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[Q] Galaxy S 4G: how much is your application storage?

I caught one with 190MB application storage which is unacceptable for most.
I use MT4 and NS instead of nexus one because of that. Don't ever think app2SD helps because it won't work when the phone is in USB mass storage mode or memory card is removed.

I had about the same until I started adding some of my apps to the phone. I can't even add all my apps because of the internal storage. Can't wait for root and some Roms (CyanogenMod 7).
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Man this thing is pissing me off. I can't even install half the apps I had installed on my original Vibrant.

T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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HeavyComponent said:
T-mobile should give us options on installing apps as soon as we turn it on. They just throw **** we won't use on the phone and call it a day. Now what if we had no devs nor root or anything like that? Look at what we would be stuck with. In that case people would just return the phone.
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We can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps for now right?

Well yeah if you have root access.
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HeavyComponent said:
Well yeah if you have root access.
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Cool I rooted it and have Titanium Backup installed. Just no CWM yet for ROM Manager.

I have all my appz installed with no issue... honestly 16gb onboard made the vibrant slow. im glad to have less... and I can install as many apps to my sd card as i want.

I see someone has said they have over 500mb of internal, how is that possible and why is mine not the same?

I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem

IAIRonI said:
I'm on live chat with T-Mobile right now. The lady just told me...
"Okay, thank you for that information. There definitely seems to be an issue here. I am looking further into this"
So obviously there is a problem
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Ok cool, let us know what's going on. I have a total of 539MB internal storage.
Specs says 1GB! I read that off phonedog I think.

"You should definitley have more memory than what you are showing. I can get you the manufacturers information. Since it is a Samsung device their support teams will definitely be able to assist you a little better than us at the moment.
_Jessica C: I know that you don't want to go back to the store, but if there is an issue with the device it may be the best bet since it is a new phone. I can also recommend taking it to a T-mobile direct dealer. They may be able to test your software. They know anything and everything about these phones.
_Jessica C: I do apologize but I am limited with my information at the time."
Since it's a new phone she doesn't have all the info, etc. At least they know there is a problem now.
I'm going to go to a t-mobile store and talk to them so I'll let you know what they say

LOL
i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.

Ok, I just got off with a T-Mobile rep and she said the internal memory should have a total of 512MB. ...sucks! But good thing we have a 16GB sdcard.

^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
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LOL
i doubt that a t mobile rep would know anything and everything about the phone.
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I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.

Let us know the difference once you get the exchange.
IAIRonI said:
^I was told 512 ram and 1024 rom. Plus 512 makes no sense when dude a couple posts up said he had 539mb available..sorry not dude above, you said it yourself! lol
I know lol. But at least I can exchange my phone. Probably have the same problem but who knows.
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Ok, I can't stand my phone to be on stock so I think I will be going back to my MT4G.
I'll be back when Rom Manager supports the phone, full recovery and some nice ROMs starts flying in. (I WANT CM7!)
...love the screen though! Big difference when coming from the MT4G. :|
I will be checking this section and will be posting as well.
Thanks for all the help guys.

I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.

aloneinshadow said:
I had a butt-load of apps backed up with titanium and I was able to install all of them with no issues. I started with 539MB internal, I've got 154MB free. I have 220 user apps installed.
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Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?

I only installed about 10 apps and I'm down to 151mb. Kinda sucks. Hoping we can get clockwork recovery soon.
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HeavyComponent said:
Did you get rid of anything that came with the phone?
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Just a few bloatware things, probably 10 or 15 apps.

Space Issue moving from Vibrant

I've moved from a Vibrant to a SGS4G. I hoped I could just tell Titanium to restore my apps+data from backup with the install to SD option.
It does this ok, until it runs out of space. Install to SD just puts the apk's on the SD. The dex and lib go to internal memory which runs out. Clearing the cache doesn't seem to buy much.
I've read through the EXT4 partitioning thread, but its not clear to me that will do me any good. Doesn't link2sd end up moving the same apk's to the SD as install to SD?
My external SD is 16GB and I have room. Shouldn't I be able to have as many apps on the SGS4G as I did on the Vibrant if I commit its space?

You might want to look into fota fix
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.matthenry87.fotafix&feature=search_result
You can free up a good amount of space with it. Yeah, this phone's internal memory is depressingly low... But eh, I've made do with it. Ever since doing the fota fix, I haven't gotten the message.

Im using the fota fix as well. Its worth it.
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I just took a look at the fota fix. Apparently it recovers the internal space needed for over the air updates.
From my Vibrant experience t-mobile is not doing any over the air updates, just Kies from samsung. Is that the same for SGS4G. and does fota interfere with Kies updates?

How do you run out of space? I have never run out of space on ANY of my phones and that includes G1 Evo and SGS4G. My friends never have either....

Eric-1987 said:
How do you run out of space? I have never run out of space on ANY of my phones and that includes G1 Evo and SGS4G. My friends never have either....
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I do have a lot of apps, but they fit nicely on the vibrant. When I did the restore I noticed that the bigger ones like google earth and Opera use significant internal storage besides the apk on the SD card.

You really use google earth? I have never once used it. Nor have I used opera. Do you have more than one browser installed? Find one that fits the bill of all your needs. Thats what I do. I cannot stand using 2 pieces of software that could be rolled into one.

The thing is vibrant has 1 Gb of "Internal" storage. While sgs4g has a front facing camera, there that took up some of the memory! So fota will give you atleast 420 mb while a vibrant gives 1Gb. Hope this helps.
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I thought the vibrant had 16gb? Or is that only the SD card?

Eric-1987 said:
I thought the vibrant had 16gb? Or is that only the SD card?
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I thought vibrant had 16 gig internal 2 gig for apps and a 2 gig card with avatar on it
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well i know is that internal storage is alot in the vibrant, and storage is not known for in the SGS4G

phreshjoker said:
well i know is that internal storage is alot in the vibrant, and storage is not known for in the SGS4G
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you need to get rooted and look for the fota fix app in the market, use it then reboot and youll be fine.

[Q] Coming from vibrant

Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums

medoo313 said:
Hi Guys
I will be getting my 4G in the next 2 days and i was doing some research to figure out how the 4G gets rooted and all of the other good stuff.
I have a vibrant but it looks totally different animal than the 4G. I want to say more Simple.
so my 1st question is If I am going to root how will i unroot if i want to turn the phone for repair or any other reason? as you know rooted phones out of warranty
2nd How is GB roms running comparing to vibrant when it comes to hardware supported, battery life, GPS .............. ?
and last question how come every time i go from page to another my internet security keeps flagging as malicious URL (malware) ?
also I want to say thank you all very much for the great Support here and all over XDA Forums
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GB ROM's aren't fully stable just yet. And dev support is about 1/50th of what it is in the Vibrant section so it will take more time for it to pick up for the 4G. Also, internal memory sucks so you'll probably need apps2SD or something.
But there are plenty of great people here that will help you out, lots of good things should be coming to this phone in the future. The ROM bible in the dev section should provide you with a lot of rooting tips.
Good luck man.

Thanks for your respond mackster. I will be joining the game here soon.

one of the questions answered
so I did some more research on superoneclick and I see that is good for
Rooting and UnRooting
Correct me if I am Mistaking
but will someone till me why do i Delete Fota Files for ?

Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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lostsauce said:
Replacing the fota files will free up about 150 to 200 MB of internal memory thus giving more space for your apps
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when you say internal memory isn't like 16 GB ? Like the vibrant ?

Internal Memory
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.

Exodian said:
I believe that the internal memory is somewhere around 512 mb, hence the need for the fota fix, after replacing the fota files you should have in the area of +/- 350 mb.
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oh man. i just figured that out too. that's not Nice

Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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dsexton702 said:
Can the vibrant get a 2000 quad score or 20 mflops stock? Sgs4g can
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Well. you made a point but as you know we're human likes the hole pie not missing any piece

I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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Exodian said:
I would not worry about the lack of internal memory. With the fota fix, removed bloatware and apps2sd you should never have any space issues. The 4g is one badass phone out the box, once you get all the mods up and going it is just killer.
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just got it but too bad i have to go to work. I will be playing with it tomorrow after noon

Solution " Low Disk Space "

Solution to the ERROR " Low Disk Space "
Must Be Running A2SD ​
Ok so this isn't some be all end all solution to the problem. I'm sure this will solve the issue for most of the users out there. But inadvertently there are always those it does not work for. Basically I stumbled upon this while trying to resolve the issue I was having with the Wife's OG EVO 4G. Which is the pop up message saying " Low Disk Space " . It also resolved the issue of the other Pop Up she would get that said " insufficient memory " available. Basically the Memory I'm referring to is the Internal Memory. Before I did this she had 73MB of Internal Memory left. After I did this she ended up with well over 200MB. Now the results will vary for everyone. But you should end up with more Internal Memory.
PLEASE READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE DOING ANYTHING​
So here's how:
1. Make sure your Running A2SD
2. Download Titanium Backup
3. Open Titanium Backup ( make a mental note of your Internal Free Memory )
4. Go to Backup/Restore let the apps load
5. Scroll down to Dialer Storage
6. Long Press on it a Pop up list will come up
7. Scroll till you see " Move app data to SD card "
8. Press it ( if this is your first time doing this you may get a pop up asking you if you want to create the Data to App Space. Click " YES "
9. It will do it's thing , and done
10. Now go back to Overview. You should see a noticeable Increase in Free Internal Memory
Now keep in mind the Results Will Vary For Everyone. Not everyone will gain a ton of Memory back. But in my experience it has resolved the issue 90% of the time.
DISCLAIMER:
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DEVICE. I am simply passing along information. I have tried this on over a dozen Devices already. It has worked in all but one case. I am currently using my setup like this, and my wife's with Zero issues.
Mods if this is in the Wrong place feel free to move it. My Apologies if it is.

I don't see the requirements for a sdext partition
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blahbl4hblah said:
I don't see the requirements for a sdext partition
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Good point. I've confirmed it working on both Ext.3 , and Ext.4

prboy1969 said:
Good point. I've confirmed it working on both Ext.3 , and Ext.4
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Also moving apps to your sdcard IS NOT A2SD. Apps will just load slow and if the app doesn't support sdcard then it won't work.
A2sd-ext is different
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blahbl4hblah said:
Also moving apps to your sdcard IS NOT A2SD. Apps will just load slow and if the app doesn't support sdcard then it won't work.
A2sd-ext is different
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Ok so I'm sensing a bit of an issue . Thank you, I understand how A2SD works. Also that moving an App manually to the SD Card is not A2SD. I know that A2SD does not work correctly if the Rom does not support it. I never stated anything about moving the App to the SD Card. In the OP I state that you should move the App data to the SD Card. Also I only mentioned about moving the Data from the Dialer Storage. Although I've moved several other Apps Data to the SD Card without issue. Angry Birds to mention one, which performs the same as before I moved App Data to the SD Card. As for moving an App to the SD Card, or running it from the SD Card. There are a few more things involved as to how it performs. The SD Card Class, and the SD Card read ahead speed to name a couple.

Are you sure you know how a2sd works? If you did then you would know that app data in an sdcard runs so slow its not even worth it
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feck it, just make a rom/kernel that puts your system and data on the sdcard then youll have gigs of space. it works on older samsungs anyways lol

blahbl4hblah said:
Are you sure you know how a2sd works? If you did then you would know that app data in an sdcard runs so slow its not even worth it
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Once again Thank You for your " Opinion " . Duly noted. Also once again, I am WELL aware of how A2SD works on an Android Device. I am also aware that if it is Implemented on quite a few Roms out there. So I pose the question to you. Why is it that so many Devs use it on there Roms, INCLUDING YOU.
As in THIS Rom thread, and the one HERE. Thanks again for your opinion. Have a nice day.
Quote from your thread as posted by you in your OP :
FAQ
Why did I include a apps2ext script to the rom?
Even though we have 1GB space of internal memory and a lot of the G2 users believe that is enough.
The more apps that are installed, the slower our phones can get after time.
Apps2ext takes all of that stress from our internal storage and diverts it to our sd-ext partition if there's any.
This results in our phones never have to worry about slowing down just because of the number of apps that we have installed.
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feck it, just make a rom/kernel that puts your system and data on the sdcard then youll have gigs of space. it works on older samsungs anyways lol
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Yes true enough. But a bit beyond your average users scope of ability .

Because I DON'T MOVE the data/data to sd-ext. You keep saying you are well aware of how it works but clearly you don't know which makes it faster while others make the phone lag
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blahbl4hblah said:
Because I DON'T MOVE the data/data to sd-ext. You keep saying you are well aware of how it works but clearly you don't know which makes it faster while others make the phone lag
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Ok enough is enough . I am not talking about moving all App Data to the SD Card. I was only saying to move the App Data form the Dialer Storage. As is clearly stated in the OP. I have more then once in actual testing verified that it does not, and is not affecting the performance of the Devices I have tested. That are also currently using this method. Which is well more than just one, or two Devices. I understand that you do not agree with what is stated in the method in the OP. I get it. Lets agree to disagree. If you do not like what is stated STOP READING. Do not continue to TROLL the thread stating that I " do not understand how A2SD works " . If that were the case I would not have posted the thread. This is not my first Rodeo. I did not just post without first testing, and verifying what I was about to post for other users. I do not casually post to bolster my own ego, and post count. So thank you for your opinion, and have a good one.

Hey after u fallow all those steps.
Go to batch
Then scroll to MOVE APP DATA TO SD CARD
AND RUN IT.
IT WILL MAKE EVEN MORE SPACE TO THE INTERNAL MEMORY
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B RAD G 296 said:
Hey after u fallow all those steps.
Go to batch
Then scroll to MOVE APP DATA TO SD CARD
AND RUN IT.
IT WILL MAKE EVEN MORE SPACE TO THE INTERNAL MEMORY
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I would recommend against batch moving Apps, or Data. Some Apps may not react well to doing that.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

prboy1969 said:
I would recommend against batch moving Apps, or Data. Some Apps may not react well to doing that.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
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Well it been work good so far and I increase my rom space from 170 to 230 or something like that
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B RAD G 296 said:
Well it been work good so far and I increase my rom space from 170 to 230 or something like that
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All good . It's always nice to have options. I'm sure it will work, just not what I would recommend. In addition to what I did in the OP I also run Dalvik form the SD Card. Although I would not recommend that to everyone. Reason being it's can be finicky. There are a few variables involved, Rom, SD Card Class, Device. I've found it works better if you have a Higher Class SD Card.

+20GB space unaccounted for in all File managers. Ghost Data. Need help.

As you can see from the 2 pics, my phone shows 92Gb used in settings whereas multiple different file managers show my entire used Storage/ SD to be precisely 68.92Gb.
Where is this ghost data from and how can i find it?
PS this is not an error because the available space is indeed according to 92GB space filled. So only 23gb left.
Any advice is highly appreciated.

I have had very good success with the app SDmaid to clarify those occurences (aside from many other useful features of this app)

Have you tried to backup your important data then format down everything? I know this solution is not the best but perhaps can help you

use sd maid

Hitman478™ said:
Have you tried to backup your important data then format down everything? I know this solution is not the best but perhaps can help you
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I haven't yet but that Would be my last resort after Pie release, waiting for stable pie OOS before i format everything and make a fresh start.
Hopefully they will release it in a week or 2. *fingers crossed*

s3axel said:
I have had very good success with the app SDmaid to clarify those occurences (aside from many other useful features of this app)
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rajone9 said:
use sd maid
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Wow, guys, thank you SO MUCH!! :highfive:
This just saved me a tonn of anxiety and worry and time wasted finding the data! :victory:
Silly me mixed a few things and didn't realize file managers were not including app+data+obb
I can't believe i never saw this amazingg gem before! :laugh:
I just bought the pro version because its so freakin awesome!

i always use DiskUsage so that you can see which folders take up the space.

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i always use DiskUsage so that you can see which folders take up the space.
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Damn, what a fantastically simple app! Thanks man! Love how i find such hidden gems in this community :victory:
only thing i could tell was that it is showing my full storage to be 108gb which is probably incorrect. I think 128Gb model gets atleast 116GB storage fpr use.
Do u have 128gb storage model?

Lord. Tech said:
Damn, what a fantastically simple app! Thanks man! Love how i find such hidden gems in this community :victory:
only thing i could tell was that it is showing my full storage to be 108gb which is probably incorrect. I think 128Gb model gets atleast 116GB storage fpr use.
Do u have 128gb storage model?
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yea, i have the 128 model and when i first got the phone it said 116gb but i think not the OS takes up 20 GB so it leaves me with 106-108 and then i got like 12gb of data so i am already at 94gb, which is still enough but i really hate how big the android system takes up and guess it has to do with the A and B partition also.

RiTCHiE007 said:
yea, i have the 128 model and when i first got the phone it said 116gb but i think not the OS takes up 20 GB so it leaves me with 106-108 and then i got like 12gb of data so i am already at 94gb, which is still enough but i really hate how big the android system takes up and guess it has to do with the A and B partition also.
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Oh wow, i didn't know that. I think ur right because i went to the root folder in diskusage and there was the entire system, away from the /SD 108gb, so this is separate data worth 20gb or so! Damn :/