I've moved from a Vibrant to a SGS4G. I hoped I could just tell Titanium to restore my apps+data from backup with the install to SD option.
It does this ok, until it runs out of space. Install to SD just puts the apk's on the SD. The dex and lib go to internal memory which runs out. Clearing the cache doesn't seem to buy much.
I've read through the EXT4 partitioning thread, but its not clear to me that will do me any good. Doesn't link2sd end up moving the same apk's to the SD as install to SD?
My external SD is 16GB and I have room. Shouldn't I be able to have as many apps on the SGS4G as I did on the Vibrant if I commit its space?
You might want to look into fota fix
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.matthenry87.fotafix&feature=search_result
You can free up a good amount of space with it. Yeah, this phone's internal memory is depressingly low... But eh, I've made do with it. Ever since doing the fota fix, I haven't gotten the message.
Im using the fota fix as well. Its worth it.
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I just took a look at the fota fix. Apparently it recovers the internal space needed for over the air updates.
From my Vibrant experience t-mobile is not doing any over the air updates, just Kies from samsung. Is that the same for SGS4G. and does fota interfere with Kies updates?
How do you run out of space? I have never run out of space on ANY of my phones and that includes G1 Evo and SGS4G. My friends never have either....
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How do you run out of space? I have never run out of space on ANY of my phones and that includes G1 Evo and SGS4G. My friends never have either....
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I do have a lot of apps, but they fit nicely on the vibrant. When I did the restore I noticed that the bigger ones like google earth and Opera use significant internal storage besides the apk on the SD card.
You really use google earth? I have never once used it. Nor have I used opera. Do you have more than one browser installed? Find one that fits the bill of all your needs. Thats what I do. I cannot stand using 2 pieces of software that could be rolled into one.
The thing is vibrant has 1 Gb of "Internal" storage. While sgs4g has a front facing camera, there that took up some of the memory! So fota will give you atleast 420 mb while a vibrant gives 1Gb. Hope this helps.
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I thought the vibrant had 16gb? Or is that only the SD card?
Eric-1987 said:
I thought the vibrant had 16gb? Or is that only the SD card?
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I thought vibrant had 16 gig internal 2 gig for apps and a 2 gig card with avatar on it
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well i know is that internal storage is alot in the vibrant, and storage is not known for in the SGS4G
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well i know is that internal storage is alot in the vibrant, and storage is not known for in the SGS4G
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you need to get rooted and look for the fota fix app in the market, use it then reboot and youll be fine.
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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
Instead, i wonder why i am running very low on memory when there is 2gb internal storage that android will see or use. I removed alot of the att crap using titanium backup.
Android install uses, really, that much for the rom and stuff that ONLY half (1gb) is free for us to use up?
I wonder if its possible to increase the internal memory seen?? Probably not. But i remember back using the hd2 with android we could increase the data file size to 2gb and it had alot more room to play with
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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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Ok, I'm not sure on the internal memory or not.
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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I've got a lot of apps installed. Including some that takes a lot of space like Need for Speed Shift.
The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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Does anyone know?
This might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
I don't care about the other 2gb of memory. I want to know why the Rom uses almost a gig itself and we get left with almost nothing. I know I can move apps to storage card, but that's not what I'm looking for as an answer. Does the Rom actually use a gig and we get left with the other gig? I just don't get how a Rom can use that much.
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It has 1GB of usable storage. Froyo allows you to install apps on the SD card. If you can manage to fill 1GB of non-SD apps then honestly, you have to many apps. That's probably approaching the 3-digit number of apps. Don't worry about specs so much and just focus on actual performance.
I asked HTC why, on a device that's advertised with 4gb internal memory, no one sees more than a little over 1gb free. This was the official response I got from HTC regarding the issue:
Dear Greg,
I understand the importance of being able to use the fully memory capacity of your HTC Inspire 4G. The 4GB of ROM on your device is shared with the operating system and all programs that are pre-installed on the device. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced through this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW09ENA001776.
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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I mean I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch about it. I have plenty of room on my SD...and if it's true that this space is used to optimize the OS, then OK. It would be nice to have access to all of that storage - but it's not necessary. I wish that this would be how they advertised it though, rather than just saying 4gb internal memory
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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Doesn't bother me at all. I have over 850mb of it free.
Gotta love CM7.
So the OS is using a whopping gig of the internal storage. Ok, i already KNEW that. It still doesnt explain why this phone is using that much and my dell streak has a gig and a half available when reset to factory default and nothing installed.
With the HD2 running froyo off the sd card, and the img set to 2gb, same thing, it had alot more than a gig left. Heck, some roms for that were set with 1gb img file and froyo didnt use it all up from the geckgo.
It just doesnt make any sense to me. Im not looking for more space for apps, i have alot of space left, but when i dont, im going to be going ....... WTF
Im sure there are going to be some app monkeys running out of room and asking the same thing.
On a related note (just to clarify that I am not directly addressing the main issue at hand), I have 21 apps installed, 6 of which are games, and still have .96GB free. How many freaking apps do you guys have installed to be running out of space? At my rate, I would probably have to install over 200 apps to run out of space.
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Ok, since you cant read
IM NOT OUT OF SPACE !!!!!!!
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUNNING OUT OF SPACE
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Since you're not too good at this whole discussion thing, let me explain how we got here.
A) I realize that this thread is about the fact that we only see 1 of the 4GB of internal memory. I don't know exactly why that is.
B) You said in the first post "i am running very low on memory".
C) In a question relating to something you said in your original post, I asked how you could possibly be running low on memory.
D) Relax. Breath. It's going to be ok. Discussions sometimes lead to other questions on related topics. You can't let those questions weigh on you... the burden is too much for a single man to carry. You just have to answer these related questions to free yourself from the awful stress.
what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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The galaxy s series has 8-16gb but about 3 is set aside for OS and apps. There's one example.
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What I meant for running low on memory is more geared at the Rom taking a whooping 1 gig and out of the 2 gigs Android will see, out of the stupid 4 installed, and that leaves me with a whooping 1 gig. Not a whole lot. As it stands, I have about 800 mg left and I wouldn't consider that running low. We should have about a gig and a half available, if not more. Roms really are only about 250mb. REALLY?????
I guess I need to be a little more clear with my wording
This is my first android phone so excuse me if I'm doing something wrong but the G2X has 8gbs of memory and we can access maybe 5gbs, ok. I installed a 16gbs class 6 card and its trying fine. I downloaded a bunch of gameloft games and I can't get them to install on my 16gb chip. They keep on filling my internal memory card. Why cant I run any of them of the external card like I use to do on my Hd2? Is there a setting that I'm missing? Thanks
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I had a problem with a bunch of music going to the internal memory, so I hooked up to my laptop And moved them manually.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most apps are installed directly to your internal memory unless that app has the option to move it to your external SD card.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most apps are installed directly to your internal memory unless that app has the option to move it to your external SD card.
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Kinda sucks that you cant just move them all to the external card. The gameloft games kinda use up alot of space The phone rocks though.
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This is my first android phone so excuse me if I'm doing something wrong but the G2X has 8gbs of memory and we can access maybe 5gbs, ok. I installed a 16gbs class 6 card and its trying fine. I downloaded a bunch of gameloft games and I can't get them to install on my 16gb chip. They keep on filling my internal memory card. Why cant I run any of them of the external card like I use to do on my Hd2? Is there a setting that I'm missing? Thanks
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I thought Gameloft games install data to external card on my Vibrant. Can someone confirm this? All the Gameloft games I have so far, only installed to internal memory.
No.
App2sd = internal sd card. The external sd is mounts to a folder. You can't install apps there.
Trays why a lot of us won't bother buying phonesbwith less than 16gb internal storage...
The sd it gets installed to in the internal one. The app memory id partitioned off of that storage, that's why you only have about 5gb there on a mint phone.
Happy to help.
P.S. The vibrant works the same way...
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So I guess the sensation will really suck if this rule works for it aswell.
I was moving some stuff around on the internal SD card and must have deleted a folder or moved something because I can't download anything without and external card in the phone. I can't even use the camera without an SD card because there is no where for the pics to be saved. Can someone with knowledge of the stock Android file system tell me what I may have messed up?
The internal storage of the phone should all be located under "mnt" right?
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I was moving some stuff around on the internal SD card and must have deleted a folder or moved something because I can't download anything without and external card in the phone. I can't even use the camera without pan SD card because there is no where for the pics to be saved. Can someone with knowledge of the stock Android file system tell me what I may have messed up?
The internal storage of the phone should all be located under "mnt" right?
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First... Terminology...
You were moving stuff around on your SD card, right? The one that can be physically swapped out? Not the "internal" memory, I assume.
With root explorer or something?
The SD card that is removeable from the phone, like the what you made your goldcard out of, is under /mnt/sdcard.
The internal memory, where the OS is stored and whatnot, is different.
On my Atrix it was referred to as an internal SD card which would be the internal memory of the phone, im new to android so I assumed this is how it works. I am not referring to my external SD card, I can format that if need be. The internal file systems of my phone is messed up and I seem to be unable to save anything to it.
and yes I was using root explorer.
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On my Atrix it was referred to as an internal SD card which would be the internal memory of the phone, im new to android so I assumed this is how it works. I am not referring to my external SD card, I can format that if need be. The internal file systems of my phone is messed up and I seem to be unable to save anything to it.
and yes I was using root explorer.
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The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
zelendel said:
The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
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Wow thank you. I wasnt aware of this. So I wont be able to download pictures from the internet or use my camera unless I have an SD card in at all times?
That's completely correct.
Just invest in a decent microSD card, you'll be carrying it to your next phone anyhow.
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That's completely correct.
Just invest in a decent microSD card, you'll be carrying it to your next phone anyhow.
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What he ^^^^ said. You can get a decent 16 gb class 10 card for about 40 bucks or so. Should look into it. Internel memory is not the best place for your pics. If something happens and you brick then you lose everything. With external it is pretty save
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What he ^^^^ said. You can get a decent 16 gb class 10 card for about 40 bucks or so. Should look into it. Internel memory is not the best place for your pics. If something happens and you brick then you lose everything. With external it is pretty save
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I have a 16 gb external. Got it for 27
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Putting it back in now lol
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I have a 16 gb external. Got it for 27
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Nice. What class? 2, 4 ,6, 10? I was able to find a class 10 for 39.99 at best buy and that was the best price I have seen
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Nice. What class? 2, 4 ,6, 10? I was able to find a class 10 for 39.99 at best buy and that was the best price I have seen
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Class 4
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Class 4
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I'm curious and have a couple questions about you SD card. What brand is it? Where did you get it? Finally, did that price include shipping and applicable taxes. Thanx much!
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The inspire only has one storage system and that is The external SD. That is the only place things are stored. There is no internel memory like the atrix or captivate.
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Oh come on dude, Moderators shouldn't make sarcastic comments like that.
The Inspire has it's own internal storage (Elixer calculates it to 1.1GB), as well as external storage on the SD card.
If the Inspire had no internal storage, and only put stuff on the SD card, then WTF would be the point of the "move to SD" function, and the fact that it actually does work?!?!
The "internal" storage uses /data, /cache, and /system, while the "external" SD card uses /mnt/sdcard
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Oh come on dude, Moderators shouldn't make sarcastic comments like that.
The Inspire has it's own internal storage (Elixer calculates it to 1.1GB), as well as external storage on the SD card.
If the Inspire had no internal storage, and only put stuff on the SD card, then WTF would be the point of the "move to SD" function, and the fact that it actually does work?!?!
The "internal" storage uses /data, /cache, and /system, while the "external" SD card uses /mnt/sdcard
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First off it wasn't sarcastic. Second the OP was asking about storing pictures and those are only stored on the external SD. The move to SD is for apps that are stored in data/app, when moved to SD. it changes the directory to sdcard/data/app
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First off it wasn't sarcastic.
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Sorry for assuming your posting was sarcastic, I see so much of that here.
I wonder if any devs out there are working on a way to force the camera software to be able to use the internal memory instead of just the SD Card, or at least use it as a buffer while writing to the SD. That would sure cut down on the annoying shutter lag, I bet.
did you look at slickdeals or even costco for different prices? Slickdeals usually have a lot of deals on USB flash drives and SD cards. Hope that helps
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Sorry for assuming your posting was sarcastic, I see so much of that here.
I wonder if any devs out there are working on a way to force the camera software to be able to use the internal memory instead of just the SD Card, or at least use it as a buffer while writing to the SD. That would sure cut down on the annoying shutter lag, I bet.
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I understand where your coming from as it is an all too regular sight recently. I am normally very laid back and easy going. As for the shutter lag, I only have my captivate to test in but, I have never seen a diff if it is stored on the internal or external SD. But I also don't use the stock camera.
Is there any advantage to buying an external SD card as far as flashing roms and such? I don't have a lot of music and photos stored so space is not a concern.
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Is there any advantage to buying an external SD card as far as flashing roms and such? I don't have a lot of music and photos stored so space is not a concern.
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I didn't think space would be an issue for me either. I started using and 8 gig card, then a 16, and now a 32. I don't use my phone for music or video either unless its streaming. The thing is, once you have a nandroid or 6 on it, some ROM add ons, a couple of apps (along with their storage requirements), and a few other things you will notice space filling quickly. I use my SD card for picture and video recording storge as well, but I don't take alot of pictures and video. Its nice to have the extra space incase I need to though. I am a fan of keeping whatever I can on external SD if possible instead of internal. And I also back up the important stuff onto my PC and a backup drive. I just got a PNY 32 gig class 10 at Bestbuy for $39 and the Accessories section lists Amazon deals at around $32 if you can find them. I think it is worth it. Its nice to know the extra strorage is there just in case even if you don't think you will ever need to use it. Plus, you can remove the SD card and make sure the data on it won't be erased or messed up by new flashes and stuff like that. Its also easily transferable.
Off to future shop!!
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Yes, get sd card
I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Makes sense.
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My phone has the exact same internal storage as you and total space. The 4gb you're referring to could be the external SD card. I'm using a 8gb card at the moment...
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Well, that makes sense. The phone did come with the external SD card. I never really thought about it cause the external SD card that came with my phone was corrupted. I have a 2GB external right now. By the way, I use PacRom too.
PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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Yes and no
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PAC ROM is top-notch, make sure and thank Ink for the goodness!
It came corrupted? That is a pisscutter, did you get a replacement? I've read this phone can handle add much as 32gb, have yet to go up though...
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It did come corrupted, and I didn't ask for a replacement. Doesn't seem like a big deal until I can store apps and stuff on my SD card. Also, SD cards are cheap. I just never got around to buying another one.
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I just want to say, I have been using the Blaze for 6 months, but, everyone else has 4 GB in their Blaze. I only have about 2.5 GB of internal storage. Was there a change in the production or something? View Screenshots.
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I just got this phone and I'm wondering about the same thing. There are two "internal storage" bars and they show total space of 1.12 and 1.4G respectively. The SD card remains mostly unused. It seems that the internal storage is partitioned in two? It appears all the appdata is also stored on the 2nd "internal storage". How do i consolidate the two into one, and use the SD card for all the data storage?
Many thanks.
That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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So I take that the partition is permenant?
This really severaly limits the usability of the phone to that of a novice/beginner, with only <2gb for apps and another <2gb for data. Is there any script/app/etc that mounts the 2nd partition to the external SD? I've searched and Link2SD shows up a few times, something I've used on P509 (optimus T) and didn't think I would have to use it again. It works, but it's annoying when it fails. Was hoping for something cleaner than that.
I bought the phone imagining that the 4GB could be used for app and the data would go on SD..
Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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Yea you can swap mounts to use the SD card as the second partition. It's around here somewhere, do a search for swapping internal / external mount points
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it seems all of these solution (including link2sd) isn't permenant and would screw up (and it did) after rom update. Link2sd is kinda pointless when it doesn't move the data to the external sd, and mounting scripts would just run into problems when ROM's updated.
There doesn't seem to be a very clean solution for this.. Would have been nicer if they just relied on extSD for storage.. why bother with the SD slot when you store things internally by default?
kinda frustrating really.
Well there's 4gb unformatted, which means 10% less afterwards, so 3.6gb but the system needs space, so there's another chunk gone and then system apps and whatnots are using space, as does cache etc. So we get about 2.5gb usable to us, then we install gapps and the other basics and have about 2gb left.
with a camera app that now allows storage to external, it gets a lot easier. Move big apps to external SD as with music and downloads. I did have some success with the script that swaps internal/external, but now I just get by with the occasional cleanout.
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That would be awesome if we could combine the two partitions into one and use a SD as the second. Unfortunately Samsung crippled our phones with their wacky partitions.
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nothing is crippled, nothing is stolen, missing, or deceptive. buy a 32Gb microsd card and enjoy it.
if you applications don't use sdcard or have the option to, page the developer to change it.
all my apps, backups, videos, pictures, gpx's, waypoints, offline maps, - everything - is on my sdcard. it works fine.