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Looks like we can merge with the Desire Hd forum

With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..

Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..

I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..

yes please merge us!

I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?

I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.

you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?

bkeaver said:
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.

if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...

Masacrk said:
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.

yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out

Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.

there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?

chocodough said:
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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laxwillsch said:
Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.

i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...

Nexus S 4G forum

when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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ksweat2292 said:
when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!

derekwilkinson said:
I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!
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they have forums for phones that arent even released its ridiculous
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sorry wrong thread

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I agree. Too easy for a newb to brick their phone. Just left Tmo and my N1 for Sprint. GO TO HELL AT& T!

When the cdma Hero first came out we at least had a sub-form dedicated to it until the number of posts grew and its own form was justified.

Seeing as all roms will need to be modified to work with the NS4G, a new forum should be created. Mods need to quit dragging their feet on this.
-Ash-

I agree that the gsm and cdma needs their own forum sections. I won't demand anything from the mods because I used to be one and have an idea on what they in through. I agree that newbs and others might accidentally flash the wrong thing and hose their phone. I am very cautious about flashing anything with this phone because of some of the horror stories i've read. There are some things that I am interested in messing with but there's nothing in the description that says which ones it does and doesn't work with. OP maybe you could change the title of this thread to something to do with requesting a separate ns4g section to reduce the confusion and people messing with the wrong flashes.
+10!
That might catch the attention of a moderator more.

who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.

zephiK said:
who cares about the newbs.
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Nice.
10char...

To try and make things a little more organized I also made a Reference thread for the Nexus S 4G peeps here

zephiK said:
who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.
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You were a newb once too there, big shooter. Take it easy.

^ +1
well said

Talking about splitting the whatever. I forgot where the thread was that had a link to a google developer discussion page. I remember netarchy was saying something about it too. Anyways, there's two separate "versions" of the nexus software. Crespo and crespo4g. It was mentioned that because of gsm and cdma the two can't be merged together (for now).

Im trying to figure out where in the system files the OS looks for GSM or CDMA. The roms for nexus s will boot. No service tho. Probably really complicated in Services.jar
Uncle Jimmy says hello

ok the g2 and the dz share the same everything, the radios can be flashed willy nilly..

[Q] Can Someone Confirm My Phones Back To Stock To Be Returned

I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.

im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.

wrong section .. should have asked in general but download root checker if it says no root then you are fine

richielasalsa said:
wrong section .. should have asked in general but download root checker if it says no root then you are fine
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I don't think you read my post completely. I know I am not rooted. I do have some knowledge about what to do or I wouldn't be messing with a phone, this was going to be my main phone and I kept my Vibrant to play with and learn.
I was only asking about the rom because I didn't know what rom was on the phone when purchased.

xaocon said:
im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.
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Thank you so much, I will foll.ow the thread. I am already removing all signs of root. I was just concerned about the rom version.

DjIsD said:
I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.
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Well since this KD1 Rom is a t-mobile update, I don't think you'll have any issues returning it. I would unroot the phone though (if is rooted). I'm not an expert; I'm like on the same boat as you are which is learning all this great stuff, but would t-mobile be able to tell if you were rooted once? not really sure.

xaocon said:
im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.
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Thanks. I have that file so I am good shape.

makavelicruz said:
Well since this KD1 Rom is a t-mobile update, I don't think you'll have any issues returning it. I would unroot the phone though (if is rooted). I'm not an expert; I'm like on the same boat as you are which is learning all this great stuff, but would t-mobile be able to tell if you were rooted once? not really sure.
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Thanks for the help. I removed all signs of root so after I swap out the 32 card for the 16 finish getting that straight I should be in good shape.
You might know this, where was the movie on the phone? I zipped it and got off right away so I don't even remember. If you know that would be great.

DjIsD said:
Thank you so much, I will foll.ow the thread. I am already removing all signs of root. I was just concerned about the rom version.
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#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.

DjIsD said:
I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.
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What problems were you having with it anyhow?
It sounds like you must have been trying to make modifications to it that are either untested or not designed to work properly with the SGS4G.
I know alot of people call it the Vibrant 4G but it's not the same, there are alot of differences with it, so it's easy for someone with less experience to mess it up. Not saying you don't have experience, but it sounds like you breeze through phones quicker than the flick of a light switch.

joedeveloper said:
#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.
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I thought you might have helped being that it was your thread i got the rom from and I asked the question there, sent you a pm but this is the last day to return (typing while files are moving from one sd to the other). Wrong again, you seemed to be one of the ones actually developing something for this phone and not wasting time to criticize people. Glad to be returning the phone and returning to the Vibrant forum.
People should do what I'm about to before buying a phone they want to mess with and that is check out these forums what's going with the development and if there are an overwhelming amount of negativity. And I know that's what some of you did, just thought I'd save someone the time of posting it.
Once again I am learning as I'm sure some others out there are too.

joedeveloper said:
What problems were you having with it anyhow?
It sounds like you must have been trying to make modifications to it that are either untested or not designed to work properly with the SGS4G.
I know alot of people call it the Vibrant 4G but it's not the same, there are alot of differences with it, so it's easy for someone with less experience to mess it up. Not saying you don't have experience, but it sounds like you breeze through phones quicker than the flick of a light switch.
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I have 2 phones the one I am exchanging (returning) the Sam T959V Galaxy S 4 and the Sam T959 Vibrant. That's at least how it's printed on the boxes.
I have not done anything from the Vibrant forum on the Galaxy S 4g phone. I flashed the rom from the thread you posted and went from root to no root. All SU apps wouldn't even open because what was needed wasn't in the needed directory(s).
All's good. Thanks.

DjIsD said:
I thought you might have helped being that it was your thread i got the rom from and I asked the question there, sent you a pm but this is the last day to return (typing while files are moving from one sd to the other). Wrong again, you seemed to be one of the ones actually developing something for this phone and not wasting time to criticize people. Glad to be returning the phone and returning to the Vibrant forum.
People should do what I'm about to before buying a phone they want to mess with and that is check out these forums what's going with the development and if there are an overwhelming amount of negativity. And I know that's what some of you did, just thought I'd save someone the time of posting it.
Once again I am learning as I'm sure some others out there are too.
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It honestly doesn't have much to do with negativity.
More so with forum etiquette. I'm not trying to be rude to you, I merely telling you, no matter how much you post "Don't flame me" "don't be negative"...
If you post in the wrong forum anywhere on XDA, you're gonna get a negative response. That's a given not specific to this section.
I didn't see your post over there, until just now. Again cross posting is a no no, I understand you needed and answer. The best place for that would have been the general forum. not the development forum. It clearly says General Q&A section.
You can return the phone, I love my SGS4G and it works great. It seems like your mixing the two issues. Other than a few people on here, the majority get along just fine with no issues.

DjIsD said:
I have 2 phones the one I am exchanging (returning) the Sam T959V Galaxy S 4 and the Sam T959 Vibrant. That's at least how it's printed on the boxes.
I have not done anything from the Vibrant forum on the Galaxy S 4g phone. I flashed the rom from the thread you posted and went from root to no root. All SU apps wouldn't even open because what was needed wasn't in the needed directory(s).
All's good. Thanks.
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After checking your posts it does appear you were doing some SD card swapping and what not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13410120#post13410120
"The thing is, is that I also have the vibrant galaxy s 4g and was using the 16gb sd for both until my 32 came in and realized, not a good idea. So until the 32 came in I decided to just work on this phone but wanted to get any signs of the 4g off this phone so was cleaning it up and now here I am....."
also you said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9788716#post9788716
"I won't repeat what I already posted but have gone though over 103 phones (unfortunately, kids) in one year about 90% smart phones."
So if you have gone through 103 phones in one year, than either you're extremely picky, or you just like new phones.
Either way I don't fault you, but don't bag on this forum because you don't know the right section to post in, and you haven't even posted for help regarding the "issues" with your SGS4G.

joedeveloper said:
After checking your posts it does appear you were doing some SD card swapping and what not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13410120#post13410120
"The thing is, is that I also have the vibrant galaxy s 4g and was using the 16gb sd for both until my 32 came in and realized, not a good idea. So until the 32 came in I decided to just work on this phone but wanted to get any signs of the 4g off this phone so was cleaning it up and now here I am....."
also you said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9788716#post9788716
"I won't repeat what I already posted but have gone though over 103 phones (unfortunately, kids) in one year about 90% smart phones."
So if you have gone through 103 phones in one year, than either you're extremely picky, or you just like new phones.
Either way I don't fault you, but don't bag on this forum because you don't know the right section to post in, and you haven't even posted for help regarding the "issues" with your SGS4G.
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Didn't have a problem with the cards and don't have a problem with the phone either so I didn't go over to the threads you posted. I have the sd card that came with the phone and the 32 as well as a 16 for the T959. Use my computer a lot to transfer files and have multiple directories to keep it all separate. No problem there.
If I hadn't bought it after the T959 I am sure I would be keeping it as you are. The amount of development here on XDA is great and I didn't realize that the 2nd memory card (the internal on the T959) that is used like a 2nd sd card but at the same time like the internal memory on all the other phones was removed on the SGS4G. Became spoiled with that as well as the builds on the T959 for themes, mods, roms, etc. Don't mean to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.
You've answered all my questions, thank you and I will contact the correct person letting them know question answered, posted in wrong forum (and multiple times, won't forget that) so this thread can be removed or however they handle the errors (or maybe I'm the first).

Who told you you have 20 days? Standard is 14 for returns
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DjIsD said:
Didn't have a problem with the cards and don't have a problem with the phone either so I didn't go over to the threads you posted. I have the sd card that came with the phone and the 32 as well as a 16 for the T959. Use my computer a lot to transfer files and have multiple directories to keep it all separate. No problem there.
If I hadn't bought it after the T959 I am sure I would be keeping it as you are. The amount of development here on XDA is great and I didn't realize that the 2nd memory card (the internal on the T959) that is used like a 2nd sd card but at the same time like the internal memory on all the other phones was removed on the SGS4G. Became spoiled with that as well as the builds on the T959 for themes, mods, roms, etc. Don't mean to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.
You've answered all my questions, thank you and I will contact the correct person letting them know question answered, posted in wrong forum (and multiple times, won't forget that) so this thread can be removed or however they handle the errors (or maybe I'm the first).
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Yeah I hear you. I came from a G1 so it was an upgrade. Not much of an upgrade for a vibrant user.
The threads I posted were actually quotes from posts that you had posted on other forums indicating you had issues, but not in the SGS4G forums, in the vibrant forums.
Glad you have no issues with it. No harm done, just to avoid this always check which forum your posting in and try to avoid cross posting.
If I helped lol feel free to click the "Thanks" button.

mbernusg said:
Who told you you have 20 days? Standard is 14 for returns
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T-Mobile customer service and I called the store, but I have been so side tracked I didn't even there. Tomorrow is my 20th day technically and just noticed I had a lock screen on it the phone I need to get off so maybe I'll just keep this too and try and make some changes to it to make it fun.
Customer service has been wrong before, but I have always worked things out with them. Been with them since 2000 and am down to 5 lines from 7 and a data line so they have been pretty good but then again I guess policy is policy. Then again I do know that customer service (return by mail) was up to 30 days and the store was way shorter. I am surprised it was 20.

Yeah.. tenure does mean something with the company.. one of the great things a out tmo
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You'd be suprised.. a mom came into the store with a bootlooped mytouch4g with. Cyanogenmod boot animation and wanted a warranty exchange.. I kind of loled and turned her away
joedeveloper said:
#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.
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Who thinks the Nexus S and Nexus S 4G should have separate forums?

I personally think they should - too easy to pick a ROM from the wrong phone and brick your shiny toy!

At the very least a subforum within the Nexus umbrella

There's like 12 threads about this now.
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I hate to participate and bump this to the top but - enough of these idiotic threads. A 4G subforum is unneeded

tailsthecat3 said:
I hate to participate and bump this to the top but - enough of these idiotic threads. A 4G subforum is unneeded
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That's your opinion, which may not reflect that of others!

subthread needed!
I vote FOR a separate thread or subthread...would make it much easier as they are NOT the same phone and require different ROMs.

Is it REALLY REALLY that hard to just put [CDMA] or [NS4G] in front of the ROM that is for the 4G only? Are we really THAT lazy that we need a forum so we don't have to spend 5-10 seconds reading?
I realize that the dev's have been putting something in front, I'm just stating that it's easy and doesn't require a separate section if that standard is followed.

maybe always using tag in thread subject. just for sure..

If the touch pro 2 has separate sections, than the nexus s should and for the same reason which is obvious. Its a no brain-er..
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I'm all for a separate section. Trusting that all posts would contain [NS4G] or [CDMA] is wishfull thinking. Make a separate section and the problem is solved.
It is a different phone after all..

maconu said:
I'm all for a separate section. Trusting that all posts would contain [NS4G] or [CDMA] is wishfull thinking. Make a separate section and the problem is solved.
It is a different phone after all..
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tailsthecat3 said:
I hate to participate and bump this to the top but - enough of these idiotic threads. A 4G subforum is unneeded
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+1 the only section that is different is the Developer forums. Everything else is the same, if anything you'd be losing a large % of the Nexus community to your own forum.
Nexus S: Everybody else except Sprint.
Nexus S 4G: Sprint only.
You do the math. World vs. Sprint 4G
Jeez... its like the civil war all over where they want to have their own territory and break from the union.
It's also even possible that ROMs could have dual support for NS and NS4G. Relax. Just give it time.
We Nexus S users (non-4G) aren't complaining about NS4G ROMs going up on the Developer section. We're one big happy family, stop trying to be special and moving onto your own section where you're going to isolate the community in terms of NS General/NS Q&A/NS Apps&Themes and only have small number of users where you eventually just end up coming back here because your "NS4G" forum doesn't have as much people.

I agree with zephiK.
There should be at least a separate developer forum. Everything else is pretty much the same.

zephiK said:
It's also even possible that ROMs could have dual support for NS and NS4G. Relax. Just give it time.
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It is also possible that the sun will rise in the west. So far, it hasn't.
Can you name any roms that work for both? I have yet to find one. Is this just due to radios or is this wimax related? If it's just radios, getting every dev to package them separately seems a logical choice, but unrealistic considering.
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oh for the love of god!!
thats just pure lazynes!!!
go read what the op/rom developer says in the description of the rom.
dont go the lazy rout and just push it on your nexus.
your the problem! not the forum.
your just to lazy to READ!
i really like allot of people here.
but these thing's and such stupid argument's/questions/opinions are what pisses me off.
stop being lazy!
dont like how XDA is? go make your own forum.
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I personally think they should - too easy to pick a ROM from the wrong phone and brick your shiny toy!
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[KERNEL]Netarchy Nexus for NS + NS4G (15-May-2011) Stable: 1.3.0.12 Testing: 1.3.1
not a rom,but it is a kernel that supports both.
rougegoat said:
It is also possible that the sun will rise in the west. So far, it hasn't.
Can you name any roms that work for both? I have yet to find one. Is this just due to radios or is this wimax related? If it's just radios, getting every dev to package them separately seems a logical choice, but unrealistic considering.
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From my standpoint as a relatively newer user, I'd have to agree that separating this into sub-forums would be much easier to follow than the current layout especially on XDA Mobile.

I voted yes but...
I would say the TAG's would make it more searchable/sortable. If the goal of XDA staff is to keep all of us "NexSicans" under one happy roof this would be the fastest and easiest routes.
I have mod/admin experience on another unrelated forum and I can tell you these guys have a big job moderating already, so adding a sub section and finding harmony is not a fast and easy decision. So I can appreciate whatever decision you can all agree on to give your staff some relief.
From the Sprint users point of view, we would feel really welcomed to the family if the current Nexus S forum would also include the 4G title.

Or people could just read. Crazy I know. No subforum needed.
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Yep no need IMO

rougegoat said:
It is also possible that the sun will rise in the west. So far, it hasn't.
Can you name any roms that work for both? I have yet to find one. Is this just due to radios or is this wimax related? If it's just radios, getting every dev to package them separately seems a logical choice, but unrealistic considering.
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No body has even said the sun will rise in the west. Did I ever say any ROMs are both compatible at this given time? No. Is it possible? Maybe. It's too early to draw conclusions but koush is doing work on getting CM7 to work for the NS4G.
Sorry but regardless of whatever forum you're on for XDA. Flashing a ROM is to the user's responsibility, not the OP. There's no body to blame but yourselves.
I still stick by my point about NS4G and NS. I don't understand why you want to separate the community. The analogy for the "Civil War" about the Union & Confederacy fits perfectly. Don't know why you want to separate apart. It takes a few seconds to read if its a NS and NS4G ROM.

Nexus S 4G DEV Sub Forum?

YOu think its possible if we can split up the Nexus S DEV section, its really getting littered with ROMs (which is good) but its now a bit confusing to see all the different ROMs mixed up. Not that that its HARD to to really distinguish which ROM goes to which device, its more annoying than anything.
Anyone agree? maybe get a new sub forum for the NS4G, they are really 2 totally different devices if you think about it

i think its fine, i just think the titles need to be changed, have the phone tag all the way to the left to make it easier to scroll by

I say no. I have had a lot of help from fellow NS owners some things are the same. Just read the OP before flashing. Or test on your own to see if new (2.3.4) roms work with your device. And as always have a good backup.

Looks like the Admins agreed. I didnt have ANY issues with distinguishing 4g from NS ROMs, my thing was the clutter aspect

Agreed and thank you to the admins.
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New Nexus S 4g android development section created!