMs score what.
EDIT: Oh yea, if you dont like Benchmarks, go away. Bashing benchmarks is played.
Matt

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44.1 fps with Nenamark2 on Virtuous @ 1.188 GHz max 368MHz min.

2D performance has improved a lot -- I'm seeing double the FPS compared to GB ROMs -- that's all I've taken from Quadrant (max I'll get is 2200). Probably has to do with hardware acceleration.

Quadrant is extremely outdated and was not a very good benchmarker when it was up to date. It is inconsistant and, correct me if I am wrong, it does not take advantage of dual cores.
Nenamark is a great 3D benchmark.
Also, here is a screen shot I took a long time ago with my Nexus One.
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According to Quadrant the Sensation is just a tad better than the Sexy Nexie.

Yeah wow, the most people were able to get in NenaMark 2 was around 29 fps with Gingerbread. I got 43 fps...pretty significant improvement. 59.4 fps in NenaMark 1.

nenamark2-43.8
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aNYthing24 said:
Yeah wow, the most people were able to get in NenaMark 2 was around 29 fps with Gingerbread. I got 43 fps...pretty significant improvement. 59.4 fps in NenaMark 1.
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You didn't mention which ROM. I'm assuming Virtuous

Actually the 3D performance increased after 2.08 update which brings android 2.3.5 with updated adreno drivers. I score 38-40 with 2.08, on the official sense 3 there is 25 fps max limit.
Anyway I read that 3D games don't work with ics build or works with noticeable lag. Is that true or games is playable now?

Antutu - 7106 - TripNiCE.

44.1 fps on nenamark 2...
Device: HTC Sensation - S-off - Rooted - 32Gb sd
ROM: ARHD 5.0.2 ICS + no-sense
Kernel: Stock
Radio: 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
Recovery: 4Ext Touch