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[REQ] Galaxy S 4G (Vibrant 4G) section

So it seems with me finding and leaking out builds pertaining to the Vibrant 4G, as well as ODIN and a PIT file for the Vibrant 4G, there needs to be a section for this phone.
The phone will be released Feb 23rd.
Vibrant users are starting to get confused with the 4G stuff I have been posting in the 3G Dev section.
Can we go ahead and get a 4G section created?
And, if you guys need a mod for it, I'd be open to it.

i second that
i like the Vibrant 4G MODs and leaks, but it is starting to get confusing as some stuff might work for regular Vibrant and some stuff may not...there should definitely be another section for the Vibrant 4G

krylon360 said:
So it seems with me finding and leaking out builds pertaining to the Vibrant 4G, as well as ODIN and a PIT file for the Vibrant 4G, there needs to be a section for this phone.
The phone will be released Feb 23rd.
Vibrant users are starting to get confused with the 4G stuff I have been posting in the 3G Dev section.
Can we go ahead and get a 4G section created?
And, if you guys need a mod for it, I'd be open to it.
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+1
This really needs to be done ASAP. I don't want to think about what the Vibrant forums will turn into if Vibrant plus/4G forums aren't created before the official launch.

yeah asap cause noobs flash 4g kernels and roms on 3g phones

Throwing my vote in here as well.
Also, it could be another development board within the Vibrant section, I don't see the need for a whole new set of 4+ boards for this variant as the accessories and apps will be the same, but certainly a separate development board as all the ROMs, modems, kernels will always be different from the existing Vibrant.
The phones are close enough that flashing a Vibrant ROM on the Galaxy 4G will tempbrick/brick it and vice-versa.
Will someone please think of the newbs!

jonsoini said:
Throwing my vote in here as well.
Also, it could be another development board within the Vibrant section, I don't see the need for a whole new set of 4+ boards for this variant as the accessories and apps will be the same, but certainly a separate development board as all the ROMs, modems, kernels will always be different from the existing Vibrant.
The phones are close enough that flashing a Vibrant ROM on the Galaxy 4G will tempbrick/brick it and vice-versa.
Will someone please think of the newbs!
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You will also face the fact that you will not get any data if the flash is successful, thus, making you restore a backup

Anyone know accurate specs on this thing? So many rumors and mixed information. I even seen someone say it was going to come stock with honeycomb which i know is hogwash.

yeah, i'm all for a new section. I hadn't visited the forums in a while and was a bit confused by all this 4G talk.

TherealJinyu said:
Anyone know accurate specs on this thing? So many rumors and mixed information. I even seen someone say it was going to come stock with honeycomb which i know is hogwash.
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2.2.1 1gb internal. 16gb external sd
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Definitely in favor of a separate thread as well. With all the people that don't know what they're doing downloading and attempting to flash the first file they see, it's bound to create even more trouble in the forum if they're allowed to remain together.

Please do, I like the idea of having them separate but together. They will share alot just not most software.
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+1
Count my vote in. It's better to have seperate sections for both phones. They're both different in some ways anyway.

Admins, any update to this?

there are no official words yet
but we are considering options
my guess is that it might come down to a merger
but if lucky we might get a whole stand alone section

Thanks AllGamer.
I just don't want anyone to further complain. I am holding onto the rest of the 4G files, and any more I happen to come across until the section is created.

Admins/Mods,
Has there been any new updates to this request?

krylon360 said:
Admins/Mods,
Has there been any new updates to this request?
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please... a new section for this device would be awesome. We need a Galaxy S 4G section soon... this phone drops in less than a week.

Also Krylon360 do you think we will see much development for this device?

mavictb said:
Also Krylon360 do you think we will see much development for this device?
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lets just say, I'm not saying a word.

krylon360 said:
lets just say, I'm not saying a word.
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lol say no more =)

Nexus S 4G forum

when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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ksweat2292 said:
when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!

derekwilkinson said:
I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!
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they have forums for phones that arent even released its ridiculous
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sorry wrong thread

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I agree. Too easy for a newb to brick their phone. Just left Tmo and my N1 for Sprint. GO TO HELL AT& T!

When the cdma Hero first came out we at least had a sub-form dedicated to it until the number of posts grew and its own form was justified.

Seeing as all roms will need to be modified to work with the NS4G, a new forum should be created. Mods need to quit dragging their feet on this.
-Ash-

I agree that the gsm and cdma needs their own forum sections. I won't demand anything from the mods because I used to be one and have an idea on what they in through. I agree that newbs and others might accidentally flash the wrong thing and hose their phone. I am very cautious about flashing anything with this phone because of some of the horror stories i've read. There are some things that I am interested in messing with but there's nothing in the description that says which ones it does and doesn't work with. OP maybe you could change the title of this thread to something to do with requesting a separate ns4g section to reduce the confusion and people messing with the wrong flashes.
+10!
That might catch the attention of a moderator more.

who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.

zephiK said:
who cares about the newbs.
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Nice.
10char...

To try and make things a little more organized I also made a Reference thread for the Nexus S 4G peeps here

zephiK said:
who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.
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You were a newb once too there, big shooter. Take it easy.

^ +1
well said

Talking about splitting the whatever. I forgot where the thread was that had a link to a google developer discussion page. I remember netarchy was saying something about it too. Anyways, there's two separate "versions" of the nexus software. Crespo and crespo4g. It was mentioned that because of gsm and cdma the two can't be merged together (for now).

Im trying to figure out where in the system files the OS looks for GSM or CDMA. The roms for nexus s will boot. No service tho. Probably really complicated in Services.jar
Uncle Jimmy says hello

ok the g2 and the dz share the same everything, the radios can be flashed willy nilly..

3G super slow (0.05Mbps) after loading ROM

I wanted to try and take advantage of the HUSPA in my area and flashed the Cognition ROM on my phone. It went perfect on the first time and the ROM worked perfect except my 3G has slowed down to below 56k modem speeds. Since then I tried going back to stock 2.1, stock 2.2, and tried other modems and nothing has fixed my issue. My phone is out of warranty so I am stuck.
Does anyone have any ideas? I am no Android expert, so please keep that in mind in replies.
Thanks,
-B

There's a Cognition sticky in the Q&A subforum where questions like this should go instead of starting new threads in the wrong forum. Please use the sticky.

Oops? I don't see a move button.
I am also not sure the issue this is related to the ROM specifically. That's why I posted here.
*Moderator please move if applicable. *

beezoboy said:
Oops? I don't see a move button.
I am also not sure the issue this is related to the ROM specifically. That's why I posted here.
*Moderator please move if applicable. *
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If you don't think it's a cog problem then still post in q&a. That stands for question and answer.

It is specifically a cog question. It is because cog uses official kb1 firmware as a base which means att says no HSUPA for you. You can still use cog you just need to change the kernel and modem to an i9000 and then speed galore. While your at it switch to a i9000 rom because at that point it just makes sense.
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If you guys put as much energy into *actually answering* questions as you do into telling people they were posting in the wrong area, I bet this forum would be twice as productive.
And. . . thanks for the warm welcome!
-B

beezoboy said:
If you guys put as much energy into *actually answering* questions as you do into telling people they were posting in the wrong area, I bet this forum would be twice as productive.
And. . . thanks for the warm welcome!
-B
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If newbies would put half as much effort into reading the forum rules and actually searching and looking around the forum before starting new threads we'd have more time to spend helping people instead of constantly educating them on standard forum etiquette.
Now, if any of us were being paid to be here to help others we would probably be a bit more tolerant, but since we are all just volunteers I think we have a right to try and keep the forum as tidy as possible.

Mine was doing the same thing out of the blue. It was fine but started being REALLY slow after flashing Cognition. A fresh flash after master clear fixed it for me.

I don't get paid to be polite to a stranger either, but I try to do it out of common courtesy. This isn't an exclusive club, and its not my first posting in a forum. I've searched and read stickies.
Why don't you let the moderators moderate.
Go stir another pot, thread closed.
-B

beezoboy said:
I don't get paid to be polite to a stranger either, but I try to do it out of common courtesy. This isn't an exclusive club, and its not my first posting in a forum. I've searched and read stickies.
Why don't you let the moderators moderate.
Go stir another pot, thread closed.
-B
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Mr. Thin Skin, nobody was rude to you. I've even tried to be humorous in my responses, but it appears the abrasive one is you. I have the full support of the mods in what I do here, so take your complaints to them. And you don't get to close a thread, only a mod can you arrogant *****.

If you had "full support" then why aren't you a mod? For real, I'm pretty sick of the senior people here giving answers like this. If you don't want to help, don't help, they'll flounder on their own. I know it sucks to be asked the same question over and over, but it happens. We need to either ignore it, and let the thread die, or help, imo. Who gives a crap if there are questions in General? Again, IMO, there shouldn't be 2 separate forums, because no one gets it, there should be General, Accessories, Development, and Themes and Apps.
Miami_Son said:
Mr. Thin Skin, nobody was rude to you. I've even tried to be humorous in my responses, but it appears the abrasive one is you. I have the full support of the mods in what I do here, so take your complaints to them. And you don't get to close a thread, only a mod can you arrogant *****.
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I thought I answered your question very directly. Only iphone 4 users get access to HSUPA with att branded phones. Official att captivate phones don't. Switch your kernel and modem and you'll be fine.
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It's common courtesy to post in the correct area and research before starting a thread.

[POLL] Which radio is most reliable for you?

Feel free to discuss your location in the comments as well, as that can have an effect.
taylor.fowler said:
I've got a map set up in the flashable radios thread to help track this sort of thing by region:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
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correct me if i'm wrong
but I'm pretty sure the Stock Rogers radio is the same as the 1.73 ATT one.
(stock rogers ROM is 1.73 base, so It should be 1.73 Radio as well.)

loneBoat said:
Move this to General if that's a better place for it. Feel free to discuss your location in the comments as well, as that can have an effect.
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I've got a map set up in the flashable radios thread to help track this sort of thing by region:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
It might be a little more effective than a poll, since this is a largely location based issue. (Some radios perform better than others depending on region)

no sure if serious but you put poll ....

Just going to leave this right here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673114

taylor.fowler said:
I've got a map set up in the flashable radios thread to help track this sort of thing by region:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
It might be a little more effective than a poll, since this is a largely location based issue. (Some radios perform better than others depending on region)
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Yup, "best" radio is usually geographic more than anything. So doing a poll like this, that doesn't take location into account is pretty much meaningless.
And this doesn't belong in Development.

designgears said:
Just going to leave this right here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673114
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Was your point that it's a redundant thread or that it doesn't belong in DEV? I considered both points, but went ahead and posted since (1) it's a little different from taylor's thread since it's a poll instead of a map and (2) I think it's dev related since radios can be a big issue with some ROMs.
Anyway, some mods want to chime in? If it's inappropriate, go ahead and move it. I'm not trying to clutter up the forum. Just thought it might be useful even though it's not broken down by region. (and the poll's already had several responses, so at least SOME other people seem to agree)
EDIT: dg I tried to thank you to show I'm not just trying to be argumentative - but I already used all my thanks for the day!!

me either, but pointing out the rules of the section. If it has nothing to with development, it should be in general. Think Tanks are fine, people are working on different ideas that eventual lead to root/bl unlock/s-off...
This is just a voting thread about modems, and modem will differ vastly depending on your location, so a popularity contests for modems is useless, you just have to try them and find one that suits your situation.
just my 2 cents.

loneBoat said:
I think it's dev related since radios can be a big issue with some ROMs.
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This is really just a discussion about radios, so it belongs in General. It only belongs in here if its a tool, ROM, radio. Particularly one that you developed. If you are not a developer, you should probably not create new threads here.

designgears said:
me either, but pointing out the rules of the section. If it has nothing to with development, it should be in general. Think Tanks are fine, people are working on different ideas that eventual lead to root/bl unlock/s-off...
This is just a voting thread about modems, and modem will differ vastly depending on your location, so a popularity contests for modems is useless, you just have to try them and find one that suits your situation.
just my 2 cents.
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...And then drop a marker on my shared map with your info so the community can benefit

Since this is a generalized thread (with poll) about radios, it does belong in the General section. Dont get me wrong though, this is a good idea so that people can quickly glance and see what others are using and then look at the map for their area.

Alright - I'm cool with it moving. Can I move it myself? Or does a MOD have to do it?
EDIT - Well I feel dumb. It had already been moved when I posted that.

loneBoat said:
Alright - I'm cool with it moving. Can I move it myself? Or does a MOD have to do it?
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Already moved. Red5 is a MOD. Do you wanna pop a link in the OP to my map, too? It would be good to get as much data as possible in there.
With our powers combined, we can actually get some useful info, i think.

taylor.fowler said:
Already moved. Red5 is a MOD. Do you wanna pop a link in the OP to my map, too? It would be good to get as much data as possible in there.
With our powers combined, we can actually get some useful info, i think.
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Done, but I get 60% of the profits.

The best radio is the one which works best for your device in your area
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taylor.fowler said:
Already moved. Red5 is a MOD. Do you wanna pop a link in the OP to my map, too? It would be good to get as much data as possible in there.
With our powers combined, we can actually get some useful info, i think.
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Captain Planet is gonna be pissed you stole his trademark catch phrase.

Why so many modems files?

Hopefully this isn't a foolish question. Why are there do many modem files exist per android phone? especially when each phone only gets 1 or 2 firmware updates?

drago10029 said:
Hopefully this isn't a foolish question. Why are there do many modem files exist per android phone? especially when each phone only gets 1 or 2 firmware updates?
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Ok for example we have 2 carriers and each of them release 2 updates + 1 factory rom for each carrier.
Each carrier writes modem code designed with their specific network and politics in mind.
The modem is a software as any and it is'nt perfect from start, so they update it with the rom with various fixes & optimisations.
Sometimes the modem is "perfect" but the rom update needs code to be changed/added to the modem..
This adds upp to 6 modems already,.
You should read all the stickies before doing anything more.
Because they are there to explain things and to help you.
And when you understand things you are confident about what you're doing.

lingowistico said:
Ok for example we have 2 carriers and each of them release 2 updates + 1 factory rom for each carrier.
Each carrier writes modem code designed with their specific network and politics in mind.
The modem is a software as any and it is'nt perfect from start, so they update it with the rom with various fixes & optimisations.
Sometimes the modem is "perfect" but the rom update needs code to be changed/added to the modem..
This adds upp to 6 modems already,.
You should read all the stickies before doing anything more.
Because they are there to explain things and to help you.
And when you understand things you are confident about what you're doing.
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That makes sense, thanks. Was just curious about that.
Also is the "you should read the stickies....." thing for me or is that your signature? lol

Its because of the ICS leaks and jb leaked ROMs that weren't final
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drago10029 said:
That makes sense, thanks. Was just curious about that.
Also is the "you should read the stickies....." thing for me or is that your signature? lol
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The stickies lecture was for you my friend. There's a thread for basic questions called something like ask anything thread
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Its because of the ICS leaks and jb leaked ROMs that weren't final
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Not really.

Not really what? Lf5 jk4 radios came from where exactly???
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lingowistico said:
The stickies lecture was for you my friend. There's a thread for basic questions called something like ask anything thread
Not really.
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I've actually read the stickies, some more than once. Don't what you're talking about, what i've found close to what you're describing is called "common questions answered here" and my question was not answered there.
Before any flaming happens, I use google, xda and the suggested threads before posting stuff just to be thorough.
Also, aren't questions like this meant for this section? lol

drago10029 said:
I've actually read the stickies, some more than once. Don't what you're talking about, what i've found close to what you're describing is called "common questions answered here" and my question was not answered there.
Before any flaming happens, I use google, xda and the suggested threads before posting stuff just to be thorough.
Also, aren't questions like this meant for this section? lol
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That's cool, good job on the reading and the searching
I'm not discussing what this section is for, I simply suggested that your question is more suitable for the The official ask anything thread-Ask away!.
holeindalip said:
Not really what? Lf5 jk4 radios came from where exactly???
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Your answer to ops question of why there are "so many" modems was: because of leaks.
So I say, not really. Obviously there are more official radios than leaked ones.

lingowistico said:
That's cool, good job on the reading and the searching
I'm not discussing what this section is for, I simply suggested that your question is more suitable for the The official ask anything thread-Ask away!.
Your answer to ops question of why there are "so many" modems was: because of leaks.
So I say, not really. Obviously there are more official radios than leaked ones.
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Ok, cool and I agree that would be a better place since seems like people have eyes on it. Also that should be stickied, didn't even know it existed until now. and I know I know, search is my friend. but c'mon.. some of these threads are really buried! lol

drago10029 said:
Ok, cool and I agree that would be a better place since seems like people have eyes on it. Also that should be stickied, didn't even know it existed until now. and I know I know, search is my friend. but c'mon.. some of these threads are really buried! lol
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Take the Google search course.
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