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Updating inspire

Some one tell me how to update to the picture attached without loosing my current root
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You have to have a pretty-much rock-stock ROM for this update to work. You could just install attn1's version of the stock ROM with this update already applied, then properly rooted and packaged for installation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
After installing, the update screen will show that you are up to date.

nickdixon14 said:
Some one tell me how to update to the picture attached without loosing my current root
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Since Gene has graciously answered your question, may I remind you that this is one of the most common questions asked, over and over. Please do a little searching first.
Thanks!

See I don't won't to have to go back to stock or any of thst stuff why can't I just flash it in hboot
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nickdixon14 said:
See I don't won't to have to go back to stock or any of thst stuff why can't I just flash it in hboot
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That is how flash attn1 rom. I think you might have misunderstood. He meant that you could go back to stock stock and apply it. Because if your rooted it will fail to install OR. Apply attn1 rom.
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Attn1's ROM is flashed in hboot because it includes a radio. It is the ota update your phone is trying to get, but with root. He also has one in that same thread with sideloading enabled.
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i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.

jc2470 said:
i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.
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its probably because to newer users, its a little intimidating to go thru many posts and threads, and they also know some info could be outdated. Maybe on the site, there should be an official, updated "how to" glossary or wiki.

jc2470 said:
i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick.
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I'll tell you why....
Because the question was already answered for one thing.
It's also forum rules, and I've seen it mentioned by Mods a million times.
Community moderation...I let people know in the hopes of breaking a habit before it starts: posting a new thread for every single question that crosses their mind, and, eventually, expect to be given answers to everything, getting even more reluctant to do the "work" of finding answers and learning about their phones on their own.
Next thing you know, we're up to our necks in duplicate posts. Then, NOBODY will want to answer ANYTHING, because they have to wade through 4 tons of duplicate crap, and it ain't worth it.
How hard is it to Google "inspire OTA update root" ?

Scott_S said:
I'll tell you why....
Because the question was already answered for one thing.
It's also forum rules, and I've seen it mentioned by Mods a million times.
Community moderation...I let people know in the hopes of breaking a habit before it starts: posting a new thread for every single question that crosses their mind, and, eventually, expect to be given answers to everything, getting even more reluctant to do the "work" of finding answers and learning about their phones on their own.
Next thing you know, we're up to our necks in duplicate posts. Then, NOBODY will want to answer ANYTHING, because they have to wade through 4 tons of duplicate crap, and it ain't worth it.
How hard is it to Google "inspire OTA update root" ?
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As to the last question: speaking for myself, I am tempted to just ask question, not because I can't effin search, but some of my questions, one has to weed through all manner of material on multiple threads, some pertinent, some not, since February to ascertain "the" answer. This is all well and good and maybe an exercise in disciple, like back in school or something, but maybe some of us just get impatient in an effort to save time. That said, I am fully on board with the forum rules, because da rules are da rules, and this is where one has to come for this sort of stuff :-D.

meiguoguizi said:
As to the last question: speaking for myself, I am tempted to just ask question, not because I can't effin search, but some of my questions, one has to weed through all manner of material on multiple threads, some pertinent, some not, since February to ascertain "the" answer. This is all well and good and maybe an exercise in disciple, like back in school or something, but maybe some of us just get impatient in an effort to save time. That said, I am fully on board with the forum rules, because da rules are da rules, and this is where one has to come for this sort of stuff :-D.
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Oh I agree. Everyone has questions, and everyone has opinions. There are often times wrong/incomplete answers to things, and both yes and no to the same question.
It's not necessarily easy to parse through and distill all of this stuff. But it can be done. I often times run across answers that go both ways, and that can be unsettling, especially if it involves potentially bricking a device if you get it wrong.
It's just a question of analysis, and I concede some people are more comfortable doing it than others. I guess I never expected to be handed all of the answers to basic questions.
I've always preferred searching over posting in asking a question, as it usually always provides the answer *quicker* than waiting for someone to post back an answer to the question.
Not to mention, if it turns out it was a much easier answer to find than first apparent, or that it was one's own oversight responsible for a problem that motivated the question, one can bypass getting antagonized by jerks like me.

I hear ya
Scott_S said:
Oh I agree. Everyone has questions, and everyone has opinions. There are often times wrong/incomplete answers to things, and both yes and no to the same question.
It's not necessarily easy to parse through and distill all of this stuff. But it can be done. I often times run across answers that go both ways, and that can be unsettling, especially if it involves potentially bricking a device if you get it wrong.
It's just a question of analysis, and I concede some people are more comfortable doing it than others. I guess I never expected to be handed all of the answers to basic questions.
I've always preferred searching over posting in asking a question, as it usually always provides the answer *quicker* than waiting for someone to post back an answer to the question.
Not to mention, if it turns out it was a much easier answer to find than first apparent, or that it was one's own oversight responsible for a problem that motivated the question, one can bypass getting antagonized by jerks like me.
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Just presenting another side...because I can . One side of me just want's to get things done. Another side thoroughly enjoyed the process of learning the ins and outs of my beloved now rooted device by weeding through a community forum of all things...all good!

meiguoguizi said:
Just presenting another side...because I can . One side of me just want's to get things done. Another side thoroughly enjoyed the process of learning the ins and outs of my beloved now rooted device by weeding through a community forum of all things...all good!
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Again, I agree. It really depends on the urgency of the situation. If your phone is boot-looping, it's understandable want to get the thing running again as quickly as possible.

Thank You
Scott_S said:
Again, I agree. It really depends on the urgency of the situation. If your phone is boot-looping, it's understandable want to get the thing running again as quickly as possible.
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Yes this. Exactly. 10 words.

Scott, why must you pretend to be GOD in these forums which you clearly aren't....if the guy wants to ask, let him ask...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways, so i would of done the same exact thing. don't like reading something that is redundant, then go grab the book War and Peace and entertain yourself. I am sure that by the time you are done with it, all items here would be OUTDATED and you will have no choice but to ask questions yourself, which is where i would answer you back with this:
"i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick."

gmiusa02 said:
Scott, why must you pretend to be GOD in these forums which you clearly aren't....if the guy wants to ask, let him ask...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways, so i would of done the same exact thing. don't like reading something that is redundant, then go grab the book War and Peace and entertain yourself. I am sure that by the time you are done with it, all items here would be OUTDATED and you will have no choice but to ask questions yourself, which is where i would answer you back with this:
"i really dont get why it bothers some people so much, they respond to threads saying use the search button, people ask it alot. U dont have to respond to the post to begin with, alot of people do though, and with the same effort used to say use the search button, u could have just as easily answered the question.
Best part is if u dont want to answer it because you think they were to lazy to search it gets buried pretty quick."
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I'm not pretending anything. Searching before posting is forum rules, often cited by mods. I happen to feel it's important enough to remind people, and I'm not the only one. It's called community moderation.
No, a lot of stuff does NOT get outdated. Some do, like radio flashing and not needing eng s-off, but others don't, or haven't yet and don't look like they're going to.
For example, rooting remains the same basic process as when it started. One of two methods are available, and likely there won't be any new ground-breaking discoveries, at least for a while. Maybe it will change in the future, but it hasn't yet.
Another example... Until someone makes ATT want to push their otas to rooted devices, the process by which to update one's rooted phone with those OTA updates will remain the same. Etc....
And Google works just fine, better than the built-in search function of many sites.
Saying "I can't search because search sux" is a cop-out, plain and simple.

gmiusa02 said:
...the search feature in this forum sucks anyways...
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Umm, no. At least not on the full site. If you look right above the forum frames (up, up a little more, no down, yeah, there, on the right) you'll see the search you should be using. It searches recursively from wherever you are. Forum home? Searches the whole board. Inspire home? Searches the whole Inspire board. Inspire Dev? Yep, just the dev section. It goes clear down to searching within a thread. Hardly sucky.

I have been rooted for about a month now and have flashed several custom roms but am now back at the stock rooted rom desiring the latest at&t ota update. I read earlier in this thread that because I'm already rooted the update won't install. My question is can I just flash the attn1 rom even though I rooted my device using bubby's root method?

Att.Fan1982 said:
I have been rooted for about a month now and have flashed several custom roms but am now back at the stock rooted rom desiring the latest at&t ota update. I read earlier in this thread that because I'm already rooted the update won't install. My question is can I just flash the attn1 rom even though I rooted my device using bubby's root method?
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It should work fine. All attn1's ROM needs is s-off. Bubby's give you that.

I'm not positive but I think att1 updated rooted stock rom w/sideloading is in the form of pd98img.zip file which u need to put on on your SD card but not in a folder. Then turn off fastboot in settings, power off your phone, then while holding down the vol down button push your power button. The phone should boot into hboot where it will search for the pd98img for a few seconds then ask you to update. Once it's done you can reboot & delete the file off your SD card cause it's around 300 or so mb. Once your all done with that you also might want to get the matching ril file for the new radio that's in the update which you can flash in cwr.
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[Q] Cellular South Samsung Galaxy Showcase Problem, Need help.

Ok, well I have completely jacked up my phone from where I updated using Odin..I flashed my phone through a vibrant rom or whatever and now it was in t-mobile, then I flashed it through a fasinate rom or whatever and now its in version. I am looking for the original Samsung Galaxy S Showcase rom or whatever I need to get my phone back to CS and to its orginal state. Can somebody help me?

Check your PM
And don't EVER flash ROMs for other phones.

Seriously? What is it about showcase users that they think they can flash whatever the hell they want and there won't be problems?
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I've never understood that either. Why anyone thinks they can flash ROMs for other phones is beyond me.

add144 said:
I've never understood that either. Why anyone thinks they can flash ROMs for other phones is beyond me.
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lol. sorry for the spam, but I need to get my post count up to post on dev forums.

richaoj said:
lol. sorry for the spam, but I need to get my post count up to post on dev forums.
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Please don't do that as it's very annoying. Just ask or post whatever you need to in the general forum. Same people that post in the Dev thread read and post here.

akellar said:
Please don't do that as it's very annoying. Just ask or post whatever you need to in the general forum. Same people that post in the Dev thread read and post here.
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I am not posting random ****, I thought the post was funny, so I responded as such. I shouldn't have mentioned the part about the spam but whatever.
And in response to the comment about why people install ROM's for other phones, yea it's not necessarily smart to do so, but for the most part these forums are not exactly noobie friendly . . .
I am not new to the world of linux, I have been a user of various distros on my personal machines and work servers since 2006. I am coming from the world of webOS, where I did a little development in my sparse spare time, webOS had a lot of promise, but did not have the community nor the rapid pace of development that android has, so I finally switched.
I have found that, through no intentional fault of the community members here, entry into the world of Android homebrew has been somewhat intimidating, mainly because of the terminology that you all use. I have looked, but still don't know what many of the acronyms stand for. It has a high "entry cost," which it probably should otherwise you would have every joe schmoe trying to flash their phones with various experimental roms. (well apparently they do that anyway) But perhaps a glossary of terms could be helpful somewhere for those of us that got to the party late but could still be of some help once we catch up).
And to the guy who started this thread: don't do something until you have read about it sufficiently enough to be sure that it will work. Going backwards is often alot more difficult than spending the time to do it right in the first place. I have learned this lesson the difficult way a number of times (I am not the most prudent person with stuff, i like to shoot from the hip and have shot myself in the foot a number of times)

So a glossary similar to this which is stickied in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041890

akellar said:
So a glossary similar to this which is stickied in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041890
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Yea, I'm a retard . . . just found it. I was going to edit the post before hoepefully anyone saw it . . .
doh

richaoj said:
sorry for the spam
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richaoj said:
I am not posting random ****
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I'm pretty sure if you're admitting its "spam" from the get go, that counts as random ****.
Just saying.

Originally Posted by richaoj
but for the most part these forums are not exactly noobie friendly . . .
.. don't do something until you have read about it sufficiently enough to be sure that it will work. Going backwards is often alot more difficult than spending the time to do it right in the first place.
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I kind of like the fact that these forums are not dumb down it makes the learning curve steeper but I learn more that way not just the hows but also the whys. I spent two months reading this and other forums before I flashed my first ROM. I find the things I work the hardest for I learn the best and all the information is here sometimes you just have to dig for it. IMHO like

That's the spirit! Look at you! Nub of the year!
I was the same way honestly. I was very hesitant before ever doing anything to my phone first time around.

Haha its a first with android! I am more along the lines of coding firmware for PSN and jtagging xbox 360 consoles! I am a nub at this haha

I am in the same boat
I did the same thing to my showcase with the exception that I downloaded (from a different forum) learned my lesson, a odin file that was listed for cellular south showcase and when I flashed it it turned out to be for a Tmobile vibrant and now I only get errors when the modem bin tries to load in oden. Kinda hosed at this point!
Any Ideas on this would me much appreciated!!!

You could've done permanent damage to your phone that is irreversible chief.

add144 said:
You could've done permanent damage to your phone that is irreversible chief.
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gotta love the stupid tax. The file was titled correctly just did not turn out to be what it stated. Oh well thanks anyway!

What is up with CM7 deving?

Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.

Hasn't this been discussed several times in the past two weeks? I am pretty sure it has been! It is in the works.

If it is so easy to do then why havent i seen your cm7 rom posted here yet?
and next time dont post **** like this there are like 10 of these damn threads on here.
the devs here are hard at work giving people great roms....so all these *****ing and moaning threads need to stop....if it was so f***n easy people then everyone on here would be posting roms

airfluip1 said:
Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.
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Airfluip, I hope you're trolling.

Ohhh boy are you gonna get flamed for this.
It's not as easy as you think. Vibrant and the SGS4G are very different in many aspects.
Plus you have to consider the dev ratio from here and the Vibrant Forums. There's only like 3 devs on the SGS4G and only one working on CM7. So it wouldn't be fair to compare it to the Vibrant.

Air its really hard cause its just krylon deving it. 1 person! Other phones have like more than a couple. So one person had to make a whole new kernel new mods modems and tweaks. Just really hard. Plus you need to make sure its encoded for cwm flashablw
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I know you make some good posts here, but you seriously sound like someone that thinks they're entitled to these things.
There's some things to consider about getting CM7. One thing is that krylon360 is building this from scratch. All the developers on this forum have mentioned that the SGS4G is very much different from the Vibrant. Another is the popularity of this device. The I9000 and Vibrant have CM7, because they're older and more people have them. Not much people wanted to make the jump to the SGS4G. Although the SGSII is newer, it had so much more popularity than the SGS4G because of its power.
So, all in all, not as easy as you think.

OK, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
A. Somebody rudely accused me and stated that why I didn't make it myself if it is so easy. Answer, because i don't have time as I am a Freshman in High School
B. I didn't even know that krylon was working on one, and I would happily help him when I have free time.
You have to understand that everyone is feeling anxious to use CM7. It has been a while since GB was launched and our phone has been here since Feb.

airfluip1 said:
OK, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
A. Somebody rudely accused me and stated that why I didn't make it myself if it is so easy. Answer, because i don't have time as I am a Freshman in High School
B. I didn't even know that krylon was working on one, and I would happily help him when I have free time.
You have to understand that everyone is feeling anxious to use CM7. It has been a while since GB was launched and our phone has been here since Feb.
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Yes everyone wants it but not everyone keeps asking where it is and when will it be done. Keep in mind that the sgs4g has about 3 dedicated devs. Dsexton who has his own line of roms Raver who has his own line of roms and I think does not even own the phone and krylon who works in a lot if different projects is building cm7 from scratch and just got the phone. It will come just have patience.
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nope i pay my mom from time to time to test and give u all pics but i dont own the device.. i actually own 0 devices atm lol some days i do get to use the phone if they need to get in cotact with me so .....

come on, guy.. You already knew it was being worked on. You posted almost the exact same question less than 2 weeks ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206406&highlight=CM7
There is no need to make an entirely new thread asking the same question, especially when there are threads about the actual development of CM7 that you could easily be following. You should probably subscribe the the 2-3 CM7 threads on this forum, to keep yourself up to date.

airfluip1 said:
Please, we need to start CM7. It is not hard at all for this phone, even the vibrant and captivate, which came on eclair have it. And the Galaxy s 2 even has it now. Also the year old Galaxy S 19000 has it. We need to do so.
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Your sig says CM7 is one of your projects and now you're saying "we need to start." So what does your signature about CM7 actually mean?

It means gtfo and leave me alone i wanna do a high quality rom but you little bastards keep anoying me. (DOT)
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Means, that I got CM7 frameworks and apps to boot up, but it was useless. LOL, so I gave up and I forgot to take it off of my signature.
What happened to the rules, that no one will verbally abuse people.
You guys need to think before you post. Just because you are a dev, doesn't mean you can yell at others. I am also DEVing for the phone, and you guys don't respect anyone here.

airfluip1 said:
You guys need to think before you post. Just because you are a dev, doesn't mean you can yell at others. I am also DEVing for the phone, and you guys don't respect anyone here.
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You should have used the search feature. To search for a thread you created for CM7. Not a person was being verbally abusive, they were simply stating that there are several threads created on the subject, and one of which was created by you. Put simply, dev or not, if a thread is created on a subject that already exists multiple times, I will point it out. That doesn't mean I don't respect the work you devs do for us.

jdubb1106 said:
If it is so easy to do then why havent i seen your cm7 rom posted here yet?
and next time dont post **** like this there are like 10 of these damn threads on here.
the devs here are hard at work giving people great roms....so all these *****ing and moaning threads need to stop....if it was so f***n easy people then everyone on here would be posting roms
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This is pretty abusive considering that it is very easy to tell who it was directed to.

Point taken, and I do apologize! It is wrong to assume that none of us respect anyone, when there are clearly a majority of us DO respect and appreciate the time and effort you guys put into the phone.
IMO, this thread should just be closed to prevent further flaming.

*Walks into thread and starts knocking stuff over and breaking everything in sight while rambling something about using the search feature and other threads like this exist*

[READ] This is the SGH-T959V(SGS4G) Not The Vibrant, or the Galaxy S 4

Hello Android Developers | ROM Flashers | Hackers | Modifiers | "I want my phone to look cool" People
First of all, I'd like to point out a few interesting things about this device.
-This is an Android powered phone that is officially supported to Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread
-The is the Galaxy S 4G. It is part of the Original Galaxy S (1st Generation) series and was once offered by ]"THREE" carriers. Mainly T-Mobile, secondly Wind Mobile, and most infrequently, Telus. The unique think about this phone is it was the first 4G Galaxy S Phone on T-Mobile.
-The model numbers are SGH-T959V(For T-Mobile), SGH-T959W(For Wind Mobile), and SGH-T959P(For Telus).
-A vast majority of support on this forum goes to the SGH-T959V for T-Mobile as it is the most common. There are a few T959W users on this forum who also have a few important threads, as well as if you are a T959W user, it is smart to note that yes, you can generally flash T959V roms, yet, you should "NOT" flash T959V Bootloaders and other such partitions such as the Boot, SBL, and Param sections as this MAY result in a permanent brick.
-There are no current T959P specific posts, and it is unknown whether there are any Telus users here. It is currently unknown but probably consistent that these users may be able to flash T959V roms.
OST OR ASK QUESTION
NOW THE MAIN POINT
First, If you haven't read the above section. GO BACK AND READ IT
MAIN MESSAGE
To all noobs, the T-Mobile (WInd or Telus) Galaxy S 4G is NOT internally similar to its predecessor, the T-Mobile Galaxy S Vibrant which lacks 4G and Gingerbread support. If you flash a Galaxy S Vibrant ROM, your phone may (and probably will) die, and will likely be void from warranty if you still have it! You should only flash ROMS available in THiS forum. All other Galaxy S variants including Galaxy S I9000, and other Galaxy S SGH model ROMS, Galaxy Y ROMS, Galaxy S II ROMS, Galaxy S III ROMS, Galaxy Note I ROMS, Galaxy Note II Roms, Galaxy Note 10.1 ROMS, Galaxy Tab ROMS, Galaxy Player ROMS, and any other Android Phone ROM will also kill the phone.
The label, Galaxy S doesn't mean Galaxy S "4G". There is a "HUGE" difference.
THERE ARE NOW AN INCOMING FLOOD OF GALAXY S "4" USERS.... THIS IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT DEVICE... PLEASE POST IN THE FORUM THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE MODEL NUMBER BEHIND YOUR BATTERY
THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS WARNING IS TO STOP GALAXY S 4G AND GALAXY S VIBRANT USERS FROM FLASHING ROMS THAT ARE NOT FROM THEIR EXACT PHONE'S FORUM AS WELL AS TO STOP AN INCOMING FLOOD OF GALAXY S 4 USERS TO POST QUESTIONS IN HERE

Bump for sticky.

Bump bump BUMP!!!
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bhundven said:
Bump for sticky.
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Seriously, sticky this beast. Its almost every day I see a thread with some poor sap who didn't do ANY research, has a bricked phone because he was trying to flash a vibrant ROM XD

While part of me says that if they can't bother to do the research before messing with a very expencive device then they deserve to be bricked with a voided warranty but then the other part says that this is good info so it is now stuck.

i do have to agree that this is good info, but isn't this referring to #3 in the 10 commandments thread? just wondering.

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i do have to agree that this is good info, but isn't this referring to #3 in the 10 commandments thread? just wondering.
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Good point. From some of the threads I've been reading, it doesn't sound like some people even pay attention to the stickies as it is.
Maybe the better question: Does having yet another sticky stop people from posting stupid stuff? Probably not.
I'm proud to be a part of this forum and community, and I'm tired of having to filter through a bunch of crap to find the needle(useful post) in the haystack(thread).
I hope that we, as a community, can band together to report abusive users (by clicking the alert triangle in the title bar of the abusive user's comment) and to help nurture the newbies to feel safe to ask questions so they don't follow bad advise and bootloop or worse... brick.
I hope that this being sticky catches someone's eye so they don't flash the wrong roms, if they are on other phones.

For the record I came to this site after flashing a vibrant rom through(gasp) ROM Manager. You know the story. Only option close to this phone was VIBRANT(this was back in feb and still the same). Some better googling led me here. Fixed my problem without so much as a post. Other people think and act different than I do. They will ask for help. They will be noobs. It's your choice whether or not to help. If you choose not to help than let that be it.
Oh bye the way NO ONE reads stickies

hechoen said:
For the record I came to this site after flashing a vibrant rom through(gasp) ROM Manager. You know the story. Only option close to this phone was VIBRANT(this was back in feb and still the same). Some better googling led me here. Fixed my problem without so much as a post. Other people think and act different than I do. They will ask for help. They will be noobs. It's your choice whether or not to help. If you choose not to help than let that be it.
Oh bye the way NO ONE reads stickies
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Well then they deserve what they get.
Rewritting the OS on your phone without doing the needed research is just plain stupid

zelendel said:
Well then they deserve what they get.
Rewritting the OS on your phone without doing the needed research is just plain stupid
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I thanked, because it seems to be the biggest problem with this site.
No one reads the stickies.
Should the site maybe implement a lightbox of some sort that pops up to remind users of the rules and reading the stickies and ops?
EDIT: It would be annoying, but if it worked, it would become less annoying to *not* have to scroll through 100-200 page threads of newbs fighting over stupid crap posted in the sticky and op...

bhundven said:
I thanked, because it seems to be the biggest problem with this site.
No one reads the stickies.
Should the site maybe implement a lightbox of some sort that pops up to remind users of the rules and reading the stickies and ops?
EDIT: It would be annoying, but if it worked, it would become less annoying to *not* have to scroll through 100-200 page threads of newbs fighting over stupid crap posted in the sticky and op...
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We have tried to make things as easy as we can but in the end this is a development site so when joining is is expected that people research and learn. I just wish people would stop following videos that are mostly out dated. It is amazing how lazy some people are. To be honest I am all out of pity and sympathy for those that don't do their homework. Its not rocket science after all lol

zelendel said:
We have tried to make things as easy as we can but in the end this is a development site so when joining is is expected that people research and learn. I just wish people would stop following videos that are mostly out dated. It is amazing how lazy some people are. To be honest I am all out of pity and sympathy for those that don't do their homework. Its not rocket science after all lol
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It's not rocket surgery or brain science. The simple fact is people want an easy way to do things. That's why they(myself inluded) are here. My homework is my own. So is my frustration. I ask not for sympathy but for pentance. I am so fuc?ing tired of off the cuff remarks from users of this site that claim to "know it all" but slam some poor ****er asking for help. How do you build a comminity on top of that? Search for sure. Notice the hottest topic right now is this one?
Zeledel
Do not expect people to be you. I sure as hell don't

I don't but I do expect them to do what I did when started, the same thing that everyone is expected to do. And that is to spend a good amount of time reading. When I started I knew nothing of modding and only had basic computer skills. So I joined and spent weeks reading up on what I was doing before I even attempted to software unlock my device. If you asked a question here without doing your research you were flamed left and right as it was and still is expected that people do the research before posting. Mainly sense modding your phone breaks your warranty and if you bricked it there was no way back and no returning to stock to return it.
As for the off the cuff remarks, I am sorry it has come to this. You can ask any one of my team mates. I am the first to spend hours upon hours helping people. Hell I have even spent 4 hours on an international call to help a user that has bricked his phone. In the end it comes down to if you do the research and then after all the work it is still acting up then people are more opted to help.

zelendel said:
I don't but I do expect them to do what I did when started, the same thing that everyone is expected to do. And that is to spend a good amount of time reading. When I started I knew nothing of modding and only had basic computer skills. So I joined and spent weeks reading up on what I was doing before I even attempted to software unlock my device. If you asked a question here without doing your research you were flamed left and right as it was and still is expected that people do the research before posting. Mainly sense modding your phone breaks your warranty and if you bricked it there was no way back and no returning to stock to return it.
As for the off the cuff remarks, I am sorry it has come to this. You can ask any one of my team mates. I am the first to spend hours upon hours helping people. Hell I have even spent 4 hours on an international call to help a user that has bricked his phone. In the end it comes down to if you do the research and then after all the work it is still acting up then people are more opted to help.
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One thing to remember alot of people are not you. We agree are many things. People are still not you. Because A = B if I am A or B than we are the same. C is always an option. Be the better person don't expect or think humane kind will hold themselves in that same regard. Be who you are but remember C is also an option.

hechoen said:
One thing to remember alot of people are not you. We agree are many things. People are still not you. Because A = B if I am A or B than we are the same. C is always an option. Be the better person don't expect or think humane kind will hold themselves in that same regard. Be who you are but remember C is also an option.
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Agreed.
For anyone that has been keeping up. Please don't think that I am trying to say that I am like some tech guru. Lol far from it. I only meant to show what can happen when you put some love, effort, common since, strong searchfu toss in some grey hairs into your device. Never know the guy that joins XDA tomorrow may become the next CM.
If you believe you can or if you believe you can't either way you are right.

pft.
Sometimes when your having a bad day, keeping your fingers off the keyboard makes things better.
I had to re-read hechoen 3 times until I got it.

agreed. Also, people should not flash to their phone until they really know what they are doing. When I first rooted my G1, I read for 2 months before trying. Also, I ended up frying my rom and being stuck i bootloader for a day, but I never posted a single thread anywhere(I wasn't a member). So before people say "HELP, am I bricked?" they should try "EVERYTHING" to solve their own problems. The senior members aren't the phone company warranty plans.

google does a good job of leading other galaxy variants to different forum. When i first googled this phone google led me to the i9000 forum, and from reviews and comparisons on other sites they say this phone is very similar to the vibrant so its easy to get confused.Its bad enough samsung has like 10 phones with the galaxy name on it too. I think this thread should be stickied on general and Q and A also, its very easy to be misled here.

Sticky vs. Wiki
airfluip1 said:
To all noobs, the galaxy s 4g isn't the vibrant, if you flash a vibrant rom, your phone may die. You should only flash roms available in this forum. Galaxy S I9000 roms and GS2 roms will also kill the phone. The label, Galaxy S doesn't mean Galaxy S "4G". There is a "HUGE" difference.
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So, why is the xda-dev wiki leading noobs to believe otherwise?
Clicking on that link (which is supposedly a list of all the Galaxy S models), we see the Galaxy S 4G nestled in amongst all the generic Galaxy S models. Shouldn't there be a separate section here for the 4G just as there is for a Galaxy S II and a Galaxy Tablet?
It's one thing to make this post a Sticky (which may or may not be found via searching), and quite another to deliberately classify the Galaxy S 4G as a Galaxy S on the Wiki (which is much more prominent than a Sticky)!
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I had specifically asked a moderator to create a new group for the Galaxy S 4G over 6 months ago...

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So, why is the xda-dev wiki leading noobs to believe otherwise?
Clicking on that link (which is supposedly a list of all the Galaxy S models), we see the Galaxy S 4G nestled in amongst all the generic Galaxy S models. Shouldn't there be a separate section here for the 4G just as there is for a Galaxy S II and a Galaxy Tablet?
It's one thing to make this post a Sticky (which may or may not be found via searching), and quite another to deliberately classify the Galaxy S 4G as a Galaxy S on the Wiki (which is much more prominent than a Sticky)!
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I had specifically asked a moderator to create a new group for the Galaxy S 4G over 6 months ago...
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I actually beg to differ. The galaxy s 4g is a 'galaxy s' phone based on the s5pc1xx (specifically the s5pc110 in PoP with the onenand-flex and dram, just like the epic4g and fascinate) processor (hummingbird chipset). The sgs2 is based on the exynos chipset.
The tablet IS in a class of it's own.
I don't understand your post.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium

>>>>READ THIS BEFORE FLASHING OR ROOTING<<<<

There are threads popping up everywhere of users who have bricked there devices..here in the past few days. It has gotten ridiculous. anyone who has been in multiple forums on xda can tell you the same thing i am...I have never seen so many bricks on a device.
Is it the device a problem maybe with the skyrocket???? NO
99.9999 percent of the time bricks are caused by user error. Like it or not its true.
On the very rare occasion .. it is an actual rom/kernel problem......its rare because roms are rigorously tested by the developer before posting to the masses...
So Please if your just getting into roting and flashing or not familiar with Samsung phones.......
read the roms thread. see if people are having issues or if u can find posts by others who are running the rom/kernel combo. that your are about to flash.
understand fully without doubts the process. of rooting...custom recoveries. and any kind of flashing. weather it be kernel/rom/modem/themes/mods.......
BECOME FAMILIAR WITH ODIN HAVE IT AVAILABLE AND KNOW HOW USE IT...
HAVE THE STOCK TAR AND STOCK RECOVERY TAR HANDY
under stand what a nandroid backup is and how to backup, and restore them.
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER FLASH A ROM NOT IN THE SKYROCKET DEVELOPMENT SECTION ON YOUR SKYROCKET.
( unless u know the deal with the t989 ) and understand that process fully
READ READ READ READ....THERE ARE guides on everything you could ever want to do to a skyrocket...in the general section......read them ..spare yourself the trouble of destroying a very nice expensive phone.........
people asking am i bricked would know if they were if they had read any of the imperative,readily available information.
to sum up read always read everything u can. before tampering with your phone....
you will very rarely see a seasoned member posting am i bricked or help what did i do threads..............This is because they read, and obtained the proper knowledge. before proceeding.....
now heres the goodies that need to be read......ATLEAST the most important ones, that will solve most issues...
[THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO HELP EVERYONE OUT....BECAUSE WE ALL HATE TO SEE PEOPLE BRICK THERE DEVICES.......
but if u choose to ignore the above information,,,,,then that is on u and u will brick u may get away with a few flashes and softbricks.....but its just a matter of time
HERES THE GOODIES>>>>ATLEAST THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES
[REF] All in One guide for NOOBS!http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4312138 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^READ THIS FIRST^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[HOWTO][TAR] THE ODIN THREAD :: Return to stock, fix soft brick :: 11/13: Rogers TAR! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348 Originally Posted By: k0nane
after you have read the all in one guide and the tar/odin thread and have them downloaded, and understood
then proceed here The "all-in-one-location" XDA Skyrocket General Info/Root Method/Kernel/ROM Thread!
Originally Posted By: InSaiyanone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
if u have read all of the above you should now have a pretty decent understanding. of the skyrocket, and rooting , and roms,kernels,modems......
NOW ITS TIME TO PARTY GO HERE THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THE ABOVE INFORMATION......YOU CAN FEEL CONFIDENT YOUR SAFE FROM BRICKING......aside from the rare unusual freak situation, where u did everything correct. and your phone killed itself

Good post.
Also, people who have bricked and make a new thread. We want to help you, but please for the love of god give as much information as possible. The incidents of these 'ghost bricks' where people have said they have done everything correctly is rising, yet the accompanying details are lacking. It is scary thought that our phone can brick itself on a normal flash .001% of the time, but we don't even know if this is true because of a lack of information.

I think this is a nice post in light of the present circumstances that different users (n00bs, if you will) are facing. I have been a big fan of reading multiple times before trying on something and probably that is one thing that have saved me from getting my phone useless. And with such informative guides by developers like Silver we should always read everything for sure...
Thanks a ton Silver for all that you do and I will be trying your Silver ROM as soon as I am done posting this

Thanks for posting this Silver. I don't mind helping people who've run into trouble--I actually like it since I've run into the same problems myself (including a hard brick--my own user error, admittedly...).
If any of the people starting new threads took a minute to search, they would find that their question has been answered a hundred times. But I'll generally cut them some slack and just try to help since when you think you've bricked your phone you tend to be in a total state of panic and don't think to search first.

Thanks for the post. Coming from a Captivate over to a Skyrocket wasn't too bad of a transition, but my Captivate would have been bricked most definitely unless I read 2 or 3 DIFFERENT guides and watched a couple vids on YouTube. Please read and reread and then read some more

i just got into US 4 2 weeks,
and had my skyrocket at the 2nd day in US,
i just rooted it few days ago,
it's easy for me to root it ,
just follow the rules,
don't make any mistakes.
and you can enjoy different kinds of roms

Ordered a new (refurb) skyrocket and am going to root
Hi all.
Very green noob here.
I just ordered my skyrocket from AT&T. They have refurbished going for $19.99 for those looking. I'm coming off from a Samsung Impression. "It's ancient, it's ugly..." for those loving Nightmare before Christmas.....
Anyhow, when I get it I am going to play with it for a day or so and then root it(or attempt to), and put the Cyanogen mod and clockwork mod. Hope I know what I'm talking about.
I've been reading everything for weeks now and am going to re-read again all of the links mentioned by Silver03wrx at the top. Thanks in advance.
Two questions, though.
I want Ice Cream Sandwich on it.
1. Any recommendations which to do first, ie upgrade to ICS and then Root?
and
2. I am going to back up the stock set up first. If I screw up and brick it, can it be restored? I have read that a soft brick can, but I do not recall ever seeing mention of restoring from hard bricking. Maybe I missed it.
Any proactive help is much appreciated.
Thanks

I would do the ICS install and then root
As for bringing... We've lost a lot of good men out there to hard bricks, which is one of the reasons you got a Skyrocket for 20 bucks lol
Soft bricking happens all the time, not too hard to recover from. Hard bricks are very difficult. There's a dude out there who repairs a hard brick $50 or in that range
Just follow instructions and you'll be fine
Non-bricked Skyrocket since 2-11-2012

Thanks for the guidance Shootoo.

Thanks
Thanks for the tip! Big help!

Def READ UP ON ODIN
I made the mistake of thinking Odin was like superoneclick, it either works or doesn't, IT IS NOT. You can seriously mess up your device if your not careful. I would know, Cause I bricked the Epic 4G Touch, Luckily by the time I got to the skyrocket, I had personal Experience. LOL

Thanks for the info.

Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. I'm experimenting with rooting my girlfriend's Skyrocket and if I can avoid bricking her phone, well that would be great

Thanks for the great post
Hi, I've been hanging around XDA for a few years now, and this is one of the most complete posts for rooting a device I have seen. I have a Galaxy S Fascinate with VzW, and had a big learning curve on it.
I recently finished rooting/modding it to run CM9 ICS 4.0.4 and am looking to take advantage of the dual core processor for better performance than my 1st Gen Fascinate.
Thanks for all the great work!
TB

Very important to read and read and read again...
I've bricked my phone but I knew that this could happen before attempting it and had read enough prior to trying out a rom. I had a backup plan just in case from all the great posts here.
When my SR bricked, I didn't panick... much. . I just spent another few minutes with the leaked ICS and everything was working again.

Bricked... No wait...
I thought I bricked my phone. Started checking everything and after discovering the one of my USB ports won't support my phone correctly, I was able to restore my phone with ODIN.
One thing I did notice once I recovered is that when using that port, ADB would error and time out. I though it was a driver, then cable issue, but it was the port.
In the future to test my phone and make sure it is fully accessible, I'm going to run ADB and drop into shell mode to make sure my cable and port are working.

OP: Can you please add following instruction in bold red
Check your device before flashing. FLASH AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727 ROMS ONLY
I have read 2-3 threads with folks bricking their SGS2 skyrocket by flashing other roms.

cnewsgrp said:
OP: Can you please add following instruction in bold red
Check your device before flashing. FLASH AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727 ROMS ONLY
I have read 2-3 threads with folks bricking their SGS2 skyrocket by flashing other roms.
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He does in point 6.
6. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER FLASH A ROM NOT IN THE SKYROCKET DEVELOPMENT SECTION ON YOUR SKYROCKET.
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What the op should add is the fact that leaked ICS kernel's can hard brick a phone. A shame considering almost every rom released in the last few months is based on the leak. You can read more about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364

billownz said:
What the op should add is the fact that leaked ICS kernel's can hard brick a phone. A shame considering almost every rom released in the last few months is based on the leak. You can read more about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
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Actually most are safe because we use GB recoveries. I think only CM9 based ROM using non GB recoveries are at risk.
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Read up and Fear Not: The true bueaty of Android!
I am realatively new to Android, especially when it comes to development and customization, but I have much experience with hardward tinkering and hacking over the years. That said, since I got my SkyRocket I am HOOKED! I have managed to flash my S2S through six or so different ROMs, starting from GB stock to Cyanogen then to the ICS. Just 2 days ago my PC glitched while flashing through ODIN and my phone turned to stone. ODIN wouldn't see it, ClockworkMod was gone, all my data/backups...EVERYTHING. I thought it was over. However, with persistence, the forums and some gumption, I was able to bring it back from the brink! As long as you take your time and keep at it, everything you need to be a pro (or at least feel like one with your own devices) is here somewhere and no device should have to suffer the boring stock life again!!! Thanks to all the devs and moderators for keeping us dabbling, Great Post Silver!